Nuke em

I have talked to a dealer that was there and when i put it to them all the possibles only when i said about the Vanquish 340 / 440 / 540 machines did they say who told people about that ? As for other machines . Why would the SDC and GPZ be due ? Only 4 or 5 years old . There is no replacement yet for the CTX and that is 7 years old , the ET is 11 years Safari an updated Quattro is or both them are geriatric as is the Terra . I doubt Minelab would do all replacements in one go . If they did it might be a strain on the R&D department doing that every time. Anyway we will have to see but i am pretty sure this year is all about relic machines and maybe a few coils and things. If you have seen that picture of Minelab machines in a line across with the Vanquish sitting between the Terra and the Nox and have the whole picture with the Gold machine underneath then you will see no other machines due . Or it / they would be there . The GPZ is too high tech to be replaced right now , i guess the machine will be replaced at the same time as the CTX in a lightweight shell in around 3 years time at the latest . I dont envy anyone having one though , that is a heavy machine . Its like going to the Gym to do weights and having to bench press the Gym LOL. The SDC is too new too.

If it works on the salt wet properly that could kill sales of many makes . Might even take sales off the Nox too.

Where does it say 3 detector types ? I have only seen 3 detectors , Vanquish 340 / 440 / 540 . The GPZ and SDC haven't been out that long . The ET and CTX and Safari are old school a bit and do need replacement . I dont think this is going to be a Gold machine year .

I have the 800 and will be taking it to Australia next year . A mate will be taking me to a rally or dig so hopefully i will get a nugglet or two. I will take the small coil too.

I was giving rough prices that we pay too.

A mate of mine thinks its not worth Minelab bringing out a machine less than the Nox . Not everyone can afford a Nox or needs one. I am looking forward to this machine coming , i hope i do want one . I wont put my name down for the early ones . I will wait till i see it out there or in the shop. I will get the Vanquish 540 out of the 3 machines. If its a machine i want.

Its definitely a Terra replacement , its the same here . Dealers are selling Terra's here at low prices . My local dealer has lots of Go Finds . I think it will look the same as the Nox but with different functions and colour maybe and coil ? Its just 3 lower end Nox's i think. But if the 540 works on the salt with 2 or more freqs i will have 1 .

Very interesting . Well that confirms my belief that the Vanquish is Terra's replacement . Interesting also , there are 3 Go Find models , 3? Vanquish models , 2 so far Equinox models . Then what ? Theres the Safari , ET and the CTX . Will there be a 3 tier model for their replacements too ? (Also if they are expanding multi freq across the board then maybe the Vanquish will use both 7 and 18.75 khts together ? ) I hope that the second tier model has all the top end does but without added GPS extras . I only need what i need for finding the targets , but it has to be at least as good as the ET on target info .

It doesn't sell like it used too . I always thought it was underrated myself but also poorly made or lacked a good coil and waterproof housing . The more i think it the more i think it is for the chop when the Vanquish comes. I dont think Minelab has the capacity to make that many different machines and the older ones sales will suffer massively too , so why make them ? The Sovereign and the Explorer SE were dropped when the CTX came out . I think the Safari or and the ET might go this or next year too . They have been dropped quite a bit in price here and they dont sell well and some places have stopped selling the ET altogether unless ordered . Not sure if they even bother and just send the customer to another shop ? Dealers usually have to bulk buy for the best deals or they end up with little profit.

The problem with that Steve is that here in the UK a Nox 600 is around £650 and the Nox 800 is £850 or so. The Terra 305 is around £280 Terra 505 around £100 more and the 705 is around £450 . The prices you quote are Terra prices if sold here . The Terra is 13 or 14 years old and i feel in need of replacement . The pictures on page 3 here show the machines run on 2 of the freqs that the Terra's do and as they have VFlex and IQ i think they might be a replacement for the Terra's . Would be very good if they ran on both freqs at the same time with single as optional . But most of all keep the same numbers and tones as the Terra 705 . The Vanquish in that case could work in the salt wet though maybe not as deep but would be more versatile on beaches in the case of target ID which i find a bit vague on the Nox . Using my Terra i could work the trashy tops with ease and know what i was digging nearly every time but the Nox is impossible with numbers . The Vanquish could be a better machine !! Not in every way but in some. I will buy one if it is what i am after . I have 2 Nox 800 and will sell 1 to get the Vanquish 540 . That would give me almost all round capability for relic hunting with the Vanquish 540 / Equinox 800 and the E.Trac . Thats depending on if i'm right though.

Anything more on the Vanquish machine(s) yet ? I wonder if they will operate on both 7 and 18.75 khts together? If they do they will be good on the salt i think. This machine could if priced right be a major headache for other makers . Even more than the Nox is . Something good like a dual freq Terra and waterproof could eat into Garrett sales . It all depends on the price. I think the info on the Vanquish 340 / 440 / 540 might well be true. A dealer said once that Minelab were working on a Terra replacement . I thought the Nox was it , obviously it isn't . Wonder what else they have planned? That seminar in Sardinia was big. around 200 guests i heard , all for a cheaper machine ? Must be more than that. Roll on.

Like dynamo is an alternator .

Not seen that before. Now i know what its all about . If this is true then the Nox is higher end than the Terra and these Vanquish machines are replacements for the Terra's . Well i doubt i will need one but we'll see. Whats that bit about accumulator about ?

That going by what your saying looks more like a Sovereign / Excalibur replacement than anything else . Looks like i might have hit the nail on the head. So it will be a higher end model than the Nox but lower than the CTX /ET . I bet the ET or Safari go at the end of the year , they are being dropped in price by quite a margin here and the ET is a real hard seller now. Or is the new machine to replace those 2 models ? I hope so and hope it has very much better target info than the Nox and at least on a par with the ET /CTX

But what is it? Tell.

Its not a let down really. Its not meant to be a top end machine. The lack of good target info proves it. It I feel is a very uprated but slightly flawed replacement for the Terra. Unless the Vanquish is a replacement ??

I have been doing digging and i now feel i know whats coming . I haven't heard anything about Gold machines and i know a dealer here that will be getting them in . The UK isn't a Gold nugget hunting Country . So it has to be a new relic machine . I put an idea to this person and he went a bit quiet . This is the idea . The new machine "Vanquish" will be a replacement for the old Sovereign and maybe Excalibur machines . People have for years complained about the demise of the Sovereign and maybe Minelab have finally clicked ? The dealer i mainly go to hasn't let on but i am very good at sussing things and that is what i feel the new machine is. If it is then it wont be a replacement for the CTX . That will come later , the CTX even though heavy and based on older tech hasn't been out for long and i feel its the same for the GPZ 7000 . Does the GPZ sell well ? Anyway i would put a small bet on it that the new Vanquish will be a belated replacement for the Sovereign type. And i and many other will hope so.

If that is the machine in question , that has a big screen the size of the ET / CTX . Tones dont sound very much like the ET but maybe thats because of no headphones. Sounds a bit like the Nox . Looks like its on a straight hopefully 3 piece carbon shaft , cant see the coil well enough but it needs to be 11 inch . Hope the battery is longer lasting too.

Where did the name Vanquish come from ? When I talked to someone in the know that wouldn't go into detail. They didn't deny the name. Vanquish sounds better. Victory is to much Ship in it.

Going by what i have tried to find out and it isn't much . I think its going to be a replacement for the Excalibur . Might be wrong and i would like a replacement for the ET / CTX . But i think the Excal.

I have heard its called the Minelab Vanquish .

So then . Are they still going/gone bust or are they back ?

Theres nothing on there about the Laser detectors they sell.

If your in the UK . If i remember right a local dealer to me has the Compadre in stock , i'm sure they have a few still . If your here call Detecnicks tel . 01243 545060 or look up their site. You need the UK number too .

That could be all their doing ? In that case if they aren't making machines ? as soon as the last machine is sold in the shops they may carry on repairing for the time til the end of the last warranty ? With Tesoro being so quiet how can anyone know ?