Gold Catcher

Changing to manual GB is the best way but also time consuming when you then switch back to semi-auto GB (or auto if you prefer), but sometimes just avoiding to swing the coil too often over the faint target and pumping the coil a few times away from the target (but don't press the quick track button while pumping)  can often help too. Once the target response is stronger, this problem should not arise anymore. These are just my experiences on it

3 minutes ago, geek4gold said:

Many times I have got a very faint but positive stop me in my tracks signal with the GPZ. As soon as I have disturbed & moved the gold in the ground. Always very shallow so obviously a small piece. Maybe broken the gold 'halo' surrounding the small piece of gold the signal has gone. No matter how carefully I try to pick the signal up again I haven't been able to. But I knew what I heard & knew something was there.

Bring on the Gold monster & I find it. Tiny bit of gold.

G4G

You could have tracked it out. One way to mitigate that is to switch to manual ground balancing before beginning the recovery

26 minutes ago, Jonathan Porter said:

The key is none of us know what gold is actually still in the ground until ML bring something out that reveals the opportunity. The ground has secrets and ML have an uncanny ability at unlocking those secrets by developing new opportunities even when users are skeptical.

For this exact reason I am already standing in the 6000 waiting line 😁 I am eager to find out myself and learn from others where the new niche will be that is beyond reach of previous machines, including GPZ. But even without such advantage, just the fact that it is so light weight with modern technology is reason enough for greatness. 

46 minutes ago, Swegin said:

That's why I dump my scoop in my sample bag I can pan later and spend more time detecting.  I have close to 5 oz's of the fly poop that I found detecting over the years starting with the Whites V-sat.   It all adds up takes a while but gold is gold.

 

That's one way of doing it. I prefer to get to it right away, regardless of size (show me the money!). Finding gold makes my day and I don't really care about the size, although bigger is of course better.😁 But size is not a factor at all for the great feeling when seeing gold in the scoop. It also is a good training and refines my technique for recovery. I claim to be really good at it, unfortunately trained to a significant part by the recovery of tiny BB's and other microscopical metal trash.🤔

Apparently, SDC and GPZ got 1 star rating for the 0.05g size and the 6000 got 5 stars. I find this odd (as mentioned earlier). I second what Dave said. I have picked up shallow small flakes with the GPZ that the GM was not able to detect. That is the amazing fact about the GPZ, that it remains super sensitive for small nuggets as well (HY/normal/smoothing off that is). Now, recovering those tiny bits with the 14 in coil is a different story. 

49 minutes ago, HotSauce said:

Field results is all I am waiting for, otherwise why buy before the product is proven.  Especially  in the time of Covid and a bubble economy that is about to break.

IMHO, the fact that it is a high end detector paired with being lightweight is already a buying reason for me. Swinging a high performance machine all day without harness has always been a dream of mine, thus far only possible with the GM (not high end). Regarding performance, it is said that it would come close to that of the GPZ. But we shall see. But even if it would just match the SDC performance I would buy it. Weight is all for me.

I think they did, the pic is just cut off. Not sure though why the SDC only got 1 star for the 0.05g. Three stars less than the GM is just not true and may also depend on so many factors. I found so much small stuff with the SDC that barely registered on the scale.

17 minutes ago, geof_junk said:

Had a good run right up to the cans but had to stop here.

A very familiar picture! That definitely exceeds what I can tolerate. What I mean by "trashy" is more the invisible trash that you dig up. But yeah, if I have a hard time anywhere putting my detector down without my ears being blown away then it's truly hopeless. Unless you have a dozer to clean up first.

If the area is known to produce larger nuggets, then pick spots that are full of trash, like many streams here in the Motherlode. Where there is trash, there is also likely gold still remaining, since trashy area's are usually avoided by detectorists (hence still tons of trash around). However, you need to have the stomach to detect in these areas, it can literally drive you insane. However, in case you indeed dare, the average for me is probably 100 pieces of trash for one nugget, including potentially bigger ones, but only very rarely > 10g size. On the other extreme, if you wander through a gold bearing desert, like a club claim, and you absolutely get no signal, then it has already been cleaned by other detectorists and you are too late to the party. Of course, you can try to be better and catch what they haven't, with better techniques and better equipment. Just don't go where JP has gone before 😉

Apparently and from the picture above, there is a 11 in Monoloop and a 14 in DD in the box. The 17 in is optional and not included. And from the picture it appears that the DD is intended for canceling out EMI or conductive noise, but perhaps without much depth added, i.e. when compared to the 14in stock on the GPZ. The monoloop seems to be similar to the one on the SDC, with comparable applications albeit a bit bigger than the 8 in on the SDC

Thanks, JW. I never owned a GPX but I have used one of my friend on occasion, so I am aware of its excellent versatility. But I admit I only scratched the surface of what the machine can do with all the settings combinations available. And you are right, the unlimited coil options helped making this machine a legend and an icon amongst detectors in history, and this is certainly greatly missed with the newer generation of ML machines. Let's hope this will change eventually and not just via after market solutions which certainly are a good option for many.

Cheers and happy hunting!

GC

45 minutes ago, egixe4 said:

They don’t even have to work to get a sale, all profit and no work for them.

I know enough of this machine to get me interested. I already own the GM, SDC and GPZ, use all of them heavily and I can't say enough good things about all of them. The 6000 specs, from what is known,  would make a nice fit into my fleet and I am confident that this is a superb machine and suited for my additional needs. But of course, you can opt for a more cautions approach. Everybody plays this game differently, but I want it asap so I can test it. And in case I really would not like it, I would just trade it in for something else. 

Amazing how the middle east now seems to have become the early ML beacon for the world. I am sure dealers here have the same info (and potentially demo versions) but are much more careful. Kind of a double standard. We discussed this before here, but I can't help mentioning it again because it's just so striking.  It would be good to hear from ML at some point in time if all this was intended, or just leaked. And if leaked, what the consequences would be. Would be nice to be fair to the original customer base as well (Au and US). Still a significant market after all with loyal customers.

I think it has a little bit from all three, the SDC, GM and GPZ. Not so much from the traditional GPX's from what it appears. The ease of operation seems to be inspired from the GM and the SDC. Fire up and go. If the Geosense performance is really that good and differentiated, then it will be a winner despite all the automation, especially with the reduced weight. The "older" GPX product concept seems to be in stark contrast to this new simplified philosophy ML has.

16 minutes ago, davsgold said:

I sincerely hope everyone is very happy with the 12" Zsearch coils.

If I would just be able to get one...🤔

I don't think the lack of many options means the detector is less worth, as discussed here before. Rather, the underlying technology is what matters. ML said it will sit between the SDC and the GPZ. Likely around USD 6k, that's the rumor.

7 minutes ago, Jonathan Porter said:

If the adapter is faulty and blows the machine then you have no warranty (ML can also check for this)

Thanks JP. From other products I know that for after-market modifications usually a factory approved process is required that needs to be done by an authorized dealer to remain within full warranty scope. Not sure how otherwise you would judge if an adapter is made "well" or "poorly". The word of mouth that the adapter would be "well" made, by "someone", is not good enough for me (personally). But that's everybody's own call.

Let's call. They make these google voice translators that can speak.....

14 hours ago, Rob Allison said:

In my opinion, I don't recommend anyone voiding a warranty or sacrificing a $8000 metal detector if you make a mistake.

Hi Rob, can you please confirm that any warranty for the GPZ is voided in case after market modifications, such as the adapter for the X-coil, is being made that are not authorized by ML or that are not done by an authorized ML dealer? This has been my understanding all along and for sure was one of several reasons for me not to do any of this sort. My GPZ still has full warranty and It would not occur to me to jeopardize that for a 8k investment. Just wanted to make sure I am not wrong here. Thanks. (PS: PM me if you have a NF coil in store-I think I am already on your waiting list ;))

Here is what the display looks like. A bit similar to the GM.

I still plan to use the SP01 with it, so cable is needed and an appropriate wireless transmitter

1 hour ago, Chase Goldman said:

Whose list, pray tell?  

I can probably let you know by the weekend, need his ok first.  But several dealers should get it in soon (my own guess)

4 hours ago, VicR said:

Pricing is also the other big unknown.

The word is around 6k US. I will be on the preorder list next week then I will be able to tell for sure.

5 minutes ago, VicR said:

I would say that the Facebook Arabic video was not Minelab sanctioned - looks to me like a local distributor has jumped the gun

Could be his last video as a ML dealer then...

They should do a better job with coordinating video releases. Funny that the very first video is in Arabic without an English version with the whole world watching. 

Also, I don't see skid plates in the box unless they are already mounted on the coils. Hard to tell from the video.