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On 11/2/2023 at 7:10 AM, Lunk said:

It is strange how the Extra Deep Gold Mode of the GPZ 7000 isn’t given so much as a mention in this thread, given that it is the lowest frequency option and coupled with the 19-inch coil would be the Zed's weapon for large, deep nuggets. 🤷‍♂️

Yes. Extra Deep is like General, but cuts out a lot of ground noise. Can also work very well in combination with Normal. 

I always thought the Nokta AU Gold Finder was very similar to the V/Sat. 

Yep, the difference on the 7000 is very obvious, and well documented. Love spots where I can run Normal, but they were quickly "rushed". 

Good video, but pretty expected results there.

- Smaller coils better on smaller shallow stuff

- The bigger coil did better on the largest target compared to the smaller targets. 

- Threshold ON on the 6000 is better than threshold OFF, even with a lower sensitivity

There was only 1 comparison of Difficult vs Normal on the 6000 am I correct? There wasn't a huge difference, and the coil height was being varied as he was trying to replicate sweeping over the rocks, so hard to draw any conclusions based on that. 

The biggest difference I've seen on the 6000 between difficult and normal is with the 14" DD coil, and even then it's maybe an inch or two on a 7g target. I've also seen a little difference with the 17"x13" coil,  but the ground has to be very dry for me to be able to run it. We've had some drier weather here lately, so I've got a couple spots in mind to have a look. Hoping for some 0.5 - 2g bits that might be just out of range of the 11" or 12x7", AND that haven't been picked up with the GPZ yet, which is probably the harder part haha. 

But at the end of the day, in the video, all combos got all three targets. With gold detecting it really comes down to "is it telling me to stop and investigate?". If the answer is yes, then it's a tick. 

Also work well on the GPX6000. 

Physical pots and switches are more expensive than segmented displays..... also, lifetime warranty probably wasn't the greatest idea. And zero social media presence was the final nail for Tesoro. 

Bandido II µmax is my favourite. But I do find the Vaquero tone a little more easy on the ears. 

Ethan, the 6000 and 7000 in standard form are more than capable machines. Accessory coils can add certain enhancements for a specific task, like a longer coil is going to give you more coverage, smaller coils are going to be lighter and better in thick scrub etc. Are they a must have, no. Is it good to have a selection of coils, yes. 

If I was taking my 7000 to tibooburra then I'd definitely have a 12" Z search on the end of it. Don't forget a concentric coil doesn't cover much ground per sweep, so is better used as a patch cleaner, rather than a patch finder - where ground coverage is king. 

A Multi Kruzer re-release with 9" concentric would maybe fill a feature/price point right now. Especially if the Simplex and Legend won't be getting any concentric coils. But would anyone buy it? 

Here's the tech specs:

WORKING FREQUENCY   VLF 5kHz, 13kHz, 21kHz Frequencies Selectable
AUDIO OUTPUT   15Level Speaker / Vibration / Wire, WireFree Headphones
TELESCOPIC ROD   Fast Release Cam-lock 2 Sections Straight Rods Extendable
PROTECTION   Entire Unit IP68 5Meters Waterproof. Mud-guard Control Box
HANDLE   Position Adjustable, Grenade Textured Surface
ARMREST   Flexible Armrest Cup with Kickstand and Pinpointer Attach Design
BATTERY   Built-in 4000mAh Li-Po Battery for 10~18Hrs Operating
RECHARGE PORT   Durable and Corrosion-Resist Magnetic USB System
DETECTION COIL*   10”x11” RAPTOR11 Waterproof Super Sport Coil
LED DISPLAY   2 Levels LED orange Lights for Low Light Condition
METAL ID   99 Metal I.D. Level for Target Identification
PROGRAMS*   Park / Field / Beach / Gold/ 4 Detecting Programs
GROUND BALANCE   Automatic (pump) or manually (selecting)
TARGET ID*   50 Segments Resolution Easy to Select and Mask
SETUPS*   Target ID Selection, Threshold, Tones, Tone Space, FeSen, Frequency
SALTWATER PERFORMANCE:   For Mineralized Ground or in Saltwater
GAUGE   Depth Reader, Metal ID Indication, Battery Status etc.
OPERATION TEMP RANGE   32° to 95° F (0° to 35° C)
NON-OPERATION TEMP   -4° to 113° F (-20° to 45° C)

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

I couldn't disagree more with the 17" has almost no sensitivity loss compared to the 11", I saw that one first hand with a nugget I found screaming on my 11" and JW's 17" had nothing, not a mouse fart out of it, and we were both in the same settings and doing side by side checks on this nugget before it was recovered from when it was first detected as a target.

You sure you were both in Difficult ground setting? 

20 hours ago, phrunt said:

They're micro USB, no different to any other product with the same, I advise not trying to charge them after 30 beers and plugging it in the wrong way 🙂

 

The receiver uses Micro USB for charging, but the Transmitter uses USB-C. 

Hey guys, yes the Quest WireFree gear is a paired wireless combo, either Transmitter/Receiver or Transmitter/Headphones. They will work just fine on anything you can plug it into. The standard audio cable is 6.35mm, but 3.5mm is also available for those wanting to connect to a gold monster, vanquish etc. 

So yes for the SDC, an adaptor cable is required. 

It's 2.4 ghz wireless, so can't directly pair to other (non Quest) gear. Much the same as Minelab's wireless modules, and the new headphones for Nox 700/900 and Manti. 

The mate kit with wireless receiver allows you to plug any wired headphones into it that you prefer, but if you want zero cables, then the WireFree Pro headphones basically have the receiver built in. 

I've had many GPZ7000 users over their years either lose their WM12 module, or drowned it etc and instead of buying a replacement bought the WireFree Pro headphones and have been happy with the results. 

Quest have Qualcomm Low Latency headphones that will pair directly to Equinox 600/800, Nokta Legend and GPX6000, and hopefully soon will have a standalone receiver version too. 

Provided there is minimal salt content in the ground, the 17x13" will be more successful running Normal than the 12" coil. But in difficult ground, I am finding General/Difficult to still offer excellent depth and retain a lot of sensitivity. If I get a very iffy signal, I switch to HY to check. 

On 4/24/2023 at 2:00 PM, phrunt said:

That's assuming it is bundle wound, nobody knows as for some strange reason the advertising of coils for the 6000 no longer includes winding types.  We know Coiltek as Trevor said but NF has not said, and Minelab kept it quiet too with only strick and his X-rays showing it up, so maybe if strick buys one at some point we'll find out, performance characteristics is indicating bundle wound with similar traits to the Coilteks.

You must have forgotten what I told you about the NF. That was straight from Rohan. 

I use the Nugget Finder one, but the standard duty. Not very rocky where I hunt most of the time, so a standard one will last me a long time. 

2 hours ago, Bootscrape said:

 

Did you check that dirt for any nuggets?? And yes I mean BEFORE you sat on the seat 🤣

Beach detecting at sunset can also be quite relaxing

8 hours ago, GotAU? said:

If I didn’t know where you are from, I’d swear these are Valley Oak trees in the Sierra foothills in central California’s motherload country! Some of my favorite places I’ve been!

Wow that's cool. Very typical Adelaide Hills farm land, adjacent to some pine forests. 

What I would love is a 13" round coil, built like the 12x7". I'd be happy to sacrifice some performance on fly shist, in order to gain a little depth on the slightly bigger bird poo, and hopefully one or two worthy of being called a nugget haha. 

13 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

 I never met Monte directly, but via his many posts years ago about the early Tesoro detectors and relic hunting with them in dense iron. That was always his thing and he was very expert at it, and shared that knowledge with many others.

Yes, when I think of Monte this is the first thing that comes to mind. Sorry to hear of his passing. I enjoyed watching his personal arsenal of detectors evolve over time, and his explanations of why he had certain detectors in his kit. He also knew the early Nokta Makro detector offerings very well, and I followed his commentaries on findmall closely. 

Another guru gone, may he RIP 

The 2200D was never a fine gold machine. The Gold Monster will give a clear response on very small pieces of gold the SD2200D can't signal on even rubbing the target on the coil. On solid sluggy gold, it can go deep. It had an excellent auto tracking, perfect for using DD coils in noisy ground. The negatives are the signal response was very soft, and the threshold was never super stable, both of which was improved on the GP series machines. 

If you have an opportunity to buy a GP extreme, 3000 or 3500, I'd rather have any of those over a 2200. 

Phrunt, Nugget Finder website must be undergoing some changes. 

All the Z-Search and Evolution coils are still available, including the everlasting Sadie coil which continues to sell. 

Don't forget, if the ground you are working is pretty benign, and you are using Multi, then you can leave the GB on 0 and not worry about it.