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In the depth air tests I've done, the faster I moved the coin, the deeper I could hit it. Ditto when I hone in on an in ground target and do the fast wiggle. But ya, I would be concerned about the masked deep stuff as well. With that said, with these very fast detectors of today, I don't think the old adage of, "Slow right down on trashy sites", is quite as relevant as it used to be.

Liam from History Revisited has got a video in which he lines up a bunch of elevated nails with coins in between them. They are all close together, and it was surprising to see how fast he could swing and still get his Legend to hit the coins. At the end of the video, he swings back and forth way faster than Paystreak swings, and he was still able to hit the coins. So???? With that said, my arm would fall off if I swung as fast as Paystreak. I'm certain he has bionic arms😁

Paystreak runs his D2 and Legend at maximum recovery speed. As such, I'm thinking his swing speed is ok.

I just watched about the first half of the video. It's close to midnight where I am, the ground is frozen, and I've delved into a bit of alcohol to appease my digging addiction. Despite that, I think he keeps saying that the Vanquish has selectable single frequencies. Whaaa???

A good way to determine if the issue is interference, is to try the SF modes. If the noise decreases when in SF modes, the problem is interference.

You were in a single frequency mode. Some features are not applicable to single frequency modes 🙂

One of the two sites I hunt in which SMF performance is very poor, is a site that has massive high voltage "power towers" on it. My 540 was useable if I wanted to lose about 50% depth. My Simplex at 12 khz, and Silver uMax at 10 khz was a little better than the 540. It wasn't until I got a Legend and used it at 20 khz that I could detect the site with no noise and respectable depth.

In my low mineralized ground, I get a little better depth and target ID accuracy when using SMF. Thing is, due to EMI and the openness of SMF, EMI noise and detector instability is massively increased. I have 2 inner city sites in which I have to reduce the sensitivity to the point that it negates the benefits of SMF. As such, I choose a SF (typically 15 khz or higher) and can run maximum or close to maximum sensitive with no noise or instability. Part of the reason why I sold my Vanquish 540, was I underestimated the effects of EMI on SMF, and the 540 had no SF modes to choose in high EMI.

Jeff, For many reasons, I disagree with you on the intent of the video, but whatever. I really don't want to get into that kind of subjectivity 🙂 Thank you for duplicating the test on the Legend and D2. I don't have a D2, but I put my legend through lot of various tests (especially unmasking tests). As such, I knew that the Legend could easily hit those good targets without even coming close to having to max out the recovery speed, and/or dropping the IB to minimum. If indeed that has to be done on the 800 to hit those targets, then that's quite a surprise to me. The guy in the video never adjusted the 800, but you did. So what I'm going on now, is your word. To me, your test results suggest that the 900, Legend, and D2 are significantly more efficient at ferrous unmasking than the 800 is. If that is true, I sure would like to know why that is.

Well, you have to decide if you want to cherry pick only the coin signals OR go for gold as well. As you know, if you want gold, then you'll have to dig massive amounts of foil, pulltabs, and aluminum bottle caps.

Sirius, I think I'd rather stick toothpicks under my fingernails than use a coil as large as the LG35 on a trashy site 😁 Definitely get the 6" on, and notch out the tab range if you're cherry picking coins. The tab range can very depending on a few factors, but in general it's normally around the 28-32 range. Maybe notch in nickels, then notch out the numbers right above nickel and up to around 35? EDIT...and of course notch out everything below nickels 🙂

Why Quest Metal detectors isn't popular in America. The Fake the Fraud and The Facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3tCWMxNT6k

It's the new "Silent Audio" feature.

Minelab X-TERRA Pro Metal Detector: What We Know So Far - Serious Metal Detecting (seriousdetecting.com) Selectable SF is a "standout" feature? 🙄 "This is different from their SMF detectors that run all frequencies at the same time". Wasn't it shown that those detectors only transmit 2 frequencies? What happened to the Nox's SMF obsoleting SF detectors? What's going on here? It's almost as if Minelab went into "desperation" mode, because the Codan shareholder's told them to "Throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks".

I'm really looking forward to seeing what they have up their sleeve for their PI, even though I have no use for a PI 🙂 I see quite a few posts about many wanting a submersible PI. Is there no such thing currently on the market?

That's it exactly D. I repair computers for a living, and an intermittent lock up is the worst possible problem (by far) that a computer tech encounters. Like you said, what caused the lock up? It could be anything. Bad ram, a defective hard drive, a defective hardware driver, a defective component on the motherboard, a bad solder joint anywhere, a bad battery, etc, etc, etc.

I've had my Legend lock up once. But it was cold, at night, and I had thick gloves on. Due to that, I think I pressed 2 buttons at the same time that caused the lock up.

Ha ha, I see your point. I've never even looked at any of the time stuff, so I figured he was going into some "time" setting that I always just ignored 😁

That is sooo true Cal. Due to the low cost, many Nokta detector owners are new to the hobby. That's why so many of the "issues" reported are actually the user's lack of knowledge. Then again yes, I also see so many questions from users that aren't newbies, but clearly didn't bother reading the manual.

D, I was referring to the specific issue of freezing when going into the time tracking option. Other than raziel posting about it, I've never heard of it before. But yes, the update issues that I have read about, have been mainly resolved by re-installing the update. It seems sometimes the install gets buggered up for some reason.

Sirius, For some reason, I don't seem to have many beaver tails in my area. I mostly encounter those rectangular types of tabs. There are a few varieties of those rectangular tabs, and they ID around the 28-32 range. Nickels ID at 25 and 26. It's just something you might want to keep in mind when notching. Also, the higher conductor coins ID at around 40 for zinc pennies up to around 52 for quarters.

It depends on the size of the aluminum and how close it is to the coil. For example, if small foil reads just above ferrous, and it's masking a high conductor coin, then frequencies below around 8 khz will ID the coin almost as if the foil wasn't there. Once around 10 khz and above, that same coin will ID much closer to the small foil (just below the nickel range). I did experience some lone aluminum bottle caps having a much higher than normal ID when using very low frequencies.

Hmmm. Yes, the caveat to using such a low frequency, does mean that aluminum can ID very high. In my experience though, it didn't happen very often.

There seems to be a trend with using low weighted SMF to sniff out coins in nonferrous trash. The Legend's new Park M3 is weighted even lower than the Nox's Park 1. I suspect that the weighting of the Legend's M3 is similar to the D2's and Manti's high conductor mode. Above and beyond that, if I was cherry picking coins in nonferrous trash, I would choose a SF no higher than about 7 or 8 khz. Once the frequency goes higher than about 7 or 8, the coins masked by nonferrous trash will often read below the nickel range. With frequencies lower than that, then those same coins ID almost as if the nonferrous trash wasn't there. As such, I can see how 6.4 khz on your Tarsacci would work wonders in nonferrous trash,.

Or maybe something is wrong with your 800 Jeff 😁 Hey, at least you made the changes on the 800 to get it to detect the desired target. The guy in the video did none of that. Take for example the 800 with the ring behind the nail. The 800's iron bias was very close to hitting that ring. He mentioned something about it almost hitting the ring. Anyway, I bet if he had dropped the IB by 1, or perhaps even 2 steps, the 800 would have hit the ring. I'll have to watch it again to see what frequencies were being used, as the frequency weighting will play a role as well.