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    Need Help With Button Identification

    in Metal Detecting For Coins & Relics

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    I see others beat me to the punch.  Yes, it's the highly coveted N.Y.L. button. 

     

    And as caprock points out, one of their bivwac assignment locations was Monterey, CA (where I live) I've found 2 so far.  And I've seen 3 or 4 others found by buddies in this coastal CA area.   And they get found in G.R. sites , and are highly prized. 

     

    They were only here in Monterey for a short time , before the gold rush broke out, and they all headed to the gold rush  🙂

     

    Not sure of a value, but way-back-when, when I had found one, was offered something on the order of $300 for it, if I recall.  Others have been found since then, so I'm not sure of what current collector demand ($$) would be.  But just that :  They are a niche-unto themselves to find, amongst button enthusiasts and CA history buffs.

     

    Congratz !

    I Thought That It Was About Time That I Posted A Few Detecting Finds.

    in Metal Detecting For Coins & Relics

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    23 minutes ago, Doc Bach said:

    Hello Tom and thanks so much for your comment and friendly p m. As well as your comprehensive chart that you have provided for everyone.And yes that's correct Type 1 Style 2 large size.

     

    Thanx Doc.   How many Phoenix buttons total have you found in your career ?

     

    And :  Are you at liberty to say what type site you found that in ?  And was that in CA or OR ?   Near the Columbia River perhaps ??

    I Thought That It Was About Time That I Posted A Few Detecting Finds.

    in Metal Detecting For Coins & Relics

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    Wow, a Phoenix button ! And a very rare one at that.

     

    Here's a rarity chart I wrote.   Yours is a Type 1 Style 2  And although you don't have anything in your picture for size, yet it appears to be a large.   Right ? 

     

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rX9XFCFw-SKRiUFZfdtzFg7GIjUwzoJJ/view?ts=6182e46f

     

    As you can see, yours is amongst the rarest.   An easy $300 to $500 to the right buyer (although there's not a lot of collector / buyers out there these days, last I looked).

     

    Are you at liberty to say what type of site this came out of ?  And :  How many total P.B.'s in your career so far ? 

     

     

    First Wheatie!

    in Metal Detecting For Coins & Relics

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    You are now a member of the exclusive & elite "wheatie" club.   Next month it will be a merc.   Then a few more months till a barber.   Then a seated, etc...  Bucket listers will fly past !   Within 2 yrs :  Any gold coin newer than 1850 will bore you to tears !  😉

    Unidentified Copper From Near A Ca Catholic Mission

    in Metal Detecting For Coins & Relics

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    23 hours ago, 619_805_okie said:

    Thanks cal. I messaged with tom a bit yesterday. I appreciate the help from you all. The hunt goes on

     

    And my answer was that it doesn't mimic the norm of medallions we find at alta CA mission period medallions.  (1770s to ~ 1830s)  But heck, nor does a lot of the medallions they find in Britain necessarily mimic the type that seem to show up in our CA mission sites either.  But as we know :  They're super old.  

     

    You say "found on a beach", so do you mean : On the beach itself ?  Then in THAT case, 50 or 75 yrs. of perpetual in-out surf action can create the effect of making an otherwise modern medallion, look old.  Even if you found it in the higher dry sand, yet :  That sand could have been prior inter-tidal zone (since beaches erode out and sand-back in, such that was is sand dunes NOW was not necessarily dry in the 1950s, for example).  

     

    So if you found it on the beach, then my guess is modern.  Well, I mean it could still be 1920s or 1950s or whatever, but it's not unusual for regular wheaties to take on an "ancient look" and emerald green after getting beach kissed for 50 to 90 years.

     

    Also, you gave me the name of the mission, and I pointed out to you there's not actually a mission where you pointed out.  Oh sure, it was within the realm of influence (place names, outlying ranchos, etc...) of a CA mission.  But so too can the same be said of most all of the coastal real estate from So. CA all the way to north of SF, and the coastal valleys .

    Friendly Metal Detecting Forum

    in Metal Detecting For Coins & Relics

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    3 hours ago, SeabeeRon said:

    Won't see any from me but Tom_CA did well!

     

    Haha, yes, several buddies and I have been "all over this".  Santa Cruz main beach got "overpowered" .  Ie.:  flattened, and just brought down fluffy dry sand on to the wet.  But other beaches in Monterey bay got benefited.  I'm at about 10 pieces of gold now, lots of silver coins, and tons and tons of clad.   The beach that's been the best for me (as far as target count) has an unfortunately poor ratio of gold jewelry.  But is giving up silver coins.   Albeit beach toast, but .... I love 'em still  🙂

    Keep an eye on Santa Cruz main and Seabright in the coming days and weeks .  Because they are known for having their action come AFTER the event.  Because mother nature can be robbing sand off the inter-tidal zone, to fill in off-shore voids that occurred during the events.  

     

    A buddy of mine tried the main beach last night, and had 120-ish coins, some silver jewelry, and a 14k ring.  But ... aside from a singular pocket near the river mouth, the rest were scattered.  So it hasn't turned red-hot yet.

     

    Haven't heard any reports from Seabright yet.  Anyone here heard ?

     

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