Gold Catcher

19 hours ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

The EQ-800 can outperform it in so many ways it's a no brainer and at the same cost $900

Gerry, in your oppinion does the EQ-800 outperform the GM/5 inch on really small gold?

17 minutes ago, DigsAlot said:

I have to differ with you on the sdc point. If the graph is correct and that is a big if, it will kill the sdc.

This will remain to be seen. The 8 in coil, combined with being water proof and newspaper size collapsing still are unique features for the SDC. I also believe that MPF and Geo-PI could have different application potentials. For small washes with shallow gold and highly mineralized soil the SDC is just an incredible machine. The 11 inch coil of 6000  is significantly bigger and will not reach where the 8 inch can squeeze in.  But since I will be owning both detectors I will see myself. Perhaps I change my mind then (although I doubt it). Something tells me I will be loving both.   🙂

1 minute ago, jasong said:

So something very different and new is happening in that coil.

I believe the extra pins are related to the 14DD coil control options via push button. I might be wrong.

I wonder what the fate of the 5000 will be once the 6000 is released. Hard to imagine what advantages the 5000 still would have to offer, other than coil options which granted could be a biggie, or the complex settings options that some may still like. For the GM, SDC, 6000 and 7000 there appears to be a sound rationale for mutual existence.

3 minutes ago, egixe4 said:

I believe this machine could be the machine that quite a lot of Aussies have been craving

Not just Aussies....!

California, Nevada, Arizona

13 minutes ago, afreakofnature said:

This is what i do with the SDC.  Fold it up and hike in, then bring the artillery back when needed.

Exactly my strategy! I have hiked with the GPZ shouldered for 10 miles in difficult terrain, but I did find gold there before with the SDC 🙂

I think the GPZ will remain king with deep gold, but perhaps the 6000/14-17 will be a valuable alternative albeit not at the same level. Still looking forward to the direct test to see how much better the GPZ will remain.

So many things to look forward too. Also on the "big" size, I am curious to see how the 6000/17 inch compares to the GPZ 14/19.

Not officially, that's right

Sorry Jasong I should not have mentioned that and I edited my comments accordingly. The price has not been determined yet. 

Price has not been determined yet.

From what I heard, supply will not be plentiful at first

Thanks. Let's turn this thread towards the 6000 which WILL come with small and large coils 🙂 Let's see how this all will be measuring up. 🙂

5 minutes ago, Gold Catcher said:

Just wondering, I have never had these issues with the SDC. It was always the tracking out that was responsible for signal disappearance. So is this an issue with ZVT?

So I am trying to answer my own question: MPF is less sensitive to signal disappearances caused by matrix disturbed small gold, hence these effects are less common on the SDC. (?)

11 minutes ago, geek4gold said:

I have on many occasions got a very faint signal with my GPZ, I too am a dig it all guy, & when I have disturbed the ground matrix & the target it has disappeared. I knew what I heard but it was gone. No amount of fluffing about with the GPZ brought it back. Break out the Gold Monster & I have found it. Tiny bit of gold. My GPZ & GM go hand in hand.

I wonder if those issues are in part contributed by the 14 in stock coil. Perhaps a smaller coil on the GPZ, like what Simon is using or even already the 12 NF would prevent this signal disappearance of happening?

I am just generally amazed what small stuff the GPZ can find despite the 14 in coil that the GM has a hard time detecting with the tiny 5 in.  I am a "dig it all" guy so I have recovered microscopic trash and gold with the GPZ, so small that I can barely see it in the scoop. Hence, I would give the GPZ a 5 star for small and large gold, but make it dependent on the user's willingness to go for small stuff with the GPZ as well.  🙂

The monster/5in is an absolute blessing in hydraulic pits with tiny shallow gold surrounded by mountains of trash. No other machine works in these conditions.

Well, for the 100g size nugget the monster still got 1 star 🤣

Following on to a previous thread, I don't think for the 0.05g size the GPZ and SDC should only get 1 star and the monster 4. This sort of general verdict is just not accurate and I have no idea why ML is putting this out. The SDC and in particular the GPZ can be super sensitive for the small gold and both can by far outperform the monster in particular in mineralized soil. I think these ratings are merely describing intended application potential rather than real machine comparisons.

Amazing hype, with me gulity as charged. Was it with the 7000 release the same?

Yes that would make sense, good point

The 11 in will reach SDC applications,especially it being a mono and  the 14/17 will be more GPZ type applications. So you got it all. Not sure what else you would need.

5 hours ago, Aureous said:

They did it with the SDC (finally)

IMO it is not necessary to have all machines always available with all coil options for plug/play. The SDC for instance is perfect with the 8 in mono, I am not following the concept of putting on bigger coils on a machine like the SDC that is made for shallow gold. I do miss the options for the GPZ, but for the new 6000  it appears the 11/14/17 coils pretty much cover what you need, with the 14DD being something very distinctive from other DD's from what we know thus far. I think ML wants to keep their coils as an integral part of their detector design/ franchise and chooses coils that they think are a the best matches for the respective machines and intended use. As I said, the 5000 being the only exception but likely being the last of it's kind. Just my view on things, perfectly fine to disagree. 🙂

Debbie is an extremely nice and highly professional person. She never tells anybody anything and does not confirm or deny any rumors unless the info is officially released. Neither should she.