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This is encouraging but should have been provided at release. Detailed descriptions & application is always needed/helpful. I'm sure glad Nokta is so responsive to their users.

Excellent

Welcome from East Texas.

Is that type of flint native to your area or was it a trade item? The Indians here in East Texas had Salt to use as a trading commodity. I don’t know what all they exchanged it for but when I was a teenager I found nice point made of black Obsidian. The closest deposits are in far West Texas & New Mexico. To find a spear/atlatl point like yours in perfect condition is amazing.

Continued working the scraped areas Saturday afternoon. No more Halves but another pair of Wheat Cents. The coin finds are still trending older. 1894 & 1904 IHP, 1899 & 1904 Liberty Head/V Nickels and a well worn 1889 Liberty Seated Dime and a nice condition 1900 O Barber Dime. That is the third Seated dime from this site. I'm also very pleased with the IHPs & V Nickels as I don't dig them that often in decent condition as these are. I'm just about to the point I will have to wait for the rest of the scraped areas to dry out to where I can walk without sinking and the hole not immediately fill with water.

Outstanding.

Then why did they purchase the company & rights to it's product R & D?

People are odd critters & you can't change them. You just have to take them as they are.

That is an incredible find.

That is a very nice way to display them.

That would be an extraordinarily heavy bullet at 770+ grains!

I got back to the site for a couple of hours after work Friday. I took the Legend with the LG15/6inch coil to work into the root tangles & depressions that the 11 inch coil on the Versa had to graze over. I did dig another "pair" of Wheat Cents, 1920 & no date, 1 foot apart from each other. Also 2 singles of Silver. On a pad of dirt sitting on top of the brush & timber that had been pushed in to fill the swim pool a first year, 1916 Mercury Dime in very nice detail. No D mint mark. I have had no prior luck hunting what has been pushed into the pools, you can hardly walk on it without your foot going thru and digging in it is impossible. That was a lucky find if there ever was one. No telling how many good targets & nice coins were pushed into that tangled tomb. The second single Silver was on the skinned off walking path. I must have just flat missed it the day before. A very worn 1901 Barber Half Dollar. That makes 4 halves from this site. I will go back this evening. Got to get some chores done & tend the garden a little.

Wonder how hot that was once upon a time for the metal to appear as it does. Nice spherical shape, no streaks & looks very pure.

I sure would like to see Garrett bring forward some of Whites great features & adjustability. An AT Vi would be really something.

Dedication is paying off for you. Nice hunting.

I have more productive sites that can wait so yes, I will stay on this site so I have no regrets. It has been a privilege to hunt there and connect with a past that won't return. Sad to see it all wiped away.

The new BE mode with it’s effective 2nd GB maybe very useful for situations like yours, For shallower targets the Iron Reject works well and the audio is much more understandable. TID is better too. You don’t need high Sensitivity and a small coil will separate well. It is worth experimenting with.

That sounds like an educational & successful hunt to me.

Is it possible that it is a weathered piece of slag from an early foundry?

Exactly, bringing the target out of the Ground. I am finding limited benefit in my mild ground test bed so far with BE mode. In my red dirt mineralized test bed it shows more promise but the audio is not as definitive as it should be. I may just be trying to make it into something it is not supposed to be. Recovery does have a much more pronounced effect on the sensitivity of BE than the normal Park & Field modes. At Recovery 3 there is not much extra depth at all. 2 is noticeably better & Recovery 1 is even better. Even on a 12” Quarter you cannot out sweep the response. In Park & Field you have to be very mindful of over running the signal at 1 or even 2. The Iron Reject tone needs to be 3 to work on an average full nail at shallow depth. At 4 I start loosing audio on fringe targets, at 5 the whole purpose of using BE is defeated. I get no better response than regular Field mode without dt. The TID is not as sensitive or stable as it needs to be even on medium depth targets. If you use anything more than G Disc you lose the Iron Reject tone even on very shallow iron. That seems wrong. It is probably just me but right now it seems / sounds confusing & unsure. The DT setting for Park and Field is much more effective on deep targets than BE in both milder ground and in mineralized ground. It gives intelligent audio and the TID is good enough to be informative. It will stop me on my 12” Quarter and will touch on my 15” Half Dollar. I can make use of that. Hopefully there is room for improvement in the BE mode, or it maybe me that needs to improve.

In doing a little Bench test last night I find Recovery Speed does have a larger impact on BE mode than the normal Tone ID modes, at least in air testing. The overall sensitivity, audio & TID, (in air) is less than the Tone ID modes also on small coin size targets. This may change in mineralized ground. Audio Gain level also has a big impact. This is very reminiscent of the Gen D on my Anfibio Multi. I never could get it to run as well as the normal Disc Tone ID Modes. It just seemed weak The At Max All Metal mode, the MXT Relic mode, Tarsacci Mixed mode & the Rutus Versa Dual modes are much more sensitive and very usable in the field, I still question the absence of a Threshold Tone. It is an important adjustment on the other detectors mentioned(except the Tarsacci). The same for SAT. One thing I will have to remember about BE mode is that the Disc setting acts a a Tone Break and TID block. With the Iron Reject tone, that is really 3 tones to keep up with and how the mode functions & reacts is a pretty good shift from the normal Tone ID modes. I will get on the ground more with it next. I also want to see what the Versa's EMI Preview screen will show for BE mode TX frequency.

I have both books. They are excellent and just as relevant today. They went a long way in getting me started on a solid foundation.

I have been trying to put in as much time as I can on my old swim park site as the window of opportunity is closing fast. The last few hunts have been concentrated on areas the D6 dozer has scraped off the top soil in leveling the site. It is amazing what the removal of 4-6 inches off the top changes. I have dug a fair number of additional targets, all at mid depth to fairly deep. So, 4-10 inch targets + 4-6 inch top soil removal = 8-16 inch original depth of these. I thought this to be instructive. What has surprised me is that of these additional targets, there have been 3 separate pairs of coins next to each other. The first, a V Liberty Head Nickle & an early Buffalo a foot apart, the second, an IHP & early Wheat Cent about 8 inches apart. The next day was my third pair, a 1907 O Barber Half Dollar, and exactly 5 feet away, a 1918 S walking Liberty Half Dollar. This struck me as being pretty neat. Then I realized that each pair are consecutive issues. I think that is really neat. Maybe I can find the other 3 pairs.

That is a good catch TSS found. Something that slipped by XP that needs to be looked at. These newer feature packed detectors can sometimes be a scavenger hunt to figure out.

It is all interesting and it will be some fun to learn how to utilize these new features. I do not think BM is a "Cache" type mode. The response is too quick and there is zero overshoot in the threshold. I'm going to think of it as an improved Gen D which is a motion non disc type of All Metal channel with Iron audio. That will give me a reference to adapt from. I wonder how SAT is being handled? I need to play with Recovery on it too as it may very well be more important than with the traditional tone ID modes. The second Ground Balance seems odd, but would help considerably with Hot Rock/Coke response. I wonder if this idea is an off shoot from their ongoing PI development?