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  1. Personally, I think Vanquish will use an optimized Beach1-like program ... as a basis ... And that's why it works very well on the beach ... and without any special program just for the beach. But of course it is only an assumption .. If I have Vanquish 340 in my hands ..... I measure its TX on an oscilloscope ... and via FFT and take a picture of the frequency of the program ...

    Advantage and Point Vanquish 340 is in the fact that in "One  Program" setting it handles different types of field conditions Detection..and has a good ID in depth .. -The main advantage of multifrequency ..
    And while it looks ... he's doing pretty well ..
     
    Equinox 800  Beach1 program- FFT -TX frequency 

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    Equinox 800 Park1 program   TX frequency- FFT

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    Equinox 800 Park2  program TX frequency - FFT

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  2. Do not search the Wanquish 340-" entry detector Level" all available and adjustable features ... that have Top Detectors available ..

    Fixed Iron Bias doesn't mean you can't detect in the iron ... but on the contrary eliminates a lot of iron waste --bottle caps,nails..... so you can detect "Good signals"  Ferous and Nonferous  -faster if it is sometimes at the cost of deteriorated separation ....but not ... in every  case ...

    In the program ... "Allmetal" can search all kinds of objects ..

    Many good detectors on fixed Iron bias and allow effective detection...

    Iron bias - is not just a filter of iron ... it is a filter of very short signals - from objects, mineralization, Emi ..

  3. Mojave with concentric coil practically does not work well in heavily mineralized soil.
    but with 6X8"SEF DD coil works very well with reasonable range ,,, even on Low setting  GB....

    But of course it does not detract from the quality of detection Minelab Vanquish 340 ,,, and I consider the auto "noise cancel" another big plus ..
            Thank you for the information... 

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  4. Thank you for your direct answers ....


    Steve Herschbach ...
      I also thought I could resist buying Vanquish 340 but for the price / 238 euros / with free shipping I just clicked on it ..

    It is unbelievably to what price level the multifrequency got .. with advantages which offer ..

    Jeff McClendon ...
    Yes Vanquish also reminds me of Tesoro Mojave Multifrequency with numeric ID Displays. Simple, ... easy, yet efficiently in a variety of terrain .

    ...practically the detection range of 0.2 grams of gold per 3 "in the ground is considered to be excellent sensitivity

    Coils..now I know the coils are not interchangeable with equinox ,,, but from the Minelab marketing point of view.... I understand ...

    67GTA ....
    Thank you for the answer ... I had the impression that some small silver coin was ID a little higher, but on other items enough to agree with Equinox ..

    The..detector Vanquish 340  seems to me sometime in the middle of January ... so I also compare with Equinox and write something about it ..
     


     
     

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  5. Of course, I don't expect performance like Equinox ... but the multifrequency and sensitivity and impact on small targets, and the accuracy of the ID at Vanquish, I think, will be good enough for the price.
    I also like the 7x10" coil size .. because there's something between the 6 "coil ... and the 11" coil at Equinox .. so the Vanquish 340 will be a great addition to my Equinox 800 ..

    I ordered it...

    Still some ... from some tests on YT .. I have the impression that Vanquish gives a low conductive coin a higher ID than Equinox ..

    Can anyone confirm it? .....
     

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  6. 8-9 "coil on Equinox would be great .., well I don't understand why minelab has not yet made it ... when the competition has me.
      According to me the advantages of 8-9 coils:
      1.Excellent 2D and 3D separation while maintaining excellent depth ..8-9 "for round coil ... is the size of coil where it begins to separate perfectly in the iron ...

    2. Sensitivity to small objects., And possibly improved ground mineralization work.

    3.Light weight = Better balance and excellent handling of Equinox in difficult-to-move conditions.

    4. On this size of coil we can count increased resistance to Emi ..

     :wink:...EQUINOX deserves another good coil ..

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  7. Mike....., I also bought the same BE Q700 a few years ago ... working on a 9V battery ,,even at maximum detector audio settings.... but giving an extremely low level of sound ..., I ended up experimenting again .. I wanted to limit the volume of the iron sound.

    I think this equalizer needs a "Line output" .... from the detector, but the detectors have only "Headphone output" .

    ...when connected to my laptop, the Beq 700 is working a dot louder ..., and can adjust the volume of different frequencies...

    I consider the iron volume control to be a pretty important setting for some metal detectors ...

     

     

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  8. Abenson ,thank you for the test,..... you have done really extensive and rigorous Vanquish testing ..:
     
    1. The results of the Tests in separation suggest that Vanquish has a low iron bias setting ... still a relatively strong rejection of the iron.

    Stronger Iron Bias settings are responsible for less good separation .. it's strongly visible in nail and coin tests when in one line ...

    This setup can make an otherwise fast detector pretty slow .. even on a small 4x6"coil...

    2..Recovery speed recovery also like  to 3-4 recovery speed max .. maybe  5th according to the program.

    This is also suggested by the hard work and and less deeply  detection of Vanquish in tests on heavily mineralized terrain ...

      3.Tests in heavily mineralized terrains could help set discrimination to 0 or better to 1.
    At least on Equinox, it works similarly to "Iron volume" ... + but can also correct incorrect iron "VDI",,,, to   better"non- ferous  VDI"!!!

     

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  9. In the 1-3..to4bar Fe3O4 mineralization, the 13 " DD coil will have an advantage over the 11"DD coil in terms of depth detection. Every inch is good .. because it means a good ID, of course. .

    At higher levels of mineralization, the results are balanced .. and at 6..7 bar Fe3O4 mineralization you will get better results on an 11 "coil or a slightly smaller coil./5x10"DD, 6x8"DD coils/..

    In very small coils ... a  like Nel Snake 3.5x 6.5 "DD..  this size coil   you prove to reduce the level of mineralization-several times..for detector electronics......But deep reach   the 3.5"x6.5"DD Nel Snake coil.. may not be as ideal deep..on coin size..... as in the case of coils size  5x10" or 6x8"DD ...I'll be deeper..

     

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  10. Some time ago I compared several detectors with small coils in a classic monte nailbord test..wherever the aim was a small and thin silver hammered 14mm -0.44gram coin ..- I will say a relatively demanding test..on separation .. One of the detectors tested was Equinox with a small 6 "coil on the new firmware 2.0.12 .... and this detector, when properly set up in Park 2, discrimination at 0, and iron bias F2 to 0 to set3 ..., recovery speed 7 .. achieved excellent results. .., 6.5point from 8-point max ..

    if you change the discrimination setting above 0, or change the iron bias FE above 3, you will lose a lot of the Equinox separation benefits ...
    the correct setup of Equinox is essential ..

    Another detector that achieved similarly good results was the Vista gold gains 5.7 "coil at a suitable setting  and iron audio settings ... 7 points from 8 points max ...but the 5.7 "coil ... is nearly 1cm closer than the 6" coil of Equinox..

     

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  11. nordic .. you get the G-B value in your terrain ...?, because GB = 1 for equinox is balancing for ferrite .., have you tried to apply discrimination on to 0,1,2 ...? in your tests ..?

     Equinox... the use of discrimination in difficult conditions is desirable ...,.... it is not necessary to rely on Allmetall ..   it reminds me of the iron volume setting which is in some detectors - but in this case also affects the ID...

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  12. 50 numbers of equinox IDs are sufficient .. for normal search .., here is more important accuracy and stability of ID in deep and more difficult terrain ..,
    Of course, I would have liked if Equinox had the ability to set more in some programs  for extended ID range on lower conductors, and more narrow ID range on high conductors.

     

    PS .. Equinox ..possible in next Update...:wink:

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  13. There is something like the optimum frequency and the optimum coil size of the detector ... the optimum frequency is, according to me, the multi-frequency ... because it has a wide range of sensitivity and reach to the various sizes of desired targets ...
     Separation properties of different frequencies I have already mentioned ..
    With a sufficiently strong TX multi-frequency wave, there is no problem to make a very deep detector ..,
    it can also use this possibility, that not all transmitted frequencies are equally strong.
     This will have an excellent reach and also an excellent ID on different types of terrain.

    The optimum coil ... should have excellent range and sensitivity to a wide range of desired targets ..

    If too large a coil is applied to the detector - so on a normal VLF IB detector the sensitivity to the smallest items drops sharply, and in most cases the resistance to Emi and the interference from the ground also decrease.
    Some sophisticated detectors, however, have the features of TX Bost where the transmission voltage is increased as well as ..
     which removes these deficiencies in large coils, balancing the sensitivity of the detector and the resistance to Emi at the level of normal coils.
    In this case, we can also expect some impact on reasonably large targets.

    Spectra V3  : 18" excelerator coil , multifrequenci , TX bost ON...

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  14. The detector's range is to some extent from the frequency ,,, but the frequency of 7-30khz can still have a deep reach on various types of target ... but in the com is relatively high frequency rearch ... it is mainly separation in the iron .. where the frequency is higher helps separating ..
     

     

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  15. What First Texas is missing is an 11 "round coil... add.. deep, yet it is a lightweight coil and is still sensitive enough for small items .. while this type the coil ...also strongly supports 3D deep separation .

    ...it is no coincidence that many detector manufacturers use such a coil as a standard coil..

    13" Ultimate coil.. Surprise...,it is deep coil..for coins..

     

    I'm afraid many Gold bug pro / G2 users will consider upgrading to the Bounty Hunter Time ranger-Pro .. if it has the right price ..

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  16. One thing is for sure...

    In this state-of-the-high technology, First Texas has the prerequisites to create new high-end metal detectors, even in large series, ....

    The work of the new PI detector on the Aqua and Terra IMPulse is an illustrative example.

    So I have no doubt that there will also be some new type * VLF Detector ..

    ˙¸ shifting your current high-end detectors to a lower price level suggests this.

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