My Little Bleeper

Awesome explanation, Digalicious, thank you muchly.

I’m also a simplex plus owner and wholeheartedly agree that the farty tones are very fatiguing. I'm certainly very glad that my Legend has other options, because it would have been a hard pass if it was more of that bs. I remember reading a comment/post from Sven, iirc, who, years ago when the MMK & Anfibio were newer, compared the tones to sounding like a tornado blew through a duck call factory, and remember thinking what an apt description, haha.

Please pardon my ignorance, Digalicious, but would you mind clarifying what you mean by "low-weighted"? I’m looking forward to boost mode whenever it gets here.....and the snow to piss off too, haha!

Merry Christmas and happy holidays everyone! 🎄☃️

Interesting....mine also falsed a bunch in the air, but I just assumed it was a little more sensitive to emi or something (even though my MI4 was operating normally) and thought I would test it a bit more. I never got the chance before Nokta emailed me back about my warranty issue (small yellow piece of plastic stuck under the screen) and asked me to send it back. I’m glad I warrantied mine since your accupoint experience makes me think mine had also been defective in the same way. I have the Nokta headphones but haven't paired my pinpointer yet, so I’m not sure what it sounds like going through them. I'll get back to you if I notice anything similar to what you describe when I’m out next.

"I guess my only lingering question is whether there is high variability in sensitivity unit-to-unit with the Accupoint based on the myriad of perspectives here and elsewhere on Accupoint sensitivity." I think this may be the case. I had to warranty the accupoint that came with my pro pack and, although I never checked with a ruler, I noticed the replacement seemed to be less sensitive than the original one, which isn't a bad thing honestly, as level 6 on the first one was too sensitive, so I settled on level 5.

The 35 has a ratcheting tone, similar to the Carrot, I think? Yeah, I’m not a fan of that either, mainly because the ratcheting tone doesn't give as much info as the pitch does. The pitch gets louder, faster and the actual tone pitch rises when you are closer to the object, giving you a better idea of where to start your hole. Whereas with the ratcheting tone, the closer you get to your target, the faster and louder the ratcheting, only. You don't get the extra info from the rising pitch tone sound, and for me, that's makes all the difference in the world for faster target recovery.

Nothing I have found works better than my MI-4. I have previously owned the Garrett carrot, the pulse dive and recently got the legend pro package with the Accupoint, and although the Accupoint works better than the carrot and the pulse dive, I prefer the ergonomics and button placement of the MI-4. it just feels so good in my hand and my thumb naturally rests right where the button is. Plus, the pitch sound works better than anything I've ever used to quickly locate a target. My only complaint is it's a little too quiet for my old fart ears, but aside from that, I absolutely love it and at some point here, I plan on selling my Accupoint to get another MI-4 so that my best friend who is just starting out learning to detect has a solid, reliable pinpointer.

Howdy fogrider. I used to live out west myself, actually! Hunted throughout the interior and similkameen.

I appreciate your kind words, Chase. It is a genuine pleasure to be here and learning from everyone and contributing in a small way. Looking forward to many good conversations with everyone here.

Thank you everyone for all of your replies and helping me figure out the best coil for my legend. I have much respect for everyone here, and as I said in the meet and greet forum, I appreciate so much the information and experience you all share here and I have learned and I am still learning so much from everybody! Take care of everyone and happy hunting and see you on the next post!

Ah ok, so what I hear you saying is that in the past manufacturers have made lacklustre OEM coils but that coils on the new detectors, at least for Nokta, are far superior. That's actually good to know and will save me a pretty penny as Detech coils are actually quite expensive here in Canada. I will definitely be getting the LG 24 as soon as spring comes around, I am done with Picasso'ing it up with the LG15, lol.

Somehow my reply got cut off so I’m going to try to re-do it from memory. I want to say it's like painting with a Q-tip, haha! It's indeed very small, but I can tell it will be a killer in heavy trash so I’m ok with that, but as a general use coil, I definitely need something a little larger. After resting everyone's replies, I think I’m going to have to resign myself to only the stock coils, but from what you all are saying, they are very good and AM coils are not even a necessity at this point.

That's really good to hear that the stock coils are performing well, maybe even just as well as a Detech/Coiltek would. I’m actually surprised that your experience with the Detech coil wasn't deeper, but I have never used an aftermarket coil myself and am solely relying on anecdotal experiences from others such as yourself, as well as YouTubers, etc., so I don't really know what to expect. But that's good to hear that the stock coils are on the money. Would you say that the LG24 is worth the extra $200, or do you think I should just wait to see if NEL or Detech come out with something better?

You are very correct that the SEF 8x6 would have slightly less coverage, and I’m not sure why that didn't occur to me. And, yes, I would have to agree with you regarding the challenge that MF likely presents to aftermarket coil manufacturers. I do recall seeing a post where others had shared that they had either spoken with Dilek or seen her state somewhere that Nokta would be willing to work closely with an aftermarket manufacturer to see other coils come to market but haven't heard of anything since. I believe this was back in late 2022 if my aging memory serves me correctly. The world has changed a lot in the last few years and I’m wondering if maybe that shift is translating to less options, not just for, but especially, the detecting world?

Hi Digalicious, I think the biggest advantage for me would be the shape of the coil, as it gives greater coverage and depth over the LG24, while at the same time being pretty small. I can't see myself ever using the LG30 that came with my machine, and my first time (actually only time before the ground froze solid) out with the Legend I felt that the LG15 was too small. I think a butterfly coil would be the best of both worlds in regards to depth, separation, coverage and EMI but also don't have the firsthand experience to know for sure. Do you have any experience with using any of the SEFs at all? From the limited info I've come across, almost everyone finds them a pleasure to use and a significant upgrade over the stock coils, and if there's something out there that makes the Legend even better, count me in! I haven't picked up the LG24 yet, and honestly would prefer to buy a Detech coil for my medium "in-betweener" instead of another stock. - MLB

I've searched this forum and many others high and low looking for any info I can find about aftermarket coils for the Legend and, although I found a few posts here and there where others have expressed interest, I haven't found anything concrete. My dream coil for the Legend would be an 8x6 SEF Butterfly like Detech made for some of the older machines, as many of you have stated they are far superior in every way to the stock coils. I have even emailed both Detech and Dilek to see if they would spill the beans, but so far everyone is tight/lipped surrounding this. Not sure if that's because they are in the works, or if there aren't any plans on making aftermarket coils for the Legend afterall, which, if that were to be the case, I would find very puzzling, especially since an 8x6 SEF Butterfly was made for the Garrett ACE series and many other lower-end machines. What are the chances we will see some aftermarket coils made for the Legend? And most importantly (at least to me), an 8x6 SEF Butterfly? It will be so disappointing if the Legend is overlooked in this manner, so I’m not going to give up holding out hope. - MLB

Hi all, I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi, especially after many years of reading comments and learning from all of the seasoned old timers here, I thought I'd make my own account and start interacting a bit more! I have learned a great deal from many of you, including Jeff McClendon, Phrunt, Cal Cobra, JCR, Chase Goldman, Steve Herschback, Sven1, Cipher, D. Smith, Bill S. CA, Digalicious, and many many more! All of your expertise has been invaluable to me and I’m extremely grateful for this forum and the contributors. I also wanted to mention oldkoot, but I can't seem to find him as a member here, so I must've seen him on treasurenet or somewhere else. Anyways, it's a real honor to be here and learning from everyone's experience. I recently picked up the Legend Pro pack as I've been rocking an original Simplex (Phrunt, I know you hate yours, haha) for far too long and absolutely LOVE IT! I primarily hunt in parks, which the Legend kills in, and find it to be very stable and an overall pleasure to use. I won't be hunting anymore this year, as the ground is going to be frozen here in southern Ontario for the next several months, sadly, but I’m excited as all hell to start hunting in spring when the ground thaws. Again, it's great to be here and a great big thank you to Steve H for creating this awesome place! - MLB