PSPR

I've got the v1.09 installed and also the Threshold Volume Update.  When they refer to "Resetting" the Legend after the update do they mean:

1. Holding down the Power/Settings buttons for 30 seconds?  Or

2. Holding the Pinpoint button Until Fd appears on the screen? Or

3. Both?

UPDATE:  I think I figured it out.  I couldn't get the Fd to appear until I did a reset by holding down the Power/Settings button for 30 seconds.  I think I am OK now with the update.

1 hour ago, DSMITH said:

you can do this to the buttons to make them easier for you to see makes a huge difference

used a paint pen, purchased a whole set of like 20 different colors on amazon for less then $10

Thanks, DSMITH.  I'm going to do that.  Nokta should send them out with those highlights.

1 hour ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Not in anyway making a suggestion here. This is just what I did in the beginning.

I spent a few hours setting my Legend up for US modern clad by using 6 tones and setting up an audio tone bin for each major coin type with the volume level and actual pitch that I wanted to use that I could remember in the field. I got to learn some of the inner, hidden menus that way too along with just basic navigation and the pitch recognition for each coin type also let me just listen first. I also just hunted in Park M1 with recovery speed 4 or 5, iron filter on 3 or 4 for many, many hours using the G=ground discrimination pattern which helped to silence my hot dirt. I always did a noise cancel and ground balance and I learned how to use the Ferro Check meter for shallow iron and mixed alloy steel targets. 

Pinpointing a target with the onboard pinpoint function and then rechecking it using the best onboard pinpointer location for it also improved the target IDs a bit too. 

Have fun.

Thanks, Jeff.  I'll work on trying that as I learn the menu.  I've got to get these buttons painted so I can see what I'm doing first!!  LOL

I ordered a Nokta Legend to give me something modern to learn while waiting for my Manticore.  I studied the manual a bit then put it on my knee while I learned the menu a bit more.  I noticed that you can't see the buttons unless you have a light shining right on them or are outdoors in the daylight.

Anyway, I tested it on a few coins and other targets and got a general idea of what was where on the ID scale.  I didn't think there was anything worthwhile left in my yard after being over it years ago with other detectors.  But I did uncover a shallow aluminum can.  I should have recognized that for a can but it was the only thing that came in as high as 45.  When I had the pool put in I discovered that the Mexican workers didn't throw their cans in the trash.  They would just bury them in the dirt they hauled in.  That's not the first can I've dug up in my yard!!  (No offense to any Latinos here.)  I've also got a lot of copper wires running around the yard for sprinklers and pool features, etc. that aren't too deep and I tried to avoid those. 

I had forgotten how much of a pain it is to dig in this Texas clay when it is wet.  It sticks to your shoes, your digging tools, your hands and anything else that happens to touch it.  It took half an hour to clean all the clay off my Leach shovel under the hose.  I also had to maneuver around the dog pooh I hadn't picked up for a week.  LOL  I did find a few of my things on the surface that the dog took outside and chewed up!  She has chewed up expensive electronic things and shoes in the past.  Fortunately, these items were not too expensive.  She is off getting spayed today so she wasn't available to help dig.  Yeah, they called and she is doing fine after her procedure. 

I think I'll try a lake beach next time.  It's easier to scoop sand than dig in wet Texas clay.

6 hours ago, Cal_Cobra said:

haha nah not scared in the least, just find it to be a waste of time.  He did the same thing after poo pooing the Equinox, but then wanted to flag and check signals with his Exp2 vs my EXQ800.  No need to waste valuable hunt time flagging and checking signals when you can compare notes at the end of the hunt. 

Invokes the old saying "you can lead a horse to water..." you know the rest 😉

I really have no problem checking targets with fellow detectorists using different machines.  We used to do that all the time on iffy targets just to get a different opinion of whether we should dig it or not.  Of course, the two of you need to be in close proximity or you really are wasting time.

11 hours ago, rled2005 said:

I haven't seen the 2d screen separation of a small nugget with a square nail, screw, or iron object. They're in close in detection range, but can the Manticore separate them on the screen? This hasn't been shown by the reps, that I have seen. 

rled2005, I don't know which video it was but on one of them where they turned a potential buyer loose with a Manticore in a field in Europe does show just that.  There was a target on the conductive line and another target on the same screen making a blob up in the iron range.  It wasn't gold but the idea was the same.  How well it does that with gold we are yet to find out.

5 hours ago, phrunt said:

But to me, this doesn't seem like a product going to be mass produced and released for sale in November 😞

Nor December.   Looks like 2023 as those experienced with these shenanigans have said.  "sigh"

3 hours ago, Carolina said:

If your scared, say your scared. 😃

It's becoming obvious that you are a D2 fan girl.  Go to the XP forum so you can share with other fan boys and girls.

Cool ring.  Dual Manticores!

2 hours ago, Sinclair said:

That's probably going to take another 10 years .. 🤣

I've been very close getting a Deus 2.. I guess its clever to wait, even if its hard ☺️
Up to now I'm not 100% convinced with neiter machine.

I've been told that the Deus III will come with an automatic digger feature.  Just push a button and it will retrieve the target.  

35 minutes ago, rled2005 said:

All that I saw was the CTX 3030 with a free coil.

I noticed 2 or 3 just in the right hand "Classifieds" column of this page, if they haven't scrolled off yet.

I noticed there are some Minelab specials with free coils, etc.  happening right now.  I was just wondering what if Minelab runs a Black Friday special on Manticore pre-orders.  Do we all cancel our existing Manticore order and place a new one with another dealer to get the discount or free extra coil or whatever or do we just call our existing dealer and ask for the special?

I'm beginning to realize that the best detecting location is the backyard of metal detector owners.  Just find their test bed and dig up those targets!!  Sounds like a good way to find coins, rings and jewelry fairly consistently.  LOL 

I know I left a small gold ring in the back yard of the house we sold in Florida when we moved to Texas.  My detector was packed away and I dug out the spot I buried it but couldn't find the gold ring without a detector or pinpointer!!!  My loss.

1 hour ago, UtahRich said:

That is certainly A possible solution.  I would rather not be gluing the controller to the search rod when i go water hunting.  

UtahRich -

 

 

Silicone is pretty flexible after it dries and can generally be pealed off a surface.  A little testing with a tube of it would be in order before using it.

7 minutes ago, rled2005 said:

When paying that kind of money, why should anyone have to "Gerry rig" or modify anything? These manufacturers should concentrate on quality instead of quick production. Hopefully this is why Minelab has waited this long.

I agree.  But those who already own it need to do something in certain cases.

This is what passes for a Minelab Manticore test video on Youtube lately.

16 minutes ago, UtahRich said:

 

......And a controller that can be knocked off the search rod rather easily in my hunting conditions. Come on XP, you can do better than this for a "water detector"........

 

I've heard people say putting a little clear silicone jell in the D2 slot that holds the Remote Control will keep it from falling off.  Just give it a day to setup after applying.

It seems nobody has any more new available.  Might be able to find one used on eBay for anyone looking for one.  I gave up and ordered a Fisher instead but it does have side sensitivity. 

You sound like a professor, GB.  Is this an essay question for credit for those experienced? 

I also noticed the Legend going dark.  I'm glad I know about that before mine arrives.

I've heard that the Apex is difficult until you figure it out.  Garrett needs to up their game in the VLF area.

21 minutes ago, UtahRich said:

 

So GB, are you thinking the Minelab Aurora would be a good choice ?  I like the Minelab Meteor, easier to pronounce and has a greater impact.   🙂

 

Rich - 

I think they wanted the name of a fierce creature to slay the competition just as the detector will.  LOL

8 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said:

So does the original Deus. 
 

Chase and I own the Equinox, Legend and Deus 2. We know how good they really are. We aren’t likely to snap at you for taking a jovial swing at any of them. Others on this forum might however especially some Deus 2 high powered owners or people who are going nuts waiting for their beastie. So get ready to duck if you disparage Deus 2 or the Mantis.  

LOL.  Did you see my post where I ordered a Legend (The Lagard? Just Kidding) while I'm waiting for my Manti (Or is it the Mongoose now)?  I've been reading about your park hauls with it!!  I ordered the Pro Pack so I would have a machine with a small coil incase I find a place to search where I would need it.  I'll see how it goes.

I think you are in the Denver area.  I should send you the coordinates for that silver dime spill I found 40 years ago that I left some there.  Its probably gone by now though.

2 minutes ago, Carolina said:

Has nothing to do with a perceived assault of the superiority of the Deus ll detecting ability. Others have tried to explain to you, from day one, it is simply a jab at a truly funny name for a metal detector. And no one can compare the two detectors as one is out in the wild and one is not. Most everyone no matter what they swing agrees, it’s a weird a$$ name. 😃

I believe ya!  I said I was just messing with ya. 

48 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

See below.  Ignore the fact that the TID stays constant at 78 regardless of the target displayed.  The more stable the target ID the more "linear" the "oval" remains.  I think slope in either "hemisphere" corresponds to target ID.  I don't use the feature because I get more information from the target audio, but I might experiment more with it, in the future.

That's interesting.  One would have to experiment with it to see if it has value.  Since the oval isn't always an oval it could provided some very useful ID info.  Funny that nobody ever talks about this.  I didn't even know the Deus II had this feature.

14 minutes ago, steveg said:

PSPR -- don't take too much offense, LOL! 

Not offended at all, Steve.  I realize it is just a playful messing with odd names.  I too thought Manticore was an odd name when I first heard it.  But I do see the variations come from more people who have a Deus II and must feel the Manticore is an assault on the detecting superiority of the Deus II right now.  Psych 300 is interesting.  

56 minutes ago, Carolina said:

Again JMHO. MY $1500 fairly new machine is killin it so no Montycure in my future. 

I think most here with a new D2 would probably do the same.  You can't just go around dropping $1600 every time a new detector comes on the market.  If I had bought a D2 I wouldn't be in the market for a Manticore right now either.  But I do think giving silly names to detectors you have no intention of buying is a bit childish.  Should we call the Deus II the Dump2?  LOL  (Just messing with ya)