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15 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Thanks! Try as I might I can't see the "D" with a loupe, but it sure looks like it in the photo 😀 I'll have to count but my silver count for this year is much higher.

I think I have some of that nickel stuff around, never used it. Wish I could get a date from the shield nickel too. 😵

Sure looks like one, although smooshed a bit. 😄 The nickel date restorer will work on any nickels, but will probably take a couple more applications for the Shield due to it's tiny date.

Beauty of a find. I don't recall ever seeing a 1873 dug before. Nice score!

Nice haul! I love finding SLQ's. Such a nice design and it looks like a Denver mint mark as well. I don't know if they still make a silver date restorer like the nickle date restorer we use on Buffalo Nickles, but I remember using one a long time ago. It brings the date up, but not as easily as the nickel version does. Great hunt.

Beautiful find. So, the Manticore can find gold chains, and it found it without hitting on a clasp. Great find. Low ID numbers I would imagine. That's a nice down payment on paying the Manticore off.

Great hunt. The Manticore grows on you more and more every day! I'm happy with mine as well.

On 2/11/2023 at 9:21 AM, JPS said:

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hello to you, how deep did you find the ring please. it will make a nice gift for Valentine's Day on February 14 (in France), I don't know if it exists in other countries

 

We have Valentine's day too,  here but the thing I found was an earring, not a ring and it is "Bling" which is a fancy way of saying, it's junk!!! 😄 Not real. So if I give it to her for Valentine's Day,  there will be a lot of my metal detectors for sale very cheap and I will have to sleep on your couch for a while 😐 The earring was not very deep, maybe 3 or 4"

I won't watch it. He uses the term "dated and obsolete" on the top of the video for click bate. Dated and obsolete ? Sounds like someone who does You Tube videos. Anyone come to mind? 😆 If you want to know about that company, I though there were videos made by the owner. If I have the right company, it was the one that had that monster coil, but there were other videos as well. I heard something that I didn't like. It think it was that it did not handle EMI very well. Anyways look over some other videos from better sources.

Since we are all bitchin' 😄 I mean rationally discussing our preferences, I just want a waterproof GPX 5000 in a lighter box with an internal battery🤬 If they make it in the shape of a tire tube it will float 😆. No weight at all.

9 minutes ago, Joe D. said:

   That's a scratch, where, I believe, stupid me nailed it!!😵 And it was in awsome near uncirculated condition!!😔

And I'm outta likes today!😔

It almost looked raised up. That would have been a cool error coin if it was. Hey at least you didn't scratch a 1916 D 😲 We all scratch coins sometimes. It makes you very careful afterwards for quite a while 😄

40 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

No problem, yes, I have Andre pencils, and some new ones that look cool but I haven't used them yet. 😀 I will definitely ask him! 👍

Always clean your coppers dry. Use those pencils around the first digits of the date, since you know what those numbers are. Light pressure and in a very minute circular motion. Don't rush it. Just blow off the dirt you've loosen up, as you go. Do other parts of the coin if you are not quite up to doing the last digit. Just my 2cents worth.

I don't have a Legend so I can't tell you much about that, but a lot of guys hunt by discriminating out almost everything, except a slot for nickels and another wider slot just above zinc cents. That includes all copper cents - silver dollar. They usually have a small buffer of 1 or 2 numbers each way to account for ground conditions. So if your nickles read say 12, then they would allow 11, 12, 13. So you would get some gold possibly. Like other said, set your recovery speed/reactivity faster, and slow down you coil speed. I would use a 1 tone of 2 tone program since all the rest is discriminated out, you won't need multi/variable tones. Once you get the hang of that you can loosen up discrimination to include other numbers. You could also try a single frequency if you have that option. You Tube some videos of park hunting with the Legend and see how they do it.

33 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

Wow, what an extabbaganza! 😀 (Now I'll have to fix that next time I want to use the real word) 

You sure show the uninitiated what using a PI is like, the "dig it all" of it.

Great and realistic hunt again. 👍

You can have my tabs 😄 I could never dig it all on that beach 😲 otherwise you would see a lot more iron. Believe it or not that is the cherry picked version. I did pass on a lot of the obvious iron. Yep, PI's are not for the faint hearted. Some people using PI's, take the time and analyze their targets and they probably dig a lot less iron than I do, that's for sure. Most people  who are used to discrimination don't like PI's and go back to their detectors. Most of the veteran hunters have had experience with both (and some with BFO's too) and can handle the differences when needed.

Great hunt! I love barbers (except the ones that want to cut my hair) 😄. Very well rounded hunt. My guess on the half cent is 1808, if not then 1800. Both those dates had the high last digit almost touching the bust. The 1803 was the flat top of the 3 style and not a rounded top, so unless the corrosion made that top part look round, but it really is not, then it can be an 1803. In that condition it will be hard to get that last digit clearly. If you are still pulling out stuff like that, then just imagine what is hiding below or right next to iron 🧐

1 minute ago, Sirius said:

Two people asked me the same question 2 days ago, I just told them I don't watch TV 🙂
It also seems like you pull up a ton of trash with the GPX, but it's hitting those good targets too! Is it difficult to discriminate between ferrous and non ferrous with that detector? Cause I noticed you picked up a ton of iron.
 

Most of the wire iron was with the Manticore. The small single pieces of iron and some of the big iron was with the GPX. When the small iron gets deeper, it's better to just dig it and not waste too much time wondering if it's a deep coin or just iron. I dig really fast, so I just dig it. The pull tabs killed me the most from that hunt - low conductors and not one of them was gold. On the GPX, the low conductors are harder than high conductors to tell apart, because the small iron has a small footprint and won't double beep. The longer pieces will either double beep, or when you circle the coil around target, you will usually hear a bit of sound from two opposite sides of the target. So circle the coil tightly around the target, if its small you will not hit it with the coil and you will hear no sound, but if it's elongated, you will hear a slight sound from 2 opposite sides of the target (like 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions). It's not full proof, but it works when you want to take the time and figure it out.

Nice looking ring. We get those ship spikes up here but ours probably date in the 1800's. You guys go back a bit earlier and can have some gold or silver from them ships as well 😍. But that Mercury is what I am wondering about. Is that line that goes across her cheek raised up or is it a scratch? If it's raised up you have a coin that came from a pretty significant cracked die.

14 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

Even the stock White's TDI/SL and its waterproof sister?  Given your next post, do you mean specifically in magnetic black sand?

Another hard day's work for you while we sit on our couches and watch.    It's amazing how many targets you recover.  BTW, what is that long skinny thing on the right side of the non-ferrous junk photo?

Yep, in most black sands in my area. I should have said that 🙄 I keep forgetting that there are other areas that don't have to deal with that stuff. Lucky (or unlucky) them.  🤔 That long thing is a mystery object. It was still in its sealed plastic sleeve when found. I'm not sure what it is, and it sounded like it has a spring inside of it. I'm not pulling off them caps 😄.

Beach hunt # 23 was at a beach I have not done in years. This is an area that I wanted to try out the Manticore to weed through the junk and also try the GPX to hit targets below the vast amount of cobble that lay exposed in one section of the beach. But as we all know, things don’t always go as expected. First thing I noticed was that the bulldozer was at work and there were many big piles waiting to be spread out on the beach. Sounds like a win-win situation, as that sand must have been removed from somewhere else on the beach. I pulled out the Manticore and started hunting around the big piles. Unfortunately there was a lot of broken wire from the slat type fences they use to keep that sand banks in place. They work well but get busted up quite a bit from big storms. Also, the beach had exposed black sand on its surface. There were older copper cents at 2-3” deep, so I knew there would be better targets there. Unfortunately, the Manticore (like the Equinox) does not do well in exposed black sand. 2-3” on a coin was all I could get. Bummer ☹️  I messed with some of the settings but soon gave up. I don’t know if Minelab is holding back on some of the technology that can make their newest detectors work in black sand or if it’s not possible for Multi IQ and Multi IQ+ to work if black sand is present. Either way, I abandoned the Manticore and quickly fired up the GPX. I went back to the same area and started popping coins all over. Now there are drawbacks to the GPX, since I also started to hit pull tabs at 10+” as well. I figured there must be a gold ring somewhere, but not today. I thought I struck gold twice today, once in a hoop earring and the other was a stunning 5 heart stone earring. Too good to be true. Both were bling and no amount of close scrutiny would put the letter K on either of them. I did get a silver Mercury and Roosevelt, along with a silver ring and earring, so all was not lost. You can clearly see the difference in the amount of coins and jewelry between the Manticore and GPX when conditions get harsher.  😉 The beach has potential, so I may hit it again with the pulse. Now if I can just stop people from asking me if I watch “The Detectorist” comedy series. 🙄

On 2/9/2023 at 12:57 AM, Joe D. said:

   Another great report(s) and finds! Nice to see that the M-core is working into your lineup well!

   With a little "PI inspiration" from you and others, I recently changed my beach lineup as well, with a couple of PI's! Been running a TDI SL & Miner John 7.5x12 coil, with much improved depth, over my 800! And also got a Tesoro Sandshark to back it up in the wet stuff! Don't know if they can compete with the GPX, but they were considerably cheaper!!🤑 Still gotta do some mods to the TDI, to squeeze out even more depth! Than hopfully find your kind of spots to "pillage"!🏴‍☠️ (F350 term)!!😂🤞🍀

Keep up the good work!!🍀👍👍

 

You will gain lots of muscles now that you have PI's. 😄 Any PI will get you more and deeper targets. The key is to use it in areas that have been "cleansed" of the surface targets and where you know there may be deeper targets. You don't have to compete with the GPX, just have to compete against your beach. It's just you against the sand 😉. The TDI can go very deep as well, and it's pretty stable too. I had a beach hunt yesterday where a PI was a must. The Manticore (and the Equinox for that matter), failed miserably at the black sand areas. Could hardly pick up a penny at 2-3" Maybe if I would fool with the individual frequencies I might have gotten 4" 😆, but I'm too lazy and intolerant for that. 😇 back to the trunk you go and out comes the PI to save the day.

I would think that a 6" coil at max sensitivity would be good on the wet slope looking for chains and micro jewelry. Something I may try when the beach is ripped up from a storm, once the big coil is done searching. Nice score on the pair of earrings!

Nice, old finds. That does look like a part of an old (17th century) folding knife. We found a couple of them with that curved, blunt bottom. Are those lead pieces net weights?

I would think (guess) that there are just test points on the boards, and that there is an acceptable range of tolerance that allows a unit to pass. They can't all measure out exactly the same. So maybe some machines are still in the acceptable tolerance range in certain areas and others that are spot on, just like the lab prototypes. But then there is the coil, and that is where I think the tolerance is most important. Put together a unit who's PC board just makes the lowest tolerance level and place a just acceptable coil on it and you have an under performer. Put together the perfect unit with a perfectly balanced coil and you have a machine that just works great. I don't know if that scenario is what is going on, but in my head, it makes perfectly good sense 😆

Awesome find. When you break into the 1500's there isn't much further back you can go around here.

2 hours ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

That's quite an interesting comparison between the Manticore and GPX. Congrats on the gold ring, well done!

Thank you. It really does show what each machine can do in about the same amount of time.  Although not a true comparison, since I can't fire up both machines on a beach at the same time.

2 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Nice hunt!  Congrats on the gold.

Comparing the Manticore to the GPX is probably a test, but you certainly proved it will hold its own.

So I guess you create a scale with your hands and decide whether you want less trash and shallower finds, or more trash and older, deeper stuff? 😀 🤔

Seems to me a win/win either way, but the point is you still can go deep if you want. 👍

Thanks.. Yep, unless a beach is completely sanded in, I'll be running the Manticore first and then going over it again with the GPX. The Manticore still gets me 10-12" if the EMI is mild and the sand is wet and mostly free of black sand. I think it will work well on flat beaches. I'll have to try that on a real low tide sometimes. This tide was a +0.3, so not very low at all.  But if you want deep, the GPX is the way to go. Wet sand I was hearing 15" softly, but solid.

2 minutes ago, DSMITH said:

I was going to give a link where Meril accused Mine Lab of Lieing, but it looks like it has been removed LOL

Minelab reached out to him. He is re doing the video and including answers from Minelab on questions he had. They did not ask him to remove the video. He decided to make it private for a short time and then to delete it and redo it with any corrections or misunderstandings he may or may not have had. We shall see.