Gerry in Idaho

On 5/6/2024 at 8:08 AM, Quick said:

As for large Iron I do understand the labor that it takes. Tailing piles are known for holding large iron and I have dug my share of pits in them. With tailing piles I prefer a VLF detector that discriminates and also finds the porous type gold. 

 

That's a fact for certain and I agree 100% my friend.  I do the same in many ore dump piles and hydraulic pits as well. 

Glad to know you are open to a variety of detector tools for some of their capabilities, as many people seem to wear blinders.  I was one who wore such blinders and thought if I ran my big expensive PI over an area, I had no need to go back over with a VLF.  That thinking cost me some amazing missed gold at a few locations.  When in happens 1 or 2 times for a small piece of gold, it's easier to just say "he got lucky".  When it happens more than a few and those are multi ounce $5000+ pieces of gold...It most certainly catches ones attention in a sick feeling bad way.  I learned to accept change and different detector tools for the various kinds of gold out there.

Luckily for me, and even though it was costly error on my part, I learned to take the blinders off.

This "Golden Oreo" was recovered 2018 in old workings full of man-made iron with a VLF using Iron ID and VDI #'s.  I actually started hunting the site in about 20 yrs ago using GP-3000 with very little Success at gold.  Boy did I dig my share of deep iron targets.  This location was one of those that produced 1 decent find for every 5 days of hunting.  I used some of the newer PI's when the GPX series came out and did a little better, but still so much deep iron.  Then when the Equinox came out in 2018 and I learned it's ID system, I knew where I wanted to go. Those same sites have really been "Golden" for me in so many ways.

 

Doc, Glad to see you have expanded a Prospectors Nugget holder. You certainly have gone through a variety throughout the years.

Those old kangaroo scrotum sacks were ideal in the day; they just hang/dangle most everywhere and always gets the craziest looks.  On a rare occasion, the ladies would actually go up and touch them.🤣

Below was your design back in the day.

 

Then years later someone upgraded to a more handable style.  I feel sorry for the mate who had to go collect a new dozen after selling out.😆

 

Eventually you changed to the desert green golden clam.  I enjoyed it much more often and recommended to many of my customers during our group training session.  One issue was color as I actually lost one on the side of a hill one time and it had a half dozen nuggets from Sawtooth.  It took me a couple hours to find it, thank the lord.

The other issue with the common golden clams is size.  On a rare occasion, a guy enjoys a bigger golden clam to hold his trophy.  As you can see in the pics, those small ones (even though more convenient most of the time) just quite not a good fit,, especially if rigid and rough, it takes a lot work and time to get it in.  I never did get the one below to fit.

 

The yellow version clam... is quite inviting and can easily be seen from distance, but as you see in the pic, even a smooth one with a little more than average size, is a tough fit.  Eventually, I managed to work it in, though.

 

I think the old timers would probably have used something similar to this.  Not much with girth but the length is manageable to most.  Just think how many of those are out there in the field holding someone's nuggets?

 

 

One of my Field Staff, he's an expert at big and deep.  He just carries his around in his hand.

 

As I mentioned, he likes big and deep. This time, he couldn't even carry it around in his hand.

 

You know me, always a mouthful and more than many can handle.

 

On a side note, wonder how much gold this old beauty carried?

 

You disappointed me a little, Doc.  So many of your inventions has catchy names.

Well, I'm giving you the permission to call than new one "The Golden Clam, it holds a variety of sizes of most Prospectors nuggets". 

If this does not drum up some business for you my friend, not sure what will.

Happy Swinging.

 

I was so much in love with the X-Terra 705 after I started learning some of it's capabilities, it's an incredible detector and especially for the price today.

Here's a bit of Ring Information that's saved me many pull tabs.  Yes I know a select few rings read outside of my Accepted #'s, but I have to play the odds, just like I do when chasing natural gold nuggets and specimens.  Yes, a few of the folks say you have to dig it all?  I disagree tremendously.

 

22 hours ago, Quick said:

I think a detector that doesn’t see the small ferrous metal would be more to my liking than one with a discriminator. I’ve noticed with the GPX 5000 in the fine gold timing, at times will balance out rotten rusty nails and metal can pieces, seeing it as ground mineralization. Cut out the small iron so I don’t have to hear it and I’m good.

The larger iron is easy enough to dig and the non ferrous targets are small in number and at times valuable. These need to come out of the ground anyway due to the possibility of them masking gold. 

I appreciate your comments but have a couple issues with the thinking.  "I think a detector that doesn’t see the small ferrous metal would be more to my liking than one with a discriminator." That my friend is Discrimination = Iron ID.

"The larger iron is easy enough to dig".  I've attempted to dig large iron out of tailing piles in the hopes of a large chunk of gold.  After 2 or 3 feet down and an hour wasted on 1 iron target, I end up with no energy and my body is spent/drained.  Do that a few times a day and your comment "The larger iron is easy enough to dig" is tossed out the window.

I'm assuming your detecting style is much different than many of the locations I find good gold.  That's totally understandable as there are so many variations in this hobby "Gold Hunting with a Detector".  Some of my best sites that still produce gold are the ones with big deep iron and also plenty of small bits. A couple of my VLF detectors will smoke w GPX-5000 in these situations.  To be fair to a 5000.  If not much trash in the area and decent size dense gold, I'll certainly dig the occasional trash and iron, as that's "currently" still part of the game.

But what does the future hold?

Either way, it's great for discussion and gives those smarter guys than us, the desire to continue to improve what out there now.

 

17 hours ago, Chet said:

Perhaps this is one that only works well on the bench;
 

 

I'm no Engineer Chet and you certainly understand it better than I. Seeing it on a bench gets me excited as I would think all detectors start out on the bench.  Now you could be right, it only shows good results on the bench?  At least we know there are folks working on it and trying to get us "more detector options of the future".

I'm here just to help drum up some value on the proven X-705.  Many newer players in the gold game may not know of it, so I will give some Insite.  It was the hottest selling VLF general use Coin/Relic/Gold Prospecting detector at one time. It even outperformed the very popular White's MXT for a few years.  Why so?  Lighter, Faster but most importantly, a better Target Identification & Iron ID.  X-705 Gold came with the 18.75kHz coil for Prospecting.  What's amazing is if you wanted extra depth on low conductors, you could get larger coils in the same 18.75kHz.  When you wanted to hunt silver coins, change to a lower kHz coil. I sold hundreds of this model at $729.99 once folks could see what it could do.

Here's some pics of my customers/I success using the older X-Terra 70 & the newer version X-705.

Someone is going to score a heck of a detector at a killer price.

 

3 hours ago, mn90403 said:

We've landed. 

Your Manticore will be there Wednesday.  Thanks for the "along the journey" with you. 

Glad to hear and see you are enjoying the Manticore as a true VLF type gold capable detector.  I feel the same way about it and a few of my customers are also seeing the benefits.  To me the BIG 3 things that make it shine over the others.  1 - the target Identification, 2- ability to switch from Manual to Auto GB and 3- adjustable Threshold.

Your time in the videos, and writing is well earned and appreciated my friend.

I prefer Manual SENS around 7 or 8, Soil Timing NORMAL, almost always run a Threshold. Prefer no headphones, but when really windy or nearby running water, will go headphones to block out Ambiant noise.  I do see improvements to small gold with the CoilTek 10" Ellip but usually run stock 11" MONO.

I have many gold specimens and some all gold pieces that do not respond to GPX-6000 in DIFFICULT Timing.  I also have gold that NROMAL goes deeper than DIFFICULT.  At the same time, some sites have so many Hot Rocks than NORMAL is almost impossible and DIFFICULT is best.

No magic Setting gets them all.

5 hours ago, dig4gold said:

Hang on Gerry. Your question was about COMBINING VLF & PI into one detector. My comment was that Not from Minelab you won't because they would rather sell you two separate individual detectors to make more money out of you.

To the best of my knowledge a Nox 800/900 & Manticore are VLF. Nothing to do with PI. So nothing to do with combining VLF & PI. Could ML do it? Possibly very likely. If they could, why haven't they already?

Maybe now that you have thrown it out there it may stir things up. Maybe someone else will beat them to it.

D4G  

Fair enough my friend.  Hey, I like seeing open communication and expressing our thoughts/desires.  Even though I may not always agree with an occasional comment, at least we're discussing.  All is good.

2 minutes ago, dig4gold said:

Not from MInelab you won't. They would rather sell you two separate detectors. $$$

D4G

I don't buy that at all.

They provided us an Equinox 800, EQ-900 & Manticore.  All 3 detectors are known for Top selling & performing Coin/Relic detectors.  But most water/beach hunters use them over the Xcal-II 1000.  And when it comes to Gold Prospecting, the 3 detectors can outperform the Gold Only GM-1000.  So they have listened and provided us with true Multi Use VLF detectors.  Now, would be a great time to offer us a PI/VLF.

They Minelab, have done us many options and I appreciate such.  And as a greedy detectorists, I want more.  Don't we all?

15 hours ago, dig4gold said:

Thank you Gerry & Phrunt. While the 6000 has been a shambles & a frustration for many, I somehow have not had issues with mine. Touch wood. We do know who the tester were Gerry. Maybe they were just not aware of the issues at that time or ML did ignore them. JP did promote it as being highly strung & on the edge due to the nature of the beast & its heightened sensitivity & jittery nature therefore etc etc.

Glad you are not having issues with yours.  Now lets look into this a little deeper.  You are a seasoned Minelab user and if you are like most of us, you try to run your machines hot to get best results.  So the extra noise vs the extra sensitivity and depth on smaller gold was ok.  I did exactly the same and thought, well that must be how it runs and to put up with the extra noise for the better results = sounds fare.  Heck, I imagine JP also felt that way.

It was not until I started using the headphones and noticing the detector running much more smoothly and quiet did I realize an issue.  But some folks may not have caught that and so their added success was worth it?

I'm not pointing fingers at JP at all.  He did mention some of the extra noise for a new detector that is extra sensitive and that is to be expected.  I'm sure JP also mentioned it or at least asked if it could be cleaned up some.

This is very head scratching to me though. You mentioned "We do know who the tester were Gerry."  If Minelab is only using JP as the tester and nobody else, that's not wise at all.  Yes JP is tops and he can back up his words with his Success and knowledge.  But at the same time, JP is in only one guy in one region of the world.  If this multi million dollar company only had 1 Field Tester?  That my friend, just does not sound right.

Here's the bottom line.  At least they did in fact take care of it, but a little delayed (over a year). Doing so, just shows they are listening.. some.  Was it played out the right way?  Probably not to many of our end users, but at least it has been addressed and so now most of us should be happy.

Glad your unit is fine, but I also have a gut feeling, you might like it even more, if you were to have the upgrade.

I too have a few customers (long time Minelab users) and they refuse to send theirs in.  They have learned to put up with the extra noise to get the extra results.  I do know this, machines like the GM-1000, are not my cup of tea.  Too quiet, no threshold and no fine tuning capabilities.  I'll stick with the Equinox or Manticore all day long.  I also realize the GM-1000 was never intended for USA market. And I realize a % of people want simple, dummy proof, turn on and go. If that's the case, I'll sell them the GM-1000.

Options is what I like and as long as we get more options, I'm happy.

Most certainly is LITE.  The detector with the small coil is lite'er and the cost of the unit itself is lite'er on the pocket.

Actually, one of the blessing of the Axiom is how much lite'er it is when compared to the competition and then most certainly lite'er on the wallet vs those others.

Did I tell you I found more gold with the Axiom in 2022 and 2023 than I did with my GPX-6000 and GPZ-7000 combined.  I won't even mention what a couple of my Field Staff did.  Let's just say, many folks assume and wear blinders.  I realized my blinder mistake many years ago, so now I keep an open mind and let the results dictate my preference.

In no way am I saying the Axiom will always outperform my GPZ, but with the added features, it sure shines through in many applications.  Can't argue results, that's for sure.

 

That's an incredible find my friend.  I've been a big fan of using Discrimination in certain situations to find gold.  I still get heckled by the hard heads and that's fine.  They don't hunt the same locations I do and if they did, they would not find gold as often as I do.

It just goes to show, AGAIN, the Axiom has some features and capabilities the other big boys don't have.

Great for you.

48 minutes ago, dig4gold said:

Sad you got a dud & also lost 12 months of critical detecting time. Especially as your friend got one quite early as we both got one about the same time as we were communicating a bit at that time. He got 12 months on you & most likely on the ground you have been doing as well. That is my point with the "early bird gets the worm" comment in my earlier post. Also that ML honour their warranties so any issues they will sort out. From memory you were so frustrated with your dud out of the box that you bashed it & it came to life. Whether that was good or bad & that maybe you should have sent it back under warranty, you will never know. I guess by going public that you bashed it would void your warranty anyway.

I have no issues with Simon and many others showing frustration with the GPX-6000, Minelab earned it.

Why did not the original Field Testers notify Minelab of the issues?  Maybe they did and Minelab turned a cheek, we will never know.

This I know for a fact.  I complained about the issues to Minelab USA and was lied to.  I also sent an email and to this day have yet to get a reply.  Not sure if the folks at Minelab USA has any say anymore, but they did back in the 90's when I first started promoting Minelab.

Now you might call me a sour Minelab Dealer, but at the same time, I promote the heck out of their detectors and show more pics of gold success than most other dealers who sell the same product.  I love their technologies and performances.  I also appreciate the 3 year warranty as for many years it was only 2 yrs.  I don't appreciate their strategies of price points.  I say this as I have been one trying to sell their detectors for near 30 yrs.  Why not offer the same detectors at 1/2 the price (still more than the competition) and sell twice as many.  Then come out with new versions every 3 to 4 yrs (like they did back in the early days) instead of waiting 9 years (based on GPZ-7000).

Back to the next new big detector from Minelab.  It will happen and probably as Lunk mentioned (during the May 2025 Worldwide Conference.  What do I hope for?  A detector with GPZ-7000 depth on solid gold, with the lighter coils, size and ergonomics of a GPX-6000 and also have Sensitivity of specimen gold, Discrimination and Fine Tuning that the Axiom has and then price this package at $4999 US.  I would think gold could be around $2500 US an oz and we could sell twice as many detectors.

Only time will tell.

 

Garrett just informed us happy folks in USA, the proven Axiom is now available in the US in the same LITE package they have been offering in Australia.

I know this detector well as many of you seen the posts of Success picks my Field Staff/I have shared the last year.  Yes I feel it's the best priced high performance PI detector on the market in the USA at this time.  Yes it has features my GPX-6000 and GPZ-7000 do not.  If you don't think it can find small gold, sorry you are mistaken.  It's incredible at the small stuff, just ask Steve H or Lunk.

Now's your chance to get this detector for $1000 less.  Don't forget, since I am a VET myself, I offer the full 15% to those Veteran customers, as you earned it. Veterans supporting Veterans. Semper Fi.

 

Picks of Success (below) when we were testing different prototypes.

Happy Hunting.  Gerry

 

Looking back, I think Gerry's Detectors has worked with at least 10 active Detector Prospector forum members at one time or another on a variety of gold detectors.  Of you folks, who's found the most?  Boy it's hard to tell as I have seen many of you Succeed.

My Field Staff and I enjoy seeing our students accel at finding the gold.  Heck, we've even been with previous customers who outdo us on an occasion.  Passion of helping others and enjoying seeing the customers break a smile when they finally find their 1st gold.  It doesn't get any better than that.

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

???

There is actually 3 new PI's coming out from different manufactures.  I would also expect all 3 will be priced less than Minelab so there will a great cost savings during this bad economy.

Who knows what Minelab has coming out, but I assure you they are working on one.  As we have heard from the grapevine, it would not surprise me if the Worldwide Conference is when we know.  Now if Minelab waits to long and these other 3 manufacturers get things rolling sooner, then they will cut into potential Minelab sales.  Who knows, maybe that's why they are trying to clear the shelves of old technology 5000's that were once selling well in Africa.  Well, we know what happened there, that market dropped out.

Options is good and competition keeps pricing more manageable.

All you really need is 1 small nugget find to check off the list.

Be sure to take many pics, enjoy the local traditions and live life my friend.

Congratulations on your dream adventure coming together.

Getting skunked at old sites is very rare for me.  Say Rye Patch for example, I do not think I could hunt a day and not find gold.  That's how confident I am about RP and my skill level with the detectors I feel give me best chance for RP and the size of remaining gold.  Now when I go prospecting for new ground, the skunk happens more than success.  That's exactly why they call it Prospecting and not Gold Finding.

Man the terrain you guys swing is so much different than what I'm used to.  Moss, steep terrain, heavy vegetation, probably high humidity......and then the trash.  So, what does mean to seasoned veteran detectorists?   There is a really good probability of gold still being there for those who want to work for it.  With all those detractors, most folks give up to soon.

Mindset - It's most important and I am glad you mentioned that Tom.  When the mind starts wandering, the body is aching and your ears start missing those weak signals, or your Sweep gets lazy...You just missed that nugget.  It's time for a break and then a fresh start.

Thanks for sharing and sorry you got the skunk at a proven site.  It happens to the best of us on occasion and that's part of why we cherish even those little nuggets we find.

So they bring back a detector that came out in 2010 and a detector that was selling new a few years ago for under $4000 and decide to raise the price on it, but yet they are dropping the price on many other newer detectors.  One thing about Minelab is the consistent inconsistent pricing.  They wonder why dealers don't want to order in bulk...because they have no protection.

It would not surprise me to see Minelab drop the price under $3000 a few months from now.

I'll wait for the new one coming out soon or use my trusty Garrett Axiom that can find the majority of remaining gold better than a 5000 and it's cheaper.  Just my own opinion.

For those who used to have a 5000 and liked it and now want to get a new one, I guess now is your chance.  You just have to pay more.  They'll probably say, cost of inflation went up.

Good luck selling them Ron, but I would not be sitting on a bunch of them. 

What an amazing group of eager customers we had on the 3 Days Field Training.  The weather could not have been any better with temps in the 70's.  Friday was so sunny many of us ended up with red face and a few days later peeling skins from the sunburn.  Soil was still very damp and in fact some standing water in mud puddles on the way up to camp.

My Field staff/I enjoyed a variety of detectors in the class.  Gold Bug-2's, Gold Monster 1000, Equinox 800, Equinox 900, Manticores, GPX-6000's and a GPZ-7000.  1st day was mostly classroom and as soon as the students with a variety of backgrounds were able to witness the varieties of gold and how they respond to different detectors, boy did they start getting excited.  As expected, the GB-2's coils respond to the tiniest of gold best, but as soon as you went to a small picker nugget, the Monster, Equinox and Manticore took over.  Then it was seeing how the bigger 6000's & 7000 did on small, medium and large gold.  It's amazing that everyone talks the depth of a PI or GPZ but how many of you have actually seen with your own eyes, one of those detectors respond on big gold at 2 feet, 3 feet and even 4'?  Yes that's what we did one a couple big ones.  Some people had no clue and wondered out-loud, if they could even dig a hole that deep???  Realize this was just an air test, but it's still impressive.

Of the 12 customers, most found a piece of gold and a couple folks doubled down.  I know 3 of them just quite didn't get that lucky but they tried hard and there is not much we can do about that.  The good thing is they were able to find small foil and #8 bird-shots, so we know they are doing it right.  No big gold was recovered as expected, but I know there still has to be a few chunky 1/4 oz'ers out there.  I know a couple years back Arky's wife was running around with her 7 while he took the class with his 6 and she dug up an 8-gram solid chunk of Au.  So yes, there are still a few but nothing like it used to be.

A couple of the students mentioned that they had taken Ray Mills class (in CA) and was noticing such a difference.  Ray knows Geology and so most of the 1-day class is dedicated to such.  They realized this class is much more detailed on the detectors and how to get the most out of them.  How to tell ground from a true target and importance of proper coil control.  It's funny how I can toss a small nugget in front of a student and yet they can't find if, even though they just seen where it was tossed.  At the end of the class, the students can find that same nugget and then some. That's just part of the reason our class is 3 days instead of 1.  I totally agree with Mr Mills class as well and so if you desire more of the geology side, you might reach out to him.

The main road along the lake was actually the best I have seen it in years.  But those of you who know Rye Patch area (and Northern NV) know the rocks are treacherous on tires.  There were 3 flats during training, 2 flats just after class and yes one guy had 2 flats, but I took home the cake.  I had a slow leaking tire and was able to limp how, getting air at each little stop all the way to Idaho.  Luckily my truck as tire pressure sensors and I can see exactly which tire and how low.  The drivers front got down to as low as 22 pounds between air ups but still held until the next stop at Rome Station (they have a pump that uses quarters).  Anyway, when I got to Boise and took it in, they pulled the tire and showed me a tear in the face that was to big to be repaired.  To order the exact same tire and size, would take 3 days.  Well, I knew those stock tires were only P rated (most 1/2 tons are), so I decided to get something more designed for my off-road travels.  $1250 (after military discount) and I'm sporting some new heavier tires and better tread.  I should have known that from many flat tires and years past.  E rated 10 ply are some of the best for getting least flats, but they are expensive and heavy, so you lose fuel mileage as well. 

Moral of the story.  If you are running around in N Nevada roads, you better have at least LT class tires or higher.  Make sure you have at least 1 spare tire and the correct equipment to change it.  I left my compact air compressor in my big truck, so dumb me on that part.

Here's the truck with the new tread.

 

Yes those of you running around that weekend did in fact see a semi truck driving out there.  That lady has guts.

 

UT Chris took advantage of the Anniversary Promo and $500 off.  Gerry's Detectors hand delivered it to him right out there in the field.

 

Below - Geno from NV using a GPX-6000 and CoilTek 14x9" GoldHawk coil finds gold.

 

Below - Dave from UT shines a smile with his 1st NV gold using a Manticore and M8 coil.

 

Below- UT Chris found the 1st nugget of the class early Saturday morning before we even got started that day.  He scored it with a GPX-6000.

 

Below - Geoff from NV was able to find a couple with his GPX-6000, here's his 1st.

 

Below - Chris from Idaho started the class with a GB-2 but when he seen how the Identification System on the Equinox performed so much better than most other detectors, he traded up.  Good for him for trading that last day, as he still was able to find his 1st gold.

 

Below- Nancy the trucker is tough as nails.  For someone of that age to be out there roughing it and go go go, with the never quit, it finally paid off with a little help from the Staff.  She knows her Manticore can find small picker nuggets.

 

Below- Dennis from CA was an interesting guy.  His brother from Idaho took my class last year and so he knew exactly what to expect.  We was happy as heck once he got the golden monkey off his back.  He found it with his Equinox 900 and small 6" coil.  He is also the same guy who ended up with 2 flat tires.  Yes he drove a new F-150 with stock P rated tires.

 

Below - Geno gets another RP nugget.  This guy is getting the hang of it really well.

 

Below - Horny toads were just starting to come out.  We only seen one snake and it was at camp but not a rattler.  Why do they call them Horny Toads?

 

Below - Dave from UT find his 2nd nugget and it's pretty nice.  He used the Manticore with M8 coil again.  Did you catch the phrase on his shirt?

 

My 1st piece of gold in 2024.  No, it's not worth sticking in my mouth like some of my big dogs.   It took all of 45 minutes to find right near the burn barrel.  I used GPX-6000 with stock 11" coil.

 

Below - Best looking nugget of the trip was Jill and her Gold Monster 1000.

 

Again, The group of students was so enjoyable and upbeat.  Geoff/Jill brought a box of smoky quartz crystals and told everyone to take a couple for good luck.  Boy it must have helped as most folks found gold.  What's more important to my Staff/I than customers finding gold.  Customers understanding their detectors more, learning to tell the difference of a ground noise and a target, proper coil control, knowing when to ground balance and why, what machines do best on a variety of gold and most of all.... self confidence in your detector and abilities.

Thanks Eli, Lunk and Spencer for your support again.  I have already received a few emails on how happy the customers were with you guys.

Anyone else wanting to take advantage of the Anniversary Sale and save $150 off the Equinox 900 or $500 off the Manticore..call Gerry's Detectors, as I have a few remaining.  Also remember, those who purchase their detectors from me, get an additional discount of $150 off the 3 Days Field Training.  You only pay for training when you show up.

 

Happy Hunting.  Gerry in Idaho

Glad to see some of my customers enjoying hard earned Success and share their stories here on DP.  I'll let the cat out of the bag on the location as it's tough for anyone, even the best of us.  We were above the burn barrel and still on the open area.  Never left there the 3 day days.

Hopefully the June class is just as great f a group as this one and the weather was perfect.  Ground was still quite wet, but we managed.

I'll update with pics for everyone.

9 hours ago, GotAU? said:

I searched a bit but was unable to find any specific XRF analysis of Rye Patch Chevron nuggets, has anyone come across this? I’m really interested in what the mineralogy aspects are of them. Also, do these occur anywhere else in the US?

I don't have an XRF analyzer. 

I have seen some similar in a certain area in California that's very close to Reno.  Also, some Chevron pattern gold has come from Venezuela and it's spectacular as well. 

Yes it would be interesting to learn how these rare pieces of art actually form.