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  1. 3 hours ago, markinswpa said:

    I tried several times but was not able to get them to reset.

    That may be the problem.  If you can't reset them per the Avantree instructions, there may be a corruption issue with the Audition pro firmware.  This may manifest as a problem pairing with some devices while having no issue pairing with others.  Be patient and wait well beyond the 5 to 7 seconds.  Also, the "pink flash twice" signal that they have reset may be very brief or hard to see.  Good luck.

  2. 2 hours ago, iron_buzz said:

    I spent far too many years on another MD forum hoping to get that sort of information.  The one person that was in that group that gave good information left it some time ago.  I'm glad that I recently discovered this group.  Looking forward to some more in-depth learning!

    Maybe they ended up over here.  😉

  3. 8 hours ago, phrunt said:

    He even wrote the book on it 😛

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    Yep.  I own it and read it.  When Carl (Geotech) pops in here to share his technical wisdom on detectors, I just read and absorb the nuggets and thank him for sharing.  He's forgotten more than I'll ever know. As a trained engineer I can somewhat understand and explain the technical concepts but I am not a designer like Carl who can make these concepts come alive in your hands.

  4. 17 hours ago, Digalicious said:

    Once coils get above that 13" to 15" range, it's about extra coverage, not extra depth on coin sized objects.

    Exactly and as Phrunt said previously, if it’s coverage you are after (and buying into the physics that determines that there is a round coil diameter above which results in minimal depth gain per inch/cm coil diameter increase for a coin or ring sized target), an elliptical coil form factor gives you that additional coverage at a substantially lower weight penalty and with roughly equivalent depth vs. a round coil with a diameter that is the same as the length of the long axis on an elliptical coil.

  5. 3 hours ago, Geologyhound said:

    Now, I am guessing any app with maps will be limited to the maps in the database which may be further limited by cell connection or freely available maps you can download for off-line use.  I would think it would be a fantastic feature if you could have a GPS app reference user-supplied pictures/drawings/maps.  If you could two-finger rotate and scale, or tap two points of current reference and two points on the figure to automatically overlay, I could see that being immensely helpful - especially in areas where cell reception is not available to maintain a link to a map server.

    Since you stated that it lacks capability compared to other commercially available GPS MD apps, I thought you had some detailed, specific insights on preferred apps for MDing beyond the iOS map app.  

    The capability/feature you described in the quote above actually already exists in an app called Maprika, now called GPS on Ski as it was originally designed to accommodate ski map overlays. But I have used it to overlay old Topos and Historic maps and to track my position relative to those historic maps.

    I primarily use OnX apps, however.  Recently switched from Onx Hunt to Onx Backcountry both of which permit a number of different overlays and other data layers including property lines, private property landowner identification from publicly available property tax databases, weather, and wildfire information.  I would think the “accuracy” would be more a function of the phone’s GPS chipset and firmware than the app.  The tracking on Onx is is very good.

    Not sure XP will ever release the Go Terrain app in the US. Tthey’ve been promoting it for years, have had several false starts, and have had it available in Europe for over a year.  I’ve kind of moved on because of the numerous failures by XP to deliver on this.

    Other apps I have tried include Tect O Track and Cal Topo.

    Perhaps some of the above apps were used by your club member.

  6. 40 minutes ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

    I have received emails from a few dealers aying they were expecting them in stock in the first couple of weeks in November. However I think I'll wait until the first reviews come in. I wonder if it's going to be updatable.

    It is updateable.  Beta users were promised an update to the final released version.

    This balanced and thorough review convinced me that it can’t be any worse than the Quest X-pointer Maxand a great backup to the MI-6 or primary pointer when not using my D2.

  7. On 10/25/2023 at 2:09 PM, phrunt said:

    If you do go with the Carrot option go with the Pro Pointer AT (orange), not the Pro Pointer II (black) 

    I have both are the AT is far better especially when it comes to sensitivity.

     

    By definition, the Carrot IS the orange Pro Pointer AT (ALL Terrain, meaning waterproof).  The non-AT Pro Pointer II is not considered a Carrot variant because...well...it's black.  Lol.  But, Simon, I understand what you were driving at with the caution to the OP as these similar sounding product names do cause confusion.

  8. 19 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said:

    REM sleep for me......

    I dreaming that Coiltek goes in the opposite direction and makes a decent small elliptical for Manticore slightly larger than the M8 (something like their Nox 5×10 which is a great general purpose coil for polluted, highly mineralized relic and coin sites) 

    18 hours ago, phrunt said:

    Excitement from me! Shame the same level of support isn't going into the Manticore.  

    I hope they make it lighter, there is no way the 15" Coiltek Nox coil needs to be as heavy as it is.

     

    The ML Equinox 15" elliptical is plenty deep and has a great footprint area to weight ratio.  At some point you hit a depth wall with VLF machines and large, round coil sizes where the depth performance plateau's due to ground feedback effects, you lose even small coin sensitivity at moderate depths, and all you get is coverage at a huge weight penalty.  So that 30% depth gain claim seems dubious unless you're talking a PI machine.  Coiltek's gotta rethink their PI mentality that bigger is better for round VLF coils.  Their mid-size Nox elliptical would be a great general purpose coil if they didn't narrow cast it solely for water hunting by intentionally adding weight to it.

  9. 7 hours ago, Shelton said:

    Okay next thing EMI cancel feature with Deus II is only a random channel selection. The software does not analyze anything, it just selects a random channel. If the choice is bad, press again, and maybe you'll be lucky this time... Of course with the other devices you have the same problem. Only Manticore working in a different way.  

    Please show me where it is documented that D2 frequency search is random.  My personal experience has run counter to that assertion as I have never encountered a case where it made the situation worse (which would be the case if it were truly random), and only once or twice was it unable to make things appreciably better.  As far as I am concerned it is the most effective implementation of reduced EMI frequency search and I have owned several Detectors with the feature.  The Nox's are not very effective and do seem to be the most likely to be random (though I doubt even they are).  The Manticore in my experience is better than the Nox's in this regard but not as good as the the D2 but that might be a function of the D2's overall better EMI immunity than the Minelabs. FWIW.

  10. 20 hours ago, longbow62 said:

    Part 2 is on the Minelab YouTube channel. I don't see where the assumptions of a possible pending update are coming from, unless somehow I missed something.

    The Manticore launch was pretty decent I think. There were no real serious bugs since release. I could be wrong, but I kinda doubt there will be much more updating. I personally wish they had a full time team devoted to improving detector performance through software updates, but I seriously doubt they do.

    Well, ML has already released one update since launch to address bugs (serious or not) and introduce new features, but that update appeared to have been a setback for some folks under certain detecting conditions, so some have reverted to the original firmware.  So a potential update may be addressing those issues introduced in the first update.  Also, it appears that ML is seeking FCC approval for a new wireless "WM-09" module to address limitations associated with the ML proprietary stock ML-85/ML-105 wireless phones which are the only ones compatible with Manticore/Equinox 700/900/X-Terra Pro detectors, so the update may be addressing compatibility with that new wireless module.  This new wireless module may be what is being referred to in the schlocky "Unleash the Beast" marketing slogan.SmartSelect_20231021_070618_AdobeAcrobat.thumb.jpg.a1ae88c865896ac232de32a5917c59fd.jpg

  11. 7 hours ago, strick said:

    If you hunt polluted areas such as modern parks and trashy beaches and every time you dig a target you think to yourself this is a gold ring then you will be wrong thousands of times. If you hunt the same areas and dig a target and say to yourself this will be a piece of aluminum you will be right thousands of times...and when you are right thousands of times then you begin to think you are a bad ass and can tell the difference between gold from aluminum...I've seen lots of bad asses on the internet. 

    strick

    Agree but I have an alternate related take on this "phenomenon". 

    Agreed it is near impossible to tell the difference between gold rings and aluminum junk, especially pull tabs.  Those who say they can are indeed fake bad asses. Similarly, iron discrimination and notches and even target IDs are not foolproof and can lie to you.  You're never really 100% sure what you have until it's out of the ground and you can actually see it.

    But mindset and positive attitude are important because they affect your ability to concentrate effectively on what your machine is telling you.  If you are "in the zone" - in sync with your machine and nail a few keepers early on or a good run in the middle of a session, the resulting confidence can linger and make it seem like the good targets are just popping out of the ground even though your treasure to trash ratio hasn't actually changed significantly overall.   On the flip side, if you are fighting your machine, experiencing audio fatigue or EMI, getting skunked and are tired, hungry, dehydrated or distracted by your surroundings, the junk targets start to dominate your attitude and the experience becomes a drag.  

    One way to combat the doldrums is to keep your attitude positive and steady.  The best way I have found to do this is set expectations accordingly.  If you are going to "play the odds" and skip targets your machine is telling you are junk then be honest with yourself that you are likely going to leave a few keepers behind and be sure you are OK with that for the sake of expediency (i.e., cherry picking) or because you know you'll have another shot at the site.  Similarly, if you hit a signal that can be either gold or aluminum, set your expectations according to the odds.  Tell yourself that you are verifying this is really a pull tab.  You are either going to be exactly right or wrong and pleasantly surprised.  If you tell yourself it's a possible ring every time, you set yourself up for a lot of disappointment.  FWIW.

    I had a similar experience to Compass but relic detecting.  Apologies to all who have heard this one already.  At a heavily detected relic site that hosted several group hunts and that was primarily detected with PI Detectors due to soil conditions, I decided to focus on an area near power lines and where roadside trash, especiall aluminum cans, had accumulated.  The detectorists with PI machines avoided these areas.  I took my Deus 2 and started paying my dues. I knew I was going to dig A LOT of cans and canslaw but felt that there might be a gem hiding in all that trash.  I was right.  I eventually dug a both pieces of a fractured US Civil War breast plate basically rung up no different than the junk aluminum cans and a NY regimental coat button and some other brass and lead targets.  This wasn't skill but perseverance and a positive attitude that something good had to be hiding in the trash based on the amazing targets that were pulled out of the adjacent no trash, no EMI sections of the battlefield.20221224_121716.thumb.jpg.9a870ee4f6736479e619b19f8119c55d.jpg

    So yeah, sometimes you gotta just forget discrimination and cherry picking, pay your dues with a positive attitude and wade into the trash to get to the good stuff.  If this was easy, everyone would be doing it.

  12. First off, I disagree from walking away from any site unless you are somehow time limited on access or if you have found NOTHING but junk after multiple tens of hours hitting it and/or if you really do have a real promising and proven alternate site to hit.  Having a place to detect that you have unlimited access to and that will keep you busy for several visits (even if it is not immediately producing), is a luxury and more valuable then even your detector.  Without a viable site, a detector is worthless.  If you have the luxury of time and some patience, then work your way through the aluminum and iron and get it out of the way.  If the place has been previously detected and if there are still treasures to be found, it is most likely amongst all that trash and you may have to pick your way through that trash slowly.  Pick out small 2-3 yard square grids and hit those slowly but relentlessly with that 6 inch coil.  You basically have to take baby steps to ensure your 6-inch coil covers every inch of ground in the grid.  Note that it is only within the past 5 to 7 years that reasonably priced detectors have been designed to quickly process signals under such conditions, which enables them to be less overloaded and be more likely to detect treasure hiding between the junk targets.  If the house has been hit previously, and there is that much trash present, then it is likely the previous detectorists did not have the equipment to handle the junk or were lazy or both.   It's tedious, but is more likely to pay off in the long run and you will really learn the language of your machine.

    That approach will get tedious, so you definitely should also cherry pick the edges or the heart of the junk (doing the latter by discriminating out everything but high conductors as has been recommended).  Look for those hot spots that have been mentioned previously (walkways, entrances, gardens, outdoor meal areas, clotheslines (especially).  Look for accumulations of like targets to give you a clue as to what caused those targets to end up there - channel your inner detective.  Multiple coins and buttons might indicate where a clothesline was strung.  An isolated batch of cans, tuna tins, mason jar lids, foil, pocket knives or flatware or other similar items might indicate where and outdoor table of fire pit stood.  Toys (cars, cap guns) obviously tell where the kids played.  Miscellaneous machinery parts might indicate a barn, garage, or shop.  Groups of old nails and miscellaneous brass objects might indicate a long-since torn down out building.  Also, recognizing what is NOT there will also provide information.  If you are not finding old coins, especially silver, then it is a good indication the place WAS previously cherry picked.

    Adjust recovery speed up when in high target density areas and also lower sensitivity a bit under those conditions because you are unlikely to hear deep targets amongst shallow cans, nails, and other large pieces of junk.  Lowering sensitivity works in conjunction with higher recovery setting to help keep iron and other large/shallow junk items from overloading the detector giving you a better chance of hearing relatively shallow keepers between the junk.

    Anyway, as others have mentioned, you have a golden opportunity with this challenging site to hone your detecting skills, really learn your detector, and perhaps find something really special hiding in all that trash.  Just take your time and break up the monotony of picking through the trash with some "open field" cherry picking on the less trashy edges using your larger stock coil.  If you attempt to do that with your 6-inch coil while trying to maintain coil swing coverage (baby steps), it will take you forever.  The larger coil gives you more coverage per swing and also more depth where you can use it.

    Good luck, happy hunting, and let us know how it goes.

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