RickUK

RickUK

 

Detech said mono coil should work.

Wow,that was a quick reply,many thanks for all your help,as its christmas time that has just gone on my present list from the wife.Thanks again.

RickUK,

 

I will get with Detech and see if this new generation of coils will work on the TDI.

Many thanks for seeing if this coil will work on the TDI range

On 12/10/2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

Paul seemed quite impressed at Link deleted since Findmall update broke old links and he knows his stuff for sure.

 

How about that nugget you emailed me a picture of Rege - what's the story on that?

Steve,read that earlier on findsmall,did you notice that he has grafted the guts of a GPX onto a Deus shaft,thats a nice looking rig.

Will the new 14'' version work on a Whites TDI sl ??? i am aware that these have been designed for the GPX range but as i understand it the coils from the GPX range will work on a TDI but not the other way around ie TDI on a GPX.

I wont be nugget hunting as we dont have any goldfields in the UK but it would be used for Relic/Hoard Hunting.

On 12/5/2015 at 11:00 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

This is very unscientific but since I have the ear of our friends over the pond, I have a question. Just in terms of general observation at rally's and hunts involving knowledgeable users, what detectors are finding the most favor these days?

By a massive margin it is without doubt the Deus and then the 2nd most popular detector would be the CTX3030,but the Deus would be used the most,both models the full setup and the Lite version are very popular infact if you strolled onto a field every machine i bet that you could see would be the Deus its that popular.

XP UK is no less than Gary from Gary's Detecting,so he should have some good knowledge of XP detectors

Colchester was one of the biggest roman locations in the UK and yes you will of course tend to find more roman coins/artifacts in that area just because of the hugh amount of activity rather than some locations that never had any form of roman occupation.

Must admit i have been detecting for a very long time all over the country including roman areas as well,have found celtic gold full and quarter staters,George111 Guinea and Viccy gold sovereigns as well,but that was spread over many years and must admit i have found more than some folks who have been detecting longer than me.

What gets me is that these detecting trips that are organised to bring folks across the pond to detect on a 2 week detecting jolly seem to find more gold in those locations that what we do,have never figured that one out,you look on the Colchester website and you will find some nice gold coins,staters,sovereign and also multiples on these digs,but we could go for a very long time duration without finding any gold coins,we do find many many silver hammered coins and staters but gold hammered coins are very rare and even these are the holy grail for us,but someone from the other side of the pond always seems to find something decent i guess these 2 week detecting trips must be big business   

Its a very good video and of course its more a PR video than anything and it does show you 'the most technologically advanced metal detectors on the market' and no question about it they are in the top tier detector makers,but even Minelab can make 'White Elephants' as well including some of the current Minelab machine they being the 'Go Find' range.

Which still come under the Minelab brand name and not sure if they are made in house or what ever,but the reception for the lower end 'Go Find' range has been a total disaster for them as everytone who has bought them in the UK has offloaded them within a very short time duration at a massive loss.So although the YouTube video tries to portray they are the best they can also produce some sub standard detectors as well.

Please note i am not knocking the Minelab brand but just highlighting a few facts,the GPX is one of my next machines but not for gold nugget hunting but for deeper hoard hunting,as these machines are superb for that.

This may appear to be a stupid question too most of you folks but i have no knowledge of nugget hunting,i can understand what happens when you find just a pure gold nugget but what happens when the gold is mixed with other items like the quartz that has been mentioned or in veins if that is the right terminolligy with other rocks.

Do you crush it or use chemicals to disolve the rocks and just the gold is left,crushing would seem the logic method but most likely miles off on that one.

Can some one enlighten me please in laymans language,you can tell i am a total gold nugget novice

John,what are your plans for the TDI ??? is it solely for beach work or deep work say like hoard hunting,i currently run 2 PI machies a Crossbow and a Mirage,the CB is for deep work for say hoard hunting and one roman site that is like a beach but 90 miles inland and a Pulse is the only machine that will cope with those conditions.

The Mirage has fine gold timing and is ideally suited for small gold jewellery but also can be changed into a normal Pulse with a flip of a switch,i guess one can compaire them to like having a cooker and a microwave oven.Put a TDI Pro may do all these things from one machine.

I buy a few ready made First aid kits from our local petrol staion when they have them on special offer,they come with all the basic requirments in a small hard plastic case and can fit either in your pack pack or even in a pocket of a coat,i dont think i could buy all the same equipment for the same price and its all ready packed for the job.All ways handy to keep with you in the car as well.Its sods law that the only time you leave the first aid kit at home something happens.

John,same as you i buy most of my stuff from Laura,may give them a ring before the weekend,i all ready have 2 PI machines,but always fancied the TDI pro.

Thanks again for your post.

John,did you buy the TDI Pro from a UK dealer or shipped from abroad,as the UK stopped selling them,would love to have bought one but i have always hated those 'S' shaped shafts,the Whites shaft as on most of the detector range including the TDI are the nicest ones going in my mind.

If you dont want to post the supplier on the forum you can PM if you like,i think the original reason for stopping the TDI Pro being sold in the UK was the carriers would not carry them due to the potential fire problems of the batteries.

Steve,a very good post,these days i can only detector for long periods of time with a full harness,i do have and use a GPX style full harness as well as a backpack harness like yourself for when i am out on a all day detecting trip,keep the basics just in case accidents happen etc,the toilet paper one is a very important accessory.

Only one thing that i am not sure about your packpack is the water bladder,never used one myself so cannot be 100% sure,but do you have too sterilise the bladder and pipework in any way as bacteria can and could cause problems,so i would guess they do have to be cleaned thoroughly in some way ???

If i am just out for a few hours but in-sight of the truck then i dont bother with the main full harness i tend to use a cut down version if that makes sense,no need for waterproofs or any major other gear as it would usually be just a few minutes walk back to the 4x4,but when i am out on say a full days detecting then the fully equiped backpack/harness is used.

Of course mine does not have a water bladder in the back as over here in the UK we dont have deserts or gold fields   but we do of course have gold coins/artifact so no pick is not used,we of course hunt and recover finds differently to you folks.

Must admit i do carry a mobile phone albeit its switched off most of the time to stop problems of EMI with the detector,GPS is carried so we can mark the hoards if we find one.

Must admit although we mostly do different styles of detecting this is one of my favourite forums.

Dont believe anything that site prints,everything that it prints is pure hoax and just made up.

That does look like a very interesting wireless setup and will take a closer look,have been using the TDK700 setuo for about 18 months it works fine for me but like most aftermarket wireless headphones some are better than others,the most common problem with Blutooth is sometimes more than often you can get a slight delay,some work on different freq's and have advantages but as yet no set has won the detecting circle over 100%.

With my TDK they work fine on my T2 and Crossbow and Mirage Pulse machines infact they work very well,but on some machines they do not sound right audio wise and of course audio is king with detecting,i mainly like using my TDK headphones during the summer as they are light,only draw back with this setup is you nust keep a back ground hum or audio threshold other wise they can cut off after say 2-3 minutes to save battery life.But when using the T2 and PI machines theshold audio is not a problem.

Seems a little odd that this member last posted in March and also last visited as late as 16th June but no updates from him on how he is getting on with his detecting and detector,they say that no news is good news but in this instance something does seem rather unusual.

Has anyone heard how the opening poster has got on detecting ??? he has not been on the forum since April,it seem at the time to gather alot of interest this thread and then just died,no updates from Professor Hester on how his detecting adventures have gone or even how he was getting on with his new detector.

Has anyone heard anything and any latest updates ???

I have always said that if you are not sure about anything be it metal detecting or anything else i ask for help,advice or what ever so you have not asked any stupid questions.

One thing that i cannot work out and probably not my business,but i will ask it anyway but in one of your posts you mentioned about not having much electronic knowledge but you have the following qualifications.

First, I want to thank you all collectively for trying to help a novice. I am a CPA, a Professor of Accounting, CFO but I am not an electrical engineer. What I don’t know about being an engineer would fill a library; however, if I can ever help you with an accounting or finance question, that is what my library is full of.

But my question is that you have decided But I could not find a metal detector in my price range of ($300-$350) that met those two requirements I am back to square one and I guess I will not be purchasing a metal detector at this time.

It does seem odd that someone with so much knowledge in finance and accounting cannot stretch to such a small amount for a starter machine,of course i could well be missing the point,but it did seem a little odd if that makes sense.

I would like to wish you all the very best for the future and hope you find your perfect machine.

For what I read looks like that nobody believes in luck, what about 70% ability, knowledge, skill, 20% the machine and 10% luck, you can be as knowledgeable as you want, have the best metal detector but if you don't have at least a bit of luck in your side, you will be keeping researching, upgrading metal detectors and watching others find gold.

This is only my opinion.

Cheers

I did mention the luck aspect in my earlier post on this thread,luck does have a big part to play with detecting :D

But you are correct no one else seems to have mentioned it

Research,location,skill level of the detector operator,the detector that you use and do you fully understand what its telling you and also a bit of luck.

All of these items play a big part in your success,it makes no odds on what type of detecting you do i have never hunted gold nuggets but i do hunt for coins and artifact/hoards and we all adapt techniques for our different types of detecting.

Folks in Aussie land use mainly Pulse machines but you try using one as a general everyday machine on a trashy roman site,it would drive you loopy.

For me detecting is all about enjoying myself,if i ever lost my passion for detecting i would pack up and sell everything.

The bottom line a metal detector is basically just lumps of plastic and some electronic component inside,on its own it wont find you anything and also it makes no odds if you have the most expensive detector on the planet,its the skill of the operator that makes all the difference.

Also no one detector or coil combination can do it all,exactly the same as no one golf club can do it all,with a budget of say $300 then the EuroTek Pro would be a good all round starter machine,coins are much easier to find and also the most common due to them being a everyday item but your other request of gold is not that easy.

You have mentioned a budget and also the types of items that you are intended on looking for but have you given thought to locations to detect,as that side of things you have not mentioned,you started out getting all technical and requesting a lot of detecting information but left out a lot of basic equipment requirements like digging tools, pinpointers and the other basic equipment.

You mentioned about will a detector detect silver or nickel ore,its a metal detector after all so the answer should be yes,trouble is and this is not aimed at you personally but a lot of new folks in recent years have seen these various high profile media shows about finding buried treasure and massive amounts of gold but in the ral world i am afraid its nothing like that.After many years detecting i have found some stunning finds i wont go into specific details but i also still find lots of every day junk its all part of detecting.

If you really want to get into the technical side of detector and want specific details then the Geotech forum is the one,and one of the co-owners George Overton is a very good friend of mine over here in the UK.

With me its all about getting out and enjoying this wonderful hobby of ours called detecting,although some folks get excited talking about how they own the most expensive detector or how many knobs and whistles and bells they have.

As you are just starting out,just get a basic setup and enjoy this hobby rather than getting into the real technical issues of a detector,and learn what its telling you is much more important than any electronic spec.

You give a experienced detectorist a basic detector and he will still find items but give a expensive machine to a novice and he will find very little if at all

Never used one of these hydration packs,the main reason we dont have any desert enviroment in the UK,someone did buy one just to keep a drink on hand during the hot summer,but as i understand it you do have to keep the pipe work ultra clean and sterilize it often other wise bacteria can take hold.

I never put my detectors into my truck till the morning of the day that i am out detecting,i use to take 3-4 of them with me at all time,but in recent years a few have gone missing while folks are across the other side of a large field,all it takes is a brick to be thrown through the window and then you have lost your pride and joy detectors.

Usually its just young 'smack heads' looking for the next fix and have no idea of the real value of the high expense detectors,these days i try and travel as light as i can to reduce the risk of loosing anything.

Did check my insurance and i am covered,but it still does not totally cover all your bits and pieces,and with the GPZ nudging £8,500 in the UK it is wise to go to extra length to keep it from being stolen.

I bet if a 'smack head' did steal a GPZ it would be sold for peanuts for the next fix.

Hi Rick, I've had a 5000 as well, for me there is no difference - I dont need the fine gold timing.  As long as the source for the 4800 is ok, ie its reputable so youre not getting a fake then I would take the new 4800, what is the price?

 

Coils you are right only disc in DD format or the Coiltek AIs (very useful for getting under pylons).  I use the stock coil, 11" AI, 10x5 DD 18" DD, 11" mono and 18" x 12" mono.  I think the 11" stock coil is very versatile and a good starting point, but a larger coil is nice to have in special circumstance 

 

The 4800 is from one of the top dealers in the UK,its Crawfords so yes its a genuine machine,thanks for the information about the coils.

 

Almost certain it will be the 4800 as i cannot see any advantage to warrent the massive price increase that the 5K commands,especially when its only required for deep work and not ultra small nuggets.