Tom Slick

    I've been using an Equinox 800 since they first came out. I was one of many that were really hoping that Minlab would release other coils for the Nox. I bought all three and sold the 15" shortly after buying it as it didn't do anything for me in my type of hunting in my sites. The more I used the Nox, the more impressed I became with just how well the 11" coil works. For most of my past and present detectors  I've had a whole collection of accessory coils for different situations. With my Multi Kruzer as well as most of my past Makro detectors I've had 4 or 5 extra coils for each. As much as I'd still like to see some other Nox offerings, I can honestly say that if Minelab does release any other coils for the Nox, I probably won't buy one. For an 11" coil, it does remarkably well at unmasking. Going over the same areas with the 6" afterwords seldom pulls out extra finds. Maybe one here or there but for the most part, I think the 11" does great. 

During this Codiv-19 break, and the fact that's it's just too darn hot to detect, I've had a chance to do quite a bit more testing and the Equinox with the 11" coil can really hold it's own. My XP ORX is a hair faster, but in testing the Nox with 11" coil against quite a few other "Iron Hunters" The Nox is a real winner. Is it the coil, the detector, or both? I don't really care as long as it works.    

I run both coils at 31.3 Khz. I haven't used mine for nugget hunting so I haven't run them at 54 or 76 Khz. I do find that the HF coil at the frequency I run them, Seem to do very well at hitting coins on edge. Better than the Nox in Multi IMO. 

I have both. My choice of which I'd choose would be based on where I was detecting. I can say, If I was only able to have one or the other, I go with the 9" round as the better all around coil. It's deeper, but I find I use the 5x9.5" elliptical more often. I'd break it down like this if I only had the ORX or Deus and no other detector:

Nugget Hunting: 5x9.5"

Ghost Towns : 5x9.5"

Old Lots: 9" Round

Parks: 5x9.5" for separation.

Parks Deep: 9" Round

Tot Lots: Either

Having other detectors in my arsenal, I go with the 5" X 9.5" Elliptical.  The 5 x 9.5" HF coil also covers a little more ground than the 9" round.

  It's call a Simplex not a Simple. The Simplex offers a lot of detector for the money but it's not the easiest detector to learn on. One thing that I don't like is the fact that it switches back too fast if you don't make an input very quickly. You have to know what you're doing and how to do it quick or you have to start back at the menu again. I think the 11" coil is too large for a beginner also. Makes pin pointing difficult for the newby. Setting the Disc is different than most detectors as it's really more of an adjustable notch without a separate discrimination adjustment.  I feel the Simplex is more a mid-level detector at a low-level price.

  As a loner, I'd look to one of the turn it on and go detectors mention above.  

Jeff - Sounds like we're on the same path. Prior to the Multi Kruzer I also had the Racer, Racer 2, Impact, and Anfibio. I kept the MMK because I figured the Anfibio would bring more cash than the MMK and the MMK did everything I needed it to do. Looking back, The Racer 2 very well could have been my favorite of them all but I only used the Makro/Nokta detectors for hunting the most iron infested ghost town sites. I bought the ORX just to try it out and found that I really only need the Nox 800 and ORX for 95% of my hunting. I have the 9" round coil which I got with the ORX and I later purchased he 5x9" Elliptical coil. My MMK is actually sitting in the garage double boxed and ready to sell. I've already sold the optional battery holder, headphone adapter, and two of the five coils I had for the MMK. I'll get around to selling the MMK one of these days. 

Of all the extra features that the Deus has over the ORX there's really only a couple of those features I would have liked to see on the ORX but in those situations, I'll be using the Nox so no big deal.

Another Nox 800 and ORX user here. The Nox has all the Audio features and adjustments I need for a Flagship, all around detector and the ORX is super fast, light weight and simple to use with just enough features for me, for a backup machine. I also have the Multi Kruzer but it's been sitting since I got the ORX. Who knows? Maybe Xp will replace the Deus with another high dollar multi frequency detector and Keep the ORX as their mid-price machine.  

  The Nox 800 comes with the ML80 wireless headphones and the WM08 wireless module. You can use the ML80 headphones wireless to the detector. If you have another favorite set of headphones, you can plug them into the WM08 module, and use that with the detector. The wireless ML80 headphones also have a cord you can use to plug into the WM08 if the battery was dead in the headphones. In over two years, I've never needed to use the WM08 module. I used the ML80 headphones the first year because they were comfortable, had good sound, and the rechargeable battery was very convenient. A little more than a year ago, I bought another set of Bluetooth wireless headphones that fit over the ear instead of on the ear, and i bought some wireless Earbuds. Here in Arizona, I use the earbuds 95% of the time and Use the headphones on cold days or when I go to the beach to block the sound of the waves. Because of all the additional features the 800 has over the Nox 600 and the wireless options of the 800, I think the added cost of the 800 more than makes up for the difference in price. The price difference will also be made back when you decide to sell your detector as most folks would prefer to have the 800. JMHO. 

I wouldn't want to walk around with that in my shoe. Nice mixed bag of goodies!

I bought some Avantree over the ear Headphones to use with my Nox 800. They are excellent. No noticeable lag, comfortable, and hold a charge quite awhile so I'd guess their earbuds will work very well. My earbuds for the Nox are AceKool BT-519 (on sale at Amazon for $11.99 right now). I liked them so much I bought a second pair to have as a spare, just in case. I've been using them since 2018, they also have volume control. 

Absolutely beautiful coin! Still waiting for my first after 45 years detecting. 😟

FYI - Brothel tokens are what's called Fantasy Tokens. These were produced and still are produced for the souvenir trade. There are no know,  real Brothel tokens, at least not with the word Brothel stamped on them. There were some  Saloon and Dance Hall tokens that may have been used in that fashion but none with the word Brothel on it. 

5 X 8"  - Everyone knows should be the next coil produced. 😝 

I used to live in Jensen Beach and found my best 3 diamond Platinum ring at Port St. Lucie. For my beach detecting, I like a sand scoop with about a 12-14" handle with the scoop made out of 1/2"square screen with a metal cutting lip for the dry sand. Longer handles have too much leverage and get darn heavy when you hold the handle horizontal to shake the sand out. The square screen (hardware cloth) drains the sand much quicker than a scoop with drilled holes. Shorter handles mean bending over more. I've seen many folks dragging larger scoops behind them in the dry. Too heavy, expensive and clumsy IMHO. For the wet sand, My favorite is a modified trenching shovel that I weld small sides to and drill small holes in the bottom. The holes are an absolute must to break the suction from the wet sand.  For in the water you'll need a "Water" scoop with large basket, sharp cutting lip and they must be tough to take the pressure of pushing the scoop into the sand with your foot. I don't like this type scoop for the wet sand on the slope because you just about have to walk to the water to rinse the sand out of the scoop. With the shovel, only a quick twist of the wrist dumps the sand out. 

Chase, If someone asks a question, I just try to answer if I can. I don't usually tell them to go look somewhere else. My bad. 

Steve - Your graph makes it much easier for the novice to understand the differences between the two. I've been trying to explain it using words. The graph makes it much clearer.

I think Fe and F2  relate about like this: Realize that Fe only goes down to zero. I'm only showing a minus number so you can see that F2 goes four steps lower than Fe which equals better unmasking of non-ferrous targets located near ferrous items,. 

F2        Fe

0          -2.5

1          -2

2         -1.5

3         -1

4         0

5         2

6         4

7         6

8         8

This is my response from another similar question on another forum in regards to Iron Bias Fe vrs F2 :

I was on the waiting list for the Nox and received mine a little over two tears ago. Anyone that's had one for "2 1/2 years"  let alone a "dozen years on theirs" . That's quite an accomplishment on its own. 😁

I've dug a number of deeper silver dimes that I thought were quarters for sure. I always recheck my holes and have been surprised that there wasn't another dime in there. I much prefer the detector up averages the deeper targets but on a few occasions I've had deep fringe targets read lower than they should. That's just the way it is. We all wanted "deep" detectors and when it seems they had reached their limit, we all wanted  "fast" detectors for better separation and target unmasking. I think we'd all love to have a detector that is deep,  and fast, with a rock solid, non-wavering, locked on, VDI. No up averaging, no down averaging. Just a good solid repeatable number. Now that would be nice. 

I watched the Garrett Video and All I got out of it was that the Apex was light, had a rechargeable battery and it makes the other Garrett detectors old heavy technology. So I'm thinking nobody in their right mind would but an Garrett besides the Apex. I know this is the Makro/Nokta forum but I never visit any Garrett forum and I had to express myself somewhere.🤪 

Welcome, You've come to the right place. 

Another one sees the light. 

I've been closer than I wanted to be to quite a few rattle snakes that never rattled. The're probably a new type that should be called non-rattle snakes or rattleless snakes. It would be kinda nice if they would all just rattle to let us know they're there. Encounters like your's usually result in folks wearing their snake gators more often. Glad everything worked out OK for you. I was out for a couple hours this morning hunting an old wagon road outside Phoenix. Just a couple of relics, one with a Pat. Date Nov. 17, 1883. Would rather have dug a couple of nuggets. 🙂 

I found a spare brown Tesoro Arm cuff in my detecting stuff so It's back to original. 

Got a call from my Sister yesterday afternoon. "I'm at Goodwill and they have a metal detector here for $7.50. You want it?"   "Sure, what is it?"   "A Tesoro Lobo"   "You bet"   "OK, I'll bring it over later".

It has a broken arm cuff, but other than that it's really clean. Very Good to excellent condition. Not all my "Treasure Hunting" is done with a detector. Just wanted to share.

EMI - Did you try turning the Sensitivity down? Next step, return it to the Minelab service center.