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  1. Yes, those that think First Texas is going broke or something are way off base. You nailed it - they are too busy making real money to bother with detectors. For those that might think otherwise, check this out:
  2. PI snobbery. A person can find gold with a VLF just fine in Oz. Maybe not to make a buck, but to just have fun and go find gold, no problem. As always the PI guys tend to leave a lot of little bits that are VLF bread and butter. Given however that a good PI is better if you get serious about it, what better move for a dealer but to sell the Monster, and therefore Minelab, so that when the person is ready to move up, there is no brand switching? The Monster just sets the hook, and then it’s off to the races with better and more expensive machines. We’ve all been there. Again though, where is the incentive for the dealer to push the Garrett, knowing it will probably just end up being Minelab in the end? Yeah, unlike you Simon to come to the party not having already read up on XGB, which was on the forum here ages ago, so you see the difficulty Garrett has, when even somebody like you missed it. You can’t see what you are not looking for.
  3. Minelab has owned the gold market so long now that if you ignore all other brands it does not hurt you. Can an argument be made that the 24K is competitive with the Monster? Sure. But the U.S. manufacturers long ago ceded the field to Minelab, and getting that lost market back is all but impossible at this point. Minelab has a plethora of models that offer an upgrade path. Garrett, or anyone else, basically nothing. If a person wants to be a dealer selling nugget detectors they can sell Minelab and ignore the rest, and basically give up nothing. That being the case, Minelab right now almost completely owns the distribution market in places like Africa, whereas Garrett has little to no dealers at all. If a dealer is doing well selling Monsters, (and they actually are Simon, best seller at my old Alaska dealership), then what real incentive is there to switch horses? Because the 24K is better? Maybe, but if you are selling detectors splitting hairs over stuff like that does not put food on the table. You just go with what people want, and people want Minelabs. A huge issue also is Garrett product being overpriced in Oz. If it was me, I’d eat some margin to invest in some price equalization measures to offset the shipping costs and import fees. If Garrett wants to make headway they may need to buy a little market share.
  4. They sell huge numbers of detectors, just not the ones you are interested in. They are also doing a lot more than just metal detectors, as First Texas is a diversified holding company. In fact that may be the problem - the real corporate interest may be focused elsewhere. The company is not close to going broke, far from it. Even if detectors go away, First Texas will go on.
  5. Iron bias / bottle cap reject has nothing to do with multifrequency, and multi can have as many audio options as single frequency. The problem has been with us forever, and even early White’s analog detectors had a bottle cap reject setting. If anything it was a problem that showed up more with the switch from concentric to DD coils. Why ferrous items can read non-ferrous From Whites XLT manual (6.59 kHz single frequency): BOTTLECAP REJECT Adjusts how strongly the instrument rejects or breaks up on iron. Most starting programs use the minimum setting. As larger numbers are selected, more bias rejection against iron occurs. The advantage of higher BOTTLECAP REJECT settings is that in high-trash areas more decisive iron rejection occurs. Trash becomes easier to identify by the broken sounds they produce. The disadvantage of a high Bottlecap Rejection setting is if an iron target is close to a good metal, the high degree of bias against iron may cause the detector to cancel both responses. Another disadvantage is that all targets, iron and non-iron, tend to start sounding more broken at high levels of BOTTLECAP REJECT. The operator needs to fine tune BOTTLECAP REJECT according to their preferences and the conditions being searched. Sound familiar? And note that it affects not just the target, but masking of nearby targets. Honestly, this is old school stuff, and people act like it’s a new discovery or something. Again, read the article I linked to above to get a better handle on the issue. In a nutshell, ferrous items produce both ferrous and non-ferrous responses, and the problem only gets worse in mixed content items like modern bottlecaps. It also gets worse as ground gets worse, and targets more oddball, like nuggets or jewelry. So people detecting coins in mild ground may wonder what all the fuss is about. I do agree there might be a trend to overly processed audio, but I find my solution to that in fast processing and full tones. If a detector is as fast as an Equinox, for example, I can hear an actual audio profile of a single target instead of a simple, single tone. Many people prefer something like three or five tones because it reduces all targets but those in a breakpoint to a simple tone. High speed and full tones returns complex targets to delivering complex, nuanced signals.
  6. If somebody could make a perfect ferrous/non-ferrous filter, then we would not need the control. Many casual detectorists don’t need it at all either. The reality is the setting is a trade off. Higher eliminates more ferrous, and also runs more risk of missing the desired non-ferrous. Conversely, lower settings reduce the risk of missing desired targets, but you dig more trash. So the question is pretty simple. Are you willing to let the engineer pick the best setting for you? Or would you like the ability to make that decision yourself? People hate digging trash, so I find presets to be too aggressive for me. I get very worried if I’m digging no ferrous at all. So I tend to set where I’m digging some, but not so much as to bother me. It gets me “iffy” finds others miss. This is a simplified example. Iron bias far right gets all gold, but you dig all the ferrous also. Far left eliminates all ferrous, but loses all gold. A typical factory setting as illustrated might eliminate most ferrous, but at what cost?
  7. True perhaps if the only detecting market was the gold nugget market, which it is not. You guys generally sit out things like the fact that the Equinox/Deus 2/Legend debate is now what has the forums on fire, because it has very little to do with nugget detecting. Coin and relic is FTs bread and butter market, and multifrequency is where all the action is. The First Texas response so far is to just discontinue the one multi offering they have had since day one, the Fisher CZ, retaining it only still in a diving model, the CZ-21. They are simply absent from the party. Garrett's Apex may be lackluster, but it at least gets them a mention for that. Fisher is totally out of the discussion. I agree. Minelab basically owns the nugget market, and that's not going to change. It's multifrequency coin and relic detecting we are generally talking about on this thread. It's been and still is FTs main paycheck, and milking old single frequency designs is a losing strategy in the long run. The Impulse AQ is a money and time wasting distraction. They need to bring some real competitive multi to the market fast, or be relegated to simply being Bounty Hunter. That's all they really are now, as they lower the price of the better Fisher and Teknetics models, and move them to the Bounty Hunter brand. May as well just kill Fisher and Teknetics off, and embrace Bounty Hunter. That could work for a long time, just milk that stuff for all it's worth, leveraging their low cost manufacturing facilities, and already paid off development costs, to sell cheaper and cheaper machines. Bounty Hunter F75 for $299? $199? The day is coming. It is a losing strategy in the end, but that has not prevented a lot of companies from going down that road. Unless some huge surprise comes out of left field, that's where I see First Texas heading. Back to it's Bounty Hunter roots, and irrelevancy.
  8. OMG. Try nugget detecting in a location where bedrock has been cleaned with steel brushes! I have another location where a small shack had steel mosquito screens on the windows. Those have since decomposed and scattered across the placer due to high winds. The GPX 6000 is hot enough that these very thin 1/4" make a perfect small gold nugget signal. Hunting the area with a VLF and tuning them out miss the small gold. The only solution is a good magnet, as thankfully the targets are shallow. I've no solution though for the tiny lead birdshot I'm finding now with the 6000, that all my previous PI detectors missed. This whole subject is about discrimination, and fact is for 90%+ of my detecting I use no discrimination. If a location has a high value target I want, there is for me no solution ultimately but to sanitize the location with the most powerful PI I can use. Discrimination is too unreliable, and masking is a massive issue. Yes, I dig tons of trash, but I also find lots of gold in locations others considered to be worked out. I'm talking ounces of gold, not a few nuggets. It is not just nugget hunters. Any beach, and relic location, where there are desired high value targets, all discriminating detectors are a just a phase, a waypoint. Once they start coming up dry, people will go to PI to finish up. Or move on to new locations. But no good site is truly done until something like a GPX 5000/GPX 6000/GPZ 7000 can simply find no signals. That's how you kill a gold patch - you hunt it until nothing goes beep. And that only lasts until a more powerful PI comes out.
  9. These forums are by and large are pretty respectful. FT has made it clear for quite some time the marketing and management people don’t care what we think, and don’t care to engage. What you are seeing is the result of years of customer neglect. There is no point in pretending they (management or marketing) will ever show up officially, and no reason to be fearful of hurting their little feelings. If you are going to be in business, you need to put on the big boy pants when it come it comes to critics. You think a Minelab does not get an earful here? But they still lurk and learn. Or Dilek - fierce warrior that she is, she takes it and gives it right back. Ultimately, it’s First Texas loss, not ours, if they choose to ignore their most rabid fans…. and critics. Any company whose social media strategy is “let’s engage, but only if people are sweet, and treat us with kids gloves” knows nothing about social media, or how to engage with it. If I was running the show at FT, I would show up once a quarter at key locations to talk shop. I’d make it clear it’s just for the day. It would not have to be much, even the barest tidbits. The idea is to show you care enough to bother to engage at all. It’s a two way street, and FT could show a little respect also. Ultimately though, they say a relationship is still alive, as long as there is some passion left. People at least care enough to be sarcastic. It’s when nobody cares at all anymore that it’s really over for FT. They are in serious danger of sliding into irrelevancy.
  10. I have seen pure cubic galena that is quite invisible to a detector. Other forms, especially those that carry silver, can be quite reactive. Rough rule of thumb, the dustier and darker looking it is, the more silver content. I have some high grade galena/silver that I found quite by accident while looking for gold in Arizona - stuff just screamed on my detector. I’m guessing that is less an issue with the Missouri stuff, where some beautiful cubic specimens occur. Actually is the state mineral. https://www.sos.mo.gov/symbol/mineral
  11. Don’t know. I think Aaron is fine, but has dropped off the map on purpose. Moves like shutting down his forum, taking his videos private, etc. all reveal conscious intent. He clearly does not want to offer any explanations in person or by third party. So time to let it go and move on. I wish him the best in whatever is going on, but it’s clearly not really our business, or he would make it so. Too bad Dimitar never took me up on my offer for this to be a place he could interact with his customers. Must be an engineer introvert thing.
  12. The 600 and 800 are same detector, and will do just as well for most people and uses. Gold Mode adds some edge for nuggets, but I could use a 600 and field mode and not come up very short by comparison. If a person can afford it I’d always say get the 800, just for all the extra options. But I genuinely also think a good 600 operator will miss very, very little by comparison, if the two machines are run head to head. The 600 is probably the best bang for the buck value on the market today, though the new Nokta Legend might change that. Jury is out on that one.
  13. Having spent my entire adult life running businesses, I have a short list of culprits where it comes to business dysfunction: Management Management Management Was that Tom Dankowski in the video? He wins my prize for engineer geek speaker.
  14. Are you trying to buy a NF GPZ12 coil? If so, you need to contact Nugget Finder directly. You also speak of paying online, as if you are selling coils. That’s not allowed here, so I’ve deleted your links and contact info. again, if you want a coil from Nugget Finder to go to China, contact them directly at the link to find out the best way to get one.
  15. Maybe more going on there I think than we know about, like 5 kHz not optimal as a multi pick? Both Nokta and XP picked 4 kHz. EMI? 4 to 40 in multi is becoming a thing.
  16. Not enough difference between 40 and 45 kHz to matter. I ditched the Monster and kept the Nox for that very reason. The Monster was redundant.
  17. Gold alloys especially. Almost nobody detects pure gold, but alloys that are all over the map. Regardless of the metal type, as long as it and the shape is the same, the larger it is, the higher it reads. Throw in differences in shape and purity as pimento notes, and it’s a Wild West crapshoot. These gold nuggets vary wildly in purity, shape, and porosity. It means some small nuggets read very high, and some big stuff very low, the big nugget reads like a silver bar. Australian and California gold is relatively pure and clean, so the numbers climb nicely with size. Alaska gold is crap by comparison, lower purity ( yiu can see the color difference), lots of quartz inclusions, etc. The numbers are all over the place.
  18. I do enjoy sarcasm. I heard a rumor a year ago that 2022 was more likely to be "the year" than 2021. And they did kind of clean out the sites to make room, so it seems an ok bet something will come along in 2022. But it can't be close at all, or they would try and head off all the sales they are losing right now to NM and XP by at least dropping a hint, and it is pure radio silence. Could very will be an end of year thing.... and that could turn into next year. I mean, right now, just getting the Impulse AQ out the door would seem to be a miracle, let alone anything else. And like Simon (phrunt) notes, it could just be yet another old box with a new label.
  19. The gist of my post is that no, that's not actually necessarily true, despite what the manuals say. If it was all about theory, maybe, but there is simply more to it than raw targets and frequency.
  20. More power to you David. I think I'll just go detecting with mine and find some stuff.
  21. OK, new forum is done, threads moved. https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/forum/61-xp-deus-ii-forum/ I normally keep detector comparison stuff in a separate forum to stop detector wars. But the Deus II versus whatever videos have been pretty favorable, and not much dissension, so I have moved them all there also. Just seemed like one stop shopping is best. As long as people keep acting like adults it will work. Thanks in advance for that.
  22. It's begun, go here https://www.detectorprospector.com/forums/forum/61-xp-deus-ii-forum/
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  24. Thanks. I hope so. I look at what I write, it's long, a little repetitive, just blah, blah, blah. I don't do more than just type them out, post, and then edit out typos, so it's all very much off the cuff. I just kind of barf them out. But it seems to work, so thanks.
  25. I missed that. You said Carl Fisher? No, it's Gerhard. But yes, I mean Carl Moreland (Geotech)
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