strick

1 hour ago, Ridge Runner said:

Strick I don’t have the detector so I’m not waiting on that small coil like you and so many others.

 I believe it be best not to buy any detector if it don’t have a small coil to begin with. It’s bull having to wait as long as you and so many others are still waiting.

 I started to buy into it when it first came out but sure glad I didn’t.

 The Best  Chuck 

Don't get me wrong Chuck...I love the detector...beach and park hunting it's a gem... I even used it for a bit up in some real tough dirt in the high sierras and it seemed to handle it just fine as the Nox had done previously in the same location... I'm with you and I'm thinking I may hold off on any new Minelab detectors until they get their S&*T together...especially after what I went through on the 6000 which is now my favorite go to easy to use gold machine since the recall and the introduction of the after market coils..but

Get off your Arse Minelab you tease us for months and don't put out. I need that coil for my trashy beaches and parks!

strick

I'm gonna log on to this site and hear that the 5x8 coil is out...and then I will be happy... until then I'll just keep cussing Minelab daily. 

strick

From my limited experience I would say the M-Core is deeper when hunting in disk modes. I have not tested the machines this is just my personal guess as i have both. The excal I own has a 8 inch coil and I use it exclusively in trashy beaches in the water only...because I do not have the 5x8 yet for the manticore so there is no way for me to compare the two....I have dug some really deep things on the beach with the M-Core 15-18 inch deep coins regularly...but this depends on the beach location. 

strick

SS and some older Brass will test positive on scratch test..SS will hold all the way to 18-22k acid sometimes...as noted above that it's fairly easy to tell the gold by the softness of the metal during the scratch test...Nice hunt Compass looking forward to getting back in the hunt (for jewelry) myself soon..thanks for sharing 

strick 

Dope, weapons and jewelry sounds like a typical school yard around here as well...Had to look up what a ganja grinder was thats how much I know lol...I've found some really nice knives as well...nice hunt. 

strick

Thats funny as I was just thinking that you should have one by now as it seems you have to be a you-tuber these days to have one. Glad you got to try it out. who knows maybe they will be for sale before the end of the year 🤣 Now I'll watch your video..

strick 

5 hours ago, phrunt said:

Wonder if our buddy @strick can x-ray some Manticore coils to see what's going on in there 😉

 

Theres only one right now and I took a picture of it the day I got it...will get the small coil up there when I get on in my hands...

I have no idea whats going on inside those coils but I do get satisfaction from the comments and analysis from all the "coil doctors"  

I'll end up getting the small coil if it ever become available..and I'll bring my own lube if I have to.. no one wants to spend a lot of money on this stuff..so what I've been doing is to sell something that I'm not really using (anything) to help offset the cost of the new toy...makes me feel better about it.

If I can help myself I wont be jumping on new Minelab detectors for a while...I just don't like how they are doing business...they should have made the manticore coils available a long time ago...and the 6000 coils I've got three now that I prefer not to use just sitting because I'm using after market coils that work better...

strick 

Thanks for the report on the up date.

strick

Try  another coil if that don’t work send it in.

strick

Well at least you can say that XP finishes what they start... 

I would have bought the small elliptical had that been the surprise...I'm wondering what the hold up is on that? they already have the molds from the Deus 1 (I still have that machine and coil) I know that the battery is in the shaft on that coil...is there just not enough room inside the coil to make it happen with the Deus ? It seems that the 9 inch round on the deus 2 is the same size as it was on the Deus 1 ......sorry for the ramble...

strick

The small coil is a no brainer for me...a must have. I was digging corroded zinc pennies 15 inches deep with ease on my last beach hunt with the M-Core using the deep audio...I may sell my TDI pro if it weren't for its clean sweep coil that I like to use. I dont know that I would need the large  M15 unless I beach hunted more often...yea they gotcha by the you know whats..

strick 

Gotcha...I just haven’t been hunting enough to worry about the new update but that’s good to know...hope they have a roll back method.

strick

I have not done the up date as I was happy with the machine the way it was so thanks for that Andy I hope you get your machine resolved...

strick

800 great machine...found lots of great stuff with it...I still have my wife's 800 to use if needed with the small coils. I have not picked it up since buying the M-Core but may have to if the small coil is needed.  But people saying saying the M core is no better the the 800 is ridiculous..more features deeper machine way better audio options etc.. come on man give me a break...😀

strick 

15 hours ago, Digalicious said:

So, getting back to slaw or any aluminum for that matter. I see three general  identification scenarios:


1) The aluminum trash gives a single ID. TT would show a perfect circle. 

2) The aluminum trash has two adjacent ID's (let's say 20 and 21). TT shows an oval.

3) The aluminum trash has separated ID's (let's say 20, 29, and 32. TT shows 3 separated circles.

Now the problem is, gold jewelry comes in so many different shapes, sizes, karats, and alloys, that it produces the same identification results as all the various aluminum trash. As such, I fail to see how TT would provide any advantage to a jewelry hunter.

 

 

Identification of any target with the M-Core is through the digging process as it has been with any metal detector that I have ever used. For instance a quarter may read a 95 on a VLF detector. I in my collection of finds I have a gold nugget that also reads and sounds like a quarter on most the VLF's I've used. I mentioned TT size and irregularity in my post above as the M Core does not just produce perfectly round and oval shapes as you eluded to in your 3 scenarios. You would have to use the machine and dig many hundreds of targets and see for yourself. That being said I disagree with your jury verdict that the TT is not a useful addition when performing analysis of targets..I'm not going to go into any more details as I have many better things to do then debate with people I don't know about things they may or may not know on the internet..no offense intended 🙂

strick 

7 hours ago, Digalicious said:

Hi Strick.

When you say you can call out larger can slaw most of the time, are you suggesting that is due to TT or the intensity / loudness of the audio, the ID, the pinpoint size? 

 

TT size and irregularity plus the audio which helps indicate the size of the target...this is only for larger pieces of can slaw...the smaller ones that read into the teens are harder to distinguish. I only use the PP for smaller deeper targets. Most of the can slaw I dig is not super deep like the coins are. 

strick 

Having dug lots of can slaw with the M-Core I can say with certainty that the TT and sound can help to identify these larger targets...Of course you don't know what you are passing up if you don't dig it but I am able to call out can slaw most of the time...am I fooling myself by sayin that? maybe and maybe not due to the odds that finding can slaw are greater then good targets in most situations... But a small piece of can slaw can TID the same as a gold ring...which is why I dig most non ferrous targets when hunting...

strick 

2 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

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This seems like a rather minor tweak since previously you got a dark gray VDI with a red underline.  I guess some people had trouble noticing the underscore??

Exactly what I was thinking.....Personally I did fine with the red line ferrous indicator...

strick

My wife and I  the chance to run the 12x7 this past weekend up in the high sierras. The coil runs smoother then any of the other coils I have..lay the machine on its side on the ground...no problems at all...in fact we hardly had to do any noise cancels..We did not get over any gold but dug plenty of small bits of rubbish at depth..as usual Klunker showed us how it's done with his tried and true 7000. 

strick

I hesitate to say this but the M Core seems every bit as deep as my TDI Pro is on the beach in central Calif recently. While accurately calling out targets 

strick

Almost forgot

Strick

350 thanks for taking us along. The turtle is cool...While at work yesterday I seen a crow pick up a baby ground squirrel and fly off with it chirping in it's claws then came a hawk to try to snatch it from the crow but the crow dropped it and I could not see what happened after that. The signet ring may clean up. I always hold out hope for things like that. As you know gold is softer then brass so you should be able to tell if doing a scratch test by that alone...one thing that used to fool me was that brass will test positive to 10k acid. 

strick 

Just now, strick said:

Having grown up with a sister that is totally deaf I can say that if you do not know sign language then just be patient and friendly and that is help enough. Lots of deaf people have been taught how to read lips so look them straight in the eye and talk a little slower. Learning how to at least spell in sign language is not a hard task but if you don't use it often they you may loose it.  Hearing aids and bone phones are great for hearing impaired folks but for someone with nerve damage that processes the signal from the cochlea to the brain (totally deaf) they wont work. I was very happy when I learned that the metal detector companies were adding things to help out with handicapped folks. 

strick 

Having grown up with a sister that is totally deaf I can say that if you do not know sign language then just be patient and friendly and that is help enough. Learning how to at least spell in sign language is not a hard task but if you don't use it often they you may loose it.  Hearing aids and bone phones are great for hearing impaired folks but for someone with nerve damage that processes the signal from the cochlea to the brain (totally deaf) they wont work. I was very happy when I learned that the metal detector companies were adding things to help out with handicapped folks. 

strick 

30 minutes ago, Digalicious said:

What's most concerning about the video, is the comments.

Many were saying things akin to, "Thanks for pointing out the problem with the Manticore", or "I was going to buy a Manticore, and now I'm not".

It gets my ire when newbies are being misled by erroneous information and half truths.
 

Its human nature....people are sponges they been and always will be...it's easy to believe and not think...it's harder to care than to not care... tell people what they want to hear and they run with it...If someone is on the fence about buying something tell them it's crap or hype and they will go with that...

strick