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hey Jeff thanks for replying I have everything except the box it came in and the rechargeable battery, I do have two AA battery holders, I got sick with covid and my step daughter came in to take care of my wife while I was in the hospital and she accidentally threw the rechargeable battery pack away while she was cleaning our place, that's why I need some help in pricing the GM 1000

I am going to post my GM 1000 (Gold Monster) up for sale but have no clue what a used GM 1000 would be worth can someone give me an idea of value I was thinking like $500 but not sure if that is to high thanks for any replies

JCR I have re installed the 1.09 4 times have also re installed the threshold 3 times did the factory reset each re install and shut the Legend down after each re install to no avail the threshold on my legend still has no threshold at 11 or lower it is only at a setting of 12 or higher can you hear the threshold through the Bluetooth headphones I have even contacted Delik about this she told me to do the same thing as you which like I said I have re installed the 1.09 update and the threshold update several times what is strange is without headphones connected and just running through the legends speaker the threshold sound is there at all levels 1-10 but there is still no null or clip when going over a target the new updater tool works really good compared to the first updater tool

for me the new threshold update made the threshold worse, now with the headphones or ear buds connected there is absolutely no threshold until you are at a setting of 12 at 11 or lower no threshold at all the threshold also does not null or clip as I call it when over a target it just does not seem correct

yes when I downloaded the threshold update there was a updater tool included for just doing the threshold update that is the one you use not the one for the 1.07, .08,or .09 use the one for the threshold update yes

Did you do a factory reset after you did the update is my first question

checked in tracking mode it actually went up a little in M1 park and field to 91 but in M2 there was a huge raise in M2 park and field wen to 90 so it is much closer GB values in tracking mineral meter was still the same left side 10 bars and right side 1-3

there is a lot to try to remember, just like the Mineral meter I completely over looked they had even added a mineral meter painting the buttons really helps to allow you to see them

this is for kac and Jeff McClendon when I do my ground balance I always scan prior to performing a ground balance i will scan like a 4-5 foot area and then I will do the ground balance only when I know there is no targets in that area I have not checked it in tracking mode but I intend on checking that question if there was a big piece of metal beyond the legends depth capabilities that the legend was not giving a tone or TID on could this or would this cause the variance in M1 and M2 I am also wandering because the mineral meter on the Left side is pegged if there is not a high possibility of heavy magnetite which i do see a lot of in areas I detect, could a heavy concentration of magnetite cause that big of variance in GB number between M1 and M2

I think you are now getting my concern, both mine and my wife's legend are giving the same GB values and the same on the Mineral meter 10 bars on the left side of the meter and 0-3 on the right side most times the right side settles down on 1 or 2 unless there is something beyond the detection depth of the legends capabilities when I scan the ground I am ground balancing over the legend is not seeing any target in the area i ground balance over

I have not checked it with tracking activated but will the other thing is both mine and my wife's legends are giving the same readings

Finally checked the Mineral meter out LOL results in one of the areas I have been detecting checked it out in park and field modes in M1 and M2 both multi mode showed a pretty big variance in GB values Park multi 1 GB value was 89 same in field mode multi 1 Park multi 2 GB value was 55 same in field mode I did the ground balance over the same piece of ground checked before ground balancing for any metal objects there were none Mineral meter in both park and field left side of meter was pegged 10 bars right side of meter which is salt content was bouncing 1-3 bars I know different frequency ranges can skew the GB numbers which I know M1 and M2 are weighted differently as far a frequencies but should there be that much variance in ground balance numbers between M1 and M2 the mineral meter just proved to me that my ground is highly mineralized which I already knew

I had the 11 inch coil on the Legend and the Simplex plus the AT PRO was the stock coil which is a little smaller then the Legend and the simplex

No it does not, once it starts dropping it continues doing that until I have done the re install of the 1.09 But now with Jeff McClendon reply I am almost thinking it is doing what it is supposed to do

That's crazy Jeff, here I was thinking because i was seeing the GB numbers on the Legend it was supposed to be up there close to the Simplex and AT Pro, now with what you said I am wandering if when it drops down to the 0-3 if that is not correct,I will say when it would drop to the 0-3 it still was running stable

Dang I forgot they even added a mineralization meter I have not even activated it LOL guess I better go back and read the new manual and figure out how to change the Ferro Check to mineral meter thanks for reminding me JCR about the new ground indicator meter on the Legend, it is a lot to take in and remember, I have been so focused on learning all the settings I forgot about that one

forget that I used the Simplex Plus or the AT PRO all I was doing with those two detectors to get a baseline reading of where the GB numbers should kind of be on the Legend or a range of where the ground I detect runs in GB value. what I seen in the Legend when I ground balance is this, after the initial install of the 1.09 update the legend would ground balance at mid 80s to mid 90s in auto ground balance without tracking activated, after 3-5 days of running with ground balance values reading in the mid 80s to mid 90s all of a sudden the ground balance values would literally start dropping off to values of 1-10, when I would check with the Simplex plus to see if its GB values had dropped the simplex plus would still be giving values in the ranges it originally started with, plus or minus maybe a few digits one way or the other, so I would re ground balance the Legend which would ground balance numbers now were in the 1-10 values, so again I am going to ask how can the legends GB values be this low and two other detectors as high as they are showing when originally the GB numbers were very close, not exactly the same but close within 5-10 points close to two other detectors

what I do not think you are understanding is I am not running with tracking activated it is not on tracking, every time this has happened that is the first thing I check to make sure I have not activated tracking, which is by the way very simple to do on the legend by mistake, but no I do not have the tracing GB on it is off

JCR maybe you can explain to me this I re watched Dilek's video again twice she kept referring to if the ground you are detecting does not have something for the legend to ground balance to like the sky for instance as she refer ed to it will make the Legend do what we are seeing does it work the same when the ground is highly mineralized like the ground I detect 80s-90s if that is the case what is the purpose of having a ground balance feature, I think I am even more confused now I am to old for someone to start confusing me like I am now LOL

I am with you something sounds a miss to me also but I am also like you the Legend is my first delve into a true multi frequency detector also so maybe I am miss understanding the GB on the Legend

what do you consider low GB numbers the ground I detect is anything but low GB numbers my GB numbers run anywhere from low 80s to mid to high 90s, the lowest I have seen so far in the areas I detect is around 76 on GB values but those numbers are very seldom most times it is up around mid 80s to mid to high 90s

tell me just what you think they would repair according to Dilek this is the way the Legend is supposed to work or behave so why would someone waist their $$$$ to send in for repair, just for them to say it is working like it is supposed to work LOL I am just trying to figure out if it is working or not working then I will decide whether to send in for warranty

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the issue I am seeing I am not running ground tracking it is off, what I am seeing is when I am performing the Ground Balance, because I have had to do a re- install I take it outside after the install along with my Simplex plus and the AT Pro I check the GB numbers with those two detectors first, then I will Ground Balance the legend in the same spots as the AT and simplex usually all the GB values on all three machines are close in values but after 3-5 days later the GB numbers start changing on the legend to the point it backs the numbers down on the legend to 0-10 usually it is at 0-3 and ends up at 0, when I start seeing that happening I will check the GB values with the Simplex plus and the ATP their numbers have not changed except maybe a point or two

I have checked to see if tracking is on and it is not,that is one of the things I keep checking, and I could understand the changing GB values if I was running with the tracking activated, but not to the extent the GB numbers are coming up, or dropping rather, especially when the Simplex plus is giving way higher GB numbers also the AT PRO, for instance when it starts dropping on the Legend I check with the Simplex Plus the GB numbers on the Simplex PLUS is reading in the 70s-90s but the Legend will start out at that range and then goes to 1-10 it ends up 0-2 or 3, by what Dilek said in the video she posted up today, she says that is how the legend is supposed to work and this just does not seem correct to me