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  1. "I don't understand the statement that the straight shaft needs a counterbalance vs. the S-shaft that doesn't."

         For me, with the S shaft, I don't feel the need for a counter balance, some folks might. I have the 6" coil in the photo but I use the 11" 95% of the time. Is it front heavy? Yes, but the way it swings for me with the S shaft, I don't bother with using the counter balance because the added weight doesn't do anything to improve the swing. With the added counter balance weight it puts a little more strain on the fingers. Lets face it, you still having to hold weight weather it be balanced or not. I just don't like making it heavier. I have an XP ORX also. It has an S shaft, it's front end heavy but nobody is adding weight to make it balance better. If it's light enough and swings well, you don't need a counter balance. 

  2.    I changed mine to an S rod. Having been a White's dealer in the past and using White's detectors for about 20 years, I had lots of White's parts laying around so that's how i went. I used the S rod from a MXT or DFX $19.50 if you buy new from White's. White's lower rods for my Nox coils $19.50 each. The Lower rods are required because the Nox rods are a little larger in diameter than the Whit'e Rod. It takes a little work but simple to do.
    The white's S rod has two spring buttons on either side of the upper end. The Nox upper rod has a single hole on the bottom. You must drill a 1/4" hole on the bottom of the White's rod to match. Remove the spring clip from the White's rod, cut off one of the buttons and reinstall so it protrudes thru the new hole you drilled. The S rod is smaller in Diameter so you need to shim it. I cut a small piece from a plastic Folgers Coffee can LID that would make 1 layer around the S rod and you need to drill a hole in the shim for the spring button to go thru. Only thing else you need to do is mount the Nox coil to a White's lower rod.
    I've been using this setup about 3 times a week for over two years and it's still rock solid. I think it swings much better as the detector doesn't try to twist at the end of each swing, and I don't thing it needs to be counter balanced like the straight shaft does. Folks buy a 3 pound detector and then add a one pound weight to hang off the back, just so it swings better. Crazy IMHO. Some photos. Last photo shows Fisher Arm cuff with Sheep Skin Cuff Muff, cool in the summer, warm in the winter. 1/2" ratchet extension for attaching large socket for counter balance (I don't use). I decided to try the counter weight idea as many folks like it. I had a hard time wanting to add weight to the detector. These pictures show the 1/2" ratchet extension and a large 16 oz socket as that's what most folks need to balance it out. With the S rod, I don't think it needs the counter weight at all.

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  3. I was one of the first in 2009 to get the V3i. Mine was actually a "Vision" model. About 2017 I thought "I should probably sell my V3i while it's still White's Top of the Line. Surely White's has got to be coming out with a new model shortly". Since then I've bought the Makro/Nokta Impact, Anfibio Multi, Multi Kruzer, Nox 800, and ORX. Still no new Top of the Line White's. Glad I kept my DFX for my BigFoot coil. 

    PS - I'm no longer waiting for anything from White's.   

  4. Steve - I found that the trick to Running the BigFoot on the V3i was to only use it in all three frequencies. Everyone's soil is different but I found that running in three freq. the pull tabs would all read much higher on the VDI scale than the Gold rings. This allowed setting up disc programs or patterns that would eliminate most of the tabs while still getting most gold rings. For some reason only the aluminum targets jumped up the VDI scale and not gold items. I did eventually sell my V3i because I found myself only using it for hunting shallow clad and jewelry occasionally and for most all my detecting I was using different detectors. I sold two BigFoot coils (my spares) but have kept one that is mounted on one of three DFX's I have. The other two DFX's are used by my son and wife but only for competition hunts using HotFoot coils. When it comes to pulling clad and Jewelry, there's nothing like a BigFoot on a White's. 

      

  5.     I've been using an Equinox 800 since they first came out. I was one of many that were really hoping that Minlab would release other coils for the Nox. I bought all three and sold the 15" shortly after buying it as it didn't do anything for me in my type of hunting in my sites. The more I used the Nox, the more impressed I became with just how well the 11" coil works. For most of my past and present detectors  I've had a whole collection of accessory coils for different situations. With my Multi Kruzer as well as most of my past Makro detectors I've had 4 or 5 extra coils for each. As much as I'd still like to see some other Nox offerings, I can honestly say that if Minelab does release any other coils for the Nox, I probably won't buy one. For an 11" coil, it does remarkably well at unmasking. Going over the same areas with the 6" afterwords seldom pulls out extra finds. Maybe one here or there but for the most part, I think the 11" does great. 

    During this Codiv-19 break, and the fact that's it's just too darn hot to detect, I've had a chance to do quite a bit more testing and the Equinox with the 11" coil can really hold it's own. My XP ORX is a hair faster, but in testing the Nox with 11" coil against quite a few other "Iron Hunters" The Nox is a real winner. Is it the coil, the detector, or both? I don't really care as long as it works.    

  6. I have both. My choice of which I'd choose would be based on where I was detecting. I can say, If I was only able to have one or the other, I go with the 9" round as the better all around coil. It's deeper, but I find I use the 5x9.5" elliptical more often. I'd break it down like this if I only had the ORX or Deus and no other detector:

    Nugget Hunting: 5x9.5"

    Ghost Towns : 5x9.5"

    Old Lots: 9" Round

    Parks: 5x9.5" for separation.

    Parks Deep: 9" Round

    Tot Lots: Either

    Having other detectors in my arsenal, I go with the 5" X 9.5" Elliptical.  The 5 x 9.5" HF coil also covers a little more ground than the 9" round.

  7.   It's call a Simplex not a Simple. The Simplex offers a lot of detector for the money but it's not the easiest detector to learn on. One thing that I don't like is the fact that it switches back too fast if you don't make an input very quickly. You have to know what you're doing and how to do it quick or you have to start back at the menu again. I think the 11" coil is too large for a beginner also. Makes pin pointing difficult for the newby. Setting the Disc is different than most detectors as it's really more of an adjustable notch without a separate discrimination adjustment.  I feel the Simplex is more a mid-level detector at a low-level price.

      As a loner, I'd look to one of the turn it on and go detectors mention above.  

  8. Jeff - Sounds like we're on the same path. Prior to the Multi Kruzer I also had the Racer, Racer 2, Impact, and Anfibio. I kept the MMK because I figured the Anfibio would bring more cash than the MMK and the MMK did everything I needed it to do. Looking back, The Racer 2 very well could have been my favorite of them all but I only used the Makro/Nokta detectors for hunting the most iron infested ghost town sites. I bought the ORX just to try it out and found that I really only need the Nox 800 and ORX for 95% of my hunting. I have the 9" round coil which I got with the ORX and I later purchased he 5x9" Elliptical coil. My MMK is actually sitting in the garage double boxed and ready to sell. I've already sold the optional battery holder, headphone adapter, and two of the five coils I had for the MMK. I'll get around to selling the MMK one of these days. 

    Of all the extra features that the Deus has over the ORX there's really only a couple of those features I would have liked to see on the ORX but in those situations, I'll be using the Nox so no big deal.

  9. Another Nox 800 and ORX user here. The Nox has all the Audio features and adjustments I need for a Flagship, all around detector and the ORX is super fast, light weight and simple to use with just enough features for me, for a backup machine. I also have the Multi Kruzer but it's been sitting since I got the ORX. Who knows? Maybe Xp will replace the Deus with another high dollar multi frequency detector and Keep the ORX as their mid-price machine.  

  10.   The Nox 800 comes with the ML80 wireless headphones and the WM08 wireless module. You can use the ML80 headphones wireless to the detector. If you have another favorite set of headphones, you can plug them into the WM08 module, and use that with the detector. The wireless ML80 headphones also have a cord you can use to plug into the WM08 if the battery was dead in the headphones. In over two years, I've never needed to use the WM08 module. I used the ML80 headphones the first year because they were comfortable, had good sound, and the rechargeable battery was very convenient. A little more than a year ago, I bought another set of Bluetooth wireless headphones that fit over the ear instead of on the ear, and i bought some wireless Earbuds. Here in Arizona, I use the earbuds 95% of the time and Use the headphones on cold days or when I go to the beach to block the sound of the waves. Because of all the additional features the 800 has over the Nox 600 and the wireless options of the 800, I think the added cost of the 800 more than makes up for the difference in price. The price difference will also be made back when you decide to sell your detector as most folks would prefer to have the 800. JMHO. 

       

  11. I bought some Avantree over the ear Headphones to use with my Nox 800. They are excellent. No noticeable lag, comfortable, and hold a charge quite awhile so I'd guess their earbuds will work very well. My earbuds for the Nox are AceKool BT-519 (on sale at Amazon for $11.99 right now). I liked them so much I bought a second pair to have as a spare, just in case. I've been using them since 2018, they also have volume control. 

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