afreakofnature

Hell yeah!

I find myself doing the same thing to that you stated above Steve. It always seems like the volume starts out right but then it’s just too loud and I have to keep turning it down.  I’ve been starting with just having the volume at one on the 6000 and then adjusting with the headphones. If I need to crank the volume up, then i go to two on the unit then I turn the volume all the way down on the headphones first and then adjust from there. And I always run it with a test just to make sure that I can hear targets.  But this method for me seems to pseudo adjust threshold level and emi noise.  Works well for running 10 or auto +.  I have heard some very faint tiny targets this way that i missed first go around re going over a patch found with the 6k initially. I wish I could borrow a Z again to see if I missing anything deep at this patch that the 6K did not get. We have gone over this so many times with all the coils this is going to be a good test patch for new machines or old ones lol 

Thats funny cause I too was messing around with the volume on the unit vs volume in the headphones to crank up the sensitivity but tone down EMI or threshold.  Completely by accident as I thought one would control the other like when wearing BT headphones with an iPad but not the case at all.  Too independent volume controls which give gives unique versatility.

1 hour ago, Gold Catcher said:

 It is hard to imagine that ML would come up with something better in the future, as I believe the 6k is close to perfection. But haven't they always?🤩

The GPZ8500!  You know its coming, the tech is over 7 years old!  Or the GPX6800 with stable threshold using GeoSense 2.0 😂. Noticed that I adjusted the numbers to correlate with price 😂 

I use a Garmin InReach Mini.  It too can Bluetooth to your phone and use through an app that Garmin has or you can send a text just through the device itself. The recipient does not need to have the garmin app, it just texts to their phone. It has other features to but I don’t pay for them. The subscription plan that I use is the basic one and it’s about $12 a month. 

There is no overlay and the BLMs MLRS will only get you to 1/4 section.  After that you will have to do your own research and pull claim maps from the county.  To avoid pulling them all, there are 640 acres in a section and 160 acres in a 1/4 section.  So when looking at the BLM site you can see if all the claims in that 1/4 add up to 160.  If not there might be a place to detect, personally join a few of the clubs in the area and learn the ropes……..or you could claim jump.

Same reason why I am waiting to buy any vehicle that is made between 2020-2022 atleast!

Impressive vids in my opinion.  Wether gold or not it sure shows what those detectors can do on those specific targets.

When running the 17” or 14” I do the same as Steve.  Except I add the the Minelab cross-bar to my camel-bak.  I will also use the Minelab guide arm, keep in mind though that it is made for the 7000 so you have to reverse the rubber strap in order for it to fit around the shaft of the 6000.  It almost makes the machine weightless.  However when I’m running the 11 inch get I get rid of all that stuff it makes it more stealthy and allows for larger swings.

Bret you did great!  The man was finding gold the night before class even started!  Welcome to nuggeteering!  Now that you have the skills, get on that Idaho research and find some backyard gold! 😁

7 hours ago, LuckyLundy said:

  Tried the DD for a few hours with no luck, don’t know if the ground and line I took was bad, but the guys behind me where finding nuggets…so back to the 11”.

I ran the DD for the first time yesterday just to try it out. We had some pretty saturated ground from getting up to a foot of snow last week but it was just saturated not salty. I was detecting basically in mud lol. I did pull out a .03 dink, but not deep.  Just FYI.

10 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Someone who is searching needs to know who is laying claim to a particular 'loss' so they can make a deal.

It is my understanding in Florida that as a beach detectorist I can't legally keep anything that is deeper than low tide.  If I cross that line and find treasure then it legally is not mine.  It is like a mining claim.  That is the boundary.  Now you are saying that even if a treasure is located on a Florida claim then there are others who have a superior claim?

Let's jump to lost jewelry on the beach.  I guess anyone who can prove that they owned something could 'claim' it if they know you have found it.  It depends upon how the owner was parted from their valuable possession.  If it was by way of theft then the owner of record could put a claim on it and get it without paying for it.

I'm reminded of a few things I read recently.  One was a story about Hobby Lobby which purchased items that had been looted or stolen.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/23/877581382/after-missteps-and-controversies-museum-of-the-bible-works-to-clean-up-its-act

Another story I remember reading was about a guitar once owned by Randy Bachman.  It was stolen.  So what happened?

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/22/1048289039/randy-bachman-fan-tracks-down-the-musicians-stolen-guitar-in-japan

I had a car that was stolen from me back in the 80s.  It was a Datsun B210.  If I was ever able to locate that car I am still listed as the registered owner.  I could claim it and not have to pay the present owner.  I haven't looked online for it in a few years!  haha

You may know other stories.

Anyway ... lost and stolen ... even a ring or jewelry on the beach can have strings.  Some try to give the lost items back through ring finders and others ... it is just a lot of hard work finding some things so you deserve to keep it.

To expand on this, I have a friend who was a lawyer as a public defendant.  He told me that objects I find (Jewelry, Reclics, whatever) has an owner and that “finders keepers” is not the law.  You could technically leave, bury whatever out in the woods, beach wherever, and if someone takes it they technically stole it from you.   Even if you lost it.  It technically makes sense.  But 🤷‍♂️

22 hours ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Newbie here.  So I'm getting ready to train my customers at Rye Patch, NV and many will have their new GPX-6000's.  Here is my question for those of you who have learned.

Yes I've seen the video with the gator clips to a 12V vehicle battery, but what they don't say is for how long does it typically take?  Will it run a battery down in the winter cold of NV?

We'll be out there off the grid for 3 day and some of us much longer.  I'd like to get those have already figured out the timing and or a new way of charging the battery.

Funny thing is my 1 Ton diesel can charge my GPZ-7000 and my Equinox 800 with no issues and even when the truck is turned off.  I just plug into the outlets provided inside the truck dash.  My 1/2 ton gas truck only charges when the truck is running and as soon as I turn it off, all chargers go off as well.

Your help is needed so I can try and prepare my customers.

This salty dog is still learning new tricks on the GPX-6000... with your help that is.

Thanks in advance.

Just remember that Amps x Volts = Watts

The 6000 battery is 42Wh (Watt hours, don't worry about the hours).  The 12v plug or clips charges at 6W so it will take 7 hours to charge the battery from dead.  Don't worry about leaving it on longer.  Once it reaches capacity it will no longer drain off the larger battery.

The question now is, how many Watts is your truck battery.  I tested mine on a 500W Jackery battery, so I knew I would get 10 charges before the battery is depleted.  

The second question is, how long would it take running your trucks alternator (aka battery charger), to charge your truck battery back up to full.  

What I would do is when the truck battery is full, test with a volt meter.  Run it down charging a few 6k batteries (if you have the time), then test again with the volt meter to see the new level.  Run the truck maybe for 15 mins, turn off and check the truck battery again with the volt meter.  You should then be able to calculate how long it would take to run the truck to get back to the full volt meter reading and hence a full truck battery.  If you were to charge for 3 days I don't think you would have a problem, but bring jumpers.  You will have friends there 🙂

I would not advise using an inverter.  Those take energy to run to convert the DC to AC and still take the same amount of time.  The most efficient use is to charge with just DC.

I would love to go on a field trip with Chris around NV!  I have sent messages asking if he ever does anything like that (paid of ourse), but never got any responses.

I currently am using the wireless headphones more but in the summer preferred the external speaker.

what I really want is a WM12 wireless external speaker.  Or something  like the JBL Clip.

SDC2300 might be a good beach PI.  Waterproof and has salt settings.  I am gonna try mine this winter and try to find a new use for it now that i have a 6k

9 hours ago, Coiltek said:

Hey All - I can confirm we will definitely be making coils and release will be in first half of 2022.

Coiltek Quality - Fully Minelab Approved and no need to break a coil to make a coil.

We will be releasing more info on this in the coming months.

Stay safe everyone.

Trevor.

Yup I am also putting my vote in for a smaller coil.

In regards to pluging in any coil, you have to do that about 3 times.  Plug it in, screw on, push it in again, screw on further, third time its all the way pluged in tighten up.  I have had to do this with all my coils.  Might be an EMI source if not fully plugged in 🤷‍♂️

Oneguy - If you like the detector and can’t try any of the solutions of using someone else’s gear, don’t forget you have a 3 year warranty.  Maybe send it in for a diagnostic check. 🤷‍♂️

10 hours ago, araratgold said:

As an aside, I see more and more people complaining about the PITA coil twisting problem on the 6K, with some even resorting to sourcing carbon shafts and building their own lower stems, complete with locking pins ! Very poor for a detector costing 8K !

Rick

I have no problem with coil twisting and I am using the 17” now.  I think people who are having a problem are not tightening down hard enough. The shafts are carbon fiber you’re not going to break them tighten the clamp as tight as it can possibly get.  If you’re just weakly tightening it down then you are going to have some twist. Quite honestly if you wanted to drill a hole and put a pin in yourself it would not be a big deal but I think it defeats the purpose when you want to tighten up the cord by giving it a twist before engaging the locks. So far I’m satisfied with it.  Keep this in mind to if you think you can actually tighten it to the point where you’re going to break it it’s under warranty for three years! But if you drill the hole it’s probably not under warranty anymore.

I did this on my last hunt but all i got was lead.  Had a high/high on tiny lead and a low/low on a big slug.  Similar to what small and large gold “should” sound like.  I am waiting for a high/low or a low/high.   

On 9/13/2021 at 3:21 PM, LuckyLundy said:

Any Honda is a good Honda.  Not sure I know the Specs of the Pioneer 500.  But, my little 570 RZR fits right in the bed of my Pickup...so, I don’t have to worry about flat tires on a trailer too!😬

Hey Rick, I’m bringing my RZR out there in Nov.  Do you need any special permits for riding around on BLM trails?  Mine is all licensed and registered for road riding too in my state.  Thanks!

1 minute ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Manual sensitivity only goes up to 10. Auto+ can go above Manual 10 if conditions allow it to do so, typically in mild ground. That's where the "plus" comes from.

Its like in “Spinal Tap”. These go to 11!

16 minutes ago, GoldPanDan said:

I'm thinking nice bottle of whiskey! 😁

I like that better too.  Bottle of whiskey it is then!  Game on!

37 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

Nice writeup, Dan, and welcome to the forum!  Unfortunately, between you and Brian (and Gerry from his trip to bring you guys your GPX6000's), the word about detectable gold in SD is now out.  Well, Brian had told us before but it's a lot easier to write off one person blowing smoke. 

Definitely take Gerry's class.

There is one thing from your post that confused me -- was it a typo?

The only thing I can figure is that one of you had a cellphone battery die.

There is no gold in SD, we do all our hunting in WY.  
 

Yeah Dan killed it last weekend.  Deepest biggest gold yet I have seen yet with this machine!  Diet GPZ (or as Steve calls it GPZ Lite for you Euros) for sure in my book.  I really used to enjoy winning all the beer bets before Dan got a 6k.  Now he is taking my beer and my gold! 🤣  I keep telling him now that I should have never told you to get a quality detector, why the hell did your wife let you get one!!  🤣🤣🤣  Nah, Dan is great friend, detecting buddy and fellow researcher.  Good partner in crime for our gold fields.  Deserves the gold he is finding after for so long collecting dust.  And now an active DP community member to boot!  Now the next bet should be first one to find a 1+ ouncer gets a case!  Game on!