dig4gold

Tossing your scoop discards willy nilly into the never never is a bad practice. I have always just placed mine in a careful pile beside the dig/scrape, so if what happens as is being discussed here one can go back to the "waste" pile for reevaluation if they have inadvertently "chucked" out the item that was the cause of the signal. 

12 hours ago, geof_junk said:

The problem with most business it is the $$$$Dollar$$$$ factor that comes into play. It is more profitable to reduce costs than to increases costs that the buyer has to pay than improve the product slightly. 🤑 

That's not good enough when the 6000 is already an expensive detector here in New Zealand. NZ$9k

At least the warranty still stands for those getting problems from their coils. Mine still seem ok 6 months down the track.

D4G

4 minutes ago, GhostMiner said:

This magazine says on the cover it's the first ever guide to striking it rich and contains the world's greatest miners. Wow!

Todd Hoffman did not have a good track record on the gold. But he has a good singing voice. Check out his stuff on You Tube. That is where his gold is.

Thank JP for your reply.

Since the GPX 5000 is a long way down the track from the earlier SD, GP & GPX models & these model coils also suffered from becoming noisy & touch sensitive over time, & I guess the reason is from what you have just described. Wouldn't you think Minelab would have improved & eliminated this problem internally in the coils as they became aware of it? Are the 6000 coils potentially going to suffer the same fait? 

Thanks.

D4G

Yes, the kero tin was square. I thought "your" pic of that bucket looked square as well. Although a bit beaten up.

D4G

15 minutes ago, Jonathan Porter said:

like all coils things start to wear out internally through constant use, especially things like shielding etc., internal wear is not a major issue other than elevated noise like touch sensitivity etc.

Hi JP, How do the internals, like the shielding & windings, of a coil wear when they are not exposed or come in to contact with anything due to being inside the coil housing that takes the abuse on the outside? Hence skid plates being replaceable as they wear out.

Thanks

D4G 

I use my wife's elastic hair ties. The type with the little plastic ball on them. Just a matter of looping it around the cable & shaft & the ball locks it in place. Works a treat.

I thought the lasso of the velcro on to the shaft first, then looping around the cable & shaft was obvious. Mine lost there velcro attaching ability after many coil swaps so gave up on them in favoure of the hair ties. They never let me down.

When I was a young feller my father, who was a very keen gardener, would spray his roses & fruit trees using a 4 gallon kerosene tin with the top cut out & the top lip folded over to hold the spray mix. I got the job of pumping the sprayer while he squirted what ever was being sprayed. The tin bucket looked just like that one but in much better condition. Complete with number 8 fencing wire carry handle.

I am really enjoying the journal. Thanks for the effort in putting it up. Appreciated.

D4G

I subbed to GG&T for years. Have a huge pile of them but stopped getting it a few years back. It became more advertising than articles. Adds are where the money is. Look at online stuff, like YouTube.

On 4/12/2022 at 7:30 PM, Sheppo said:

Then maybe something like a 22in Mono or DD for covering the flats.

 

I wonder how a coil of that size will feel on the 6000 shaft, strength wise & the shaft twist issue?

3 hours ago, GhostMiner said:

It means a miner that appears on a gold mining TV show. Can't name him. 

MMmmm.... Todd Hoffman springs to mind. LOL.

I wouldn't call Dave Turin a mining legend.

The 6000 isn't heavy.

On 12/14/2019 at 12:31 PM, klunker said:

I might wash up on the shores of New Zealand one of these days then I would need a scale that weighs tiny bits in grams.

Nothing wrong with a one gram bit of gold.

It is a shame that ML didn't make an 11" DD & a 14" mono for the 6000 & also a smaller elliptical coil like a 12 x 7 or a 10 x 5. The 6000 does find crazy small gold but smaller coils would allow for detecting those tight to get into spots that "we" know there will be gold. But this is getting away from the content of this thread which is about Africa.

Greg.

If you suspect there is a gold bearing reef present then the loaming method is your way of finding it.

Good luck.

Greg

My suggestion for what it may or may not be worth would be to do what the old timers did. If the depth is only 1 meter then just dig random prospect holes in what you consider the more likely spots until you hit the bedrock. Then wave a detector over the dug out spoils & scan the bed rock. No gold is easy gold & if you cant helicopter a small excavator in to do a bit of the hard graft then you will need to work up a sweat & do it by hand. Either by shovel or how about a post hole borer?

To detect to 1 meter is pretty unrealistic as has been mentioned.

Greg

Hello Norvic. No. I know of him. Don't know him personally. Have never meet him. The gold world in NZ is pretty small & he has been around a while. Always liked his posts on his adventures & finds on a few forums he used to belong to, including this one. I miss his contribution as I am sure many others do too. All he appeared to do was show a love & passion for 'getting out there' as he called it, exploring the haunts of the old-timers & finding any gold they missed. He seemed fairly well respected.

I have been around a while myself chasing gold but I aren't one to put myself out there on forums. While I have a GPZ 7000 I didn't attempt the X coils thing but was impressed with results that I saw from JW & others. Seemed to work for him on ground the Minelab 14" coil had either stopped finding him gold or just the more choices of coil sizes that X coils offered him & others to get into places the ML 14" couldn't or was too difficult to operate in. I know people go on about him "promoting" X coils because he was gifted some, & from a post I saw of his, he also purchased some. The name of this game is to increase your chances of finding gold & I am sure if X coils wasn't doing that job I am sure he & others, including yourself, wouldn't have persevered with them. So obviously they had there place & were doing there thing. I was just too nervous to do the adapter thing. We are all after that advantage in increasing our gold take as the gold is always getting harder to find & smaller. I wont go on about the fall out that occurred & JW's demise, as you will all be well aware of that, but I felt he was dealt a raw prawn & made the escape goat to clear the air. I thought forums were a place where people could share their detecting experiences & what gear they were using without other people ego's or agendas clouding it or prejudice or prosecution as long it was in the spirit of what we do & not targeting or bagging individual people.  

I have a GPX 6000 & on seeing that footage that phrunt put up of an X coil on the 6000 I am very interested. Time will tell what happens from here & it will be interesting to see what, if anything, Minelab will do about it in respect to making other coils themselves or allowing other coil makers to produce after market coils. After all X coils twisted their hand in allowing Nugget Finder to make the 12" so that wasn't all bad in the end for those wanting a smaller coil. 

I see Steve made the comment about "was I JW in disguise"? Because that thread got locked I couldn't reply on there & wasn't sure about opening another, so thank you for giving me this opportunity to answer. I have followed forums for many years but just as a lurker. We have been in a two week lockdown due to the Delta variant of covid coming into out country via NSW from your neck of the woods. We had been enjoying life as normal, with the exception of no overseas people entering, for over a year with no community cases in our country. How quickly things can change. I was bored at home during lockdown so ended up becoming a member of this forum. Whether I contribute much we will wait & see. I aren't one that is really into doing posts on my detecting but always show an interest. I am following things to do with the 6000 & as you were an X coils convert on the GPZ 7000 & now using a 6000 yourself & seeming to love it I will watch with intertest what you may find at depth with the 17" coil. Or if you go down the X coils route with the 6000 as well.  Cheers.

Greg

27 minutes ago, phrunt said:

It certainly is a very sensitive detector.

Hello Simon, Do you have a 6000? I haven't noticed any posts from you alluding to that. Or are you just basing your assumptions on what others have said or told you or you have seen on you tube? One thing I do know is that we are all different in our detecting abilities & understandings. As much as different ground conditions allow to run hot settings or not. So not all is equal for everybody. There will never be one detector or coil that will do it all. IMHO.

It appears that X coils made quite a few GPZ owners very happy. Maybe they can do the same for 6000 owners & future owners. All they are offering is more choices for those who are happy to go down the adapter route. It isn't for everybody as has been pointed out & comes down to individual choice. So if they brick their detector, as has been pointed out could & has happened, then that is the price they pay for their choice. No one else's, so I don't know why others make such a big deal about that. No one is holding a gun to their heads saying you must  go down the X coils route. It is but an individual choice.

Greg

11 hours ago, Jonathan Porter said:

Another one you ask? 🤔 Yes I let myself get conned/pleaded out of my GPX17 coil by a VERY good customer and then when the replacements came in I got conned/pretty pleased again 😢

Maybe Norvic, the good bugger, could loan you his one😂

Where are the big deep nuggets you have found with the 17"? 😉😊

10 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

If X Coil made a 6x10 for the 6000 and Minelab does not, I would be very tempted, even if it meant completely destroying an 11" mono in the process.

Steve, I think you will find the 11" coil can still be used with the made adapter. Just like I believe the ML 14 or 19 inch coil still could be once the adapter was made from what ever coil the user ended up using  to get the chip from. I noticed with all the fallout over the adapter drama for the GPZ 7000 to take X Coils that people kept on going on about the false & untrue comment that the ML coil used to get the chip from was then useless & a bin job. That just was not the case & was totally useable. I am sure people realise that now though. So your 11" is still totally useable by the sound of it too.

Greg   

Thanks. Guess that will ruffle a few feathers just like I noticed the GPZ 7000 X coil adapter did. Was only a matter of time I suppose before the Russians did this for the 6000. Will give the detecting community more options, which is a good thing isn't it?

Greg

Hi Phrunt, So is the chip cut from within an original coil & that coil then mended over with the chip being used to make an adapter in a same/similar way as the gpz 7000 X coil adapter that is then on the outside of the coil.  So the chip is going from the inside of the coil to the outside in the form of an inline coil cable adapter & able to be interchanged between ML GPX coils & X coils? I guess the adapter would be at the top end connection going into the control box? Interesting. I am picking that the 15x10 X coil is a mono.

Thank you

Greg.

Good advise Rob. It is crazy how deep you can chase a signal down among the rock piles. Sometimes never recovering it. 🙄

On 8/28/2021 at 5:55 AM, Gerry in Idaho said:

The depth of the hole was approx 8" deep, maybe 10", but it was not the 12" I had said in the video as I thought a water bottle was 12" and afterwards my tape showed it to be 8". 

Hi Gerry, Nice find & one of the better pieces at a bit of depth I have seen with the 6000. I have not seen the video but it looks like the 11" coil in your photo.

 I have seen a lot of your great finds over the years & I have noticed that your assumptions of depth are usually quite a bit off. Mostly stating the depth as being quite a bit deeper than it actually is. I am very surprised that a guy of your age & experience in doing what you do doesn't have a better eye for depth & size. How could you see an 8" water bottle as being 12"? You must deal with heaps of different size coils on almost a daily bases that the sizes must be ingrained in your subconscious.  

Waiting for a monster nugget from you at depth with the 6k & 17" coil. What are the chances? Thanks 🙂