johnedoe

I posted the youtube vid on White's forum of the 24K field test only to have it removed by a moderator... Ho humm.......

Been gone for a while....

 Nice to see this thread still going and adding to the knowledge base of both machines.

while you were driving to the spot you passed what looked like old bucket lin dredge tailings..... Were they, and have you worked them?

Thank's

On 5/18/2018 at 12:35 PM, oldmancoyote1 said:

Pardon my ignorance.  What is loss characteristics.

It is the action that usually causes an item to be lost...

For example on the beach or at swimming holes at a lake or river the cool water causes the fingers to shrink a bit as well as the mild lubricating qualities of the water causes rings to be lost.

In a tot lot I always check the swing area... pushing the child causes a slight flipping action of the hand that will dislodge a ring.

I also found a nice mens ring in a baseball field.... What do you think caused that ...?

Anyway just some thoughts to help stimulate your imagination....

WOW.... Nice digs.

I agree Norm...

The V is really over the top when it comes to adjustability.

Every aspect of the machine can be adjusted, which also includes non hunt essential features.

I have pretty well settled into what I want and need for my hunting so not a lot of messing needed now other than minor fine tuning. 

The 800 I have to admit is gonna be a game changer for the industry .... powerful, and pretty straight forward as to adjusting .... I would go as far as saying it is a pretty good turn on and go machine..

I was impressed with what I saw while hunting with Gary.

I doubt I will buy one but .... you just never know what the future holds....

Kinda what I was thinking too.......

Got together with GaryC today for a couple hours at a local park.

We did some testing today of his E-800 and my V3i. we found a few coins and a little trash ... checked several targets with each machine and both reacted about the same on all checked targets. There was one small weird piece of trash that I had some difficulty hitting but that was about it.

Todays tests were farer conclusive as to each machines abilities but it did give us indications to each machines performance.

I have no doubt that for prospecting the 800 will outpace the V but for coin and jewelry I think they are pretty close... But like I said todays tests are far from conclusive..... Had a great time and was a pleasure to meet Gary.

Also met another fellow today that is from a little town just south of us .... He was running a White's DFX 300 with one of the SEF coils. He had to leave early.... And the way he kinda got out of there makes me think he found something good... ... Gonna have to talk to him a little later....

On a side note........ We both experienced some pretty bad intermittent EMI which normally hasn't been a problem for me but today it got both of us... Now an interesting observation was that the EMI seemed to start when The Coast Guard helicopter was near... EMI was gone when the chopper was gone, returned again when the chopper returned....

The only thing I can figure is they either had some radio gear operating or it was a result from the discharge from the rotor tips.... Just some food for thought and I am open to others ideas.

Anyway here is what I dug today.........

Your welcome Mike...

Have a good weekend...

This is the app I use.. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/coinflation-gold-silver/id535653219?mt=8 

Here is there website.... http://www.coinflation.com

The phone app has melt values for junk gold and silver.

I haven't seen any vids yet.

I do agree the 800 is far simpler to operate, and the newer processor is definetly faster.

But the V is very tunable and it will be interesting to see if anyone can get a good honest comparison test between the two.

So many vids are so unprofessional / unscientific.

ML absolutely has a winner here though.

Great job on the ring recovery.....

Welcome Don...

Lots of good people here and tons info.....

Also if you find something you want to share from another forum or a video that is relavent , you can...... Unlike some other forums that are so anal you can't even post a link to a video that might have an ad in it for other equipment...... No doubt about it this is the best forum out there.... And of course the kudos go to Steve for putting this all together for us.

Also kudos to the great members that help make this forum what it is.

3 hours ago, GaryC/Oregon Coast said:

That is amazing.  I had no clue.  I haven't hunted the beach too much but on the south jetty where the wind surfers go looks like a place to give it a try.  I've seen many lawn chairs out there on occasion.  Getting to the south jetty is the problem.  It's a long, long walk.  GaryC/Oregon Coast

I have never hunted the south jetty but I have hit all the pull outs on the way to the jetty.... Finds in those were very scarce. hit the trails from the parking to the top of the dune.

I have hunted the north jetty and found a few odds -n- ends... some change , keys , and an ear ring.

Went to Miller park for about an hour this afternoon after the sun came out.

Found a couple clad dimes and 7 or 8 zincolns.... My wife found a couple nickels and zincolns... not much  but it was nice to get out into the sun and move around a bit.

There are those that drive out there... otherwise it is almost a 1/3 of a mile walk from the parking to the beach..

Huge congrats to the finder.... What a fantastic find.......

1 hour ago, TrinityBigfoot said:

I let you know when I get my 800 (and learn it). I believe the 800 will have a edge. The V3i does have more features that can contribute to digging less junk. From what I understand about the 800 it doesn’t have the adjustments that the V3i has. This may be a good thing and it may not be. However, my initial feelings are both the machines have strengths and the better machine is determined by what you are using it for. But I’m looking forward to comparing them.

Yup , there is no doubt the 800 is more user friendly having less adjustable features but that is not a bad thing. I think that is where people have had the biggest issues with the V3i.

Also there is no doubt that the 800 appears to have a much quicker recovery time.... But as has been covered in previous posts that can be a good thing or a bad thing and With that said the V has a highly tunable recovery.

I don't do this because I think one is particularly better than the other I do this from a point of curiosity and to see if the V can mimic the 800 which with all of it's adjustments should be interesting to see. 

ML has really hit the ball out of the park with this new machine but I doubt I will be buying one. 

Happy hunting ......

Welcome Gary.... PM sent.

We will have to get together and see how the V3i and Nox compare.... I have been very curious.

Welcome FlySAR 

I am in Florence Oregon as well ....

Have you made it to cape Disappointment yet? 

You need to get yourself a beach setup so you can get some of that good beach gold they pull from Long Beach and Benson beach. not much for detecting but the fine gold is there.

If you have any questions on that feel free to get in touch and I will give you as much info as I have on the subject..... Happy diggin........ 

I am still waiting for a good test and comparison on the E-800 vs the V3i.

I know the E-800 is far simpler but ............. How do these two stack up.

First off I'm a White's guy.... Been running White's machines since the early 70's.

Now with that said if I were you I think I would go with the E-800.

From the user input I have read so far it is gonna be a tough machine to beat especially considering your other two choices.

If I were able to get out more than I do and I was looking at another machine the E-800 would be very high on a very short list.

1/4 " is still not small enough to make fine gold recovery easy or efficient.

The golden rule is... If everything in the pan is the same size, Gold rules.

Here are some vids for fine gold recovery and cleanup. This is a link to a thread I put together on another site.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/panning-gold/459664-art-gold-panning.html

On 3/13/2018 at 6:23 PM, Bryce said:

I like the Estwing pan, but I am as much trying to pan very fine gold dust. https://www.estwing.com/products/plastic-gold-pans

Garret's gravity trap riffles clog up on me. Very interested in trying Minelabs pan. Good colour, curious to how well their riffles will work.

If you are panning very fine gold it is more technique than pan.

Classify your materials and pan only small amounts.

The way things are going are you sure they are still legal?.......

A really nice job.......

My only concern would be possible heat build up in the enclosure.

1 hour ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Amazing find that certainly brought enthusiasm into the camp.  How exhilarating it must have been when you scrolled through the TIMINGS on the ZED and realize you're about to unearth something magnificent, extremely rare and deep.

Time to break out the grid chains and start all over.

Hopefully you have it cleaned out soon, we have that 3 Day Field Training class coming up next month and I know some folks will want to see it, touch it and most certainly we'll let the customers hear it with their detectors.

Now you can afford to purchase some of them new snake boots to protect the ankles.

Looking forward to seeing you soon Amigo.

Them shore is purdy..............