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The XP ICON 7X is a next-generation wireless multi-frequency metal detector from the French company XP, combining high performance, advanced technology and ease of use. Ideal for finding coins, relics, and gold. This is a universal device for experienced users and enthusiasts who value lightness, accuracy, and great detection depth. It stands out from the competition due to its cable free wireless technology, Fast Multi Frequency (FMF) and high build quality. The classic VDI range provides values from 1 to 10 for ferrous metals and from 11 to 99 for non-ferrous metals. Customizable audio response allows the user to adjust the signal intensity. Additionally, the "Iron Volume" function is provided, as well as the ability to adjust the ground balance and signal processing speed. The ICON 7X also has a built-in speaker. The design has a standard rod mount for the XP Deus and XP Deus II series, making it compatible with some existing accessories.
Key features:
- FMF® (Fast Multi Frequency) — simultaneous operation in a wide frequency range: from 4 to 45 kHz. 49 single frequencies are also available.
- Ready-made and custom programs: 4 factory + custom. It is adjusted to any conditions: mineralized soils, debris, water, depth.
- Fully Wireless System: The coil, control unit, and headphones are connected using the proprietary XP radio protocol — more reliable and faster than Bluetooth.
- High-precision discrimination: accurate target recognition with the ability to adjust sound, ID, response, and response speed.
- Water protection : against rain, snow, fog
- Minimal weight and ergonomics: telescopic S-handle, total weight from 750 g - convenient even for long-term use.
- Long battery life: remote control - up to 30 hours, coil - up to 20 hours.
- Protection and reliability: impact-resistant case, rubberized remote control, 5-year warranty.
Equipment:
- Telescopic rod (lightweight and durable)
- FMF coil (various sizes to choose from)
- Remote control (waterproof, with color display)
- Wireless earbuds (including bone conduction version)
- Chargers and cables
Specifications:
Frequency - FMF (4–45 kHz), + single
Water Protection - Rain, snow, fog
Weight (assembled) ~750 grams
Programs - 4 factory + custom
Battery - Unit: Up to 30 hours operation Coil: Up to 20 hours operation
Interfaces - Wireless, USB chargingALL SPECIFICATIONS PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE
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Looks real to me. Less expensive dry land model? Hopefully with a redesigned menu system rebuilt from ground up. If they sold the pod only lots of existing Deus 2 owners might be very interested in addition to new buyers.
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15 minutes ago, Bill (S. CA) said:
I just finished reading through the entire engineering report. It was a fascinating read. The SignaGraph was a very ingenious invention.
Being naive like I am, I wish that the current crop of engineers working at First Texas, Nokta, Garrett, Minelab and XP would read this report. I think there are features that could, and should be updated to include in our current crop of metal detectors.
Steve, I for one hope you continue to post these types of documents as you come across them.
Bill
I think the SignaGraph is vastly superior to what Garrett did with the Vortex display. I suggested that they had both the rights and the ability to implement it as an alternative Vortex display. Would probably have a heart attack if that was actually something they did though, so do not expect anything to come of it. Too bad, still my favorite visual display system, something you can customize the responses with to some extent.
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Off topic posts deleted. Please people, stay on topic or start your own thread instead of high jacking other people's threads. Thanks.
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GTI 2500 was made from 1999 to 2024, so it was a long time, but the Fisher Gold Bug 2 beats it in that regard (1995 and still in production).
9 hours ago, Wild Bill said:Has anyone compared the new Garret 24k with the original Whites? Since Garrett boosted coil signal (I think) did it improve performance?
Garrett did not "boost" anything. The coil was remade to Garrett's manufacturing standards is all (I tested it). The White's and Garrett versions of the 24K are for all intents the same detector, just different colors.
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5 hours ago, Rivers rat said:
Someone must have (for a good reason) believed in it,i mean they were the 1st correct me if i am wrong then come Minelab with the EXPLO XS if my memory is right...
RR
Not sure what you mean really. The Eagle was a top performer and popular in it's day. Of course the analog guys hated it.
One last one for now, far better copy than anything I found out there already (just one bad scanned copy on another forum).
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7 hours ago, Jim McCulloch said:
Steve, your posting was a nostalgic flash back to the early days of digital detecting. The field test report I did for "Treasure" magazine was the very first detector field test I performed. I spent a lot of time and effort trying to reconcile analog into digital. Thanks again buddy.
I am putting too much work into getting these old engineering reports up for what is obviously almost no interest. I get it, people have moved on, think this is just ancient history. Truth is the concepts laid out clearly in the Spectrum/Vision and MXT/GMT engineering reports is a real solid foundation for anyone wanting to know how modern digital metal detectors work. I will do one more at least as these old reports deserve to be easier to find. In that regard the effort is worth it, even if only a handful of people are interested.
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The Excalibur/Manticore discussion has been split off and moved from this Fisher Impulse Forum and to the Excalibur Forum.
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1 hour ago, Joe Beechnut OBN said:
That's great!
I might be one of the few who believe air test can play a roll in comparing the same machines or testing head phones. And it can help in learning your machine I believe when it comes to settings, it really helped me on the AQ seeing how you can go from 1 to almost 8 on the ATS setting with out much difference then just a hair more it can knock out clad and small iron. And with that I learned it could knock out some gold if you go much further. And I know many other things can come into play once the targets are coming out of the ground but airtest for me have really helped in my learning and improving performance.
I’ve never disputed air tests can play an important role in detector testing. I’m also adamant that air tests reveal almost nothing about competitive performance at depth in anything but the mildest non-mineralized soils. It seems it always must be black and white about things these days, good or bad, useful or useless. Life’s a little more complicated than that.
Air tests are great for determining max performance under ideal conditions. In the tests above it would be unrealistic to expect an Eagle to hit a quarter deeper than 14 inches. And they are great as in this case as acting as a verification that the detector is running within spec. I love air testing to determine what target id to expect on a nickel and a zinc penny under ideal conditions. I air test to learn tones.
But I have done lots of testing for manufacturers over the years and my specialty is putting detectors in tough ground. I hear all the time how well this thing tested in the lab (air tests), only to have it fall on it's face in the field. Countless detectors that worked great in the lab never made it to production simply because they failed on the ground. That's just the facts of real world detector testing. If all that was needed was air tests there would be no need for the engineers to send detectors to me.
But I still like air tests for lots of things!
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I just finished scanning and uploading the rare Engineering Guide to the White's Eagle Spectrum from 1991. A true innovation in detecting, one of the first digital models, and the first with what became the White's SignaGraph display. 28 page free download so check it out.
Page 17 caught my eye as something we do not see these days. And actual factory produced air test/calibration chart for the Eagle Spectrum. It gave owners an easy way to see if their detector was performing to factory spec. It better serves here to show just how far we have come since 1991 in detector performance. Or not, depending how you look at it.
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I just finished scanning and uploading the rare Engineering Guide to the White's Eagle Spectrum from 1991. A true innovation in detecting, one of the first digital models, and the first with what became the White's SignaGraph display. 28 page free download so check it out.
Page 17 caught my eye as something we do not see these days. And actual factory produced air test/calibration chart for the Eagle Spectrum. It gave owners an easy way to see if their detector was performing to factory spec. It better serves here to show just how far we have come since 1991 in detector performance. Or not, depending how you look at it.
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Guide to Eagle Spectrum & Engineering ReportRare report I just scanned and uploaded, details on one of the first and most innovative digital detector designs in history. The Eagle was the first detector with a simple version of the White's SignaGraph display. 28 pages
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27 minutes ago, JCR said:
Thanks for the new sub forum for Other Brands. I think it will help when searching for info and in Posting new info.
There was not a particular thread I had in mind. I just knew it always seemed confusing for me to post about DeepTech if it was not in relation to a comparison. I thought I had in the past used the Compass Tesoro... sub forum.
Your recent expansion of the site is all good from my view.
The Comparisons forum is also was an advice forum and so served as a dumping ground for posts about "Other Brands" There will always be some gray area threads that don't fit neatly one place or another, or just stuff people post out of place and I miss them. I agree that setting up a separate "Other Brands" Forum helps clarify it.
I set up the new forum and moved all the Deeptech, Golden Mask, Nexus, and Rutus threads I could find. Full threads, not just misc mentions on threads. Putting those four together managed to scrape up three pages of threads, my desired minimum for a forum.
https://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/110-other-metal-detector-brands-forum/
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Welcome to the Misc Detector Brands Forum! Only posts about what I consider to be legitimate metal detector brands may be posted here. This includes, Deeptech, Golden Mask, Nexus, and Rutus. Links to LRL or junk brands will be deleted. Forums for other subjects may be found here. The main goal here - to inform and educate. Please keep threads and posts on topic. Off topic posts may be moved or deleted without warning.
The main goal of the forum is to share information. If you see something interesting on another forum or anywhere else, please link to it. The only goal here is to inform and anything interesting or informative is not only allowed but desired as long as it is on topic.
While visiting this forum please act as if you are visiting my home. Treat others with decency and respect. Politics is not strictly prohibited but limit it to items of concern such as public meeting notices, comment periods, etc. No detector wars - every detector serves a purpose for somebody. For general editorial purposes this forum is treated as if it is a magazine.
Do not place ads for your detector or equipment for sale here. That is only allowed in the Classifieds and is only for participating members - read the rules.
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19 minutes ago, JCR said:
It just always seemed odd to start a Thread on a currently made, but somewhat obscure detector in the sub forum for companies no longer in business. Maybe a dedicated sub forum for "Other Brands" ?
A link to this thread you are mentioning would be very helpful. As I said before, nearly all Deeptech threads reside on the Comparisons forum, as shown by the tags thread I provided in my last post. I believe it was mentioned on the Tesoro Forum because it is the current brand most similar to Tesoro for those looking for detectors like that.
In the meantime I will setup a Other Brands Forum. I fear it will be a magnet for LRL and other junk, but hopefully I am wrong.
Again, please point me at this thread that's bugging you.
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4 hours ago, Elijah said:
Where are you? The new GPZ 8000 ? 😊
To sum up everything I have heard….. the successor to the GPZ 7000 has been rumored to be in field testing for years. The most optimistic rumors at this time call for a possible announcement by the end of this year, with actual availability in 2026. I will also point to similar rumors happening every year for at least the last six years now as reason not to get overly excited. People were confidently predicting the GPZ 8000 release on this forum in 2019 and every year since.
https://www.detectorprospector.com/topic/11477-gpz-8000-rumors/
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8 hours ago, Tom Slick said:
What! No Score Forum? 😁
I’m only seeing half a dozen threads on this “Other” subforum about the Score. I used at least a couple pages of existing threads or about 25 threads or more total as a cutoff for having a subforum. Anything not meeting that standard did not make the cut. The one exception I made is the Nokta Pulse Induction Forum, which I believe will be one of the busiest forums by the end of year, so laying the groundwork now before I moved on to other stuff.
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5 hours ago, JCR said:
@Steve Herschbach Would it be a good idea to move the Posts on the less common but still in production detectors like DeepTech out of the defunct group of Tesoro, Compass sub forum?
I never knew there were any there, will look and move to comparisons forum. I don’t move individual posts, only full threads devoted to a subject. So if somebody brings DeepTech up in the middle of a thread about something else, oh well. There are not enough actual DeepTech threads to rate a forum yet. Maybe 20 total at this time
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On 6/9/2025 at 1:14 PM, Swegin said:
I thought you were retired Steve? LOL.. Looks good.
I am... but not dead yet.
So I piddle around with this and that as the mood hits me. I am done now it seems with the forum shuffle, added a few more, the last being for Minelab BBS/FBS models, Sovereign, Excalibur, Explorer, E-TRAC, Safari, etc.
It will be interesting to see where the forum goes from here. AI driven search is leading to a marked decline in traffic so who knows how that will all end. I have no plans going forward other than to keep things running as long as at least a few people want to keep the ball rolling. Traffic these days is driven largely by new model releases, so a new Minelab Gold Monster 2000 and Nokta PI this fall should perk things up a little.
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Welcome to the Minelab BBS/FBS Forum! It includes all BBS/FBS models including the Sovereign, Excalibur, Explorer, Explorer II, Explorer SE, E-TRAC, and Safari. Anything remotely related to the subject may be posted here. Forums for other subjects may be found here. The main goal here - to inform and educate. Please keep threads and posts on topic. Off topic posts may be moved or deleted without warning.
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While visiting this forum please act as if you are visiting my home. Treat others with decency and respect. Politics is not strictly prohibited but limit it to items of concern such as public meeting notices, comment periods, etc. No detector wars - every detector serves a purpose for somebody. For general editorial purposes this forum is treated as if it is a magazine.
Do not place ads for your detector or equipment for sale here. That is only allowed in the Classifieds and is only for participating members - read the rules.
A note about the Google Ads - I know we all hate ads but they pay for the website. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. All I can do is to promise not to go overboard with them.Special Note To Dealers - Dealers are welcome here, with minimal guidelines. Please read My Policy Regarding Dealers
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Welcome to the White's 6.59 kHz Detector Forum! This includes all models that share the same 6.59 kHz search coils, including the White's XLT, Eagle Spectrum, 6000 XL, XL Pro, QXT Pro, IDX, ID, Classic III, 5900, Sierra Madre, and PRL-1. Anything remotely related to the subject may be posted here. Forums for other subjects may be found here. The main goal here - to inform and educate. Please keep threads and posts on topic. Off topic posts may be moved or deleted without warning.
The main goal of the forum is to share information. If you see something interesting on another forum or anywhere else, please link to it. The only goal here is to inform and anything interesting or informative is not only allowed but desired as long as it is on topic.
While visiting this forum please act as if you are visiting my home. Treat others with decency and respect. Politics is not strictly prohibited but limit it to items of concern such as public meeting notices, comment periods, etc. No detector wars - every detector serves a purpose for somebody. For general editorial purposes this forum is treated as if it is a magazine.
Do not place ads for your detector or equipment for sale here. That is only allowed in the Classifieds and is only for participating members - read the rules.
A note about the Google Ads - I know we all hate ads but they pay for the website. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. All I can do is to promise not to go overboard with them.Special Note To Dealers - Dealers are welcome here, with minimal guidelines. Please read My Policy Regarding Dealers
If you have problems logging in or any other issues while on the forum send me a Personal Message (PM). Information on other general forum use and features can be found here.
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On 7/11/2024 at 8:47 PM, abenson said:
I've used and found gold with all of the mentioned detectors. It all comes down to the size of gold you compare them on and how bad the ground is. The Manticore will find small shallow gold neither of the other 2 will even see. The 5000 on the other hand will see bigger deeper gold than the other 2 especially in high mineral or hot rock infested ground. IMO you really can't do an overall comparison and declare one winner for all situations. Now if you just want to know which one is the most versatile for the majority of the situations, I'd say the 6000 is the clear choice.
Totally agree but will add one thing. The Manticore discrimination is 1000% better than that on the 6000 (none) and 5000 (extremely poor). If you are looking for gold in very trashy old mining sites this could make a big difference.
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