After reading and watching the video I appreciate how much you people know and share here. Seeing the E600 and E800 start out with high numbers in the FE and F2 settings made me realize why the Simplex+ drove me crazy in bottlecap land. When I did finally get used to using the E800 the hobby became much more enjoyable to me. But alas I sold both, waiting for bigger and better technology a lighter machine and a healed shoulder. Iffy is right when he said older people don't want to dig all day! Thank you for all your knowledge and experience. 

I liked the Whites -90 +90 segment scale much better than the scales of modern machines. Just seemed more was better but now I see there is no need for such a - scale.

Hate to ask, but is the charger adapter working?

The only Russian I know was a book named the Russian Milkman by Yugo Pullatitski!

Has anyone taken a tylenol and read the possible side effects? LMAO!

It's good for a company to think on their feet and move rapidly as they foresee a changing marketplace. Whites went the way of Sears. Whites by not keeping up with technology and listening to customers and Sears by not believing the internet was a viable way to sell items outside of brick and mortar. 

Weight, balance and performance is what a machine needs to excel at. I don't really need a backup detector so buying one D2 is more comfortable and cost effective than two machines that I can afford and don't have the performance of one single unit. 

Damn, I was going to design a catalytic converter to wear on your arse!

5 hours ago, calabash digger said:

5 hours ago, calabash digger said:

Well when everyone is asleep or gone the mice will play. I am headed home today snow storm coming into Smokies around lunch.

I hope you enjoyed yourself, drive safe. 

22 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

You don't use your phone on vacation? 

I thought he said he was taking a real vacation!

2 hours ago, calabash digger said:

Keep up the good work.

Thought you was on vacation?

On 12/26/2021 at 4:34 PM, phrunt said:

I've been reading the Nokta Legend and XP Deus 2 Facebook groups and it's surprising the different clientele of each detector.   The Legend has a lot of followers that are very absolute in what they say, they're adamant the Legend is the best detector available even though they've never used it.  It destroys the Equinox in performance according to them.   If anyone dare say I'd rather wait and see and explains their reason or says they think the Equinox will remain better they're quickly belittled or even have their posts deleted.  The XP groups are so different, more technical and not so protective, it's very much like the Nokta groups are the underdog attacking anyone that questions the detector and defending the detector out of insecurities that they've themselves never used.  It's rather odd.   I guess because I'm not brand loyal at all towards detectors I don't understand the way they're behaving.  I use what's best for me and that's that, I couldn't care what brand it is, where it's made or who makes it I just want which detector is best for me. 

Many of them cite the price as being a big factor behind their love of the Legend, and like to point out how expensive the Deus II is, while I understand liking cheaper products that doesn't make them better, often the contrary.  It's been a very interesting ride following the two detectors and their releases and how polar opposite the two releases have been in just about every facet.    I guess people involved in marketing are experts at influencing people towards their product and use various methods of doing so and certain people are taken in by certain marketing methods.  I have a distrust of sales people, and marketing in general, always have so I prefer to wait and see and let the general public help make my decisions preferring not to listen to marketing.  I'm not generally someone that rushes in and goes on waiting lists and prefer to let others do that and buy one of the second batch or later as we've all seen so often the first batch can be riddled with issues that are later resolved.  Nokta can't act like it doesn't happen to them either, the Simplex is a prime example of that, the wobbly lower shaft, the big batch of faulty coils...   It regularly happens with Minelab releases, I don't know enough about XP to know their initial release quality.

Seeing I'm in no rush I'll be sitting out the initial batches of both the Legend and XP Deus II, once the dust has settled and the general public have decided which is best I'll then make my move.  It's not like my current selection of detectors are under performing so I can handle the wait. 

I look forward to hearing the genuine user reports and hope to be persuaded I need either of these new detectors, at the moment it's looking like the Deus II for me although I may just stick with my trusty Equinox, it's served me well, even though it's of poor quality construction according to some to me it's been perfectly fine, I treat it bad and it's remained intact and the performance is absolutely what I love about it.  It's near my perfect detector with current technology, so the new kids on the block have to better it significantly to make them worth considering.

 

 

Sounds like politics!

Maybe the machine defaults to max sens during the noise cancellation,,,,,,IDK.

Tough decision for me. More metal detectors or more guns with no ammo!

Great for coins!

10 hours ago, phrunt said:

yep 2 year on Nokta, 3 year on Minelab and 5 year on Nox.  If Nokta were so confident in their build quality they could bang on a 5 year warranty or at least a 3 year.. put their money where their mouth is.

 

You mean 5 on the Deus.

On 11/19/2021 at 2:22 PM, Kickindirt said:

Well don't know about you guys. Ive been a big fan of the deus from day one. SO im convinced take my money!!

 

XP Deus II the perfect balance

 

Can I get a display model and use it as a weathervane? Would look cool on my roof.

3 hours ago, Momokahn said:

Nokta Makro makes their new MD known in 3 hours. Pretty excited to see what will be unveiled.  Today's unveiling will finally let me decide which NM detector to buy first.  Then second, then third, etc.  Just like my ham radio hobby.  You just can't stop at 1 radio.  😁

Be great if their new machine rolled out better than their live show!

Look at what people are asking for Tesoro's. Like they are some magical devices. Get a Simplex for less. And if you like beep and dig don't look down. 

I would like a cigar lighter and a bourbon dispenser for when I take a break from thinking about digging.

Mount the led on a a pair of glasses! 

Seems to me vibration is less sensitive to faint signals.

How about using a shrouded bright led so it can be seen in bright light?

I think it's prudent NOT to buy any detector advertised as "new" from a company that is out of business. It just doesn't make sense to do that. Tesoro's are for sale right now with a lifetime warranty LOL! Whites is dead and buried and frankly outclassed by a 300.00 machine with a warranty. Might as well buy a "long range gold finder" at this point. If you think you're getting a deal.

Been using Saran wrap for years. Crystal clear, stretches and seals nicely.

We love you here in the USA! Hopefully this will all be over soon, so be safe and detect later.

Because they would be hydrodynamic then! LOL! 😆