midalake

4 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

Was referring to the M8, which enables me to maneuver around obstacles.  Def won't be a water machine if I ever do get the Manginot.  

I thought it was the Mantibore????😂🤣

56 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

Well at least they got the coil thing right.

Except for all that internal coil bracing in the picture. Which is gonna really suck in the sand. Fields too. 

On 8/26/2022 at 4:19 PM, Kaolin washer said:

so shy not make the shaft like a sharks tail feathering to a sharp point so you can swing the shaft and coil thru the water with ease from left to right

Well while some "knife" shaft might work great in a stagnant lake, it would not work in an ocean wave condition.
Many times, I find myself coming up or downslope and wave wash is forceful. In the case of the type you are proposing the water forces may be enough to break stuff and would be exaggerated greatly'

As one person stated the key is to decrease diameter. 

Outstanding!!!!

6 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

Looks a lot like the Equinox (note it's multi IQ), but with graphics and a carbon fiber shaft.  How it performs??  I wonder if they'll reveal this at Detectival....  🤞

 

RUT ROH.........Well just a few comments.

As a Water Hunter, I DO NOT like all the coil cross supports. I am guessing field hunters will not like it either.

I am also rather surprised they are going with a hand grip pod after all the problems with beach hunters ripping out the mounting screws.🙄

Great find Dew, keep up the good work! 
Cliff hasn't posted in a while, what Cha do? Bonk him on the head with your scoop and leave him in the trough?  😄

1 hour ago, Xergix said:

I dug small 1.8 gr gold rings with vdi 2 , how many of us would dig a vdi 2?

As a beach hunter, I dig EVERYTHING nonferrous, without exception. I have learned over many years that salt, and black sand can make targets appear differently than other landscapes. If you're going for gold, there is no option to dig everything between 1 and 21. 

2 hours ago, Dancer said:

I didn't wade but at this  beach at these settings the Tar was quiet even with wave slaps. 

I can vouch for the ability of the Tarsacci in forceful moving wave wash. It is fantastic! Unwavering with very little signal/detection interference. 

1 hour ago, Carolina said:

Glad you have a new RC. Not so happy to see how it was handled!!!

Well?
Timeline was good. But the rest of the transaction seemed a little cold. 

Nice haul......LOVE THE CASH!!!! 

Final report:
>Remote shipped Aug 12th
>Upon arrival, tracking conformation stated, "delivered to neighbor" Slightly worried, I sent two emails the next business day for delivery conformation, no response. I called the next business day, and a nice person named Jeff confirmed that they did receive my Remote. 
>August 18th return shipping label created.
>Today, August 23 received a new replacement Remote. No follow-up notes or correspondence.  
Wallet $35 lighter for the shipping fees I had to pay. 

13 hours ago, Glenn in CO said:

Detecting a old mining camp last week and found this item. I believe it is type of tong, but what for as it is small in size. It seems to be made of brass and has a little nickel or silver plating left.

Well, since you were in a mining area, and the grabbing part seems really flat. Maybe it was used for picking small gold out of a pan? 

On 8/16/2022 at 10:14 AM, Bill (S. CA) said:

I am genuinely excited to try this but of course am stuck at work and have to wait...darn it...

How are the Horseshoe Mode "on" testers doing??? 

3 minutes ago, Troy E said:

I’m waiting for a reply back after filling out a submission form to return my Legend.  It’s messed up, jumpy, missing targets, locking up, vdi is way off, something is definitely wrong.  Just bought it a couple months ago so it’s still falls under the two year warranty.

Make sure there is no soil/sand under your coil cover.................If there is, clean it and retest. 

Nice Haul!!! 

11 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Unbelievable amount for return shipping just the remote. They must have a minimum shipping rate with a major carrier other than USPS or they are shipping it one day fully insured....

I am unsure where I am in the warranty process?  I have received no correspondence other than a return shipping label created for $24.26 [UPS]  

I paid $10 to ship to them, and they are charging $24.26 for return shipping. Found this out today. 

4 hours ago, Badger-NH said:

Saying horseshoe mode is confusing because that could mean all metal on or off to different people. To me, horseshoe mode is all metal off.

It seems like we are having a terminology problem? 
Discrimination mode is:  Horseshoe mode off.
All metal mode is:  Horseshoe mode ON. 
 

4 hours ago, Badger-NH said:

I question the idea that all metal would increase depth simply because it's not a true all metal mode. All it does is turn the low tones on and off.

I have literally done 50 wild tests where I have taken what I have identified as a nonferrous deep target in Horseshoe mode on. Then I switch the Horseshoe mode off and look at that same target. Not a sound! Not even a tick! [same settings] I have done this so many times, I don't do it anymore. 

4 hours ago, Badger-NH said:

I can't believe that it would instantly make the Equinox equal to a DEUS II.

My saying is:  it makes the Deus2 reach for capabilities the the Equinox has.  
 

4 hours ago, Badger-NH said:

Maybe in black sand. I wouldn't know about that because we have no black sand on our beaches.

Well, our first testing of the Deus2 we could run Beach in the wet sand/water contact area.
Just a few weeks ago when I took my Deus2 down for the first time, I could not get Beach to function with the amount of black sand we had. I reverted to two different programs, one -Beach Pitch, the other- Dive Mode.  Black Sand is very hard on the Deus2. I don't have a feel, yet for which one will go deeper. {Nox or D2}
I will say a couple of general trends. The D2 has issues giving iron grunts on nonferrous targets and also seems to enhance ferrous targets in Black Sand.    I know what you're thinking, well Dave.......how can it do both?  That was my question too, I was looking for some type of tell, for me to separate items at depth better. I could not find one.
The other generality, after the D2 loses a TID lock on a target good luck figuring out what it is. It is clearly not as simple as one ring for nonferrous and double ring for ferrous targets. [we found this to be true in testing with beach mode and now with black Sand and Beach Pitch and Dive mode. 
Adding third Hunting active wave wash is important and difficult. In the last session I had more time in tough air-entrained wave action. As I suspected originally, the Deus beats the Equinox in this zone. Both in functionality and achieving better depth. 

I did not do a full write-up of this because my Remote was discharging after I shut the machine off. So, I cannot be 100% sure my Deus2 was even working correctly. [though I think it was working correctly] Once my machine comes back from warranty repair, I will eventually get back on it in January. However, my beach usually does not have the same nasty black sand condition at this time of year unless there is a late storm. 

31 minutes ago, Badger-NH said:

I normally run in all metal with 2 or 5 tones. You seem to be saying that all metal single tone has more depth.

You post was unclear as to what mode. As for say one tone or 5 tone in horseshoe mode going deeper, that is not my claim.
I just claim the Horseshoe mode is deeper than discrimination.  I just happen to hunt in "one tone"

Backstory: Briefly I hunted in discrimination mode two tone for about a year. Then at about the same time I figured out horseshoe mode was deeper, and iron targets double rung, and nonferrous targets only produced a single ring. So, when I switched to Horseshoe mode, I went to one tone. 

Outstanding job!!! 

13 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

is the best choice out of no other good choices at the moment using version 0.71

Yes, an important fact Jeff.  Both companies are fine tuning their products. Do we know a real winner yet because of this? 

XP Deus 2 Or Legend....which Do I Keep?

Don't know Jeff, maybe another 20 hours or so on each will bring you closer to a good decision?  GL 😁

2 hours ago, Badger-NH said:

The only way to confirm an increase in depth is by burying some targets at precise depths and checking them using single tone and 5 tone. 

 

One tone or five tone?  You talking about discrimination?  There won't be any difference. The difference is HORSESHOE mode. Horseshoe mode is the deeper mode in one tone!  

1 hour ago, Bill (S. CA) said:

This has really become a fascinating discussion.  For midalake, is the "double ring" you speak of the "ding/pause/ding" that you mention?  In other words, you get a "ding" then a brief pause followed by another "ding?"  I'm having a bit of a hard time visualizing this.

Well my Equinox is 2500 miles away in Mexico.
You do not have to be on a beach to duplicate this!  You get home from work, grab any nail/screw put it on the ground and take a slow swing at it, coil raised about 5".  At some point going around it you will hear a double ring. Many people might mistake this for two targets [but it is not] Also try like a 1/2" steel washer [not stainless]  

Beach2, IB[origional f-6 and recovery 6, Tracking GB, 1 tone, Horseshoe mode on. 

PM me too if your having any other issues. 

 

7 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

it's simply a matter of how stable the mode is for the given environmental conditions that affects the sensitivity setting "breakpoint" where the mode becomes less stable.

Yes of course, and to add to schoolofhardnox thougths. My example was one of my own real-world experiences where I cannot hunt Beach 1 at the same sensitivity as Beach2. 
I fought this for a while in my own head, and conferred with a few experts even getting an opinion from Dankowski. 
Then after some time on my primary beach, it was clear to me that if I could run Beach2 two sensitivity points higher than Beach1 I was better off. At least where I was standing.