Sinclair

Another ~4 weeks with the nox and some more or less awesome evenigs on the beaches..

I've met more detectorists in two month as in two whole years .. I guess that's the way it is

Found my first dime and ~17€ today :

Counting up the clad:

~182€ / 214$ by now

No high hopes for the season, but we'll see. I'll have a week off detecing now

On 5/27/2018 at 5:51 AM, “Spartan800” said:

I just wish the Velcro straps were stiffer too

Yep, it wiggles on my hunting belt like crazy... That's why I’ve cable strapped it  down:

Holds up fine so far

I am with you there, Steve. Things like IDs are probably not going to be changed, I am ok with that. But the Userprofile thing has to be addressed, because the product doesn't work as advertised. Imho they should be fast on that one after the delivery disaster ..

6 hours ago, phrunt said:

My understanding from a programming perspective is there is little point for an update so far, there are no reported software bugs

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Sure there are some. For me the most annoying is the Userprofile - f.e.:

There are some other glitches with the Userprofile, which practically render that function unusable for me.

I am only detecting the beaches for two years now, but I also experience what you do.. less money on each hunt. Two weeks ago there were 6 detectorists on the same beach at the same time.. not much left over. I think I found ~120€ since having the nox. Not too bad, still no swimming season.. but I‘ve been out almost 5/7 days - how ever, it still makes fun ?

3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Yup, what Terry said. If two people listen to 100 targets, they will differ as to how much stuff they dig as being “good targets” and “bad targets”. In other words, what one person may decide is a trash target may be good enough sounding to dig to the other person. We vary in how aggressively we reject trash, which goes hand in hand with potentially missing good items.

Then add the fact that the local trash mix varies tremendously and how much it interferes with your detecting depends on the targets you hunt and how much local trash reads the same.

This leads to situations where one person says “this works for me” and another says “it does not work for me”. It’s not a matter of making things up or anything, and no reason for anyone to take offense or argue. So whether it worked for Sinclair or not I will just say thanks staffydog33 for sharing your advice. Even if it does not help Sinclair it may help someone else, and helping others is a large reason for this forums existence.

100% true

For me it already paid off to dig them - been on the same small beach as 4 days before and it was noticeably easier to recover some fresh coins - 10,50€ in 2h - I've done worse

7 hours ago, staffydog33 said:

It's super easy to get rid of the bottlecaps.

Matt - I don't want to offend you, but: That's just not true. I repeat myself.. There are bottlecaps with solid IDs which are not easy distinguishable - not all of them, but more then enough, trust me.

I don't know where you're from, maybe they are made slightly different all over the globe.

However, for various reasons which I've already explained, I'll just dig them if I'm not sure ... simple

On 5/20/2018 at 12:13 PM, phrunt said:

I see your bottle caps pictures and feel sorry for you, not because you get so many bottle caps, but because people around where you live throw so many bottle caps on the ground! I absolutely hate people throwing rubbish and don't understand why they would do it.  I'm glad your Nox journey has improved, I really enjoy using my Nox.

I pick rubbish up off the ground some clown has dropped and put in in the bin no more than five steps away from a rubbish bin, why people drop it on the ground right near a rubbish disposal spot I will never understand. 

I am thinking the same every time I am on the beach. Some of the stuff get's lost accidentally, just like the money and other good stuff we find. On the other hand, some people leave their trash intentionally, thinking someones gonna remove it for them..

On 5/20/2018 at 12:13 PM, phrunt said:

You've taken some really nice photos of your beaches, they look so beautiful if I didn't know they were trashed filled ?

They are not all that bad - there are some certain spots, which are extreme - especially those, where the younger generation tends to party.. at least they are much cleaner now ?

In fact I often think, what a privilege it is to be able to reach such nice locations within a 10-30min drive.

Yesterday I didn't find much, but a musket ball in the wet sand:

A fellow detectorist found a 8k goldring 10m in front of me - what a bummer ? But who knows if I would have found it, so no need to be jealous.

On 5/19/2018 at 3:02 AM, bado1 said:

Nice! Seems like you and the Nox are really gelling well now.

Thank you!

I think I've never done terribly bad, but after 100+ hours I don't consider me noob on this machine anymore

For me it shines on old stuff, iron infested sites and silent beaches. It isn't very usable on modern-trash infested beaches imho.

Been on one of my other beaches yesterday:

Fresh modern coins only - it really depends on your sites.. I think the old stuff is out now.. that construction site has been an great alternation for me.

Dude, what a sick hunt today!

Visited the construction site on the beach again and found some old stuff:

I "think" the earring and that superchunky bracelett are silver. I'll check that.

Found my first silver coin, which is pretty rare here in germany, especially on the beach:

And old coin from belgium:

A gold-plated german WW2 navi button:

And the oldest coin I've found so far from 1886! :

It's just crazy what those construction sites bring up! Gotta love 'em ?

Works great so far - it found what the equinox found

Only had a problem once or twice with very small bits of aluminium foil.

Anyone else thinks the holster is too stiff?

Been out only twice the last week including yesterday and made ~ 12€

Some fresh coins, but I'm still digging plenty of old coins on the same beaches again and again.. crazy!

Also found another cartridge - I think it's the third within 5 weeks on VERY well hammered small beaches.

There were 2 other detectorists yesterday and that beach is only approx. 250mx30m. No wonder why I don't find heaps of money ?

3 hours ago, Nuke em said:

Do i sense a factory recall ? 

Don't think so, I'm with chase there. The machine has some issues and I hope there will be an software update soon, because the userprofile messes up the settings big time.

1 hour ago, Chase Goldman said:

BTW, have you given Sinclair's Single freq beach anomaly a go yet?  If I can get it to happen, I am going to see if it saves in the User Profile slot, too.  Weird.

Just to be clear: I am hunting park1 single frequency stored as userprofile and beach1 multi frequency, didn't obuse beach1 at 5kHz, yet. That anomaly seems to happen, when the user profile is loaded and I am fiddling around with tonebreaks etc. and switch back to beach1 (didn't turn the machine off). It would keep beach1 at 5kHz even if I cycle through the profiles. If I hit the frequency button, it makes that typical "odd" sound, flips back to multi frequency and stays there.

Ooops .. I did it again:

If I am coinshooting only, I prefer 5 and 10kHz, because that solves my problems with 2€ coins ringing at the same ID as pulltabs and bottletops get such high IDs, you can distinguish them more easily. You do loose some depth, especially on small items - they may disappear completely.

Believe it or not - I got the nox running beach1 and single frequency 5kHz once I guess it was just another software glitch.. been switching around between userprofile park1 5kHz based and beach1 a lot.. and wondered, why all of the sudden the 2€ coin was ringing at 21 in beach1

Imho there are also some other glitches going on with f.e. the tonebreak settings and userprofile switching other than the ones being known.

22 pounds - not to bad at all. I wish I would find that much in euro coins per Hunt ? 

I had 8,40€ yesterday, pretty good for my hunted out beach.

The coins I’ve found in the wet were pretty useless.. gone too far.

I have one spot with high EMI, too. Switching to single frequency for that part of the beach did the trick for me.

11 hours ago, steveg said:

There is NOTHING like having kids...they will grow you and change you in ways you can't imagine...

True words spoken ?

I have three - two of them being twins.

I've been out with some test settings yesterday and made a short video:

"If you want to coin-shoot fresh stuff only on the beach with the nox, your're eventually better off switching to single-frequency.

This are example settings only! You can discrim 0-18 and 25-40 if you want to. Remember: Either way you can loose a lot of other valueable targets!

I've been on the dry sand with this settings yesterday and they worked out pretty well. The machine ran very quiet, because it doesn't pick up all the small stuff in 5 kHz. You can clearly distinguish Pulltabs and Bottletops from the 2€ coins."

8 hours ago, strick said:

They can be avoided for the most part with a little detective work

I think I've read a lot of threads and seen many videos

Some of the bottletops have super solid IDs 360°, tip of the coil, pulling, frequency.. no matter. There were a hand full of situations with two targets in the hole - the nox is good in highlighting the better signal.

I have 3 small beaches I hunt regularly, so before playing detective on the same bottletops over and over again, I figured I'll better dig them.

Hunting the dry sand over here is probably a whole different story than on some hunting videos I saw complaining about bottletops... just saying

Today I've installed some Wilson Pro Sensation overgrip tape on my nox. It's super thin and feels super comfy. I think it'll probably won't hold up very long, time will tell. I'll try to wear no gloves on the swinging hand (finally warm enough )

Some trash analysis... and the winner is...

... bottletops! OMFG

Afterthoughts:

25°C tomorrow - hopefully some people get themselves  on the beach .. Watertemperature 10°C .. waiting for the season to come..

1 hour ago, Cal_Cobra said:

My EQ800 and Multi Kruzer aren't going anywhere any time soon.

Did you have a chance to compare them, yet?

6 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

Are you able to cash in or convert those obsolete coins to modern Euros?

Afaik it is still possible, not sure which condition they must be in - never tried it though.

6 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

The Eqx does seem to pack a lot of targets into the 12-13 region

Foil seems to have a pretty wide range. 1-11 most of the time, but I had some ring at 21. Old german coins range from 11-17, so does Gold, pulltabs, Euro coins, bottletops and so on..  19-22 are Euro coins most of the time, but I've also dug small small aluminium lids, silver, lead and copper in that range. The bigger aluminium lids are in the 24-25 range, but so are brass nuts and peaces of copper for example. Yesterday I had a smashing 33-35 signal and instantly thought: Silver - but it was i big chunk of molten aluminium. To me it looks like the size of the target also changes the ID by a good amount and I am not used to that.

Imho the ID system is not very usefull - at least for beach-hunting over here. You can't really predict targets or even the type of metal. On the beach digging many targets may not be an issue - but if I would have to dig every nice signal in a park .. holy cow

Sometimes the numbers are not as stable as advertised, but are accurate on very deep targets - I'll give it that - and the nox is a very deep machine. 90% of my finds seemed to be things, others have missed.

10 hours ago, bado1 said:

Sell the Nox while the demand is high. Get a CTX or perhaps the Kruzer.

The CTX is way too heavy for me. If they'd come out with a CTX with the speed and weight of the nox, that would probably be my machine!

At the moment I only have the permission to detect on beaches. Everything is pretty restricted over here, still waiting for my course to detect fields (been waiting nearly 3 years now!) - woods are absolut taboo in northern germany.

Second problem:

There's no shop nearby where I can get my hands on some detectors to try out and I don't have the money to buy and sell detectors untill I got the right one. I will probably keep the nox, because it has many features I do like a lot. But the lesson I've learned is, that I'll not pre-order an unseen/tested machine again anytime soon..

Here's the roundup after ~4 weeks noxin':

51€ clad ~ 60$

> 28DM old-school clad and two foreign coins.

15 pcs very old clad (one missing on the photo). Oldest: 1905

3x silver and some junk jewelry

At least one bucket full of trash...

All in all not too bad for my beaches. The season didn't even start.

Here's an example of what I have to deal with on some of my beaches:

Problems so far:

Loose lower rod. Grip shows some signs of wear on the rubber. Bottletops + IDs for Euro clad are sub-optimal.

Nice find! They are cheap in europe, too. 39€ shipped seems like a fair deal to me. The ML80 are 189€ .. that‘s just rediculously expensive for a rebranded of the shelf product imho!