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Placer Gold Deposits of Utah 1973


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Placer Gold Deposits of Utah by Maureen G. Johnson (USGS)

1973 USGS Bulletin 1357, 1.94 MB pdf file, 32 pages

A catalog of location, geology, and production, with lists of annotated references pertaining to the placer districts of Utah.

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      The next day I returned for another 3 hours, this time hunting exclusively on what I considered the most promising part of this site.  Now the floodgates started to open:  10 Wheaties compared to 5 copper Memorials along with $1.85 in larger denomination modern coins:

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    • By GB_Amateur
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