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Thanks for the wisdom. I am glad that we have the resources that you share both on the forums and you tube. I do have a test garden with all sorts of items, shell casings , nails, beer tabs,silver,etc...however it is behind a shed that has gardening stuff on rear wall and that had thrown a loop into the mix by it’s location relative to the first row of targets. I have to move that row of targets out to a different row. I guess from the previous world (figuratively speaking) I came from I relied on an explorer or garrett display and the tone had less value to me . I am also finding that I dig items that are close to the vid of good targets for fear of missing a hit, and then when I find it’s trash dig it, but had not really listened to the signature. I need to be aware of what I am hearing and put a description to the sound as opposed to digging because it may be a good target. Both very excellent suggestions. very open to all thoughts and methodology. Jim

Mark, and all of youQ. This is the type of thing that I had mentioned in one of my posts @ someone making a viideo with audio recorded (maybe in headset cup) about the tonal qualities that you hear when detectoring. “Like what an elongated tone is , what are falling tone edges? Perhaps there are media that goes into this, and I for one would be interested We all use different tones of art so to speak.. Another chirp from the prop!!! Your thoughts?

Thanks Alluminati, I am finding that raising the coil after a target hit, gives me an idea if this is indeed the point, and to your and others point it is pretty close to the center . Unfortunately trash can mislead what I am hearing and seeing and this detector issue new challenge over the others. Also on my last post I was wondering about recording target tones characteristics and should have added ,,,,,,,record and post to the forum or you tube tube,,,, as a training vid. jim

Well been out playing with the nox. I have definitely proven that too much info is a hinderance, however the videos on you tube by Quadruple bypass was on of the more informative .I think staying to one mode and one tone choice as one of the forum members recently stated is good info. I would ask others hw you can actually determine the size in pinpoint or discriminate mode? I was at a trash park, yesterday tabs, screw tops and looking for old coins as this location is a point the settlers set up a colony. The trash has been mowed into the lawn and has hard pack soil. I decided to dig a target that gave a clean signal in park 2 that was in the mid twenties. Ended up pulling a three inch Aluminum can top at approx. 8 " sweep and pinpoint caused me to believe it was a smaller target by the sounds and the pinpoint indicator closing at higher tone. It was a disappointing find. Sensitivity was cranked back to 19 I recall and ground balance was high with manual grd balance. Also, has anyone tried to record the target tone with regards to cut-off, sweeps and charecteristics of a clean target v Trash? The tonal sounds? " If it's a labor of futility, at least your working"

Chase, great information presented as well as all the others. Thanks

Well, did some more research on the pinpoint problems. Have not gotten out to the garden due to the rain. Great videos from a technical standpoint on you tube explaining the nuts and bolts of DD coils. Author posts under the name of Quadruple Bypass. Maybe I am a day late on this. But I thought I would pass it forward. Jim

Hi Steve; Thanks for the reply. Boy do I need to cx my eyesight! Good information that you present. I guess I read in one of the sites, that the sweet spot on the Nox was behind the front (tip) of the coil which technically it is if you go between the EQ and serial # decals. I believe the writer had inferred that his sweet spot reading was slightly back from the front. I became inclined to check to see if maybe I was missing something. I do use the X method however the variance of the tone may not be as noticeable to me as others. And that would be affected by the size and depth of the target I tend to use the meter with the tone in pinpoint mode. I understand the concept and can hear the signal near the Front Toe (better terminology). I find that the signal shows itself about one half inch or so from the front housing edge. My wiggle technique in search mode is less structured and it would behoove me to watch , I believe Marks Video? This is like playing a sport and coming in with bad habits!!!! On the Golf Tee, I think I will drill the end of some dowels and glue the tees in the dowel. Could even silicone coin to end. Different color tees for different depths if you want to go crazy. Thanks JIM

I am going to have to sit back and run my tests again in my test garden. It is easy to con yourself with to much info. I need to go back and reread the manual and articles. I think using one target at six inches as a basis (center marked with golf tee) would give one solid point to make basic pinpoint tests , and use that as a start point. Trying these tests on the surface may introduce a set of variables such as ghosting an such. I will read the articles that youve attached Steve and read some of the other insights. Jim

Thanks Cya.. Still trying to get around

Thanks been following the topics for a while.

I am becoming more befuddled on the Equinox 800 pinpointing . I come from the Explorer XS and Garrett GTI family of detectors an am having a bit of an issue. Some people have noted that the variation of pinpoint sounds can be a good indicator of size of the target. I tried a half penny (1916)that I threw on lawn and target was normal in descrim mode Park 2 5 Tone Sensitivity at 15. noise and ground balanced.. Set to pinpoint to dispel the assertion that targets were read off the tip of the coil. Turned pinpoint on and had signal High pitch at bpth the end of the coil and halfway. Toe was higher on both and meter closed on both points. I did not raise coil to test in that venue. I had trouble beach hunting especially when ferrous metal was in close proximity I have read several articles and watched you tube vids but many seem to be on clearer land and Beach (new Hampshire) than I. Perhaps I am getting to analytical and should refrain from using the pin pointer and relying on X marks the spot. This machine begs for additional info than the others I have used. I would love to learn more about this as I work it, and at this time I am using 5 tone. Great group hope I can add something.

Hey all! Old time detectorist from the Strafford Cnty Area New Hampshire and Seacoast. Own the Nox 800, Explorer XS, Garrett GTI1500. Member of Ring Finders. Retired and am a business mentor . Bought the new 800 to start and analyze a new business idea, and have gotten somewhat used to it, would like to hook up with somebody to be more competent with Beach hunting and some of the quirks of this machine as well as my explorer. I am an electronics RF engineer in my past life and hope to use some of this knowledge in understanding more about detectors. Hello to all and look forward to your experiences....JIM