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10 minutes ago, Gold Seeker said:
Sorry, it was a typo, Just talked to Frank and confirmed he's still at 3325.
Thank you,
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6 hours ago, Mike Furness said:
And I was one of those on site witnesses. Frank was having trouble pinpointing the exact location of that nugget in the deep wide hole he had dug. I hollered down to him from above the wash he was in asking if he was on to something. He asked if I had a smaller coil and yes I did so I brought my machine down to him. After a couple of swings and a couple more scoops of dirt he put a handful of dirt into my hand with a huge grin on his face. The nugget was still covered in dirt but I felt the extra weight and knew immediately that he had his target. I wanted to clean the dirt off right away but out of respect I handed the nugget still covered in dirt back to Frank so he would see the first sight of it. Once he saw it there were a few words spewing from his mouth not in anger but pure joy of finding that nugget in the wash. As I recall the hole it came out of was pretty deep. I'm guessing at this point probably about 2 feet ... maybe a bit more. Great find Frank and glad I could share a small part of it with you.
Mike do you know if Frank still lives at 3335?
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1 hour ago, GotAU? said:
Doc,
I knew you were criminologist, but I didn’t know the rest of that. Wow! Organizational Psychology is a very interesting subject. For all the larger companies I’ve worked for, the best ones were two that actually used contractors specializing in this to help with employee morale programs and they were pretty good. And as you know, those companies with owners and supervisors who don’t really care end up with very short employee recidivism, and end up with high training costs, lower employee productivity, etc. A close friend of our specializes in it also, and she’s very busy in the bay area with many corporate clients.
You were absolutely spot on with the Gspot scoop. It does speed up sorting out the waste from the heavies, particularly all that time wasting lead! At least with iron one can take it out quickly with a magnet, but man I hate lead, as do every other prospector out there. The scoop was a great idea.
As for the Dalas project though, I’m sorry that I have to report that I still haven’t any idea how pizza and a paddle have to do with prospecting but I’m sure it will be a good one for the unveiling! 😄
Hopefully this will be a delightful surprise for every detectorist. I mean just off the top of my head I can see how a Pizza and a paddle would go together. You have never seen a PIZZA PEEL PADDLE? But that has nothing to do with the clues. 🤣
You know I'm loving this, RIGHT?
Doc
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19 minutes ago, Valens Legacy said:
If I a ready what the package is wanting to say is, if you screw up your going to be drilled.
Nice scoops by the way, and I need some more moonshine.
Well it would not be the first time I botched something. The SAGA Guide Arm was an example. That was an absolute FUBAR the first go around. Fortunately I only had about 10 prototypes that I put out for testing and we learned real quick that they were under engineered.
That led to a vastly superior product that people absolutely love.
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GotAU,
Yes I developed the Phase II Profile Work Ethics Profile in 1977. It had patents in the U.S. and in Canada. I still have over 880 clients that use my profiles around the world. As you probably know I have a Ph.D. in Criminal Psychology with a minor in Industrial and Organizational Psychology. I have developed other profiles that are widely used as well. I have one client who used over 26,000 of my Sales Success Profiles last year. They have been a client for over 20 years. In fact my average client has been using my employment tests for 23 years.
You didn't really think I make money selling metal detecting accessories do you? LOL
I have a nice income from my testing business. It's all intellectual property with proprietary scoring algorithms based on statistics gathered from literally millions of tests.
My profiles are very unique because the scoring algorithms are based on Validity and Reliability. Unlike typical tests where there are right and wrong answers. My algorithms are based on how valid and how reliable each question is at predicting whatever behavior you are trying to measure. So each question is weighted differently. In fact some answers give you points, and some answers take points away based on how valid and reliable they are. So one answer may give you 1.83 points, another may deduct 2.17 points.
Validity refers to how valid a question is in predicting what you are trying to measure. Reliability refers to how consistently that question predicts whatever behavior it is you are trying to measure. So lets take this question for example.
I have murdered someone in cold blood. TRUE or FALSE.
If someone answers that question TRUE, it is 100% statistically valid in predicting whether someone is a murderer. (Maybe less if someone is just jerking the test around.) If they answer FALSE, the validity sucks because killers will lie. Now as far as Reliability goes, TRUE answers are always reliable, everyone who answers TRUE in all likelihood is a killer, or they are stupid and can't read. So reliably people who answer TRUE are killers, but reliability refers to if they take the same test a year later, will they still answer TRUE? In other words reliability refers to how consistently the same person would answer that question over time.
Interesting note: The Phase II Profile, (Work Ethics General Honesty) is scored on a basis of 200 points. 148 and above is acceptable. 139 to 147 is questionable. Below 139 unacceptable. We gave the test to 60 some convicted felons involved in some crime involving theft. Armed robbery, grand larceny, embezzlement, car theft, etc. We told them if they could pass with at least a 139 we would add $25 to their commissary account.
We told them to do the best they could but remember there is a "FAKED GOOD" scale which will invalidate the test if the test senses they are lying to make themselves look good. A FAKED GOOD score of 8 or less on a 10 point scale automatically fails them.
NOT ONE, was able to pass, and the average score was -14. MINUS 14!
With that income from my test business I am able to develop new and exciting metal detecting accessories. It's sort of my hobby. I love inventing things. I just had no idea so many customers would love the things I invent. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
So, doing patents is a very expensive process. AND, it's almost senseless. All someone has to do is change some aspect of what you invented and the $25,000 you spent on your patent is useless. OR they claim they reverse engineered it. "Patent Applied" for means nothing. In order for you to prosecute the patent and answer all of the questions and challenges from the patent office is exhausting and costly.
My tact is to create something very unique and well thought out. Spare no expense in development and have it manufactured in the tens of thousands, to get the price down so low, there is no incentive for someone to rip me off. And if they do, it's never as good. Also I do not use "off the shelf" stuff to try and Jerry Rig some new product. If it's worth doing it's worth doing right and having it made from scratch to my exact specifications so there is no compromising on quality.
I do think 3D printing has been a great advancement for the inventor because now they can actually create new and innovative customized things and make their ideas come to life. Look at the support ears for the Equinox Coils. Great idea that helped many folks prevent the coil ears from breaking or repairing ears that had already broke.
That's why I own over 3 freaking miles of bungee. Because I wanted it to my exact specifications and 3 miles was the minimum order for customized Bungee with 50% stretch UV Dacron Polyester sheath.
I created the GSpot scoop which has been wildly popular and successful. $14.95. Sona, a Chinese company that manufactures very inexpensive gold prospecting equipment, decided to come out with their version, retail $14. See pictures. The SONA Scoop is great if you like to fill the riffles up with small rocks and debris and spend your time digging out the crud. This is what happens when someone who is not a prospector tries to rip off a great idea but does it so poorly, that it increases your sales.
THE TYPE OF PIZZA IS AMAZING!While the DALAS™ is AMAZING that is not what the clue PIZZA refers to.
Sorry for the long run on, but this is how my mind works, a million miles a second going in 40 different directions all at once.
Doc
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14 hours ago, dirtman said:
Doc you touched on a sensitive subject for me.
JB's Ouncer Club 🎯👌
When I 1st heard mentioned many years ago It left an impression on me I can't explain.
There was nothing more important in my life after learning about it.
A College Or Special Ed Diploma, Meeting the President, Dinner with a Celebrity, nothing was more important.
I had to Achieve it, it became an obsession to me. Someone could spend the rest of their life trying to detect an ounce or larger nugget and fail completely odds were against it.
I spent years at it and Dam if I didn't Trip the Switch and Beat the odds one day. And By more than double a 2.49 Oz piece.
Looked like Vampire Fangs coming down both sides of it hence the photo in mouth 🤣😂
It was the Vampire Nugget of the Ouncer Club 👍👌
And with multiple witnesses hunting along side me at the time 👍
It was more important to me than any education certificates could be.
Another Creation of J.B. it turned me into a Gold Monster and Loving every minute of it all thru the years !
I think I've had every hobby, interest, and Vice and Detecting for Nuggets is the Finest one of ALL. 👑👍
Frank,
Do you still live at 3325?
Keep an eye out in your mail box. I have something I know JB would want you to have to go with that certificate.
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2 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:
"Minelab Partner Conference Adelaide Australia, May 13th to the 19th 2025"
Sounds like a GPZ 8000 introduction to me.
All they have to do to make a splash is repackage the GPZ7000 in a form factor like the GPX6000 make it lite, and add discrimination.
They do that and Ebay will have a glut of used GPZ7000's up for sale.
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FIRST CLUE: This is the assembly kit that comes with the DALAS™ (No you do not have to drill any of your equipment.)
SECOND CLUE: Pizza
THIRD CLUE: Up the creek without a ____________.
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Oh man my heart aches for this one. John B. God Bless You brother. What a great generous guy. He got steaks for the outings more than one time.
He would always allow you to hunt his claim out in Gold Basin. Quite the man.
My thoughts and prayers are with the family. Seems like we lose more and more of the legacy of South Western gold prospectors as time goes on.
We lost Joe DeMarco in November of 2022. He was only 52. A fellow MiNELAB Dealer and very well known in the industry. Made it to every Dealer Conference. He died while Metal Detecting.
I told you Metal Detecting was dangerous. It was quite a shock when I heard about Joe as well as John.
I first met John in person in 2001 in Gold Basin at the annual Beanorama. Read about it here.
https://docsdetecting.com/beanorama-fall-2001/
All I knew of him before was all of the heated arguments regarding which metal detector was better.
Well little did I know this was one of the nicest guys in the industry and certainly had a wealth of knowledge about not only finding gold but meteorites
John had 2 enormous binders of letters from museums all over the country to whom he had donated meteorites. All he would ask is that they would appraise the value of the donation and send him a letter attesting to the fact that he had donated a piece of the universe. He even had a letter from the Vatican Museum in Rome. The letterhead was amazingly beautiful. And the appraisal of the meteorite was also "unwordly." John would submit copies of these letters with his tax returns every year to claim the charitable deduction. Everything was above board, he never placed a value on anything. I mean is the I.R.S. going to argue with the Vatican that a meteorite was worth $13,000? (I can't remember the exact amount, but it was a "No way Jose, amount."
John was also the originator and founder of the 1 Ounce Club. He would award an impressive certificate to anyone who had verified that they had found a nugget with a metal detector weighing at least 1 ounce. To that end, a year ago I had some beautiful pins made up and sent a bunch of them to John. This was so he would have a pin to give out with his certificates.
Rest in peace pioneer and adventure seekers, I'm sure we will all catch up with you on down the road.
Doc
This picture was taken at the annual outing down at Vulture Mine area in 2022.
JB holding court. I left camp about 8 am Saturday morning, came back at 12 noon and JB and crew hadn't moved an inch. JB said he was afraid to move for fear he might step onto the Road Runner's claim.
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Gerry,
Minelab Partner Conference Adelaide Australia, May 13th to the 19th 2025!
Be there or I'll be lonely.
I'll probably be there alone this time around. My wife has our new Grandchild to take care of, and I intend to go for 30 days and go detecting if I can find and pay a guide to go one on one in the Outback.
I had it all lined up the last time and Co-Vid happened and I lost around $5000 in airline tickets. Because while they were supposed to issue vouchers, instead they just went bankrupt.
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On 3/10/2024 at 9:28 PM, mn90403 said:
Ok, I didn't recognize Gerry. My bad.
You can't miss Retta.
That was Retta, she was little but you couldn't miss her. Even if you didn't see her, you could still hear her.
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There are two pictures. What am I missing?
Doc1 hour ago, mn90403 said:Doc, you are missing some pictures!
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I have a pile of SD cards that I started looking through. Every time I have an outing I put a new SD card in my camera so I have plenty of room for videos. Which is crazy because these cards hold so much.
So this guy has been a very close friend of mine since the beginning of when I got into this. He's a fellow Minelab dealer. He's a good Christian, he's gives fantastic support to his customers. He's invited me to detect on his claim. I was there when he got married and I have watched his daughter grow up from birth into a beautiful young lady. This man is just an all around nice guy and you can never go wrong dealing with Rob Allison. This picture is of Rob and his hunting partner Dennis and I. Picture date May 2013
These next two people are also dear to my heart.
Both Minelab dealers. I've known Gerry McMullen forever. He has single handedly probably trained more people how to use a metal detector than all of us other dealers put together. Gerry is a no-nonsense guy, former Marine with a very dry sense of humor. I think Gerry and his wife Michelle and my wife and I have been all over the world to every Minelab annual partner conference that has been held. You can always count on Gerry to help you out if he can. Need a machine for customer, and Minelab is out, Gerry is always willing to loan you a machine so your customer is not disappointed. Gerry continues to be a driving force in this industry. He also received Mienlab's coveted EAGLE award for outstanding dealer of the year.
This next person was known as the Gold Lady. Retta Atkins was such a joy. She was funny as hell and sort of a miniature Dolly Parton. If you didn't know her personality I can explain it this way. If Dolly Parton and Larry the Cable Guy had a baby, that was Retta.
Unfortunately about a year and a half ago Retta and her boyfriend Darren were brutally shot and murdered in a home invasion. To Retta's spunk and spirit she got off a shot and wounded the assailant in the shoulder. But that didn't stop him from chasing her into the bedroom and emptying his gun. The intruder was looking for gold and obviously had insider information regarding Retta and her business. The world of metal detecting is a sadder place without Retta Atkins in it. She was a very close friend, we probably spoke every week. She is missed and remembered by all that knew her. They thought they had caught her murderer in a shoot out in which the suspected assailant killed himself. Later it was discovered that was not the person when they arrested the person who was responsible for their murders. This individual was found with evidence taken from Retta's home and had a healed bullet wound from where he had been shot. Daniel Matthew Avila, age 25 was arrested in March of 2023 when he was involved in another home invasion and the bullets from that scene matched the bullets from Retta's home.
This picture is of Gerry McMullen and Retta in Sunset Park in Las Vegas Nevada when we were being trained by Minelab on the then new and yet to be released CTX3030. Picture date May 2012. The other gentleman in the picture is Greg Johns a former tech with Minelab from Australia. I think Greg has gone on to other pursuits. If my memory serves me correctly he purchased a large ranch in Australia which was just amazing in terms of the scenery. I hope he is doing well.
Thank you all for your amazing friendship over the years. In case you're wondering I'm not going anywhere, but I'm getting that age where I have a heck of a lot more history that I do future. These folks have been part of that memorable history that I have had. Thanks guys, and God Bless You Retta.
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I was looking through some of my old pictures today and man the memories!
Many years ago I had the occasion to go to Rye Patch for an outing.
Now I had been to Rye Patch a couple of times. Once I got snowed out on the second day and once I got rained out on the second day. First time I went was in 1991 in my little Suzuki Samurai. I loved that little buggy. I didn't care that I could see the ground passing under me through the rotted-out floorboard. LOL
This time I went North most importantly knowing, I would see some old friends and catch up on non-sense. Little did I know I would meet a couple of new friends who were about the sweetest folks I have ever met.
So this goofy guy, named Lucky, and his lovely wife Robin sort of took me under their wing. Lucky invited me to come along with him the next day prospecting and man he put me right in the middle of the gold. And by the way, if anyone knows how to find gold it is Lucky Lundquist. Probably no one knows more about Rye Patch than Lucky. The stay in Rye Patch was one of my most memorable. and not because of the little gold I dug out of the ground, but the big golden friendship that was formed with Lucky and Robin.
They invited me to eat with them, and we shared stories. Lucky can hang with the best of them when it comes to storytelling. And he is funny as all get out and genuine and just an all-around nice man. He's the kind of guy you are proud to call a friend.
So Lucky! This one's for you buddy.
God Bless You and Robin.
Doc
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Let me try to confuse the issue more. Because I understand what is going on, but I always try to explain things the way my average customer can understand. I may not use technically accurate words but they help my customers understand the basic concept.
So as has been explained, timings are nothing more than adjusting the length of the pulse. Long pulses go deep and find larger gold. These are strong pulses and so they are able to go deep. However, remember, in metal detecting for every plus, there is a negative. When that long pulse is on, and sends energy into the ground. and then turns off, the detector starts measuring the decay rate of that energy. In other words, how fast does that energy go away? The detector keeps a running average of this decay rate. Now what affects this decay rate? Well mineralization for one thing. When you super charge the ground with a long pulse, it goes deeper, but that means there is a lot of mineralization that is subjected to that energy field. So every pulse on pulse off produces a different decay rate, however the detector is looking at the running average and all of this is happening in milliseconds.
So the first swing let's say on a scale of 1 to 10 it has a decay rate of 1.2 then 1.3 then 1.2 then 1.1. Now you pulse energy into the ground and a piece of metal is there, or gold, it holds on to that energy and changes that decay rate to let's say 4.2. Instantaneously that drastic increase in decay rate above the running average is so dramatic the detector alerts the operator via a signal that there is a target in the ground.
Now what is the downside to a long pulse? All that mineralization gets supersaturated and because the decay rate is longer with highly mineralized ground, it can mask very small gold.
So that is why there are short pulses. Because they don't go as deep and do not energize so much mineralization. So smaller gold increases that decay rate more easily above the running average and produces a target signal.
The first series of Pulse Induction machines Minelab came out with, the SD2000 SD2100 and SD2200 would rarely find sub gram pieces because there was no variation in pulse or energy. So the ground became oversaturated and finding small gold just did not happen.
In the GP series Minelab made the first attempt to mitigate this oversaturation problem. So the GP Extreme, GP3000 and GP3500 they introduced DUAL VOLTAGE technology. The theory being that if they alternated full power pulse with partial power pulse the ground would not become so overly saturated. And VIOLA, we started finding smaller gold.
Then with the GPX series they introduced the ability to change those pulses or soil timings. I'm pretty sure they combined that with the dual voltage technology.
So that is how I try to explain what happens with these different iterations of the Minelab Pulse Induction machines.
Now the GPZ7000 is a totally different animal and perhaps someday I will try to explain that in layman's terms. It is not a pulse induction machine, and yet it still measures decay rate. How do you measure decay rate when there is no starting and ending event? With Pulse Induction, the starting and ending event is pulse off pulse on. The GPZ7000 energy is on all the time. So what is the starting and ending event? I will let you think on that one.
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6 hours ago, LuckyLundy said:
Congratulations! 🎊 New Wear House looks like a Store Front. Is that new Lift 4x4? I know a few vertical hydro pit walls I’d like to introduce it to!
Rick
That would be cool wouldn't it? They are pretty emphatic that you have to keep it on level ground when lifting.
Some of those old vertical hydraulic walls are a challenge unless you have an anti-gravitation belt.
I don't know at what point it would tip over but I'm not willing to test it out either.
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7 hours ago, matt said:
Very cool Doc! I like the picker too, but actually more interested in your new warehouse. I'll probably call you to further discuss if that's ok?
Sure Matt, call at 702-419-3070
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It weighs about 1900 pounds, with about 1650 pounds of that being in the base due to weight plates and the batteries. It's amazingly stable. I picked it up in California it was strapped to a pallet. They loaded it in my trailer with a forklift. I expressed concerns that it might tip over. They told me, it's not going anywhere, it's like a toothpick sticking out of a concrete block.
So I drive 300 miles back to Las Vegas, I go from sea level to over 5000 feet going over the mountains. I got home and that thing had not moved an inch.
I will admit, taking it all the way to the top does have a bit of a "Holy Mother of Jesus" factor to it.
It's made by a company that also makes forklifts so they know all about weighting things properly. In one of their videos they show a guy driving it down the aisle while he is raising the thing up in the air. I don't think I'll be doing any of that trick driving. Just take it where I need it. Stop it, raise it up, scream all the way, lower it and cry. LOL
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2 hours ago, phrunt said:
Might be best to wait until they hit the USA, DD Leather in OZ that make most the GPX and GPZ covers people use are looking at making covers for it too, so you'd have competition in this part of the world.
The battery cover I think is the most important cover, and it has to be super lightweight, or it just makes a light detector heavy.
Phrunt even my covers for the GPZ7000 and the GPX6000 only weigh 8 ounces. This arm cuff cover and the head cover weigh 3 ounces.
I send a lot of merchandise to Australia every week. Especially my covers. My Nugget Stalker® covers are much more expensive and have a lot more detail. They appeal to a different buyer.
But I agree with you, I have no sense of how many have ALGO Force Units have been sold. But I have a couple of dealers in OZ that would offer my covers for sale, if I made them available.
Take care,
Doc
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3 minutes ago, Purplehays69 said:
Make a nice cover for the battery area. That drops kinda like a set of red jammies with the button pooper flap....
Not a bad idea at all. That battery needs to be protected. I think my go to design, with the single layer conveyor belt type material on the bottom would be good protection and it's easy to wipe off with a damp cloth.
Surprisingly enough the battery secures quite nicely with the provided Velcro type straps. I think I would still be tempted to stitch some fuzzy tabs on the inside of the strap, and the opposing hook side with adhesive back onto the battery to make sure it can't work its way out of there.My biggest problem is I don't know what kind of market there is right now. I have no idea how many have been sold in OZ and NZ. You can't really make these covers in 5's and 10's it's too expensive. You need to make at least 500 at a time, to keep the retail cost down.
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So it looks like Algo Force has already sold out of their new Pulse Induction E1300 offering. That's amazing! Congratulations to Algo Force! Were you lucky enough to get one? I know we in the U.S. are temporarily froze out pending FCC certification. But apparently a lot of Aussies and KIWI's couldn't wait to get their hands on one.
HOWEVER... Did you get Doc's Nugget Stalker Cover Set to protect your new Investment?
Doc
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Hey Gang,
I got some news that will make Doc's Detecting even more responsive to my customers than ever before. We have always prided ourselves on Great Customer Service and fast shipping. We have recently made some major purchases and plans for the future.
To be clear I have never used any illegal drugs in my life, never even smoked. That's not that kind of high I'm talking about. But the ol' Doc ain't as young as he used to be. Carrying boxes up on the top of 12 foot high warehouse shelving, by having a 50 lb box on one shoulder and one hand on a shaky ladder is getting a bit too scary.
So started looking at Fork Lifts, but I would have to widen my aisles and we really don't put things on pallets. We stack the boxes full of SWINGY THINGYS, SAGA Swing Arms etc on upper shelves, and as we need them we bring down a box, open it, put it in a large clear plastic bin that we pick from to fill orders.
So in talking to the FORKLIFT company the salesman says, you don't need a Fork Lift, you need an ORDER PICKER. I said, "I am the ORDER PICKER!" He said no, let me send you a picture.
So I went to California Wednesday and picked up my new ORDER PICKER. It's only 29 inches wide. The tray in front will carry over 200 lbs, so it will easily take 4 or 5 boxes of merchandise up with me to put on shelves or retrieve a couple off of a high shelf safely. The bottom below the tray will carry 360 lbs, so you can move a quantity of merchandise around the warehouse to where you want to store it.
This would have been the bomb when I was putting up Christmas tree lights on the house this past Christmas Season.
More BIG NEWS Below the Pictures.
At the end of 2024 we will be moving to a NEW WAREHOUSE that I purchased that is being built as we speak.
This Warehouse Complex, is really cool. There are 29 units and you actually purchase your unit. It's a gated complex. It's like a Home Owners Association. There is a really great Club House with roof top party area with bar-b-q grills and the like. Inside there are meeting rooms and areas that can be used for like a mini show.
The Complex is called "The Stack." It is located 3 miles from my home in the hottest new area of Henderson. It is 1/2 mile from the Henderson airport and The Raiders Practice stadium and the two large Amazon Warehouses.
I must be crazy to think I can keep doing this stuff forever, but I love it, and I see no end in sight. You guys have helped Doc's Detecting Supply grow at an amazing rate and I am eternally grateful. I thank you for your support and I will continue to try to bring you some of the best innovative accessories in the Detecting Prospecting Industry.
Doc
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On 2/14/2024 at 10:18 AM, Gerry in Idaho said:
And to think, some folks actually buy. Silly
Yes Gerry,
But for those that do purchase, will you and Lunk be offering training? 🤣 Just kidding. I wish I had the motivation to train as many people as you do.
You are a real asset to the hobby. A man with a metal detector is no more useful in finding gold than a man with a broom, unless he is trained to use it. You provide a valuable service.
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On 2/14/2024 at 8:38 PM, DSMITH said:
@Doc if you would Double the Length plus maybe 4-6 inches on your current utility belt it would most likely fit a wide variety of body sizes, as your utility belt currently is, I could not get it all the way around me even adjusting the Velcro pieces to make it as long as I could, I still needed another 18-20 inches of length on a single one, but the cost you have on those utility belts is cheap enough that purchasing two and clipping them together is a no brainer at least it was for me
The average man's waist is 40.2 inches and that is how the belt was designed around that average. Allowing some leeway for both larger and smaller waists. However, your waist is over 25% larger than the average and the belt does not have that much adjustment. I'm glad two belts put together is working for you.
Doc
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