Lost Scout

No not that one. It was one that went to the connections to both coils that is covered in epoxy. I am not an electronics guy by any means. However there was no sign of water, no soil, the seal was good.( A pain to separate in fact ). From a layman's point of view nothing appeared wrong. Probably have to hook it up to a multimeter or something to see where it went wrong. Oh well mechanical parts are prone to failure no matter the application. I don't abuse stuff but do use them hard. I think I'll upgrade to a Nugget Finder Evo or a coiltech. I just bought two advantage coils for really cheap and was really impressed over the stock coils performance.

Like your send off!

So for any one who is interested... It's possible that one of the very fine wires connecting to the epoxied doodad wasn't connected before I carefully removed some of the masking tape? In any event I was somewhat surprised that the bundling was a little more ... consistent. Im not an electronics guy but I thought it would be.

Sorry Phrunt, my sense of humor and sarcasm didn't translate in text. I know it doesn't have a reset. The video is ok , good to see the insides the the coil. I'm going to take mine apart out of curiosity. And yes I was using multiple coils and everything else worked. So I didn't have it in cancel. It worked fine two weeks ago. Just don't understand why it it failed.

VMI went out today, it was beautiful. Wanted to do a bunch of testing and comparisons on coils and depths between a vlf and pi. ( So i know where the cross over is ). When I got to the stock 11" dd commander for my 4500 it didn't work. I mean I waved it two inches off my pick before it responded! I looked the whole thing over but can't find the reset button. Any words of wisdom? I've included pics top and bottom for reference. And fat fingered the pics, sorry. I think I'm going to ever so carefully take it apart with a two pound hammer and see if I can find the problem. On the other hand I can now fully justify a new aftermarket.🤠

Hey Jin, use a grinder quick and lightly. I watched the video and as someone who welds and uses shovels, picks, knives and other metal tools I'm here to tell you this isn't a knife. I'm picky about my knife sharpening but this is a pick. It hits the dirt and rocks. It doesn't need a fine edge. Just cleaned up on occasion. Some things need fine tuning and then there are some tools that you have to realize aren't a piano.

😂 Ok I'm laughing! Cause I can have a dirty mind. So many responses.... But I don't want to be banned from the forum....(you'd want to to get my hands on) I'm a little confused. And my wife wants to to know what's going on. As far as the new detector goes it sounds really promising. But it's not happening any time soon for me. I did get two N F Advantage coils from an estate type sale really cheap. 8x6 and 14 x7. They arrived today. Now I want a coil 15"-18" but may have to wait for a deal. Can't do any testing around the house , too much emi. When I have a chance I may post the results.

Beautiful!

You might also check out 511tactical. I've got one of theirs for an everyday bag that's smaller. Doesn't have D rings but does have slots a ring or carabineer would go into.

I have used the same thing for years as a hunting day pack. I vouch for the overall quality. Mesh side pockets do tear out. Because of the front Dee rings and the fact I just got a bungee from Docs I'm thinking this is what I'll use. Alps Trailblazer, Alps Outdoors. They have different styles. ( Was taking a break from a cold project outside.😀)

It's not about deserving or a suspicion of not being good enough for a machine. I hope I can communicate and make sense here. If you are happy and satisfied with whatever machine you're using I think that's great. I have been happy with a $110 machine from the pawn shop. Now I'm learning new technology on more expensive machines. I hope to learn them well, hope to make cool finds on the way and lm happy doing it. Learn the machine you can afford. If you can afford the best and want one, go for it. (It also helps drive the economy and gives me a chance at the used models 😀). In some areas of my life I like automatic turn on and go, get results so that I can spend time in on other things that interest me. Certainly in some areas I take on things that make me learn and are a challenge. When I bought a Nox 800 I bought a learning curve. Still learning, happy doing it. In another thread there is guy selling a detector. Found out that's not the machine for him and he's finding gold with another model. I think it's great he's finding gold and hope he finds more. He found the tool that works for him but seems to be searching for something a little more... Nothing wrong with that. So am I. Am I up to my machines capabilities? No. But I'm happy using them.

I don't think it's always about making a living as it is about being proficient. Do you use it as an excuse to get out? Or are enthused about being able to find stuff in the ground? Either way I get it. Thanks for the reply and keep at it.

You are obviously enjoying yourself. Keep it up!

I like your sentiments. For me i love the hunt. Doesn't matter if it's for game or metal detecting. 90 percent is being outside and experiencing everything associated with it. But I have to have goal... A point. If I can't eat deer meat once in awhile it negates my purposes. If don't find a treasure in the ground the rest seems pointless. I would just go out on hike or go camping and not spend the money on a detector. So to get back to my question, regardless of what you paid or how good the detector might be, are using it to its fullest? And if not are you happy with your your choice?

For various reasons I'm going over metal detecting stuff and gun stuff at the same time. And it occurred to me that an analogy could be made. 95 percent of people that hunt can't shoot as accurately as their gun can. Buying a sub minute accurate rifle for hunting is generally a waste of money unless you practice and are dialed in to your rifle at at all ranges. Spending the money on a $1500+ dollar rifle is not going to make you any better if you don't improve your own game. How many of you out there are hoping to to find the big nugget because you spent $7000 + dollars for new technology that you don't learn to use? I'm not trying to bash anyone, but rather encourage learning the machine you have to to get optimum results. And there is certainly a cost/ benefit equation. I don't detect enough to justify a gpz but have used a used 4500 enough to to get my money out of it if only for the satisfaction of the hunt. My wife and I have spent countless hours using an Equinox 800 and have been fully rewarded for our efforts if only for the time spent learning the machine. The ultimate goal is to come away with a profit ( monetary or historical ) and that is why it is worth while to pursue. I want to find gold..but I know that I have to research, practice and spend the time with the coil to the ground and pay attention to what I'm doing, hearing, and the results I get. I know this isn't technical and a deep dive into electronics but i would like to hear back from some you that make a living or spend a lot of time dedicated to this game.

I haven't tried the DD in mono yet but I'm going to. I should be getting two used small NF Advantage coils in the mail next week. They were really cheap, estate sale. I'd like a 15" but just bought the pinpointers from you. So will probably have to wait on that. Hope to use the Equinox's on tailing piles this summer.

I know others have shared their gratitude in the past but I would like to do the same. Thanks Steve, for this forum. Thanks to all the contributers who's input, ideas, questions and expertise make this a great source of information, interest and an avenue to help pursue the hunt for buried treasure. I'm sharing a photo of my wife when she found her first ring; priceless. And one selfie with both of us wandering around Nevada having a great time looking for for some yellow stuff. Love learning more about detecting, the technical stuff, tips and tricks, geology and seeing some of the finds people have made. Again , thanks.

Watch the video at docs detecting.com He sells a bungee set up called the qweegle. Just bought one and it is really easy to use and adjust. The video shows it in use.

Well I just gave my dad's old Gold Bug Pro to my kid so out of luck there. Lots of info on the thread,thanks.

So at the very least I can see that I need to pony up for a better coil. The amplifier intrigues me.

Ok. In some of the areas I try I have a lot of EMI in in others very little. That's one of the reasons I want to try an aftermarket coil. Sounds like I may need to look into an amplifier. Thanks See this is what I mean by subtleties. It can be regional. Thanks to both of you.

I get the newer coils but is the amplifier that much more of an advantage?

Yep I have consider it.

Thanks phrunt. I value your input. In some instances I will be looking for specimen gold and in others the gold is smaller. Although I could get into bigger and deeper gold. I really think your insight is valuable.

Wow! Quick responses. Thanks. I do some detecting close by and in Nevada and maybe Montana this spring. I have been looking at the 14x9 And various bigger coils. Maybe a Sadie. Depends on my next paycheck. I have some really good headphones that I like, killer bees.