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It's great to see Nel still around, they've survived the odds so far and now they've released their range of coils for the Legend. Legend owners now have an additional 10 coil choices for the detector, and this will mean it's fiercely competitive with the best of the best from any brand. That 17x15" Nel Big would have to add some depth, then the absolute tiny gold nugget (flake) sensitivity of the Nel Snake at 6.5 x 3.5. The Nel Superfly and Tornado are also coils to take note of. It was always my condition that I wouldn't buy a Legend unless it had Nel coils, as I have too many detectors and adding another similar one would be a pointless exercise for my needs. However, now with Nel having their range of Legend coils available it is a must have detector for me, the Legend paired with a Nel Snake coil would be a beast for prospecting. He's a link to the Legend's Snake coil. https://nel-coils.com/index.php/en/production/nel-snake-9-5x3-5?id=2376 I'm sure they're going to be hard to come by at the start, and no doubt expensive as shipping from Ukraine at the moment is sky high, a price I am willing to pay though, this has to be a giant kick in the marbles to Noktas competitors.
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From what we know thus far---which detector is the best (Legend or E900) for relic, gold (nugget) & coin hunting (in mineralized ground)?------Opinions?
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Just for people that are new to my posts, I can get long winded quick. I did this testing for me and me alone to help determine which of these two detectors will be saying bye, bye. I am posting it here for anyone that wants to read it. This testing is not definitive, absolute or even remotely relatable to what you may see in other testing videos, may experience or have experienced if you actually read this post. This testing was semi controlled. I used a 18" by 12" by 12" black plastic container filled to within 2" of the top with dirt from my backyard that has had all detectable targets of any kind including hot rocks removed. I did not remove any of the tiny magnetite particles with a magnet. It has been allowed to become very dry and crumbly over the 4 years that it has been in this container. It shows 10 of 12 filled up bars on the XP Deus 2 magnetite mineralization meter. This dirt is as bad as it gets around here and mimics the unwatered dirt in the ground in this area up until yesterday when we got some well needed rain.....it is still raining today which is awesome for our water shortage here in the Colorado Front Range area. EMI was also an issue......... This testing includes foil and beaver tail aluminum targets vs a US clad quarter in separation testing and a depth test that includes a .25 gram piece of lead from a fishing sinker that was cut in half and flattened (mimics a small gold nugget or piece of micro jewelry), a modern US nickel, a modern US clad dime and a modern US clad quarter. The target separation test had three parts and no targets were elevated so all were at the same level laying on top of this nasty dirt: test 1. foil or beaver tail laying directly on top of the clad quarter, test 2. foil or beaver tail laying roughly one quarter's diameter above the quarter, so on the Y-axis or parallel to the center spine of the detector's coils and test 3. the foil or beaver tail laying roughly one quarter's diameter left of the quarter on the X-axis so perpendicular to the center spine of the detector's coils. Normal speed coil sweeps for both detectors were as flat as possible and roughly 2" above the test targets. See photos below. The depth test was done in the same container using two slightly different sized 8" long PVC pipes sunk vertically into the dirt 4 years ago. Inside the smaller PVC pipe is a foam insert with notches cut into it at one inch intervals that are big enough to insert coin sized targets. See photo below. The results from the depth test may be startling to some. These results are however fairly consistent with what happens in some areas of western Denver when the soil is bone dry. Add in some moisture and the results will improve by 1" to 2 " on coin sized targets. The improvement on micro jewelry and small nugget type targets is minimal since they already are so close to the ferrous/non-ferrous borderline. Just for your information, these separation tests, depth tests and field results are very similar to the Equinox 800 results on coin sized targets. On micro jewelry and small gold nuggets, the Equinox and Legend are roughly equal from my experience. Both detectors were properly noise cancelled and ground balanced. Deus 2 target IDs for the test targets on the test dirt's surface are: .25 gram lead =30, US clad nickel =63, US clad dime =91, US clad quarter =96, square of candy wrapper foil =26, beaver tail from a ring pull =61. Legend target IDs for the test targets on the test dirt's surface are: .25 gram lead =14, US clad nickel =26, US clad dime =46, US clad quarter =51, square of candy wrapper foil =11, beaver tail from a ring pull =23. The settings I used are the ones that I have settled on to hunt most of the time for coins and jewelry from trial and error. You can question them if you want, but I already have. They work as well as some others I have tried and much better than others that are recommended back east or in the UK. Deus 2 9" coil (I don't have the 11" and won't buy one since I don't need it and it is not as comfortable to swing for me): Sensitive 5 tones, discrimination =10, sensitivity =95, frequency shift (today) =3, volume =3, iron volume =3, reactivity =2.5, audio response =4, silencer =1, bottle cap reject =1, notch =OFF, 5 tones with tone breaks set at 10/59/65/88/. Legend 11" coil (can't wait for the 10X5"!!!) Park M1, discrimination on the G-ground setting, sensitivity =25, frequency shift today =4, volume =4, iron volume =6, recovery speed =5, iron filter =3, iron stability =3, 6 tones with similar tone setting to Deus 2 above that help me audibly distinguish possible target conductivity and type of US coin. ________________________ Deus 2 foil directly on top of quarter test: solid IDs from 87 to 96 indicating a high conductor. ID stability lessened near the edges of the coil Legend foil directly on top of quarter test: solid ID of 48, indicating a high conductor, very stable. Deus 2 foil roughly 1" away from quarter and directly above it on the Y-axis: IDs from 76 to 82. Sounded like one target. It was easy to cherry pick and identify each target by conductivity of tone and ID by moving the coil along the Y-axis until the front or rear edge of the coil was only over one target. Legend foil roughly 1" away from quarter and directly above it on the Y-axis: IDs from 20 to 22. Sounded like one target. It was easy to cherry pick and identify each target by conductivity of tone and ID by moving the coil along the Y-axis until the front or rear edge of the coil was only over one target. Deus 2 foil roughly 1" away from the quarter and directly to the left on the X-axis: three distinct target IDs and corresponding tones in the 50s, 70s and 99 which clearly showed multiple targets swinging from right to left. Swinging from left to right there was blanking/nulling of the background noise and then 99 as the coil's left edge left the foil and was only over the quarter. Legend foil roughly 1" away from the quarter and directly to the left on the X-axis: three distinct target IDs and corresponding tones in the 20s, 40s and 50s which clearly showed multiple targets swinging from right to left. Swing from left to right there was blanking/nulling of the background noise and 48 to 55 IDs as the coil's left edge left the foil and was only over the quarter. _________________________ Deus 2 beaver tail directly on top of the quarter test: solid IDs 88 to 96. Legend beaver tail directly on top of the quarter test: solid IDs 49 to 52. Deus 2 beaver tail roughly 1" above quarter on the Y-axis (like above): one target sound only. IDs 72 to 82, targets easy to separate like above with good IDs using front and rear edges of coil. Legend beaver tail roughly 1" above quarter on the Y-axis (like above): one target sound only, IDs 33 to 36, targets easy to separate like above with good IDs using front and rear edges of coil. Deus 2 beaver tail roughly 1" directly left of the quarter on the X-axis (like above): sounded like one target swinging in either direction, ID 99, not easy to separate, target IDs for beaver tail 44 to 50, quarter 99. Legend beaver tail roughly 1" directly left of the quarter on the X-axis (like above): sounded like three distinct targets from right to left with IDs of 38-46-54, swinging left to right there was blanking/nulling of the background noise and then target ID of 46 or 54 when the left edge of the coil moved past the beaver tail. Easy to cherry pick with beaver tail reading 23 to 30 and quarter reading 46 to 55. _______________________________ Depth test Coils were swung as close as possible to the top of the PVC target holder. Deus 2 on .25 gram lead at 1" depth: =faint response with target IDs jumping from 30 to 99. 2"= no response. Tried default Goldfield.....no response at 1". Legend on .25 gram lead at 1" depth: =iffy response with target IDs jumping from 11 to 20. 2" =faint response (definitely something there) IDs alternating 11 and 60. 3"= no response. Default Gold Field using the A discrimination setting (all metal) hit this target down to 3". At 3" it was a faint response (definitely something there) with no ID, only tone. Deus 2 US nickel at 3" depth: =61 to 64 ID, good audio, 4" =64 to 74 good audio but crossed over tone break, at 5" =64 to 99 iffy audio and multiple tone breaks crossed, 6"=faint response 99 ID or no ID. 7" = no response. Legend US nickel at 3" =ID 26 strong audio, 4" =25 to 29 good audio but crossed over tone break, 5" =25 to 60 iffy audio and multiple tone breaks crossed, 6" =25 to 60, faint audio, etc. 7" =no response. Deus 2 US clad dime at 3" =ID 91 to 93 good audio response, 4" =91 to 96 iffy response, 5"=99 or no ID faint response, 6"=no response. Legend US clad dime at 3" =ID 45 to 48 good audio response, 4" =44 to 52 iffy response, 5" =44 to 58 iffy response, 6" =48 to 60 faint response, 7" =60 to no ID but know something is there, 8"=no response. Deus 2 US clad quarter at 3" =ID 96 to 97 strong audio response, 4" =96 to 99 good response, 5" =97 to 99 iffy to faint response, 6"=99 to no ID very faint but know something is there, 7" =no response. Legend US clad quarter at 3" =51 to 52 strong audio response, 4" =50 to 54 good response, 5" =53 to 58 iffy response, 6" =56 to 60 very iffy response, 7"=58 to 60 faint response, 8"=no response. __________________________________ the photos show the targets and testing scenarios. The top foil/quarter and beavertail/quarter were the actual test targets. Thanks for reading if you actually did.
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Yesterday, we were at the end of a king tide cycle in S. Carolina. I went to the beach at dead low tide to work in the water say maybe up to a foot deep. Since this area isn't frequently exposed, I wanted to do weak signal work. Now, mind you this is a trashy, USA beach... where they do beach bonfires. There is tons of aluminum slag, pull tabs, etc. I had the sensitivity jacked up in the 22-25 region. EMI is a big problem here, since I hunt along "hotel row". Get the machine all settled down... As I would swing across an area I'd get a little response. Turn 90 degrees to narrow the area, and get a little response. Readings from 11-55, chirpy and faint, erratic. Dig down 1-3 scoops and the signal(s) disappear completely. If I hadn't got signal in both X and Y planes, I'd have moved along, thinking the machine is giving a false reading. What is going on here? Is it me, the machine, external factors or a combination of all the above? Working in beach mode, wet. Ground balance fixed on (0) zero.
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This is a semi in the ground test on a 0.1 gram gold nugget for anyone that would like to use one of the "do it all" simultaneous multi frequency VLFs for gold prospecting. For the "fairness" police, please don't complain about coil sizes. The smallest coil available for Deus 2 is the 9" coil. So blame XP not me. XP include a simultaneous multi frequency "Gold Prospecting" mode on Deus 2. I would like to use it. This video shows why currently I will not use it. Video starts with checking the test area ground for targets, ground balancing, showing the target and how it is placed in the ground and then the test begins. Deus 2 uses customized FMF Goldfield and customized single frequency Mono program both with sensitivity on 95. I wanted to use the Hi Square audio, Pitch tones and the absolute zero discrimination for both programs along with a slight threshold. That is why I did not use stock default programs. All settings are as identical as I can make them except for the new Audio Filter feature which is on setting 1 for FMF Goldfield custom program 16 and it is on 0 for 40 kHz Mono custom program 15 which was an oversight failure on my part. I did retry it after making the video with FMF Goldfield custom program having Audio filter on 0. It made zero difference. Legend starts at 3:25 of the video. It uses its 6" coil with sensitivity on 23 in Gold Multi and Gold 40 kHz. Equinox 900 starts at 6:00 of the video. It uses its 6" coil with sensitivity on 23 in Gold 1 Multi and Gold 1 40 kHz. All settings are clearly shown in the video for each program being used on each detector. The ruler sticking up out of the ground behind the target is 5 cm high and the target itself is 2" deep or roughly another 5 cm deep. Legend and Equinox in the Gold Multi modes can hit this target 5 cm above the ground. They can hit it at 4 cm above the ground using single frequency 40 kHz. Deus 2 using its 40 kHz Mono program also hit this target at 4 cm above the ground. We could debate about whether Deus 2 in FMF Goldfield is actually hitting the target even with the coil bumping into the target holder. Deus 2's mineralization meter is between half and 3/4th full so moderate to high mineralization which all three detectors struggle with when ground balancing in selectable single frequency 40 kHz. This video is being sent to XP. I sent XP an email and they replied within 24 hours which I really appreciate. Thank You XP!!!!! This is the email exchange between me and XP: HI Jeff Thanks for this feedback. Yes you have right the 40khz of the DEUS II would perform very well if available also in the gold Field Program, as the mono frequencies from the DEUS II are more powerfull than DEUS 1. We will think to make this availabe in the next version. Regards XP TEAM Message : XP, thank you very much for the Deus ll software update version 1.0 and for making it Mac compatible. I am a gold prospector. I use VLF and Pulse Induction detectors. I use a VLF detector for detecting the smallest bits of gold in the 0.5 gram and much smaller size range. I have used Deus 1 and ORX for this. They work very well in their Gold modes. I would like to use Deus 2 for gold prospecting. However, even after updating to version 1.0, Deus 2 FMF Goldfield sensitivity to very small gold nuggets 0.5 gram and smaller down to 0.01 grams is extremely poor. Deus 2 Mono or Fast 40 outperform Deus 2 FMF Goldfield on these types of targets by up to 5cm. One of my test nuggets is 0.08 grams. It can only be detected using FMF Goldfield at 3cm. Fast 40 and Deus 2 Mono will easily detect this same small nugget at 8cm. Being able to use FMF technology in highly mineralized gold prospecting areas would be really beneficial. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, FMF Goldfield's insensitivity on small to very small bits of easily detectable gold using Deus 2 Mono is still very disappointing.
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After 5 weeks using the Legend for mostly US modern coins and a bit of relic hunting, I have been pleasantly surprised with the extra 10 target IDs that the Legend has which separates it from its main competition (Equinox). What pleasantly surprised me most was that Nokta Makro had the good sense at least for me, to put those extra 10 target IDs in the low to mid non-ferrous conductor range. These observations are coming from in the field use of the Legend in moderate to highly iron mineralized dirt on surface to 8" or so deep targets, not from air testing. So, on the Legend target ID 11 to target ID 24 encompasses tiny foil up to the older square tabs. US Nickels are usually a very percussive and obvious 25/26, with normal modern oval pull tabs usually coming in at 26 to 30 with more elongated audio responses than US nickels or gold rings. Beaver tails start at 30 or so and can go up to 37 along with larger pull tabs and can slaw. Zinc pennies if they are in decent shape will usually hit hard at 40 to 42. If they are heavily corroded the spread gets much bigger and can be from 36 to almost 50 until the coil is centered over them. US clad dimes have been consistently 44 to 46 for me, copper pennies have been 46 to 48 and US quarters have been 49 to 52. So that is a full 30 segments of low to mid conductor targets IDs which so far have been very predictable and dependable compared to the 20 target Id segments for the same targets on the Equinox. I have found small womens gold earrings and rings (2 grams and under) in the 12 to 20 range. Some very rusty steel crown bottle caps make a great sound at 19/20 and fool the Ferro Check meter somewhat depending on ground mineralization. At least the 19/20 spot on the target ID range is not shared by a US coin. Another outstanding detector shares the US quarter target ID slot with crown bottle caps of all kinds and condition which is really annoying. So basically the Legend has 10 target IDs for iron, 30 target IDs for low to mid conductor non-ferrous (up to US zinc pennies) and 20 target IDs for US clad coins and high conductors. Speaking of steel crown bottle caps, contrary to a recently produced Youtube video which discussed crown bottle cap recognition and masking, aside from the already mentioned 19/20 rusty crown bottle caps that I have encountered, most crown bottle caps in really good shape will be obvious iron targets in the Ferro Check meter with the meter swinging wildly between mostly all ferrous to mostly all non-ferrous during coil sweeps. They will give a really distinctive mixed tonal and ID response that includes tones and IDs in the low 50s that alternate with iron tones (if you accept part of the iron range) if they aren't covered with foil like the Modelo crown bottle caps. Those will give iron range, aluminum range 30s and low 50s target responses that really sound wild. Those crown bottle cap responses can also sound a bit similar to coin spills so a moment of investigation is a good idea if the target responses are fairly shallow. I am still totally enjoying the Legend. I have not strayed too much from Park M1 using a 6 tone audio setup that lets me know immediately what the conductivity of each target is along with a good idea of size, depth and shape if the targets are roughly coin sized. Aside from still not being able to update to 1.07 due to who knows what..... I still really like the Legend.
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I have not been able to determine the usefulness of the EQX 900 iron bias setting. It appears to only suppress the overall target signal. In the attached video the Nokta Legend has an iron filter, bottle cap reject plus an iron stability setting. It appears the Legend “iron stability” setting isolates and actually addresses false positive signals. What do you think?
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Hello. In the following, I'm referring to iron falsing as, "When a detector produces a good nonferrous tone and a good nonferrous ID on a ferrous object". I mention that, because whenever I've talked about iron falsing on other venues, a few people always reply with, "I can identify iron by the iron grunt", to which I reply, "Well then, that's not iron falsing!" ? Anyway, I use a Legend and often hunt in iron infested sites. I use a high weighted SMF mode, but most importantly, I lower my iron bias to the point that iron falsing begins to occur. That way, I know I'm getting the best iron unmasking ability that my detector can provide. The Legend's Ferrocheck identifies and shows the ferrous and nonferrous content of what's under the coil, and it does so regardless of where settings such as tone breaks or discrimination is set. What I've noticed however, is that Ferrocheck often identifies iron falsing better than ID and tones. For example, when I instigate iron falsing, I'll often get a good nonferrous tone and ID on a nail, but Ferrocheck is clearly, and correctly, identifying the nail as ferrous. To me, it's an invaluable feature when hunting in iron. Now, I'm fairly certain that the Manticore's 2D screen, and the D2's X/Y screen has that same ability to identify iron falsing, but how the heck are those features able to do that, when ID and tone cannot?
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What is the differences between the “range of simultaneous multi frequencies” utilized in both the Equinox 800 detecting modes and the Nokta Makro Legend modes? Here is my attempt to explain my concern: Per the ML Equinox 800 user manual the Equinox provides four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach, Gold; plus eight (8) profiles divided in two (2) pairs per mode: such as Park 1, Park 2, Field 1, Field 2, etc; and one (1) custom user profile side button. Park 1, Field 1, Beach 1 & Beach 2 are “weighted” on the “lower simultaneous multi frequency range”. Park 2, Field 2, Gold 1 & Gold 2 are “weighted” on “ higher simultaneous multi frequency range. The NM Legend has four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach (dry & wet) & Goldfield; zero (0) profiles such as Park 1, Park 2, etc; and four (4) user custom modes. All the detecting modes, per NM all modes are optimized for depth. Currently NM has not addressed nor is there a specification “weighing” the range of simultaneous multi frequencies (low, mid, high) utilized in any of the NM Legend’s detecting modes. The YouTube video “Pasture 1” find of a thin coin indicates the “Field mode” may be utilizing a higher SMF range. When the Legend’s user manual is available online perhaps Nokta Makro will explain how simultaneous multi frequencies are utilized or weighed specific to each of the NM Legend four (4) detecting modes. Do the math 4x2 =8; 4x1=4; 4-8= -4. Certainly an answer I will be looking for prior to placing a pre-order or purchase.
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This is a short, rambling, 8 minute video that kind of shows what Deus 2 and the Nokta Legend sound and act like in a central Arizona gold field. No gold is found. Some hot rocks, hot ground and lead fragments are found. I am very fond of these two detectors so don't expect any mud slinging or drama other than me completely forgetting to video the Legend detecting plain as day, a 0.01 speck of a lead bullet fragment and me falling into a creosote bush which I did not react to very well......and of course deleted from the video. Creosote and I don't get along. My skin reacts to those bushes like they are stinging nettles on steroids. Legend is using the LG24 coil in GoldField M, A discrimination pattern, sensitivity 20, recovery speed 5, iron filter zero, audio gain 3. Deus 2 is using the 9" FMF coil, Goldfield FMF, Disc IAR 0, sensitivity 95, reactivity 2.5, audio gain 3. Both detectors are properly ground balanced, have been noise cancelled and have their threshold tones clearly audible. I only had about 2 hours to find the targets, make the videos and recover the targets and I am holding an iPhone in one hand while swinging a detector with the other on an up to 30 degree inclined ravine slope so don't expect anything earth shattering. Chase Goldman, the video of Deus 2 is for you. You requested I take Deus 2 on this trip. Otherwise I could have easily skipped the whole thing. Both detectors did very well. I did not. Here is a photo of the targets recovered. Deus 2 detecting its 0.12 gram lead target was the target showing a target ID of 32 towards the end of the Deus 2 part of the video. The Legend finding the 0.01 gram lead bullet fragment was not captured on video for my own insane reason being that I totally forgot about that target. I did try to detect it with Deus 2. It was the third target that Deus 2 tried to detect and had very weak, choppy responses and a target ID in the low 20s. Legend hit that target really hard.
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After five months of testing with Tarsacci on the same site, I can say that this detector performs better in an environment full of iron and ceramics compared to DEUS II and The Legend Nokta Makro. Requires more time to learn and the audio is slightly less describing the objects in the ground. On the one hand, it is not distracting, on the other hand, it causes questions. Iron does not mask as much as in SMF devices. Similarly, the temperature above 30 degrees C The Legend and Deus II lose performance and stability after 15 - 20 minutes, the Tarsacci is doing much better. Maybe it's a performance issue or maybe it's a hybrid technology. I do not know. Target signaling comfort is better in The Legend and D2. In Tarsacci, the object must in DISC mode produce a fast repetitive ding-dong signal. A small copper coin 10mm in diameter by 25cm from a very irony spot is not a problem. Sand soil. Ergonomy is slight better with D2 and The Legend.
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All, Was detecting this afternoon without the headphones and about an hour into, the sound (external speaker) stopped completely. It was fully charged, version 1.08 and it has been working fine up until this afternoon. The mute function is not activated, checked that twice. Turned it on and off several times, still no change. It is showing VDI’s, and everything else seems to be working fine, just no sound. Any ideas or anyone encounter this? Thanks.
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Hey all, New to the forum, and the hobby, and need some advice. I've "discovered" an old farmstead near my house here in East TX that was on some of our oldest maps (since 1916!), and was occupied through the 1960's before it was bulldozed in the '70's and the land purchased by one of our school districts. The area of the house and barn are now an open field behind a school. I have secured permission to detect there, and as far as I can tell it has not been touched since it was leveled. It certainly hasn't been detected, as I've already found one coin spill that was mostly older clad ('60s-'70s), but did find one 1945 P War nickel that makes me hopeful there's older stuff there. Anyway, I've been preferring (for my sanity) to work the open areas away from the old house foundation due to the overwhelming amount of trash. There is literally both ferrous and non-ferrous trash carpeting the area. My Nokta Legend (I'm running the stock 11", but just ordered the 6" coil) has actually been doing an amazing job of discriminating (I use a custom 6-tone program based on my reading and youtubing), and I've been able to find clad pennies and nickels deep amongst aluminum slaw and rusted iron galore. But, if I get too close to the old house there are just too many signals to deal with and it's overwhelming. I could literally spend hours in a 100 sq ft area investigating every potentially good signal (soooo many old Budweiser cans and TV trays, lol) and scraping slaw out of the top 1" of the ground. So, my question to y'all is, how do you approach a site like this? Would you "clean it up"? Or do you think that is not worth the time and effort, and I should just stick to the areas I can sanely cover the most ground in the few hours I have available on the weekends? Are there any areas around an old house you would focus on if you had time? What would your approach be? I realize this is a good problem to have, and I am looking forward to hearing your advice!
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Jeff, given your very fine review of the Nox vs Legend for general detecting, I was wondering if you have any updated thoughts on Nox vs Legend specifically for gold prospecting? Equinox Gold Mode versus Legend Gold Mode - which do you prefer and why? Put another way, given that a Nox 800 costs 50% more than the Legend, is there any reason for a new buyer to consider the Nox over the Legend for gold nuggets? Thanks in advance for any answer.
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I, like many others have a huge amount of appreciation and trust in the detecting abilities of the Equinox 600/800. My only issues with the original Noxes are its shaft system, well documented water ingress and its too compressed target ID range especially around target IDs 10 to 20. Other than that, the Equinox 600/800 really revived my VLF detecting life. I personally know other detectorists that have had the same experience. I will own at least one of those detectors for as long as they last. Nokta released the Legend back in early 2022. Lots of opinions have been expressed by people that either haven't used one or have used one very sparingly. There have been opinions about the roll-out, marketing hype, Nox cloning, the number of software upgrades (why wasn't it a finished product at release???) and the well known speaker and software update issues many people had including me. The fact is from my dig hole and my soil conditions: The Nokta Legend has at least equaled and in some aspects excelled beyond the Equinox 600/800 from my experience. That is saying a lot if you have reaped the benefits of all that the Equinox 600/800 have to offer. I am not going to talk about the Equinox 700/900 since I don't own one anymore and have moved on. As a USA coin hunter, I can't tell you how many US nickels I have recovered (stopped counting at 100 several months ago) and six gold rings that had the same target IDs as US nickels, from parks that I had pounded with the Equinox 600 and 800. The Noxes didn't miss those targets. They just reported them as having target IDs and sounding too much like a modern oval pull tab which I was tired of digging. With the Legend's expanded mid range target IDs, US nickels (and any gold rings with the same IDs) do not share target ID space with nearly as much regularly occurring aluminum trash. The Legend also does just fine on deep clad, deep silver coins and jewelry, iron trashed sites, and in the same hot ground that I often hunt on that the Nox 600/800 handle well. It has also done very well at the fresh and saltwater beaches where I have used it. If you are in the market for a waterproof SMF detector that detects at least as well with very similar audio characteristics and target ID stabilty as the Equinox 800 but doesn't leak and has a slightly more expanded target ID system in all the right places, has a good shaft system, good coil selection, good wireless capabilities that are compatible with the Equinox 800 Bluetooth gear, and also does just fine in the gold fields, from my experience after almost 1000 hours of use, the Legend is a viable and very inexpensive alternative for an out of warranty Equinox 800 that you don't want to completely wear out or dunk anymore. Just my experiences.
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I'm having a hard time transitioning to old man status. I am an experienced detectorist but I can't seem to decide on the Legend or Xterra pro. I can afford either but don't want both. Maybe my brain is slipping or something. I can run the Legend in single frequency if needed. I don't go near beach or salt water. The Manticore is nice but I don't need all that bling. Just need a light machine. Hate to ask this seemingly stupid noob question but I would like some simple input. Don't need any complicated answers. Thanks John DeMarco
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This video "Nokta makro legend is this the deepest standard mode ?" www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr6XtgbqhIc appears to show the depth potential using the Goldfield mode setting. Also wonder how well Goldfield mode would be in mineralized wet sand at the beach for jewelry and alike?
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I would like to say that the ferro check is a great feature on the legend. I have found it to be very accurate in recognizing a nonferrous target mixed in with iron. I’ve been running the legend on a recovery speed of only three and it’s ability to locate good targets mixed in with iron is quite impressive.
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I've been keeping an eye on the Lira for a while now, the Turkish currency and it's just been on a massive fall against most currencies, in fact it's fallen 65% in the past 2 years against the USD, 20% in the past month alone. The Turkish economy is obviously a basket case causing this with insane inflation with the annual inflation rate at 40%, makes us feel kinda silly complaining about our mid single figure inflation rates. And if you thought your interest rates were bad in Turkey they've just doubled from 8.5% to 15% in the past couple of days and they're needing to go up a lot more yet with forecasts of 25% by the end of the year. This it the past 2 years of the Lira, look at it tracking right down vs the USD. And the last month alone, look at the dive at the end. The annual inflation rate reached 85 per cent late last year and the central bank burned through most of its reserves trying to prop up the Lira, down 90 per cent against the USD over the past 10 years. So what does this mean for Nokta's pricing? All those US buyers paying their 500 or 600 USD or whatever the Legend currently costs is a whole lot of Liras, much more than it was even a month ago, so does this mean Nokta can further reduce prices blowing the competition out of the water? Possibly. We can only wait and see.
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A friend of mine has been struggling with finding anything much with his detector. I offered to sell it for him on Ebay. Since I have had it for a few days and my messed up ankle can at least let me stand on it..... I decided to do a little US nickel/US quarter target ID accuracy test video featuring the XP Orx, Garrett Apex and Nokta Legend. It is only 3 minutes long or so. Nothing earth shattering or unexpected in this video from these three detectors that have very similar prices. A surface US nickel, a 4" deep US nickel and a 6" deep US nickel are detected for accuracy and signs of up and down averaging in high iron mineralized dirt. Same for a surface US clad quarter and a 6" deep US quarter. See if you can guess which detector is driving my friend crazy enough to just stop detecting for good.......
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Hi everyone, my first post here! After reading hundreds of posts and watching YouTube videos online for the last 6 months I've decided to choose one of the following detectors: Legend, Deus 2 or the Manticore. I have very little experience in metaldetecting. The only experience I have is 4 months searching on the saltwater beach with a Makro Racer 2 in 2017. Unfortunately I had to stop and now 6 years later ready to start again. My biggest problem is that I can't visit a metal detecting dealer to see and feel the different models. The only place I'm going to metal detect is the saltwater beach looking for coins and jewelry. I don't plan to go in the water (waist, diving). I live about 8 minutes from the beach (by bike) so portability is important to me (backpack and go). These are the configurations I like with their corresponding prices: - Nokta Legend (WHP): 600 euro (nokta offer valid until march 31, 2023 or while supplies last) - XP Deus 2 (WSA2 + RC): 1450 euro - Minelab Manticore: 2000 euro As you can see the Deus 2 is 2.5x times more expensive than the Legend and the Manticore almost 3.5x times. Unfortunately no discounts are possible. If there are no differences between the three models for my situation (searching on the saltwater beach) then I'll look at the other criteria (weight, warranty etc.). If one of the detectors is better but cost 2x to 3x more then that's no problem. So price is not really a problem. Some specs I found online (mainly focused on weight and dimensions): Nokta Legend Weight: 1.4 kg / 3.0 lbs Collapsed Length: 63 cm / 25 inch (with coil?) Warranty: 3 year Headphones: Bluetooth aptX Low Latency XP Deus 2 Weight: - S-Telescopic + Remote + 9" coil = 865 g / 1.9 lbs - S-Telescopic + Remote + 11" coil = 990 g / 2.2 lbs - S-Telescopic lite + Remote + 9" coil = 800 g / 1.8 lbs - S-Telescopic lite + Remote + 11" coil = 925 g / 2.0 lbs Collapsed Length: 58 cm / 22.8 inch and 65 cm / 25.6 inch (equipped with a 9" coil) Warranty: 5 year Headphones: WSA2, WSA2 XL Minelab Manticore Weight: 1.3 kg / 2.9 lb Collapsed Length: 63 cm / 25 inch (with coil?) Warranty: 3 year Headphones: Minelab ML-105 Some positives and negatives: Nokta Legend: + price (much cheaper than the Deus 2 and Manticore) + Bluetooth aptX Low Latency headphones compatibility - weight (heaviest of the three) XP Deus 2: + weight (much lighter than the other three models) + 5 year warranty + choice for a small headphone (WSA2) + backpack 240 perfect fit for deus 2 (portability) - menu learning curve? Manticore: + color screen + navigating menu - only one headphone option Of course there are more pros and cons between these detectors and these can only be answered by people who own these detectors. I really want a high end detector (no vanquish, simplex etc..). Tips and suggestions are welcome!
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I bought a new Legend when it first released, but never tried the 6" coil or the last 3 firmware updates. At the time, I felt the Impact was just as good or better, so I sold the Legend. I really gel with the Impact and the menu settings for checking iffy targets. It has been really good to me and I believe Nokta hasn't discontinued the Impact yet for a reason. The All-Metal modes are pretty sweet. If it was waterproof and had the ability to switch to 40 khz I would be completely satisfied. I was having a hard time with the Legend in iron and didn't see a depth increase compared to the Impact. I even preferred using my modified Whites IDX over the Legend at the time. I know that I probably did not give the Legend enough time, but I really felt like I had a weak unit, so I parted ways with it. I want to do more water hunting and increase my gold/ring finds this year. I may eventually like to target micro jewelry, but it is not a priority. I will mainly hunt fresh water lakes with the occasional trip to a saltwater beach. My soil is mild. I know the Orx is not waterproof, but the detachable remote can be placed in a waterproof bag. I like this concept, and the hidden cord from the coil reminds me of the Impact. I have zero experience with XP or Deus products, so I'm definitely concerned. Should I try the Legend again or take a chance on the Orx? I'm obviously a fan of Nokta because of the Impact, and the Legend is already completely waterproof and capable of hitting small gold. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I would also consider other detectors that would fit my needs. However, I only want to spend about $600, and so far I have had good luck buying used detectors. Thanks in advanced.
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Legend Vs Equinox 900 Park Hunt
Jeff McClendon posted a topic in Metal Detector Advice & Comparisons
I really like both of these detectors. The ground thawed out enough to get in some head to head testing on surface to 7" deep wild targets today (it will freeze over again in two days with 3 to 6" of new snow so boo hoo.) I literally have not been able to wild target test the Legend's new Park M3 mode for both target separation in modern trash and effective depth since downloading the Version 1.10 Beta software a few weeks ago. I have been able to do quite a bit of staged test target comparisons but nothing else. Today was also the first day I have been able to do the same with my new Equinox 900 as far as wild targets at medium depth and wild target separation. So I just randomly picked the Legend to go first on a 40 X 15 yard patch of heavily used and modern trashed West Denver park that has yielded several silver dimes and quarters along with many junk rings and a few silver and gold rings too. This park has given up over 50 wheat pennies and two war nickels for me too. I carefully gridded the 40X15 yard area I chose in the park with overlapping sweeps. This is a park that ate the F75 for lunch due to EMI and 5 to 7 bar dirt (no accurate target IDs unless the targets were within 2" of the surface) along with any other decent single or selectable single frequency VLF detector. Same for the Garrett APEX. The Vanquish models can hunt this park but every non-surface target has an iron halo and it was impossible for them to ground balance. I have hunted this park and the test area recently with Deus 2 and the Equinox 800 with no EMI issues and very stable target IDs even near the edge of detection. It is a west facing sloped park with only a few trees that thaws out before most flat parks here in the Denver area. It is trashed big time with multiple targets under every swing so masking of good targets by foil, canslaw, pull tabs, aluminum screw caps and steel crown bottle caps is a real problem at this park. That trash goes deep in this park too so its not just on the surface. There are bent rusty nails too starting at about the 4" deep level and going way deeper. I had the Legend with its LG24 coil (the coil cover measures 9.75X6") in Park M3, 23 sensitivity, ground balanced at 6, G discrimination pattern, recovery speed was 5, iron filter was 1, iron stability 1, bottle cap reject 1, ground stability 0, 6 tones. Iron mineralization meter showed 5 to 8 bars out of 10 consistently. I was mostly concentrating on coin and jewelry targets in the 15 to 26 ID area and anything above 40 that seemed to be coin sized and had enough 4 way consistent responses to warrant digging. I ended up digging lots of small can slaw, a couple of pull tabs and 41 USA modern coins from surface to 7" deep. There were three targets that I did not dig that were very iffy but potentially were deeper silver. Basically, at the time I thought I had covered the test area really well and that the Legend had also done very well with slightly jumpy but solid enough target IDs and tones. I fired up the Equinox 900 with its Coiltek 9.5X5.5" coil, Park 1 Multi, sensitivity 20, ground balanced at 5, -9 to +99 accepted, recovery speed 5, Fe 1, 5 tones and hunted the exact same area with the same speed and length of swings. I don't swing fast unless I am trying to isolate a target so swing speed was 1 second to the left and 1 second to the right with a flat, close to the ground, three to four foot arc. I was concentrating on targets in the 15 to 27 and above 60 target ID ranges. I immediately noticed the ground come alive with way more targets than I had heard with the Legend. I had the volume levels about the same for both detectors. There were just a ton of targets going off. Most were tiny foil, tiny aluminum or iron falsing with stuttering, incomplete blips which I am very used to hearing on this ground with the Equinox 800. However, I also pulled out 16 more USA modern coins that were in the 4 to 6" depth range from the testing area. Most of these were standing straight up on edge............. There were also a couple of coins near the surface that I somehow just missed. It happens. I also dug several more good sounding pieces of small can slaw that could have been smaller gold rings along with a couple of pull tabs that were screaming at me. The three targets that I had marked with the Legend were also easily hit by the Equinox 900. One turned out to be a 7" deep US clad dime, one was a 6" deep 1957 Wheat penny on edge and one was a 7" deep bent rusty nail (only one of the day). I also only dug one steel crown bottle cap and that was detected with a ton of high tones by the Equinox 900. I was pretty sure it was a steel crown bottle cap but it also sounded a lot like a coin spill. Gotta check those. No jewelry. Very impressed with the Equinox 900s target separation even in Park 1 Multi. The 900 was an absolute live wire even with the settings I was using. Most of those sixteen extra coin targets it found were no doubters even with most being on edge and with the more unstable 900 target IDs. I am still not much of a fan of the Legend's Park M3 recent add on, especially after this hunt. I don't know if this was a separation issue, a depth issue or both. However, just to be clear, I have hunted this exact spot with both the Equinox 800 and Deus 2 and pulled out many coins. Somehow, the 61 coins I dug today were missed by me using those detectors. Or, more realistically, every time I remove a target from a trashed park like this one, a different undug target becomes slightly more unmasked nearby. That could somewhat explain the Equinox 900 finding quite a few targets behind the Legend. However, most of those coins found by the 900 were not near previous disturbed dirt from Legend recoveries.