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My hero/ mentor is my cousin (second cousin actually) 😄. He was nice enough to take me under his wing and introduce me to metal detecting. That was when I was 7 years old. Now at 58+ I can't imagine I'd still be doing this. I never was one much for heroes in the detecting world, so I guess mentor it is for me👍.
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Had the day to work a beach with the GPX and the AQ. I used the GPX for 5.5 hours and dug every target in the dry sand. I know there is deep silver at this particular beach, and it did not disappoint me today. The Standing Liberty quarter was measured at 18” and the Walking Liberty half was at 20” This is the maximum I have found silver with the GPX. You do not always get those depth, depending on EMI in the area. I can regularly get 15” on most coins. Another good target was a gold grill, probably 9 or 10K. You do not see those every day on the beach.😄 Partials sometimes, but grills never. It was nice to get out and dig like crazy. Beaches are very trashy, but I need the exercise, so I dig it all.
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Got a chance to try the AQ on the wet slopes at one of my beaches. I spent most of the day waiting for a low tide so I could see how the AQ performed for me. This beach is generally protected, so the beach does not get ripped up very often from storms. The first part of the day was using my GPX for the dry sand. Late afternoon I spent 2 ¾ hours on the wet slope with the AQ. I ran mute exclusively with 7.5us. It ran very stable with almost no end of sweep falsing. Really nice and smooth. I am still learning, so I dug everything I heard (and even a couple of nulls) which ended up being a quarter and a toy car. The hair pins and long thin wires all gave a double beep, I will be passing on digging them from now on. I will probably live with digging the bottle caps as there are not as many on the wet slopes as there are on the dry sand. I did find 2 rings and was hoping for gold but stainless 316 and aluminum is all I could muster up. They did come in very strong and were in the 10-12” range. All in all, I am happy with the performance of the AQ and I am sure when I get some hours under my belt, I will be more confident in what to dig. I rarely give up on digging a target once I start, but I had to leave a nice deep small target. The water was filling up the hole and the sides caved in so many times that I gave up on it. This area of the beach has a layer of fine sand followed by a layer or small pebble and shell. The next layer has larger rocks locked together tightly. A small target was located somewhere in that last layer. Using the edge of the coil vertically as a pin pointer on the AQ works excellent. What does not work at all is Garrett's pin pointer in water. Even balancing it to the water does not help. I think if I had a better pin pointer, I would have located that target. Also, I am really liking the ease of using the AQ. It does not take you long to get used to how it works or how it sounds. I think it will work well for my type of beach hunting.
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How did that happen??? Doesn't the charger provided have a safety for overcharge? I will have to watch mine closer now. Also the swapping of batteries is annoying and I have found kind of hard to keep the sand out while swapping out batteries. It is a bit of a small project every time 😢 I hope you get one of OBN's batteries (that is after I get one first) 😄
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Beautiful rings. Great hunt Jim. It is nice when the crowds dwindle and you can relax and listen for those faint hits. You are very lucky to live next to a beach 🤗
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Nice. I didn't know that some of the Visions had sold before they were forced to change the name. I wonder how many of the early ones were released?
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Nice group of jewelry. You can even cash in some of that lead you dug 😉. Apparently a lot of fishing going on there. There is a strange satisfaction that you get from digging everything. I do it because I still can, but eventually age will get me to be my own discriminator. Good hunt.
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13 hours ago, Joe Beechnut OBN said:
Thanks Buddy, If you could give us a report in about a week that would be great. I used the same battery...... I had a run time of 5 hours and 30 minutes then 5 hours and 37 minutes the second time. All metal hunting the first trip then the second mostly all metal with a hour of mute mode. I am only making 5 Shorties like yours and 5 Big batteries. I get the ten batts out there and give them several months I may do another round this winter when things are slow if everyone is still happy. The shorty is 140 plus shipping 15 dollars and the Big Battery is 170 plus 15 shipping. I expect the Big Batt to get 11 plus hours.
List is full, Got in a hunt today and will be working on them Weds..on
Ji.....Cliv....Cli....De...See...Sha...Cu..EL..Te ...CC ...Ga/O
Sign me up for one of those big ones on your next run if you can. Even the "shorty" replaces both of the stock batteries I have. I'm getting 2 3/4 hrs run time on average for each of them. Nice job on them.
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6 minutes ago, cdv said:
Almost enough to scare me away from the AQ until I saw you were mostly in the dry. Interesting though the bottle caps, from my quick count, about 1/3 of the caps were Corona's.......the average for Corona would be very similar down here in Florida at my beaches.
Good luck on your next hunt.
Cliff
Thanks Cliff. Dry is all I had this week. The machine isn't really intended to be used like I am using it. My beach season is just getting started, so I will do more lower slope wet sand hunts, as I can get out. The water hunts are left to the pros to show. Just wanted to add that the machine ran very stable when not exposed to the train, which was about 20 feet away.
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Finally I was able to get to a beach after their season ended. I used the AQ in all metal and mute modes. I could not use the tone mode since I was way too close to the Acela high speed train. Most of the trains that run that rail don't affect my pulse machines too much, but when the Acela hits the rails, it's a no go for any machine. The AQ handled it a bit better than my GPX does. But you still have to hear the interference and at times you just can't hunt. I hunted for 5 1/2 hours with the AQ (2 3/4 hrs per each battery). The low tide was exceptionally "high" at +0.9. This did not allow me to get much wet sand, so most of the hunt is in dry sand and any wet sand I could find. This is just the first part of the hunt involving the AQ. I hunted another 3 1/2 hours with the GPX not shown here. I have a lot to learn, so I am digging every target. I am getting better at knowing hair pins, as I could call most of them before I dug them. Bottle caps are a different story, as the only idea they might be bottle caps was the extremely strong and wider signal. But I think a gold ring a 2" would sound the same? I should be able to get out again soon and hit a very good low tide, so I will have better information on how I do in the iron and wet sand. I did manage to get a small silver ring, some bling jewelry and a lot of exercise! Settings were Carolina's settings. Thanks man! I ran at 7.5us most of the time. I still like how the AQ responds and feels generally. Only real drawback is swapping out a battery making sure no sand gets into the connections. For those that have way more experience on the AQ than I do, have you found the depth on dry sand to be equal or less than wet sand?
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Very nice hunt!The silvers are a bonus for all your hard work! Gold is always welcomed 😉
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Nice looking ring. What is the ring adjuster made of? It didn't help from losing it though. Great job on the battery.
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44 minutes ago, Hello said:
Good point Nordic, thank you.
If you want to be discreet when looking for metal. Do you guys think it might be a good idea to take a thin garbage bag around the detector, so it is not visible what it is you are holding? It should be fine to search anyway, or do you think it damages the detector's ability to find metal? I'll try it.
Before you get in trouble with the law, you should research and see if what you want to do is illegal in your country. If you get caught, you may end up paying a lot of money and possibly jail time. Here in America if you detect some very important battle sites (like Gettysburg) and get caught, they will take your equipment, possibly your vehicle and you will pay a lot of court and legal fees to get them back. As far as being visible with a bag on your machine, you can not hide a detector with a bag. Everyone will know what you are doing. I feel a bit uncomfortable giving you any more advice on detecting if you are going to do illegal activities with it.
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44 minutes ago, Hello said:
Thank you for the help schoolofhardNox.
The two last pictures are those also musket balls?
The last one looks just like a metal thing I found! But I have no idea of what it is or how old it is etc!
The last two are the metallic arrow points. They are from the year 1637. You will have to research your history to see if you had metallic arrow points in your country.
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Wow, very sorry to his family for their loss. You get used to seeing posts from names of people you may never meet. It's like a big family here and it hurts to know that we will never see a post from him again. Rest in peace.
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Also I see people ride special bikes (bicycles) on the beach. I wonder how much those tires go for? They support a person and seem to peddle pretty fast
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That junk ring would have gotten my attention too. Love the design and would have been a beauty if it were in gold. Spots open up and close up at an extremely fast pace. Just shows you that hunted hard places are only beat to death until mother nature makes the look like they have never been hunted at all. When the Equinox first came out, I had one beach hunt where I got 9 gold items, (some rings, some paper thin trinkets, some charms). I thought I could get back there next week and continue that trend Nothing in the gold or silver range. I have learned to appreciate the hunt more than stressing about hitting gold or silver. But it is a good feeling when you get into that kind of area and realize that a lot of sand must be gone. For a silver chain that huge, to still be there makes you realize there are other smaller desirable targets still lurking beneath the sand! I would have immediately thought that chain was fake if I found it
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Wow, I wonder if anyone passed over that signal grumbling "just another stupid can" 😄 Great find. The best I can do is a sterling silver spoon 🙄
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8 hours ago, Hello said:
schoolofhardNox: "Also plowing can bury deeper the round ball you are looking for."
Yes, and I guess the machines can also unfortunately break the bullets? Sometimes it can be positive if you are lucky, that the machines, on the contrary, plow up what you want to find so it will be easier to find, right?
Yes the plow helps you as well. Some finds do come closer to the surface. For small items like round ball, the plow doesn't hit them very often.
schoolofhardNox: "I find the smaller round ball are harder to find as they get deeper. So, the lower numbers are usually the small ball. "
Good to know. The small bullets, are they usually from musket pistols, rather from musket rifles?
The musket bullets you found from 1637-1812, how did they look in general? Where they round, and did they look like musket bullets/balls, or where they flat and rather unrecognizable metal objects? After they have been fired and lying in the ground for 200-400 years, maybe they have usually changed a lot and do not look like typical round musket balls/bullets?The small ball can either be from a pistol or can be fired from a Musket. More than one can be loaded together and fired together
Here are a couple of shots of freshly dug round ball from May 26, 1637. It was a one day battle. These round ball were found in areas along with brass kettle points during a withdrawal from the battle by the English. Some are flat on one side but usually you can always see some of the round part of a ball no matter how hard it hit a rock or tree. Most are round and all are usually white from oxidation.
schoolofhardNox "A: Yes, go to 20khz or 40 khz if you are having too much trouble in multi near power lines."And if too noisy, then go down to 15 kHz or 10 kHz etc as Badger-NH wrote, right?
But 20 kHz lean more towards lead (like musket bullets right?) as Badger-NH pointed out, but just a slight advantade over 10 or 15, the differences is not to big right, is that your experience too?
Experiment with each one. Your conditions will tell you which one is better. There is no right or wrong one to choose. Only the one that works for you.
And then first use a recovery speed as you wrote 3, or 4 as Badger-NH wrote, but then if too much noise then raise it to 5-6, and in extreme amount of iron, raise to 7 or 8, you do that too?
Recovery speed is not for helping with noise. It is for helping you when there are a lot of targets close together. It makes it easier to hear close together targets. You can either raise it to separate targets or just swing your detector slower.
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On 8/20/2020 at 10:22 AM, Hello said:
Thanks again schoolofhardNox. Cool that you found so much of them! From some war?
A: Yes, mostly from a 1637 battle. But also from a 1674-1675 battle. Occasionally from an 1812 Battle.
Some questions.
What do you mean, that "Fields can be tricky for the Equinox, especially if plowed" ? Does it become more difficult to find objects then? Why?
A: Sometimes loose dirt has an effect on detectors. Not sure the science behind it, but I prefer undisturbed dirt. Also plowing can bury deeper the round ball you are looking for.
What would you say are the benefits of using Gold 2, over Field 1 or 2 when looking for musket balls in the fields? Does it work better or as well as field modes, would you say?
A: Not necessarily better, but different. I find the Gold alerts me quicker to a target than any of the other modes. I like that fast response.
Sorry, what is MA?
A: MA stands for Massachusetts, a state in the USA
Sorry for my bad english, but what do you mean with this: "Dig iffy targets in the lower number range to make sure you do not miss the small shot. "?
A: Iffy targets are targets that do not come in very well. They bounce around on the numbers. Some people only dig signals that are perfect, but when you are relic hunting , some targets do not sound very good. I find the smaller round ball are harder to find as they get deeper. So, the lower numbers are usually the small ball.
" If there is too much EMI switch to 20khz or 40khz." If it's interference from powerline, then I go from multi to a single frequency, I understand what you mean here I think.
A: Yes, go to 20khz or 40 khz if you are having too much trouble in multi near power lines.
When it's EMI, how do I know? How does the equinox-800 react then, to tell me that there are disturbances? Is it when it beeps all the time on everything?
A: EMI happens almost everywhere, but it is much stronger the closer you get to power lines. Someone posted to turn your machine on and don't move the coil. Listen to the detector, if it makes noises when it is still (not moving), then it is EMI. You can noise cancel but it probably will still be there. This is when you try the single frequencies and not multi. I usually ended up on 20khz or 40khz.
Do you know how close to a power line the metal detector needs to be to be disturbed by it? Is it if you stand under it, or a few meters away or is it a longer distance as well?
A: The closer you get, the stronger it is. I have been 30 yards ( 27+ meters) from a big power line and have been affected by it. You will learn how the machines sounds when you get interference from EMI. I find that I get interference from a lot of sources but power lines a strong source. Electrified rail road tracks, people's electricity in houses, street power lines, radar, etc. are some other sources.
Thank you.
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Beautiful find!! I guess that feeling you get when you see that gold in the screen never gets old 😄
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Nice. The AQ is working for you already! Are you running Mute or Tone?
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Nice! Congrats !!
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Beach Hunt Again With The AQ
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Hi Joe, I had purchased one I think it was called land and sea or something like that. Speaker gave out after it took a short fall out of the holder. Took it apart and saw that the speaker was not soldered like in the old days. almost looked glued in place. I also tried the Quest probe. That one is not nearly loud enough to use it near the ocean. Can't hear it with the sound from the waves and can't feel the vibration from it. Honestly the best pulse I have used was the pistol probe which is not waterproof and looks from a distance like a gun 😲. I would love to have a dependable, loud pulse pin pointer that is water proof in a Garrett carrot case. Any manufacturers really listening out there ? As far as the studs go, I'm not sure how deep I found them but probably pretty shallow. Some of them gave a double beep, so I probably will be missing them so I don't have to dig hair pins which also give a nice double beep.