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Awesome finds......keep it going! 

13 hours ago, TTT2866 said:

was more than pleasantly surprised to hear that it was testing between 17 and 19ct gold!! Wow what a relief.

BOOM>>>>>>>>Awesome!!!!  

34 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

I agree with you man, but it probably has as much to do with your proficiency as a detectorist which you undoubtedly have, your persistence and knowledge of your hunting spots. 👍

Yes, partly. But you still have to have the detector set correctly. [tougher with the D2]  I have no doubt that your land programs react totally different than on this salt beach. 
The Equinox is just killer in salt on Beach 2, 1 tone,  Horseshoe mode on.  

The D2 no doubt could have found this in my older program, But currently running a full tones program with magnetic reject I have my doubts. I had the D2 out yesterday to a different beach that is target laden and I found very few small bits. Which has been the norm over the last month. [we will talk about those beach modes when you're ready!!!] Keep me posted when you go. 😎

2 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

I will probably take Beach Tekkna for a spin as soon as it comes out.

Keep me posted.....I can share some new settings with you I have been using. 

On 3/21/2024 at 9:12 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

That’s nice but target id stability is directly related to mode choice and sensitivity setting. Going for max depth will in most cases cause target id instability.

Not entirely true in my beach hunting experience and depends on detector. But if someone thinks they can hunt at max sensitivity all the time they would be incorrect.

I will give two examples of different machines. I also have unique insight as I routinely look at fringe targets with more sensitivity in mineralized black sand.  
Equinox, Horseshoe on I can hunt it in 21-22 sens, without driving me nuts. When I look at a fringe targets and go to 23-24 sens there is rarely a target that does not ID better. Be it ferrous or nonferrous.  

Deus 2 hunting 91-93 sens. without driving me nuts. Get a fringe target and go to 94-95 sens and iron will almost always wrap-around more and give stronger nonferrous ID's
Maybe 50% of the nonferrous targets has an increase in sound quality and 50%-ish will hold a better ID. 

But there is no way possible to hunt the Equinox in 23-24 Sens, full time, as well for the Deus 2 at 94-95 sens. 

HH Dave

5 hours ago, Heavy Metal said:

Thank you guysfor quick answers.. I see that Coiltek 10x5  would be the best thing to choose 🙂

 

Altough, i would need some time to get use to the different shape of coil 🙂

No learning curve. Should be easy. 

When the wave conditions are right, soft waves and sand can bring lighter targets in.  I could have 100 14's banging my ears. On those days, I skip 14's.

27 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

So you're saying rings never ID as Tabs on the Equinox? 

No, Rings of course can ID at 14. 

27 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

That is, you can confidently skip whatever ID is associated with a tab on the Nox simply because its repeatable?

Yes, 95% of my tabs come in at 14. I get a few 13's and 12's. 

Like today, my conditions did not warrant skipping tabs. I dug 1 a solid 14. However, when the wave conditions are right I could have 100 14's banging my ears. On those days, I skip 14's.

Now opposed to the D2 

Inconsistent pull-tab numbers that range from 48-64. With almost no back-to-back repeat numbers. Drives me insane and makes it impossible to have ANY comfort zone on skipping tabs. 🙄

5 hours ago, Redneck said:

Give me an expanded meter anytime.   Thats one major thing i did not like about the eq 800. 

The only machine I have experience on is the D2 with 100 scale. I HATE it. Throws gold and pull tabs all over the place. My Equinox makes calling tabs 100% easier. Almost impossible to skip any tabs with the D2. 

Outstanding!!!!!  You have a great spot! 

3 hours ago, mn90403 said:

It did show the battery was down much lower than it should have been

Possible you need a battery replacement. 

2 hours ago, NCtoad said:

f you’re at all on the fence about getting this coil just do it!

Pretty sure I am out on the beach tomorrow with the 13".   The coverage is awesome and the ability to punch Black Sand is good. 😎

10 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

The notes that were cut off:

Is there an easy example?  Why would this be something more effective? 

Very classy finds!!  Good work. 

15 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

Dave - how high up the scale did the Tarsacci throw those coins?  I ask because there is a way you can adjust Disc on the Tarsacci that covers the whole ferrous range and notches out 3 or 4 points of the high wraparound region (e.g., if you set Disc to 28, then all negative (ferrous) ID'S are disc'd and also 26 to 30 (Max ID on the Scale).  Just wondering if you used that feature, but still found it to be ineffective.

Ugh, memory.   I think the wrap-around number was 24-26 depending on coin condition.  I did not use any Disc. [I think]  What was more disheartening was the frequency. Anything over 9kHz had to be throttled way back due to the Black Sand here. Depth performance was affected. 

My friend was here running the MDT. I just pulled a gold chain with the Equinox. The MDT could not even hear the chain laying on the surface.  That did it for me. 

2 hours ago, JCR said:

What was your opinion of it’s capabilities there.

I liked it......But could not get past the iron-wrap around. Here in Mexico there are bi-metal coins and the Tarsacci would throw those into the positive end of discrimination. 

Also, while it handled Black sand good. I could not hunt past 9kHz in Black Sand. I thought this was a handicap for gold. 

If not for the Iron-wraparound on these particular coins. Might have kept it.    

7 hours ago, JCR said:

Has anyone who knows the Tarsacci MDT 8000 ever run one on your sites?

I owned a Tarsacci for about a year and a half. 

3 hours ago, JCR said:

I will have to go back and re read this whole topic, but have you given thought to trying the Manticore?

We have had the Manticore here and my friend was supposed to be here but has been busy. Last year it had done well but the black sand conditions were better, with any luck it will be here in three weeks. 

10 hours ago, JCR said:

Glad you are making some advances in setting up for your tough site conditions. Do you think the tracking GB was helping on the wave wash at the expense of hurting on the Black sand?

My conditions change a little.  At no point this season has the D2 been great with recovery in the moving water. There was a short window where the 13" coil seemed to work [a little] in the wave wash. But it got rough again and the Black sand has increased lately. My general feeling right now is there does not seem to be an advantage in Tracking or Manual GB in the wave wash.  My manual GB numbers have ranged from 82-87.  I did experiment one day with going to a Dive program for recovery but that did not seem to solve much. Going to set-up a custom dive program to see if I can get recoveries made in the wave wash. 

10 hours ago, JCR said:

Your in a hard fight with BS on one side & salt conductivity& small gold on the other.   Interesting that the smaller coils reactivity in slower than the larger coil.

Not very comfortable with the 9" coil on the beach. It feels like I am out there with a teaspoon.  When the reactivity is above .5 the coil really shortens up audio response and swing speed becomes an issue.
I keep the reactivity low, so I get a broader response on targets, and I can maintain a decent swing speed. 
I have to do more testing with magnetic accept and reject. For almost two years I ran magnetic accept. Now with this new program on magnetic reject my fear is the machine is not responsive to small targets.  Both the Equinox and D2 would come home with their fair share of small bits. But now, the D2 rarely finds any. Two days ago, I had a smaller target that in my opinion should have had a much better response. 

4 hours ago, Dan(NM) said:

Can anyone confirm whether or not the warranty is transferable, thanks.

Yes. I bought a second hand D2 that needed a pod replacement.
No issues with the original receipt. 

On 2/26/2024 at 8:04 PM, Medina said:

So I cranked it up to 29, did the cancel thing, different number entirely than the previous attempts, turned it back DOWN to 20, and had joy. Totally settled it down for the duration 

Many Equinox users cranked up the sensitivity and noise cancelled. The goal was to try to force the machine to make the best choice. 

On 2/7/2024 at 11:46 AM, Bill (S. CA) said:

is to find settings that work for you and you are kind enough to share your results.  Gee, interesting concept, you know?  

So here it goes. Lots to unpack. [again]  Been testing for weeks. 

Settings Beach Sensitive 40KHZ max
Disc 6.8
Sensitivity 90-94
Salt sense 7
Iron vol 6
Reactivity 9"coil .5 13" coil 1.5-2
Audio resp. 6
Manual GB
FULL TONES offset 8
Bottle caps 2
Magnetic reject. 

The good:
Nonferrous targets clean-up better at depth and sound less clipped. 
The chatty noise level of the machine reduced/muted. 
Less iron wrap-around [much less] 
The Bad: 
Complete loss of detection with wave wash moving over coil.
Loss and difficulty of small target detection.
Lots of ground balancing required. 

I felt this mode of Full tones has really made some difference in making targets at depth sound better. I also credit manual GB for some of this as well. Testing showed tracking GB did make targets at depth sound a bit clippie. But is really the two put together, full tones and manual GB. 

While Magnetic reject helps some with Black Sand chatter, I fear it is a small item and maybe even chain killer. In trials for weeks this D2 package is nowhere near as sensitive as my Equinox on small targets.  I do not have a gold chain to test but have tested a few small bits.  

Full tones> Full tones gets the most credit for better sounding targets at depth. I feel using the offset is mandatory. The offset is what really makes the difference in the ability to tell the difference of Black sand ticks and deeper non-ferrous hits. 

Sensitivity, one of the issues I see with the D2. Increasing the sensitivity to look at one target can be difficult. The D2 has a tendency to enhance both iron wrap-around and deep nonferrous.  Whereas more sensitivity with the Equinox enhances deep nonferrous and will help ferrous break down more. 

With the complete inability to remove a target in the wave wash with the D2, I am heading back to the Equinox again and hope for my Black Sand conditions to lift some. Going to try hunting more in the wet sand with Black sand accept and see if this will result in better sounding small targets. Then switch to Reject with water contact.  Thank to Jeff for pushing me to try manual GB. Even though it is an entire PIA and time consuming.  
 

9 hours ago, Digalicious said:

That's interesting. I haven't used a D2, but I've never seen or experienced a detector that didn't eventually ID a nonferrous target as ferrous, once it reached its detection limit.

Exactly

Both my equinox and D2 will identify a nonferrous target as ferrous. All I hunt is salt with high mineralization and this is an everyday occurrence. 

7 hours ago, Skate said:

XP D2- high maintenance. If she were a woman you would eventually get tired of all the effort it takes to just go out and you would look for something without all the noise.

SPOT ON............!