Norvic

Top insights Gerry to start this this thread, I`ve not used iron reject/discrim at all in my 45 plus years, mainly because there is not any need for such out in the unworked fringes where an occasional horseshoe/nail/bullet/pellet is encountered. Aged legs are dictating those long searches in rugged country via shanks pony are near over so part of this season on day trips I`m amongst the junk in closer to the mines/settlements.

I will be following this thread with much interest to pick up any hints from those who work such areas that may help the Manticore or Axiom w/. DD score amongst the junk without losing what`s left of my sanity from our crazy fever. Young fellas get out into the unworked fringes whilst your legs can...... it can only drive you crazy but.... when you score... tis magic no.

New tech detectors give us these patches, the Z plus X coils CC were shown up by the 6K then along came the Gold Hawk now Xceed which shows there was life in those areas still, but if you`ve been around since the early VLFs then you know nothing has changed except tech advances uncover more continuously. The Electronic Gold rush goes on...... and may it do so for many years.............

On 5/13/2023 at 1:16 PM, mn90403 said:

Not stuck ... enjoying the good life and gold.

Nah I have got off to a very slow start to season, not even a scrap as yet...... virgin patch hunting with the Axiom out in the fringes, will weaken soon and visit an old patch for a hit.               Reckoned if I were inclined to travel overseas, Alaska would be the go with meeting Steve icing on that cake.

Love to be there but stuck downunder.....

Perhaps the Garrett Axiom is an alternate worth considering, good range of OEM coils, discrim. DD,  light, ergonomic, cordless, powerful with easy to get at settings. I cannot say how it would go as a relic detector, I only chase gold with it downunder here.

On ya GC got similar results with the Coiltek 10x5, waiting on son to get his 6K to run together before 6K upgrade. Still getting my head around the power of the Axiom, tis a magic machine with stabilty/extra punch in coils it seems only the aftermarket coils bring to ML. 

On ya Mn, way to go.

Seems I owe you an apology SS, thought it was you that taught nurse Paul his "slow down partner tactics" but it is clear was KL trained the lad. Haven`t seen a post from him for awhile, has KL censored him?

Aye from following FarTravellars posts he`s on the way to join that 5%.

Gold detecting is like fishing about 5% get about 95%, the reason being simple that 5% take little notice of the consensus, they hunt with a mindset discipline/purpose, was that way at the beginning of the electronic gold rush is still that way now.

GJ, that is funny but at the same time on the money, research all you wish, learn geological methods but that will only take you to where its been found by others before you, go where others believe it is a waste of time, if you spend the time/persistence/patience you`ll be rewarded, time and faith in yourself, your ability and your detector is all it takes. Tis simple as that, FarTraveller or is that too simple?😉

5 hours ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

You know how the joke goes.

Yeah gotta agree, but you dont know this until your an old bull and that`s no bull.... 😉 How many cows?????

Took almost 3years back in 81, had totally no idea at all, common comment from all people of my acquaintance was that you cannot find gold with a box full of wires and a bunch of knobs on outside of box. Found the usual ferrous rubbish, coins and other goldfield artifacts. I now know how incorrect that early perception was and that in those 3 years I went over many ounces. Detector was a Bounty Hunter RB7, the detector that hooked me proper was the Garret A2B. It proved that scraps/dinks make up the most gold weight of the goldfields in my part of OZ, that the big bits were few and far between, but no doubt they were adrenaline pumping finds. 

Metal-Detecting Drone Could Autonomously Find Land Mines - IEEE Spectrum

I have not experienced the clipped threshold as have notnoticed, but will pay more attention now you mentioned it. The Axiom like the 4500 requires settings adjustments to suit ground conditions to bring out their best whereas the SDC and the 6K are more "auto". I am like you and enjoy the new machine, it is proving to be very capable and I feel will excel in the hands of users that "tweak".

I also am only new on the Axiom I also have a 6K from when they were first introduced. My thoughts so far on audio re. threshold and sensitivity is volume also should be factored in, as these 3 go hand in hand eg. set the volume on 1, up the sensitivity to full, adjust the threshold to be nice and stable handling hot ground but in doing so you have effectively dumbed down the sensitivity somewhat. A happy medium between these 3 settings is used to handle various ground along with fine/normal. GT off mostly. I use Avantree Torus neckband on speaker with an aptX BT transmitter velcroed on the Axiom as I have grown to love the Torus from use on the 6K.

1 hour ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

"Gerry, all you do is selling a dream". 

Well way back a FNQ salesman sold me that dream, a Bounty Hunter RB7, many said I`m crazy then, "you cant find gold with a box of wire and knobs" I am still living that dream and I`ll lay a bet Gerry you have many customers who also live that dream and don`t look back except in appreciation. 

MN for me your response was spot on, that young fella had a dream, we dont know how far he will go with that dream even if the first step seems flawed to us, it is for him to sort out.

On ya MN. He obviously needs the dream.

Get it back inside and warm quick, bloody thing`ll freeze out there, tis only made not to melt downunder.

55 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

I'm confused.  What is the Carl/Tye debate?  Do you mean Carl Moreland, and who is Tye?

GB the past thread Steve attached to his last post, there is athe Carl/Tye debate.

Here is a bit of a experiment of say your Multi IQ detector, tune an AM portable radio into a weak station down around 600kHz first up, than see how close you can get your detector (detector on) walk around your radio receiver aim coil field at and away, see the effects on radios audio signal. If you`ve an Equinox and a Manticore handy you`ll see which allows you closest with detector coil field in same direction as that distant station transmitted signal. Now try it with the strongest fixed magnet you have handy. I am at a wee loss at Carl/Tye debate, both obviously know what they are on about. I understand as a user the magnetic properties of the detector coil field to some extent, also antennas as a HAM operator, mainly in practical terms, thus can see where Tyes coming from in above thread. My limited radio theory understanding tells me even a light bulb transmits more than just in the light frequency spectrum

Practically I know of this as I live in a fringe radio reception area and clearest closest AM station transmits on 558kHz and note detector effects when on because I usually have AM radio on in my workshop when buggarising around with detectors. The Manticore disrupts signal at more distance than the Nox. Tis cabin Fever induced interest fueled by always asking why is it so. Of course this is only a close to receiver effect and no way could it effect a planes receiver 100s of meters away or our detectors would be banned not just limited.

Yeah GJ reckon we enjoyed a similar path, couple of 1000k apart, age wise through a big leap in tech advances, detectors etc we are very privileged to enjoy this electronic gold rush journey. From memory think that first Magellan was around $1200 about 3ozs at that time, an oz hit $2800 AU recently which will buy 3 such much more advanced handheld GPSs.

A query re. InReach use, any users use the Mapshare feature and thoughts on it? Myself I`m a wee hesitant to use.

13 hours ago, phrunt said:

Sorry to burst your bubble Norvic but the GPX coils will not work on the Axiom even with the talents of a rocket scientist, Axiom coils even the mono coil are very different, on the plus side good things are happening for the Axiom.

 

 

Tell us more, would love to know the differences in Garretts Monos vs other PIs mono. X coil is involved yes/no

GC your not wrong about Garmin manuals, I started out in GPSs with the Magellans back in late 80s, early 90s. They were more user (read mug😉) orientated manuals and operation. But the Garmin Rino like Strick has found are magic for knowing where your mates are, anyway was the Rino that swung me over to Garmin. I`ve found this site GPSrChive very handy for sorting out Garmins "double dutch". Shame Garmin hasn`t updated the Rino with InReach other than it syncs with InReach devices, I think, Son has my Rino presently working with his Son, getting him infected with gold fever.

PIA this Garmin Australia Site sets out the various subscription options for InReach. inReach® Consumer Subscription Plans | Garmin I`ve gone with the $20/mth annual plan.

Yeah Strick I started looking at the Mini2 and Messenger then up... 66i, 700i and Tread, finally decided on the 700i sort of still a handheld (big one) display is tops for old eyes. For me the Birdseye view maps overlayed over the Toppo give you a good idea of where to walk into some country, stopped using the Yamaha Viking as the tracks were like neon signposts for others to follow in FNQ AU heavy grassed areas. Gone back to walking about, usually following narrow Brumby trails (wild horse) with detector on, pushing ahead not swinging much, linear detecting which time has proved pays in my backyard.