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  1. it can really be a meteorite iron meteorite with a high nickel content .. I'm not an expert in this .. but the percentage of nickel .. quickly determine if this is a piece of extraterrestrial origin ..
  2. Jasong ... and Simon ... thank you for your positive response ..👍 I also bought a Garrett ATX from a colleague based on a review by Steve Herschbach... and other ATX users where, among other things, I was interested in the sensitivity of this PI detector in detecting gold nuggets weighing 0.1 grams ... on a relatively large standard 12x10 "DD coil. ..I saw ATX as a fairly versatile and waterproof PI detector with Ground balance on all types of terrain .. In my own testing I really achieved a good ATX range at a higher set sensitivity of 10 .. without GB on my test target 0.1 gram 24k gold ..., / range around11cm / ... but during the test I was really surprised that my next test 0.027 gram gold is seen at 2-2.5 cm- assuming you set the threshold to 11.5 -12 .. ...In the ATX test on the Ground Balance on heavily mineralized terrain ,, the range drops, but 0.027 grams of gold is still visible on the 12x10 "DD coil. Reach to 0.1 gram 24k gold.. will drop a bit .... but ATX on Ground balance and disk on 3rd .. can still detect 0.1 gram of gold ... under 2 inches thick and heavily demanding mineralized Iron Stone .... that's what no VLF detector can do .. ...I think the special design of this DD coil with an extended center .. allows you to maintain good sensitivity to very small targets .. ..but it had a 3x7 " power DD infinium coil has even better sensitivity / range for very small targets .. ...This is how I test ATX with Ground balance on difficult mineralized terrain and on 0.027 gram gold on a small 3x7 "DD infinium coil .... What intrigued me about this little 3X7 "Power DD Infinium coil and the use on the PI detector ATX ?.. ...It's this article...👍 ...https://mymetaldetector.blogspot.com/2011/07/this-is-3x7-in.html
  3. ...New video from Bill Southern, ... Return to detection with GPX 6000..👍
  4. George ... I think you have a lot of ... too many good detectors ... and coils ... but I'll be curious about your further observations about Deus II.👍
  5. The Bounty Hunter Time Ranger Pro is now probably the most suitable purchase from the same family of G2 + tek detectors, and also the Fisher F19, Here it must be said that it is still a powerful and quite versatile detector .. with a really accurate VDI ... a larger 13 "coil adds to its depth .. and brings it to the class of powerful detectors .. ...according to me ... the price - BHTR-Pro and the performance is still really good .. ..easy operation and setting of the detector is another plus...
  6. .... Since my last tests of the standard 12x10 "DD Garrett ATX coil ...and the small 3X7" Power DD Infinium coil ...showed a clear advantage of the small 3X7" Power DD coil for very fine gold .... at PI Garrett ATX ... even though I didn't reach success in detection on round shot N.9 I decided to find out what results I will achieve with a medium-sized 5x10 "Infinium power DD coil in direct comparison with a small sensitive coil 3x7" Infinium Power DD .. ... I can get better results with the 5x10 "DD power coil ,, than with the 3x7" DD Power coil on PI Garrett ATX? .. I am very curious about the final comparison ... I also included in the test a lead round shot number N 7.5 / the diameter is 2.4 millimeters /..to know how both coils I will react to a slightly larger shoot like shot N.9 .... which has a diameter of only 2 millimeters .. PI Garrett ATX.. was set in the test for both coils to stable sensitivity 12 ....and threshold 11.5 .. without Ground balance .. ...Test of 5x10 "Power DD coil confirmed one important thing ... with the winner in range and sensitivity to very small 0.027 gram gold is still small 3x7"Power DD .. infinium coil / range is 4.5cm !!! for 3x7"Power DD coil.. vs 2cm range for 5x10" Power DD coil /.. ..but at 0.1 gram gold and more gold begins you have a slight predominance of 5x10" DD infinium coil /11cm vs 10cm range small coil/ ,.. which already has a significant predominance even at 0.5 gram 24K gold .. where the range is a good 20cm !!! .. for 5x10" DD infinium coil ... vs. range 16.5 cm - at small 3x7" DD infinium coil ../ ..The sensitivity of the 5x10 "Infinium Power DD coil to gold targets of 0.1 grams and less is very similar to the 12x10" DD ATX standard coil. ... This is in full agreement from Steve Herschbach's review of this 5x10 "Infinum power DD coil on ATX .. which he wrote years ago ...👍 Test 5x10" Infinium Power DD coil at PI Garrett ATX....shot N 7.5 is on an unmarked ruler... ------------------------------------------------ ..Test small 3x7"Infinium PowerDD coil at PI Garrett ATX.. ....Now the most important ... about this topic .. tests of both coils showed that shot N.9 stands out from the detection capabilities of both coils .. but ... for me it's a plus ..👍 During the test on ... shot N 7.5 .. coil 5x10"DD Infinium .. proved the data signal completely at the coil ... and only in the area where the windings TX / RX ... / in the picture / cross. The small 3x7 " Infinium Power DD coil... at ATX sensitivity at 12 .. on the shot number 7.5 did not give a readable signal ... across the entire surface of the coil ... at ATX sensitivity 13 max....I already heard a very weak response at the coil .. ... This is probably another big plus of this small 3x7" Power DD "coil because the sensitivity of the 13 at ATX is a range of 0.027 grams of gold at a nice 4.5 cm .... !!! ...this test also pointed to another important thing ... and that a certain coil size can really help in the detection of a certain type of targets and the size we want to find in the detection and PI detector you use... ..I think the important criterion for a given coil will be here .. especially a good range of the coil on a certain size and weight of targets we want to detect .. ... but also how a given coil on the detector can handle the detection of these targets in mineralized or salty terrain .. This way you can also extract the maximum of its detection capabilities from your detector.. PS...exact weight of gold on the test ruler 0.02 gram 24k gold ..is 0.027 grams..and therefore I published this exact value in the test....
  7. I think there is definitely a "core" of detectors ... who have been waiting for years for the new Minelab, which will carry the qualities of ETRAC and CTX .... and which will be separation and depth capabilities and target identification and Ergonomics .. over Equinox 800 ... . ...but the performance of the detector will be the most important factor...👍 Another important factor here may be the price and availability of additional coils, and accessories .. - it may also decide to buy a new detector from Minelab .. ... I estimate the price of this detector at the level of 1500-1600 dollars ,,, quite similar to ETRAC and also a Deus II ... this is a price that can pay a sufficient number of advanced detectors, or even novices who are financially all right, ....finally detecting hobby is not the most expensive hobby in the world ...many of us can agree on that...
  8. Relic Ray,,,,everyone has their required coin ..... Finding the first one is the hardest ........but that moment ... finding it ... you will remember it positively for the rest of your life ,,, ... then it's usually easier to find I wish you another successful detection ..👍
  9. The test of the sensitivity of the detectors ... for the N.9 shot is definitely a challenging topic, for the PI detectors, but it can definitely take a different look at the various Vlf detectors for this purpose ... ... since I use to test the sensitivity and reach of very small gold targets ... several different tests .... I decided to supplement my testing with this test on shot N.9 Since this "test shot N.9" is really challenging ... in the first place I am interested in the extent to which this test will correspond to my previous tests on gold targets .. During testing, I noticed that the bullet had a N.9 ..is definitely a more challenging target ... especially for my detector PI Garrett ATX ... on a standard 12x10" DD coil .. as a very small flatter gold targets / 0.027 gram / which this detector can detect..on 2-2.5 cm .!!! ...enlarge this picture ..!!! ------------------------------------------ ... Therefore, I decided to adjust 3 spherical shots of N.9 to different surface shapes and then test it ... ... the result has not changed ... all 3 ar of the shots N.9 remained invisible to the 12x10" DD standard ATX coil ... but small gold 0.027 grams of gold target was detected at a distance of 2 to 2.5 cm .... what I consider to be such a big coil.. really great result ..!!! ................................................................... In the end I decided to test the PI Garrett ATX still on a small 3x7" power DD coil from Infinium LS ...This little coil... is completely new, because it came to me from the seller yesterday... ....The test result of the small 3x7"DD infinium coil pleasantly surprised me ... because the ATX reach of small 0.027 gram gold targets increased from 2-2.5 cm up to 4-4.5 cm ... !!!👍 enlarge this picture .. and you will see better...!!! .....and this small coil began to see two pieces of the flattest shots N.9 ... if it's only when the target almost touches the coil at the intersection of the TX and RX windings of the coil ..!!! Now I can say .... that PI Garrett ATX ... these flat shots N.9 can really "technically" detect ... even if it's completely at the reel .. -I'm satisfied with the result .. even though I still failed to detect the round and also the least flattened shot N.9 .. In fact, I am more pleased with the fact that on this small 3x 7 "DD coil..l, the reach has increased to my very small 0.027 gram gold to 2 times .. at 4.5cm compared to the standard ATX 12x10" DD coil ...!!! So the "Magic" of using a Smaller coil "on this PI detector also works successfully ... and the smaller coil has been able to improve the sensitivity and reach of ATX for very small targets. I'm glad that ATX on a small 3x7 "coil started to detect my 0.01 gram gold target -... even if only at a distance of 2-3mm from the coil.. ..👍 ------------------------------------------------------ In the final picture.. you can see that the really flat form of lead shot N.9 is already detectable .., but only right next to the coil.. ... but also note the good range of 4cm .. small 3x7 "Power DD coil for target "35 pieces fine gold" of very small gold with a total weight of 0.4 grams gold .. It is also a complicated target .. and standard 12x10"DD ATX coil... can only be seen at 1.5-2 cm ..!!! I will also be happy ..to reach my favorite test target 0.1 gram of gold .. where the reach of a small coil is really nice 10 cm .!!! ---------------------------------------------------- PS....At the end of this test, I asked myself one question .... do we really need a detector that will detect such small lead micro targets? From a "Technical point of view", detecting a target like leadshot N.9 is a really cool thing .., But.... Isn't it better to use a detector that eliminates a substantial amount of such junk targets ... but still detects very small and sometimes much smaller gold ???... And this applies not only to PI detectors but also to VLFs... I think it's a good question for further discussion ....👍
  10. "Recovery speed" .. is a complex and optimized setting .. ,, which was created by a combination of two important detector settings: The 1st setting is ... "Ground Filter" .... which is responsible for the filtering of the terrain signal .... Low" Ground Filter" is deeper..but even less filters the mineralization of the terrain ,, and slower regenerates after capturing the iron signal / separation / .... on the contrary high Ground Filter will better filter the mineralization of the terrain ,,, but will be shallower ... on the other side regenerates faster after capturing the iron signal .... / which improves the separation / 2nd setting - the "Length of work of the given Ground filter" is also called "Recovery delay" ... which determines how long this Ground filter should process the detected signal in one working cycle ... it is clear that the faster - faster Ground filter will have a Recovery delay a bit shorter than the low ground filter ... which works slower ... Since it is difficult for an ordinary detector to set and properly combine these two parameters ... the detector manufacturers combine these two settings into one setting called "Recovery Speed" or "Reactivity" ... which is easier to set and more logical to use ... And this has also contributed to the popularity of such detectors ...
  11. Geof_junk.... and Steve Herschbach.......... you are absolutely right .... the default settings of the recovery speed of other users ... they can only be a good design and they can or they don't have to sit down completely ... on your specific terrain ...👍 It's good to try them and compare them even better ... and maybe you'll find your settings somewhere in the middle ... Set the right recovery speed ... It's like driving a car with a manual transmission ... and every terrain requires shifting to the right gear to successfully cross the terrain .... and feel like ... it will help in completely challenging terrain the most reduced setting of the "4x4" type / additional settings in the detector / so that you can handle this terrain ... from my experience ... If I detect some not too large terrain on which I found nice finds ... most of the time I know to cross this terrain 2x .... on many different recovery speed settings .... I usually do the first detection at recovery speed 3-4 .... and then after crossing the place I will change the recovery speed to 6-7 and mark a few good signals from the field ..... important in all this is also adequate sweeping with coil../ I slowly pull the coil /.... not faster ... than is necessary for good separation of targets in iron .... but also will help in the mineralization of the terrain ... where high recovery speed will work better. .. ...because high recovery speed provides a separation advantage .... which is also very important ..and therefore the terrain often pays to switch to high recovery speed ... even if you have a mild terrain ... .....if I detect in really strong mineralization ... I use recovery speed 5 and 7 ..... --------------------------------------------------- .... So now let's return to the topic .... what the reactivity setting will be the deepest in lightly mineralized terrain .... whether the recovery speed setting to 2-3 will be the deepest and optimal setting for many detectors ... / EQUINOX , DEUS2, DEUS1, ATREX / and from the second page we will see how such low reactivity of the signature on the detection of the last 2 separation targets ...
  12. GB_Amateur...... ..I communicated with Mike .. and he said that the mineralization on Deus 2 reached one to two ... bars of mineralization on the meter ... on this test field .. which means slight mineralization of the terrain... ....now the official test of Equinox 800 from the seller of Minelab, the setting of Equinox in the test is program Park2, sensitivity 21, recovery speed 3, iron bias 0, threshold 13, and audio 2 tone ...
  13. According to * Mike,... the terrain was slightly / moderately mineralized ...this would agree as well as the deepest setting of Equinox 800 for recovery speed 3 / for moderately-moderately demanding ... terrain /.. I'll ask Mike what the mineralization meter showed for Deus I and Deus II.... and I know ..👍
  14. Tom Dankowski and Steve Herschach are excellent representatives from two worlds of detection .... Their very different types of field detection conditions ... for maximum effective detection .. require very different detector settings ... something about the correct setting of recovery speed ,, and also other detector settings .. While Tom Dankowski ... in detection on his slightly mineralized terrains / 1-3 bar Fe3O4 / .. prefers equinox 800 recovery speed 3 ... for the best depth of detection .... Because Equinox in slightly mineralized terrain will really be the deepest recovery speed 3 for coin targets .... But .... such a detector setting will not work optimally for Steve Herschbach .... which normally detects in very highly mineralized terrains .... / 5-7bar Fe3O4 / which requires a minimum recovery speed of approximately 5-7 for Equinox 800 .... according to the strength of the terrain mineralization .. to achieve a really good depth of detection and stability of signals and .... that means good results in detection ... if in such a heavily mineralized terrain on the Equinox 800 date recovery speed at 3 you lose the depth and stability of detection .... simply lower recovery speed will not work here ,,,, and many targets you will simply pass ... PS. in terms of depth and sensitivity of detectors to small targets in the depths ... ,, last weekend was held in the Czech Republic Minelab day ... which Minelab sellers made a demanding test field with deeply buried Celtic gold coins of various sizes ... at maximum depths. ..which was able to detect Equinox..../at recovery speed 3/ ... I will say that it is extremely deep ../ 1.target "1/24 gold stater" -0.3 gram gold coin at 14cm deep... 2.target ..1/8 stater-0.5gram gold at 18cm, 3 target ..1/3stater 1.5gram gold at 23cm deep, 4.target ..1 stater 5 gram gold at 30 cm, 5. target ..1 silver roman denarius at 25cm 6.target 1dukat -3.5gram gold coin at 29cm , 7.target 3. Kreuzer ..silver coin at 27 cm deep.. 8 .target 28 mm - 3.5gram silver Groshus Pragensis at 32 cm deep 9 . target 28mm -3.5gram silver coin Groshus Pragensis at 37cm.. 10. target .... 1 silver Thaller ..../size 1 Silver Dollar/ coin at 40 cm.. 11. .. WW2 militatry ID..... at 55cm deep.... ... and 2 separacion targets coin in to iron.. My colleagues.. Mike and Jack from "Top Diggin" .. made some videos ... from tests..and testing various Equinox, Deus II, Atrex, Deus I....and others detectors .... on this test field ... ,, and it will be interesting to see how effective the settings ... were effective in detecting these really ... demanding and deep targets ... When I edit these videos with pictures and mark the depth of targets I will publish them ...you will see what recovery-reactivity settings must be used for different detectors, if you have reached such deep targets ...
  15. This test situation is similar to "Sube's test ".... with one aluminum pulltab with a center and two silver coins on the sides of the pulltab. it's Test for true target ID ...which shows which type of target the detector can lock the VDI signal ... We test the "detection logic" of the detector ... in a situation like this ... that simulates conductive ground pollution ... in this case, low-conductivity aluminum scrap ... This test passes my Equinox 800 at 1 frequency 4 and 5 khz ,,,, I would also try to use it in David's test ... which uses small pieces of aluminum on the surface and a coin 2 inches lower. Both detectors Spectra V3 and Tek.G2 ...locked the signal on the VDI Silver Coin....!!! This fully coincides with the "American detection philosophy" of the detector constructor ... who I prefer and in such a situation the locking of the mixed signal on the VDI - High Conductivity "Silver Tariff" ... and the suppression of the low conductive VDI ... Equinox uses more of the "European detection philosophy", which in such a slump will prefer VDI targets - such as the low-conductivity silver / gold Hammerred coin, or small aluminum... ---------------------------------------------------------- PS. Spectra V3 is very specific in this case .... it can even completely suppress the signal of the low-conducting target ... / nickel / for the previous signal with the higher VDI ...- if the low-conducting coin is the last target .... ... I noticed this many years ago during Spectra tests on various conductive coins placed side by side, ... ...At the time, I considered it a technical flaw ... Spectra V3 ,, but now, after years, I know ... that it was the technical focus of the Whites designers ... which was targeted at the American Environment Detection-where detection of high-conductivity targets is preferred. .-American silver coins ...
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