Lunk

2 minutes ago, Gold Catcher said:

Could be invisible with smoothing on. With smoothing off in HY/N I have picked up stuff so small that you can barely see it with your eye. So, I remain curious how much better the 14dd ultimately will be on tiny gold. So much depends on the settings on how you run the GPZ and conditions.

Good point, but I have found stuff that small with audio smoothing on - nuggets down to 0.06 of a gram, and even smaller bits of iron/steel. One has to remember though that that small of gold isn’t nearly as conductive as even smaller bits of iron.

16 minutes ago, afreakofnature said:

Boy that tiny flake of a nug has to be less than 0.1g. I have found some of those with the Z but no EMI around and quiet ground.  Got a weight on your piece at all Lunk?

It sure is, Freakinator; 0.03 of a gram, to be precise.

49 minutes ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Heck Lunk,  Your post with the testing is almost good enough to be it's own post, but maybe Steve feels it's best here.

Either way, with performance like that in CANCEL Mode of all things and a DD coil is most impression.  So they are not joking when they say it will find smaller gold than a GPZ-7000. 

Also looks like the box is different coloring than what we seen from Africa. 

Thanks for taking the time for the informal testing, pictures, questions and posting for us here on Detector Prospector.  Just another reason why I enjoy having you on my team.

 

Thanks Gerry. I'm definitely looking forward to helping you train folks on Minelab's latest, exciting offering.

That’s correct, Jason, However, I did not try the Salt Cancel mode.

Looks like we should all chip in to charter a flight to Dubai, so that we can buy the African market packages. 🤪

35 minutes ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

I can confirm the US version with have 11" round MONO and 14" round DD.  I'm most certain the US is only getting 1 battery.  As I get more info that I am allowed to share, I'll keep you/DP updated.

Debbie confirmed to me today that we get one battery.

3 minutes ago, afreakofnature said:

Even though your targets were an air test. How close did you have to be to the targets to hear them?  You’re the closest thing to infield performance testing we’ve had this whole time 🤣🤣

I'm guessing it saw the flake at 2” to 3”, and the space rock at 4” to 5”. Of course, the 11” mono loop should get more depth than the 14” DD.

4 minutes ago, araratgold said:

Lunk, could the threshold tone be changed ?

Particularly important to a lot of folk who have hearing loss at various frequencies !

Cheers,

Rick

Rick, I just edited my post to include that information.

Yeah, it'd be more like sweltering in place.

4 minutes ago, jasong said:

Opposite. Bigger coils are better in mineralized ground (both for PI and the GPZ). Worse in salt (conductive) grounds.

I'm guessing something along the lines of auto adjustment of sensitivity, ground tracking, and EMI cancellation? I'm curious how static the timings are. In other words, does Normal go "a little more Normal here, a little less Normal there" as you move along too? Or is such a thing possible?

That seems to be the speculative consensus, as unwanted signals include EMI and ground noise, both localized and variable.

The big RV show is over, so it's not too bad now.

As Aureous noted above, the only thing we've seen so far regarding Geo-Sense PI is that “it rapidly suppresses unwanted signals via three overlapping feedback systems for superfast detection of even the tiniest gold pieces.” Exactly what mechanisms these feedback systems employ may never be revealed by Minelab for proprietary reasons, just like they've never revealed the exact proportions of the Multi-IQ weighted frequencies used in the Equinox. Regardless, the fact that the GeoSense PI tech will allow us to detect difficult environments once thought undetectable, as indicated below, is all I need to know about it, as it will effectively open up new ground for prospecting. Happy days are here again! 🙂

2 hours ago, tboykin said:

One thing I learned the hard way is canned fish in bear country can add substantially to the adventure factor.

And if you want real adventure, don’t even pack any food along; just go full-on Bear Grylls:

https://www.storypick.com/bear-grylls-foods/ 🤣
And as for what he drinks...I won’t even go there.🤮

I will hit the Q show tomorrow and ask Debbie, the Minelab rep, if she knows what GeoSense is. I doubt she does, but if so, will she even be allowed to talk about it yet?

1 hour ago, AussieMatt said:

Automatic switching between timings to suit ground, EMI & sensitivity? 🤔

Well of course the GM 1000 has no timings, since it's VLF - that's where the comparison diverges - but according to what we know so far, there are 4 timings on the GPX 6000: Normal, Difficult, EMI cancel and Salt cancel, all of which are manually selected via buttons on the control panel. Nothing so far has indicated automatic switching of timings. But yes, it would be cool if there were other timings being utilized behind the scenes to compensate for changes in the detecting environment as they occur, certainly. Perhaps GeoSense runs multiple timings all at once, not unlike the multi-frequency tech of the Equinox. In any case, it will be interesting to find out just what makes the GPX 6000 work its magic.

14 minutes ago, AussieMatt said:

"GPX 6000 automatically compensates for ground noise, EMI, and sensitivity within 20 seconds of turning on"

I'd assume that sums GeoSense up in a nutshell.

Since the GM 1000 does all that too, I'm assuming GeoSense involves something more. Oh, the anticipation!😀

16 hours ago, jasong said:

We still don't know what exactly GeoSense is.

And we will probably have to wait until Minelab publish a Knowledge Base Article by Bruce Candy and/or the engineers that explains what GeoSense PI is and how it works, like they did with the ZVT tech. I would imagine that there will also be a marketing diagram of some sort that will describe it without going into too much detail, like they did with the ultra-wide dynamic range 45 kHz tech of the Gold Monster 1000.

3 hours ago, PG-Prospecting said:

It’s a wildlife management area now.  No mineral removal no picking plants not metal detecting no sluicing no panning.  Basically only for hunters.   Bunch of crap really it’s my tax money and they won’t let you do anything on the dam property that now covers over 8000 acres I believe.

Yes, I also have observed that for some reason, hunters are allowed to obtain permits for their hobby on government lands, while being denied to other groups like detectorists. Other examples of this are wildlife refuge areas and military reservation lands.

Or it could simply be that the GPX 14 decals hadn't even been made yet, so a GPZ 14 decal had to be used to show the decal positioning for the photo.

Nice looking nuggets; well done!

Good job, GoldTree!

Hella good times with great friends; truly, a greater treasure cannot be found. Gerry, I'm so glad everyone could attend this memorable outing. Thanks for sharing the story and some great pics.

1 hour ago, afreakofnature said:

When I was in Q meeting up with Lunk he put together a lunch date for us with Pieter!  It was so much fun to hear his stories and he allowed me to pick his brain some too!  It was a great experience and one that I will never forget.  I “analyzed his maps in a different aspect” than how he drew them and shared with Lunk what I was seeing.  Unfortunately I never had the time to test my theories.  Lunk did you ever get a chance to check any out?

Just a couple so far, Freakman; looking good!

Nice haul, Jason!