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22 minutes ago, Ogliuga said:

Used little disc in full tones (3), program 2, iron volume 4: rusty nail over the coil and can hear the iron..

Yup! I find the Iron tones really fading out when I get to a disc of 5.

Cheers.

9 hours ago, martygene said:

shaking my head, and scratching my beard. why?? why can't we use any disc in full tones in any program? does anyone have any idea? can someone that is hooked up to XP ask for me/us? 

(off topic) things are getting weirder and weirder. I just did a buy it now on eBay and now can't pay anymore on eBay using PayPal.  I don't like the other options and don't want eBay to have any of my debit or credit card info. Bye Bye eBay...

Full tones seems to use a different scale for iron. If you want hear iron you have to lower the disc all the way down. Iron disc still works as well as iron volume. You can use disc but it is at a lower number scale. The manual only states, "Lower the discrimination to hear the ferrous items and ground with low tone in proportion to their conductivity". This is vague and maybe a translation thing? Anywho, the machine is working just fine now that I know how full tones works.

HH

4 minutes ago, Dug said:

Don’t know.  Just stated what I observe from my machine. 

If you switch to Full Tones in any program except Sensitive Full Tones and your discrimination is above -6.4, you will hear no Iron audio. Apparently, full tones requires the iron disc set as low as possible.

14 hours ago, Dug said:

Are you adjusting the descrim down to -6.8 on the other programs like the default of sensft?  If not, the iron tones aren’t audible 

 

edit..not necessarily to -6.8, but down to the small iron range. 

TNSS on another forum said to lower the Disc to -6.4 and now it is fine. Where is this stated in the manual?

I posted this on another forum about running Full Tones and getting zero Iron audio in all programs except Sensitive Full Tones. I get iron blips if I want in all the other tone modes. I'm at V.7 and running machine wide open and not a peep of Iron in full tones.

13 hours ago, shopkins1994 said:

Hi everyone,

I upgraded to v7 and when in the goldfield mode the sound for the pinpointer mode doesn't work anymore. If I watch the screen I can see the square filling in, but no sound. If I switch to something like the general mode it works. 

Any thoughts?

 

 

I found that you have to push the button twice to get the audio.

8 hours ago, Steelheader said:

I just did the. .07 update and I had to re-pair the ws6.  And I lost all my custom programs, so I have to do them all over again.  Are we going to have to go through this every time there is an update?  It is a pain in the rear if we have to do this every time.

I posted the same thing in other update threads. For me it is not that big a deal. Supposedly, 0.7 has major improvements so it's worth it.

1 hour ago, martygene said:

Are you updating the remote first and then the WS6's? I had trepidation but mine went fine...

I did RC first then the WS6.

53 minutes ago, Happa54 said:

Hello Everyone;

Has anyone experienced an 0.7 update fail yet?

I received my update download from XP yesterday.

Ran through the procedures including Gary Blackwell’s update tutorial.

I must have made at least 20-30 attempts and my remote just locks up/freezes.

I’ve gone back and forth between 2 computers and results are the same. Uninstalled & reinstalled software several times, to no avail.

The remote works fine in 0.6 so I can at least use it until I get this problem resolved.

I’ve contacted my distributor and he says he will contact XP for assistance. If there is a way we can circumvent the problem within the remote, then we may have a shot. If not, then he will send me a new remote with a return box back to him.

My distributor also stated that if XP is monitoring the forums, there is a chance they may read this and work through this issue.

I look forward to your feedback.

I lost my custom programs and the pairing with my WS6. Easy fix. I'm good to go and everything is working fine.

58 minutes ago, NCtoad said:

I did the update. First update for me as I didn’t do the .6 big number update.  A couple of things:  if you’re new to the deus update, after the download follow the icons on the screen in order.  Don’t plug into the usb port until it tells you to!  After two tries I figured that out. Lol. 
 

The other thing is that my ws6 module somehow became unpaired and I couldn’t get it to pair back up. I finally did get it paired by doing it manually through options.  
 

I haven’t actually tried the .7 update out yet but hopefully I will tomorrow.  For now both the remote and ws6 puck say v0.7.  

Please see my response up top.

3 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

 

He wants tracking GB though.  Don’t think you can get to the advanced GB settings using the WS6.

Yes that's different.

40 minutes ago, fabio said:

hi boys,the w6s headphones do not have ground balance in tracking mode, only grab?

When you GRAB it sets the GB like the RC.

44 minutes ago, ☠ Cipher said:

If you decide to be a guinea pig on this one, let us know how it’s working for you. I’m still on the original 0.6, but pretty tempted to pull the trigger on this one. 

FYI,   I updated and lost my custom programs and the pairing with my WS6. Fixed that and I'm good to go.

2 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

There were complaints about the tones, that might be it. 🙂 Gary Blackwell said something about it in his video.

So far I have seen no reason not to upgrade. 

Thank you!

16 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

I have 3/11/22. Do you have the ability to display large numbers? There is no changelog anywhere, so we don't have any idea what they fixed. Mine was assembled and updated before I picked it up, the RC, coil and WS6.

The way to get to it is options→settings→profile.

If you hold the top right button you should see a zoom screen, I think that's the fast path.

Gary Blackwell talks about it in this video:

he calls it the 0.7 release, but I think they did it in 3/11 for the USA.

Calabash did a video about the new update not losing depth like some say:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IcBFjKQtR78

HTH

I have the big numbers. I was just wondering what the 3/11 version changed. I'll re-update again to 3/11.

1 hour ago, Dug said:

From what I can tell, the 3/11/22 version addressed some issues that were reported with the 3/8/22 version. 3/8/22 was the first with the big number option.  
 

Also, when I updated to 3/11, my custom programs were retained.  

Thank you!
 

 

I have the 3/8/22 version and I noticed they have a 3/11/22 version. Anyone updated to the 3/11 version? What changes did they make?

On 4/8/2022 at 4:07 PM, Dirtshark said:

As a newbie I love the Legend. It is so easy to use even I can't do too bad. 

I think of this detector as a platform. Nokta seems very on top of fixing things and new coils are on their way. 

I will get the 9x5 for sure. This machine will shine brighter and brighter as feedback is put into the machine and the platform grows. 

and as a noob I like the idea that I got a great machine at a great price. 

Easy to use, light, flexible, I am very glad I got into this hobby with this as my first metal detector, I love it. 

 

Hell I found half a horse shoe the other day. Can't beat that!

 

I think you found an OX shoe. They are made in 2 pieces because the have cloven hooves. I find them all the time.

I'm thinking, stuck in DIVING mode. Especially when none o the buttons including POWER don't function.

On 4/2/2022 at 8:36 AM, mudwhale said:

Yes it's a wide open yard.

It was just like Monty Python's search for the Holy Grail. "Must answer me these questions three, 'ere the other side ye see"

14 hours ago, rvpopeye said:

I vaguely remember seeing that pope's funeral on TV a long time ago..

Your find may be a commemorative of that or maybe he toured the US blessing the masses and it was swag ?

Was there a ray of sunlight on the spot where it was found ? 🤔

Yes it's a wide open yard.

16 hours ago, Joe D. said:

  Did you have a taste, to see if they were still good?😂👍👍

Almost, but the color thru me off....   😂🤣

After lighting my charcoal grill, I knew I had about 20 minutes to swing the Deus II in my back yard. I have pounded every square inch of it with my Nokta Impact in every program and every frequency and with my AtMax. I always start in the same spot and the first pass is along a fence line. On the return pass I move over about 3 feet and head back to the driveway. About halfway in the return pass I got a real good signal at 84 VDI on the screen in DeepHC. I dug down a good 12" and found this medallion from Italy. It is a Pope Pius Xii Medallion made of brass. When I got it in the house it was encrusted with dirt. I gave it a quick rinse to get the dirt off. The back of the medallion came loose and out popped 2 communion wafers. I have no idea of it's age but he became pope in 1939.

On 3/28/2022 at 12:32 PM, Steve Herschbach said:

To be clear here I am talking genuine multifrequency. Not selectable frequency misleadingly labeled as multifrequency, so we are now supposed to say “simultaneous multifrequency” or SMF, to differentiate. Sorry, I’m calling BS on all that. Selectable frequency machines are still running in a single frequency. Just because you can pick the frequency is not new. Been around for decades! When I say multifrequency detector I mean multifrequency detector, a detector comparing two or more frequencies to get a desired result. I don’t need to change my thinking. Marketers need to stop calling selectable frequency machines multifrequency. It’s misleading, I’m not playing along any more, and handing out thumbs down to those that continue to do it. Machines are either single frequency or multifrequency. If you want to your your single frequency detector as being able to select frequencies, fine. But quit calling it multifrequency. Even Minelab never stooped that low, and they had single frequency detectors that allowed you to select frequencies, far before most did.

So what was the promise? Or more accurately, the hype, of multifrequency? It has been that multifrequency detects all targets, large or small, high conductor or low, all at the same time. As opposed to single frequency, where each frequency is strong in one way, but weak in another. To this day I see this said in marketing, and I constantly see users repeating it as some kind of fact.

More BS. As anyone who follows this should know by now, the underlying frequency mix still rules. Minelab calls it “weightings,” where each mix is weighted higher or lower frequency, depending on the desired end result. So we have high frequency weighting for gold prospectors, and low frequency weighting for saltwater, as the most obvious divide.

Multifrequency does have an inherent strength over single frequency. Comparing at least two diverse frequencies gives more ground and target information to the system. This, in particular, generally results in better target id capability. There also is a very real ground handling advantage on mineralized saltwater beaches.

But you can’t make multifrequency detector that runs in all frequencies at once, that will do the best on everything everywhere. If so we would not have all these different modes, Park, Field, Beach, and Gold. The end result is not much different than a selectable frequency detector. You have high frequency mixes, or medium, or low. Each serves a purpose. I still have to choose frequency modes, and it hardly matters if I am saying high single frequency for nuggets, or high frequency weighted mix for nuggets. If people were not told different, they would not actually know it is any different, except for the extra target id and ground handling capability.

So stop with the “multifrequency finds all targets across the entire range” nonsense. There is no multifrequency detector made that runs in one mode, and hits tiny gold nuggets, while also working perfectly well at the beach. That’s what we are being sold, and it’s simply not true. This is from an old post of mine about Equinox, and it’s what we really have:

Hottest (more sensitive to small targets, hot ground/rocks, and saltwater)

1. Gold Mode
2. Park Mode 2 and Field Mode 2
3. Park Mode 1 and Field Mode 1
4. Beach Mode 1
5. Beach Mode 2

Least Hot (less sensitive to small targets, hot ground/rocks, and saltwater)

Now seriously, just how different is that from a range of selectable single frequency, high to low?

What I’d to see is all this incorporated into a simple variable control. Instead of discrete modes and complicated explanations, give me a single control. Setting higher sets for progressively higher frequency mixes, setting lower goes to lower mixes. You simply set the control as high as your ground allows, which is basically they way we pick between the modes above anyway. Simplistically using my little chart above the control would have 5 - 7 levels.

I think attaching names to the modes misleads people anyway. There is no reason not to use Gold Mode to Relic hunt, or Beach Mode to hunt silver coins, but people get locked into thinking those mode names mean way more than they do, and I think some peoples detecting suffers as a result. Get rid of the names, and it frees your mind to a more open approach as to which modes work best under and given circumstance.

Steve

Great post. Fortunately for me the Deus II is both! SMF, or as they label it, FMF and it still has single selectable frequency mode.

10 hours ago, Carolina said:

I think you misread my post. He is “working” on making a set of amphibians for diving. The gray ghost series have been out for many years, even back when Gary Storm owned the company. “One” of the models is the amphibians with waterproof piezo’s “benders” not speakers. He needs to work out the connection and size of piezo used for the Deus ll. Your model has speakers not piezo’s.

Sorry, I got confused!