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You're welcome. I thought it was really cool as well. Excellent production and a really catchy tune 🙂

Herr. I haven't seen any reports like that. EMI is changing all the time. Are you sure it's not EMI? You can tell if it's EMI by holding the coil away from the ground, then trying the single frequencies. If the noise stops or gets much quieter, then it's EMI.

Maybe get a WR-1 shipped to a member in the US, and then they can ship it to you?

Legend coil weights with the cable and coil cover.

Me too. I didn't know a heck of a lot of detectorists back when I started detecting about 30 years ago, but no one I knew, or saw in a detecting magazine, was using a shovel in public locations. Then the internet and detecting videos came along, and not only was I taken aback at how many detectorists were doing that, but I was also appalled.

Paystreak normally uses the 6" coil on his Legend, and recently got the LG24 coil. He now says that he will be using the LG24 most of the time, and calls it a "park killer". I'll be getting mine soon, but still have to wait 2 to 3 months before the ground thaws. Stupid winter! lol...no wait...😢

Thanks for that West Jersey. Yet another clue that the BCR is an extension of the IF, is that just like IF, BCR doesn't work in SF modes.

Found this video of Nokta production: Video Tour Of The Production At Nokta/Makro (Interesting And Informative!) – Hobby Detecting Blog (hobby-detecting.com)

Definitely Kryptonite.

I agree with the busy bodies in certain situations. For example, curb strips in front of residential houses that are well taken care of by the home owner. A more specific example, is a YouTuber I won't name. He has a video of walking into a nice residential area and then starts digging holes with his shovel on the resident's well taken of and pristine curb strip. Needless to say, people angrily confronted him. He replied with the usual, "It's a public place...the house owner doesn't own it...I can legally do this...blah blah blah". Then he eventually leaves just to start using his shovel on the neighbors well kept curb strip! Just because I can detect at a certain site, doesn't mean I do. Although the irony in the YouTuber's rant about it being legal, is that it's illegal just about anywhere to dig on public property. But, usually no one cares provided that you do it with tact and discreetness. With all that said, I have climbed fences at night to get into construction sites on public property. No fence is going to stop me from detecting on a 170 year old site that has the top few inches of ground removed 😁

I've never been challenged either, but the vest is a good deterrent for such things, and it's especially a good deterrent for those sketchy park people that I mentioned. On a side note, maybe I've never been challenged because I'm not in public places carrying a shovel? I use a sharpened Predator Raptor hand trowel, and am very discreet and fast with target recovery. I go down on one knee, and with short plunges, quickly dig a hinged plug and pry it up. Basically, my target removal is quick and well hidden.

Near the end of last summer, I started to wear a worker's safety vest, and now I almost always wear it. Not just because of the busy bodies, but for sites like this: A park dating back to the late 1800's that has had constant events including sport's events and fairs. Unfortunately, the park is full of addicts but does have two security guards there from dawn to dusk, 7 days a week. It's not exactly safe to go in that park during the day, and life threatening to go in there at night. Anyway, I really wanted to hunt that park, but always avoided it because of the danger. Then I thought of using the vest, did so, and it was awesome! The finds were excellent (including surface finds), never did an addict come close to me, and the security guards just gave me a wave as they passed by. I ended up talking to the security guards, and they thought I was some sort of city worker looking for water pipes or sprinklers 🙂 I told them what I was doing, and all they did was wish me luck. EDIT: I forgot to add the most important part lol. That is, the security guards told me the addicts won't go near me as long as I wear the vest. Yep, that was my plan 🙂

Given that with the LG24, one can typically raise the sensitivity more than the LG 28, as well as the LG24 having far superior separation and unmasking ability, then it could be argued, that in many, if not most situations, the LG24 will find more goodies than the LG28

Ha ha. That's exactly what I thought when I saw that. I saw the video mere minutes after he posted it. I fully expected it to be taken down in a day or so, and a possible lawsuit happening. I mean, he outright claimed a company is lying based on poor evidence and incomplete technical knowledge. If it was me, I would have titled the video as, "IS Minelab lying to us?". That one extra word would wash my hands of any legal repercussions.

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Kind of similar: On a different site, I recall some guy telling people not to bother checking the stones on silver rings because, "No one puts valuable stones in silver rings". I couldn't find a facepalm large enough to reply with.

Well I couldn't wait, and just tried that test as I described. I put 3 rusty nails on a dime and adjusted the IB to get a good nonferrous response. Then, I started raising the BCR and I started getting a ferrous response. So ya, it seems to me that BCR is a higher end extension of the IB. EDIT: I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but Nokta slightly increased the higher end of the IB at the same time they introduced BCR (even higher extension of the IB?).

That's exactly how I understand IB, except for the randomness part. What randomness? The way I understand it, is the iron bias is the ratio number between the ferrous and nonferrous signal. For example, a nail on its own would have a signal that consists of 99% ferrous and 1% nonferrous, and a nail on top of coin would have a signal that consists of 95% ferrous and 5% ferrous. So when the IB is changed, it changes what % of nonferrous to accept, to decide to give a ferrous or nonferrous signal. When I have some time tonight, I'm going to put a nail or two on a coin, have BCR at 0 and drop the IB until I get a nonferrous signal. Then I'm going to raise the BCR and see if the nail/coin starts to read as ferrous. I get the feeling it will.

Thanks for that Bodhi. That explanation sounds just like how iron bias works. More specifically, comparing the ferrous to nonferrous ratio in the signal to determine if the detector should give a ferrous or nonferrous indication. So ya, that seems to be more evidence that the BCR is an extension of the iron bias.

I'm referring to averaging as in, "a single complex target that gives multiple ID numbers, is then averaged to give one ID number. For example, if an irregularly shaped object like a bent object, gives the ID as 23-24-25-26-27, does the ID stabilization feature just average it and display only 25 as the ID? If so, I wouldn't want it.

Pretty much no foil, no bottle caps, and no pulltabs. To me that's a blessing site. I would much rather have a site with ferrous trash than nonferrous trash.

I doubt the LG24 will have that much less depth than the stock coil. Plus, compared to the stock coil, it's a heck of a lot lighter, far superior for unmasking and separating, and less prone to EMI and ground noise which allows it to be run at a higher sensitivity than the stock coil.

It's odd that Andy has tested the detector for a few months, but didn't even mention the gyro in that write up. Anyway, I'm guessing that the ID stabilization is ID averaging. If I recall correctly, I think someone in this thread thought the same thing as well. I don't mean averaging as in "averaging the ID of two targets", but rather averaging as in, "a single complex target that gives multiple ID numbers, is then averaged to give one ID number. If it does use a gyro for ID stabilization, then these two things come to mind: 1) There shouldn't be any need to use a moving mechanical device (a gyro) to stabilize the ID. It could be done much more easily and much more reliably with software. For example, a line of code can be written that basically says, "If three or four consecutive ID numbers are detected in 1/10th of a second, then average them and produce one ID. 2) Averaging the ID seems like "dumbing down" the ID. In other words, less information about the target.

Me either. I also seriously question the authenticity of the map. I mean, if you have a treasure map, why would you release it to the public? And not just because it means you just gave away a valuable map, but also because of putting others lives at risk, and causing mayhem for a small village.

It's a safety feature. When you've detected for too long, the gyro senses that you're almost falling over and turns off the detector.