Ethan in Adelaide

thank you fellas.😊

9 minutes ago, Deep Beeps said:

Im not going to lie... I think you do loose a bit of depth on larger gold with the NF 12, but it's worth it in added sensitivity.

Conversely, you should find plenty of smaller bits at depth than any other set-up out there (Phrunt will make a good case for X- Coils here, most likely a 15" concentric). Think about that last sentence for a minute.... That revels a lot of smaller bits in known spots that GPX's have missed over the years. Even 6K's (They just don't have the umpf to get all the small bits at depth in mineralization).

I have the 19" and, but it's an absolute battle axe to swing all day... But in the mostly flatness of WA and lack of brush, its an option if you want to look for bigger nuggets. It is also surprisingly sensitive on small bits for its size..... Theres the newer NF as well and I've met 2 guys swinging it out in the fields here in Arizona and California, one praised it, the other had buyers remorse over it. I never used it so cannot comment on it, but I will say Im considering getting it next. 

Bogene's Settings came from a guy named Bogene on the Finders Forum that used these settings on his 3500 to deal with bad EMI from thunderstorms in the area. Some have been using it ever since on their GP's to get more sensitivity at depth in bad ground. I feel that it is an awesome all around setting for the GPZ.... But thats were I hunt in the Western USA, not OZ🤷‍♂️.

Here are the Bogenes settings on the Z.

• Sensitivity at 20 (max)
• Threshold at zero or near it... 5 max.
• Volume at max.
• Semi Auto
• Audio smoothing on low or high
• High Yield
• Normal
• Locate patch as a second to last resort in noisy ground

 

You will have some chatter to listen to but the depth and sensitivity at depth is remarkable. If it's to squawky for your ground, then I would first up the audio smoothing to low... then high.... after that start backing off the sensitivity one increment at a time. But when you start getting below 17 your depth and sensitivity really start to fall off... At least where Im hunting.  If you need to go below 17 in sensitivity then I turn on the "Locate Patch" and back the smooth back down to low and try to go back up in sensitivity.

I run High Yield & Normal. I never go to General or Difficult as you loose the magic with either on the Z.... In really bad ground, like you'll most likely be in, I would keep backing off the sensitivity... I wouldn't go to General or Difficult first, but only as a last resort.

I know a lot of people in western OZ run their Z's in General, Difficult, Sensitivity around 12 and no smoothing. These are completely different approaches to the machine's architecture. In Bogene's you have it wound up and then dumb down the chatter with threshold & smoothing. Then sensitivity. Lastly, Locate Patch.... In the normal approach in OZ you start by dumbing down the machine and then try to amp it up, if that makes sense.

My 2 cents... Give it a go next time out and it pairs well with that new NF12 your going to be getting. 😉

 

buddy that's very educational. you are legend. thank you so much. due to langauge barrier and levels to understanding of my machine I cant fully understand what you mean sometimes in machine but i will read  a few times more lol

44 minutes ago, Deep Beeps said:

Gday Radalaide Ethan,

I love mine. Found more & smaller gold with it since I pulled the trigger. Maybe cause I can hunt longer as it balances way better. I also got a pair of CTX3030 batteries that are half the weight (but last half as long) to also cut weight. Lastly, started running Bogene's almost all the time. that combo is pretty awesome.

Conversely, I was just messaging Phrunt on here and he's not impressed by the sensitivity of the NF12 compared to his arsenal of X-Coils.... But to get a pigtail made and buy an X-coil here in the States is pretty darn expensive (Shipping my 19" to and back to Melbourne, tech fees for making the pigtail + the X Coil and shipping from Kazakstan make it look cheap).

Beep, do you think it will lose big nugget with 12 coil than 14?

35 minutes ago, Deep Beeps said:

Gday Radalaide Ethan,

I love mine. Found more & smaller gold with it since I pulled the trigger. Maybe cause I can hunt longer as it balances way better. I also got a pair of CTX3030 batteries that are half the weight (but last half as long) to also cut weight. Lastly, started running Bogene's almost all the time. that combo is pretty awesome.

Conversely, I was just messaging Phrunt on here and he's not impressed by the sensitivity of the NF12 compared to his arsenal of X-Coils.... But to get a pigtail made and buy an X-coil here in the States is pretty darn expensive (Shipping my 19" to and back to Melbourne, tech fees for making the pigtail + the X Coil and shipping from Kazakstan make it look cheap).

Thanks mate. So you feel like 12 is good option. I actually first time heard of bogene. I need to look at it.

Hi Fellas I am seeking for some advice. Currently I have a GPZ7000 and GPX6000 both with standard coils only.  I am planning a trip to WA or Tib in NSW either this or next year with dad, so we will use two detectors. I have seem some positive reviews on 12' coils for GPZ7000. I wonder what is your advice? With a GPX6000 would it be a good complementary to 7000 instead of spending another 1300 dollars?😳

On 6/24/2023 at 9:35 AM, blackjack said:

Thanks Ethan, we will stay in touch, I'd love to meet you and find some gold. Message me before you go, I'm from W.A. I have some contacts over there, and maybe some unfinished places I'd like to get back to. I may not be able to but you might. Looks like you had some flooding over your way, there may be some new ground to look at locally, keep us posted.

For sure Jack. Once I got ute I will give you more updates. 

On 6/22/2023 at 7:51 PM, blackjack said:

Hey Ethan, mate I'm putting it back till next year, a bit busy atm. Let us know how you go if you get there, post some pics. and a story, good luck, you can show me around next year.

 

Jack I am not sure either. I am still waiting for ute to arrive first...if eveyrthing can be sorted out before September then I maybe able to go. Next year I do plan to spend 2-3 months in WA if you interested...At least free to camp lol

On 4/6/2023 at 4:46 PM, blackjack said:

We all wish we had a backyard like this

Hi Jack have you gone to Tib yet? I am still waiting for my ute to come lol

On 4/13/2023 at 10:04 AM, PhaseTech said:

Beach detecting at sunset can also be quite relaxing

Brighton jetty lol

On 4/13/2023 at 9:42 AM, blackjack said:

Jack do you have to kayak to your destination? LOl

On 4/13/2023 at 1:48 AM, LuckyLundy said:

I ran through my photo library and remembered this day!  This Chinese Camp was just above the creek they pounded.  This day I only found one nugget, some coins and a Silver Chain.  I know nothing about the age of the chain.  Over the years the little creek and bench gave up a handful of ounces they left for us and hundreds of coins.  I’m sure to this day there is more to find!

Lundy if you have closer photos with washed up coins I might be able to read that...

1 hour ago, Nedkelly said:

Last year gumvale station and  Mt Stuart station where open to prospecting at $20 a day to camp and prospect. $15 a day to prospect only. The town common requires a permit to prospect at $30 for 1 month , no camping allowed on the common. Mt Stuart is closer to town and l found I had telstra phone service most spots if not just find a hill. Gumvale lot further out of town and really struggled to get phone reception. 

Hi Nedkelly, thank you.

Are there any places that would allow me to camp with a caravan for free if possible, or camp based on monthly and annually, not daily? I did see the website you talked about, is this the one?  (pls see pic).   If I am going there would be at least 20 days or longer with two people..

12 hours ago, Aureous said:

Ethan, your best bet is Tibooburra. Comfy place at the Van park or at the National park camp ground. Walking distance to gold at either spot. Obviously the van park is more amenable, being right in town. Fees are applicable to detect on 2 stations plus a lower fee for the town common. All the fees are payable at the roadhouse nowadays. Your GPX6000 will be the go-to detector, get yourself a 10x5 or 12x7 mono coil and crank it up to auto 1 and try 'normal' mode. Listen for whisper signals. Your 7000 will only be useful in creek beds and sandy flats where its depth advantage will be suited. The gold is generally small <1gram but good operators can often find 1-2 grams a day even on the common.

 

Tibooburra &nbsp;accom

Aureous, is the national park called Sturt national park? https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/visitor-centres/tibooburra-visitor-centre

Looks like I can buy annual tickets for it which cost less money.

Kind regards,
Ethan

36 minutes ago, Aureous said:

Ethan, your best bet is Tibooburra. Comfy place at the Van park or at the National park camp ground. Walking distance to gold at either spot. Obviously the van park is more amenable, being right in town. Fees are applicable to detect on 2 stations plus a lower fee for the town common. All the fees are payable at the roadhouse nowadays. Your GPX6000 will be the go-to detector, get yourself a 10x5 or 12x7 mono coil and crank it up to auto 1 and try 'normal' mode. Listen for whisper signals. Your 7000 will only be useful in creek beds and sandy flats where its depth advantage will be suited. The gold is generally small <1gram but good operators can often find 1-2 grams a day even on the common.

 

Tibooburra &nbsp;accom

Thank you Aureous. We will definitely think about it. Does that area have phone coverage?

1 hour ago, blackjack said:

Hey Ethan Tibooburra is where I'm planning to go, It's the nearest one for me that would have warm weather in winter, also there are a lot of options, the gold fields are spread over a wide area and most people find gold, however it's not known for having large nuggets. You may have more chance of finding SOME gold than in W.A. this may be disputed by West Australians, but I grew up in W.A. and have done a lot of prospecting there. I'm not suggesting W.A is no good, obviously, it's one of the best places on the planet, but the gold fields are spread out over a large area and without local knowledge or contacts, I believe Tibooburra is easier to find gold. As to where to go there, go to Min View put Tibooburra in the search bar, look in Add Layers go to mineral resources and then click on mineral occurrences. Change the base layer to NSW base map, bingo your own treasure map. As Dave said for a small fee you can get access to the common an area close to Tibooburra, but you can also get permission to camp and prospect on Mt.Stuart station for a daily fee, from memory its not much $/day. It's way easier than the permissions you need in W.A. also Adelaide to Tibooburra 847klm. Adelaide to Leonora 2,400klm. 

Jack, this sounds very promising to me. Maybe We can meet there this year at some point If I do go there? We ordered new ute and wont come till late June then needs to put bull bar etc...So maybe only get ready by mid July this year. And yes I will have a look tonight for the map again. 
 

Many thanks,

Ethan

16 hours ago, davsgold said:

yes Ethan, out at Tibooburra in western NSW you can pay a fee to detect and camp on the large grazing leases (farms) or you can stay at the van park in Tibooburra and may a small fee to detect on the Common, which is an area that people an go walking or riding or taking photographs etc a common area for everyone.

Or you can still stay in the van park and have all the conveniences and still pay to detect on the large grazing leases

As for the permits to detect in the "Forests" it is all a bit confusing as you need to know which ones you want to go to

cheers dave  

Dave, thanks. Is there any links of informations to those farms or van park so I can have a research onto?

Kind regards,
Ethan

13 hours ago, blackjack said:

Hey Ethan, take a look at Min View, It's what I've used and I'm old and not very 'Tech' savvy. It's got all the 'layers' you need, you'll figure it out. As Dave said Tibooburra is a good starting point for over winter and close for you, the drive from Adelaide is great. I'm planning a trip this winter, I'd love to meet up and have someone to camp with ? What detector did you end up with ? 

Hey Jack, where you plan to go this winter? Surely if we go same place I'd love to catch up with you..I haven't found my first nugget yet lol.

I end up bought a second hand GPZ7000.  What detector you using now? I have both 6000 and 7000 😊

Hi guys just wonder if anyone familiar with prospecting regulations in NSW🤭? I have been checking on gov website saying need a permit if prospect in state forest..but didn't really give much info about what the forests are??? Anyone used to prospect in forests????

Also I met a guy from gumtree told me he got some gold from tibooburra. There is no forest there..? He said only need to pay some money to petrol station to prospect...I am a bit confused.  😑

I was meant to go to WA this year but new car is still waiting till July so IDK if I can make it. If not I👽 will go to NSW. 😌

7 minutes ago, VicR said:

Yes - they could be well detected areas but  a 40e area that you pick could also been well detected.

I think the club has group trips to some their leases as well as you having permission to go there as an individual. Just a thought that it may be a good intro to West gold prospecting if you have not been there before.

I have been there once only, didnt buy section 40e so we ended up only went to blue areas....and ended up having nothing found...but still fun.. great experience.

19 minutes ago, VicR said:

Hi Ethan,

A few years back you could see their leases on their Facebook page (but not now). The club is based in Coolgardie but i can remember they had a lease in between Leonora and Laverton. Best bet is to email them at  littleripper.sec@gmail.com. for up to date information.

I have no experience with this club or have heard from anyone that has been a member - but it could be a option if you are a first timer going to the West and dont know the lay of the land.

 

Vic I hope their lease has not been worked out 🤐but Sure I will ask

18 hours ago, VicR said:

Any views on Little Ripper Gold Inc. - when you become a member you get access to the clubs leases.

Vic, there is no details saying what areas can you prospect? no maps?

18 hours ago, VicR said:

Any views on Little Ripper Gold Inc. - when you become a member you get access to the clubs leases.

Vic I will have a look of what you posting. Thank you 🤭

18 hours ago, geof_junk said:

I did that years ago, as well as above they wanted a record of gold finds and location. Doing this puts you in the good books with them for the next time.

Geof did you also share some of your finding?

13 minutes ago, Aureous said:

Its a legal waiver against personal liability. If you injure yourself, the company isn't liable. The form also identifies you, your vehicle etc 

nice, Looks like some company would let u prospect on their tenements as well. but need to ask first and they approve. 

2 minutes ago, Aureous said:

Ah, you're talking about access to leases, not the lease itself. St Barbara Mines in Leonora allows access by signing a waiver....that gives you big areas around that town. Some other company's may do similar around Laverton. Talk to Tony N Lisa at Goldtalk Leonora, they'll put you in the right direction. Cheaper than getting drunk in a pub and hearing lotsa sh*t from idiots.

Aha you are Champion.. I will email Barbara and ask. so by signing a waiver is basially like a secion 40e, isnt it?