jrbeatty

What a Puzzle!

Only theory I would suggest is that close proximity to the quad's high voltage spark plug discharge could be initiating the detector start sequence by inductance.

As Gerry suggests - pull the power plug.

1 hour ago, Jonathan Porter said:

Headphones are such a personal a choice, so long as what’s supplied is reasonably functional then I feel its better if ML concentrate on making the detector as robust as possible and the tech as powerful as possible and keep the cost down by letting me decide what headphones I prefer.

Fully agree with that Jonno! 

I prefer the Sennheiser "Kleer" cordless system on my detecting gear. Zero dropouts, distortion or interference, CD quality sound and sod all latency. Range is good for 25 meters, for those with extra long arms  :)

3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Since I was born on Christmas it was quite an event!

Steve: Lol! You and Reg Wilson. Hmmm! March baby here, I'm feeling left out!

Tea drinker here! None of that teabag rubbish either. I have a small teapot in the van plus an excellent range of quality leaf teas for the discerning connoisseur. Think of all the battery kilowatt hours I'm saving!!!

OK, I'll pull my head in now - outnumbered again 🙂

Dammit Rick! Got my gold fever pumping now!

Hot wet Kambalda ground and running fine. That ground makes the worst Victoria has to offer child's play.

My 20" Z CC is now ready for dispatch from Russia, can't wait!

Nice setup Norvic.

Here's my home from home (on the job in Victoria with Reg Wilson and his lambs) It's a LWB VW T5 AWD with pop top conversion.

Being an ex rural ambulance, it came with Bilstein suspension and all the optional bells and whistles, including alloys, diff lock, sat nav and traction control. It now has two demountable double beds, gas stove, hot water, shower, sink, dual voltage fridge, annexes, Mobile phone booster, Dual battery with Redarc regulator, Flexible solar panels glued to the pop top, with MPPT Bluesolar controller.

Powered by a 2.5L twin turbo diesel coupled to a 6 speed manual, it has a rated top speed of 180KMH, which it does fairly comfortably, even when loaded - not that I do that very often mind you,  but makes for safe overtaking!

With it's long wheelbase, it's definitely more of a "Soft-roader", but has got me up some surprisingly difficult fire trails on occasions. I remember once arriving on dusk atop a mountain plateau after a tricky climb, to looks of astonishment from all the serious off-roaders camped there!  :)

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Truth be told, Aussies practice a form of tribal manliness that is hard for me to catch the nuance of. It's like those barroom scenes where everyone has a fist fight, then dusts themselves off for a round of beer and camaraderie.

One of the fiercest battles the US and Australian allies fought in the Pacific theatre during WW2 wasn't against the Japanese, but each other!

The "Battle of Brisbane" Is a good illustration of what Steve describes above. Fought over several days, It resulted in one mortality and many serious gunshot injuries. Brisbane had become General Macarthur's Pacific Headquarters at that stage of the war.

According to an eyewitness, US sergeant Bill Bentson: "The Americans had the chocolates, the ice-cream, the silk stockings and the dollars. They were able to show the girls a good time, and the Australians became very resentful about the fact that they'd lost control of their own city"

After a second fierce night of beatings, arrests and burnt buildings,  Bentson later recounted: 

"But after that, it sort of settled down and you go into a pub and an Aussie would come and up and slap me on the back. "Oh, wasn't that a good ruckus we had the other night? And have a beer on me."

For a warts and all account: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brisbane The article helps explain the complex relationship Yanks and Aussies still share. 

2 hours ago, brogansown said:

I managed the construction of buildings for Morrison Knudsen all over the U. S., Alaska and a couple of foreign countries and we never had a problem finding water.

Interesting. Morrison Knudsen were contractors (in consortium with others) on Australia's Snowy Hydro scheme in the early days. 

No shortage of water up there, divining definitely wasn't required lol!

Divining is an article of faith for some, no amount of controlled tests or statistical evidence against it will ever change their opinion. That's why shonky LRL's will continue to find a market into the future.

Yep. One of those eternal debates that lead nowhere constructive. 

 Anecdotal stories and the total lack of disclosure of the many failures add to the allure of divining. Random chance success must also be taken into account.

Another aspect regarding claimed divining success is the fact that many experienced diviners are also very commonsensical observers of landscape. They wave sticks, wires, etc, in areas more likely than not to contain what they seek.

The prize money still awaits - - - 

Edit: you beat me to it Jasong - - :)

Right on the money Steve. I'm a former member of the Australian Skeptics and nobody ever has managed to collect the considerable prize money our patron Dick Smith offered. I believe the late magician and skeptic James Randi had a similar unclaimed offer in the US

Interesting how claimed paranormal powers (Like divining) become little more than random chance events under controlled conditions.

Don't cut the Minelab charger cord Eric. Since your car ciggie socket is stuffed, your best bet would be to connect a separate cigarette plug socket to your 12v solar charged car/freestanding battery via alligator clips. These are usually available at most auto accessory shops

Your Minelab car charger will then simply plug into this - make sure the polarity is right though!

Edit: Another way is to replace your stuffed ciggie socket with a flash new one - maybe complete with USB's

32 minutes ago, geof_junk said:

Kevin found that 1980. The million dollar nugget. I think most prospector dream of. I was sitting around the camp fire with a few full timer in Leonora 25 years later. Kevin turn-up and joined us. He got his $1,000,000 house on millionaire hill in Perth but here he was roughing it  out in the desert with his wife just to go detecting for enjoyment. At this stage he was using a ML detector. 

Geof: 

The late Kevin Hillier may have somehow successfully transcended that find, but I have always considered myself fortunate to have never found anything remotely resembling the size of the "Hand of Faith" 

That would probably ruin detecting forever for me. How the hell do you top that?

Ok! All right then! - I'll risk being ruined - - - :)

36 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

I forget the Aussie dealer at the time, but he made the Infinium out like it was going to put Minelab out of business. I actually helped a bit with the Infinium, as I was looking for anything that might compete with Minelab in some way. I found good gold with mine but it was no powerhouse for sure, and like the ATX turned into a beach detector. I was trying to counter that over the top portrayal at the time as I thought it was unfair to the Infinium to make such outrageous claims, which of course just generated a ton of blowback due to experiences like yours JR.

Steve: I've deliberately forgotten his name as well. Over hyping always comes back to bite you in the end.

Same problem with early QED spruikers. Great lightweight, cheap PI prospecting machine, but not a world beater.

Taught me not to jump in on every new release. Pays to wait for field reports from experienced users, not salesmen.

The earlier Garretts seriously cleaned up in Aus. Certainly not knocking them all.

One of the Garrett Deepseekers better finds- with its discoverer:

Only Garrett I ever owned was the "Infinium"

Well named, as I found an infinite amount (nothing) with it  :) 

Head on comparisons with the late Jim Stewart's SD 2100 on undug gold pieces in situ convinced me to trade it immediately.

Jim's sympathetic comment at the time "Well, it's doing something different - " summed it up. Whatever it was doing, it certainly wasn't hearing gold under Aussie conditions!

4 hours ago, jasong said:

I don't know much about it either. Which to me demonstrates one of their weak points as a company in terms of being able to take on a major detecting company.

Outside of forums, in the US, I doubt many have even heard of it. In the Middle East/Africa where the market for such a machine seems to be ripe, I wonder how many know a lot about it?

Point being, seems to me they have more hurdles than just keeping up with ML tech. But again, I know nothing about them except that I know nothing, which itself seems to be a problem they need to solve in a general sense among potential customers.

The QED has a niche market. Since it has been designed, manufactured and until recently distributed by one man (Howard Rocky) It's clearly not in direct competition with any other company. 

It draws on no Minelab patents, but utilises patents (expired and under license) from some of the PI detector pioneers. This makes it more of a parallel development.

"A single channel Pulse Induction metal detector using a differential integrator as the null summation / averaging means to null the ground and static magnetic fields. The Ground Balance method is based on the published papers or lapsed patents of the early pioneers Eric Foster, Poole, Chapman and Howells and more recently the lapsed patent of Dr. George Paltoglou and Australian Innovation Patent AU2010101019. The front-end blocking circuitry is US Patent No.: 10,181,720 B1, dated 15 Jan 2019 by Dave Emery and is used under license. Click here to read the Dave Emery Patent. Average current consumption 400mA, voltage limits 6v min to 10v max. Audio PWM VCO & VCA. Digitization method Bipolar Integrating (200uS) ADC Display, 3 digit LED Backlit Transflective LCD EMI Compliance # E5498"

41 minutes ago, kiwijw said:

Yes the GP's & GPX's as we knew them & their huge versatility with the wide range of coils & multiple setting choices are a platform I doubt we will ever see again.

JW 🤠 

 - until our Russkie mates deliver the goods once more - 😉

Following this one with considerable interest!

Still finding gold in Australia, Rasheed. 

Not as common as it once was, but it's a big place. 

Still much new ground to explore - - 

Also uncertain about chip protection. Probably built into the coils to make it more difficult for the after market. Won't make the same mistake twice.

Hopefully the X Coil team will come up with a workaround solution  🙂

Hmmm!

That Arabic video shows clearly the incompatible screw on end connector compared to existing GPX coils. Completely different pin layout. Typical Minelab - - -

On 12/29/2020 at 12:35 AM, madtuna said:

Because I'm a nice bloke and deserve it 😀

 

Down about 2 feet and not getting anymore signals so not sure if I'll pursue it any further. Was hoping it would balloon out down lower.

 

Will update when it's all crushed and I know what I have, was hoping it would be substantial but probably only a couple of ounces.

MT: Used the "Other Media" tab bottom right of preview page 👍

I'd chase it a bit deeper, but only with the station dozer!

Madtuna: Those image url's seem to open just fine over on Finders. 

Started just the topic for them too, acting on your advice!

Not sure why they won't here?

Aussie gold rarely as pretty as US stuff. Love those wire gold specimens!

25 odd ozs of Victorian colours. Merry Christmas to all!

57 minutes ago, phrunt said:

Another perk living where I do, Santa comes here first, then makes his way across to Australia

Santa is facing 14 days quarantine here before he will be allowed down the first chimney :)

Nice colours Geof.  Merry Xmas all!

3 hours ago, egixe4 said:

- And Like Geof said above

“A lot of historical sites have been ruin by illegal machinery operations ( and some legal ones too), that make the chicken scratching's made by all the manual detector operators as hardly detectible”

 

Certainly puts detector holes into perspective - but we still need to refill them in order not to give our self appointed and perpetually offended moral guardians ammunition to expel us down the track - 

I'm also guilty of conducting legal "Doze and detect" operations years ago, but not over historically significant sites:

20 odd ozs from my MRC claim. Billy Goat Gully, Kingower (early 90's)

It's sad to see the historical moonscape of the Old Lead, Dunolly slowly disappear. This is possibly the best preserved and most extensive historical diggings left in Victoria. I don't deny Neville Perry and associates have a legal right to excavate it and wish them every success - but what's gone is gone forever.

Old Lead 2006:

And today:

I've wandered somewhat off your Matrix Reef topic Karelian, but the sometimes enormous nuggets that found their way down the Old lead were also formed during the emplacement of the Tarnagulla pluton to the north. This is a topic in itself.

2 hours ago, egixe4 said:

Remember what Inkerman looked like in the 1980's James?

German Gully and the old lead Dunolly look amazing on Google Earth.

 

 

egixe4:

I suppose there's little point in getting sentimental about old diggers holes, but I do. My late detecting buddy Jim Stewart used to describe them as "gazing upon the pock marked familiar face of a dear old friend"

A farmer friend asked me recently if I would be willing to detect Mosquito Gully, Waanyarra if he pushed it. This is one of my very favourite detecting places - found good gold there over the years in that paddock (including a lovely 4 oz specimen) I did my best to talk him out of it, heritage, etc. Not sure if it will survive much longer though -