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I have a bank of bench gravels on my claim that is some distance from water, with precarious tailings piles in between. I'd like to take samples along the length of the bank, but I don't want to haul a bunch of heavy buckets across dangerous tailings piles to the water. Then I got this idea. If you open up the Axiom's ground balance window (press and hold the GB button until you get a double beep) and sweep it across a sample area of the bank (lets say 6' X 6") it should give you an average for the mineralization for that sample area. Then you repeat the process taking sample readings along the length of the bank. The most mineralized areas (hottest) that have the highest GB window numbers, may be most likely to contain more gold. I'd then haul buckets from just the hottest areas, reducing my chances of breaking a leg. 🙂 Does the idea of using the GB window to pick the best samples from the most mineralized ground seem sound?

Garrett is pleased to announce that our powerful Axiom pulse induction prospecting detector is now available in a new, affordable option. This new Axiom Lite package, recently introduced in our Australian marketplace, has already proven to be a big hit. Customers receive all the advantages of Garrett’s most powerful PI detector at the best possible price—thousands of dollars cheaper than its pulse induction competition. It’s the perfect way to make a successful start on prospecting without breaking the bank. Axiom Lite Part No: Garrett MSRP: MAP pricing: 1142710 $2,999.99 $2,550 with military discount. Includes Garrett Axiom detector, soft carry bag, 11” mono coil, and coil cover. This is a savings of $1,000.00 off Garrett’s traditional Axiom product offerings. Packages of the new Axiom is now available for purchase in the U.S.. The U.S. military discount (15% off MAP) is available on the Axiom lite.

April 17, 2024 AXIOM LITE Garrett is pleased to announce that our powerful Axiom pulse induction prospecting detector is now available in a new, affordable option for your customers. This new Axiom Lite package, recently introduced in our Australian marketplace, has already proven to be a big hit. Customers receive all the advantages of Garrett's most powerful PI detector at the best possible price—thousands of dollars cheaper than its pulse induction competition. It's the perfect way to make a successful start on prospecting without breaking the bank. Details: Axiom Lite Part No: 1142710 Garrett MSRP: $3,529.99 MAP pricing: $2,999.99 Includes Garrett Axiom detector, soft carry bag, 11" mono coil, and coil cover. This is a savings of $1,000.00 off Garrett's deluxe Axiom product offerings. Packages of the new Axiom Lite will be shipping this month, so please place your orders. The U.S. military discount (15% off MAP $2549.99) is available on the Axiom Lite for dealers who wish to participate. The deluxe Axiom package options are also still available: PN: 1142720 Axiom Metal Detector with 13"x11" DD-FC Coil, 11"x7" Mono Coil, AA Backup Battery Pack, and MS-3 Wireless Headphones PN: 1142765 Axiom Metal Detector with 13"x11" Mono Coil, 11"x7" DD-FC Coil, AA Backup Battery Pack, and MS-2 Wired Headphones

I just spotted this on the new Garrett Direct website: The Axiom is updateable via the same process that is used by the Garrett Apex. The current firmware version is displayed for a split second when you first turn on the Axiom. The top ground balance number will show 01 and the bottom one 47. A blank position in the bar across the top in the final .2 part. The graphic below shows what I see when I turn my Axiom on. It is so fast you might have to do it repeatedly to take in all the info. If you so much as blink you will miss it. And just so nobody asks, I'm not involved in or testing any updates so can offer no clues as to what is in the works.

April 17, 2024 AXIOM LITE Garrett is pleased to announce that our powerful Axiom pulse induction prospecting detector is now available in a new, affordable option for your customers. This new Axiom Lite package, recently introduced in our Australian marketplace, has already proven to be a big hit. Customers receive all the advantages of Garrett's most powerful PI detector at the best possible price—thousands of dollars cheaper than its pulse induction competition. It's the perfect way to make a successful start on prospecting without breaking the bank. Details: Axiom Lite Part No: 1142710 Garrett MSRP: $3,529.99 MAP pricing: $2,999.99 Includes Garrett Axiom detector, soft carry bag, 11" mono coil, and coil cover. This is a savings of $1,000.00 off Garrett's deluxe Axiom product offerings. Packages of the new Axiom Lite will be shipping this month, so please place your orders. The U.S. military discount (15% off MAP $2549.99) is available on the Axiom Lite for dealers who wish to participate. The deluxe Axiom package options are also still available: PN: 1142720 Axiom Metal Detector with 13"x11" DD-FC Coil, 11"x7" Mono Coil, AA Backup Battery Pack, and MS-3 Wireless Headphones PN: 1142765 Axiom Metal Detector with 13"x11" Mono Coil, 11"x7" DD-FC Coil, AA Backup Battery Pack, and MS-2 Wired Headphones

After owning the axiom for about 8months and only using monos with great success I decided to treat myself in a trashy site to only digging non ferrous targets and hey it worked! In middle of about 20 pieces of trash I could clearly hear something shining thru, low and behold 10 or so beautiful gold pieces. Half went with a friend that was with me, my half in the picture. Ended up digging every target in the pike for 2 day as I thought we were on some high grade ore but all the gold was sitting right on top with lots of trash.lol

I know quite a few people have been wanting this, and many have been asking X-coils if they were going to do it, and it turns out they have been working away on it in the background experimenting with sizes and types of coils, and the first to be introduced is the 8" DOD coil compatible with the Axiom. 8" would be the coil I'd want the most for sure. A big bonus and something X-coils in particular wanted to take advantage of was the Axiom's discrimination abilities and by being a DOD design this makes that possible. It also detects along the entire length of the coil being a DOD. This coil is just plug and play, no adapters required (THANK YOU GARRETT). It's currently not for sale, I can't imagine it will be long until it is.

Condor and I met Andy out in the desert during a brief spell of good weather for a little detector testing and nugget hunting. Andy put together some good video footage during the trip of the Axiom in action.

The Axiom has had quite a significant price drop in Australia by calling it the Garrett Axiom Lite and dropping back to a single coil although the coils are quite inexpensive anyway. Now at 5 grand Australian, they're saying the Lite package RRP is $6299, but selling for $4999. They're still trying to get $7385 for the full package though, super expensive, I think. Better to buy the lite and whatever other accessory from the full you want; I'd skip the headphones and just get a Bluetooth transmitter for 30 bucks if it were me and use headphones or in my case the Avantree Torus I've got already. I've been monitoring their stock levels which for what appears to be a poorly selling detector (In Australia) they should never display; it's hovering at 2 detectors of the full package. They must think the lite package is going to sell more, they have 37 in stock of it. This is direct from Garrett Australia, Axiom Lite 11" Mono (garrettaustralia.com.au) We will be able to monitor how well its selling by looking at their stock levels, see if it goes down from 37 at any point soon. It will be interesting to see if this new pricing model helps with the uptake of it in the Australian market, although with other players now in the game also there it may end up more difficult than just this price drop and they may need to go a fair bit further yet but a step in the right direction for sure, hopefully it helps them get more sales in Australia so we can see how it performs in Australia more so than we've been able to see so far with very limited users, especially on social media and forums. Update - 12 March 2024 New Zealand is now also offered the Garrett Lite package!

Good deal on axiom with 60th anniversary discount coupon

I like to be prepared when I go into the field. I always carry extra coil bolts and washers. Does anyone have a link to where these can be purchased? Trying to look them up all I can find are Garrett AT series bolts and washers.

I've been charging the Axiom for about 10/11 hours. It's still flashing. If I unplug it and turn it on it shows a full charge. If I plug it back on the charger it flashes. It did this the first time I charged it also. The second and third time no issue. should I just unplug it?

I took it out for the second time today to do a little day trip. I'm liking the Bogenes program. I can't believe how small some of the bits of rusty iron are. Head of a pin size. I have no doubt the Axiom will find tiny tiny gold running Bogenes. As for today I managed two pickers.

This is a link to a video of a Axiom running a 13 inch DD coil. I did a Factory Reset and ran the same ground balance a second time with the same results, the ground did not seem extreme, it was basically mostly Granite rock on a hillside with maybe an inch of loose soil blown on the surface. The target was on the surface and was likely a small 22 pistol size bullet half smashed. It was as if the target had been mostly Ground Balanced Out, BUT there were no other targets anywhere near by, it only acted like it did in Fine Mode. I could understand it if the ground somehow ground balanced very closed to the bullet reading, BUT it did not ground balance the same in any mode other than Fine. Bug in Fine Mode Balancing.? Odd. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5PAE8CR6fKQarSf18

I have seen rumors of some third party coils for the Axiom, But are any really available now.? If so how do they compare to what the factory selection is.?

I've had the Axiom for a about 2 months now and up to this point have just been testing it against other PI's on gold nuggets. The weather looked good enough to head to the Nevada desert this last weekend, so I asked Steve & Steve if they wanted to meet up. They agreed. Weather was a little cold at night, still in the upper 20's low 30's, but day time temps were mid 60's. Perfect metal detecting weather! Steve has been using the Axiom for quite some time now and has always said it really is a great PI. I have to agree, especially if you're looking for a multi purpose PI to use not only gold nugget hunting but relic or beach hunting. I really look at the Axiom as being a great replacement for the now discontinued GPX 5000. The Axiom is far better on small gold than the GPX 5000 IMO and hands down just a better setup overall. It's real nice to have all the functions right there available at you finger tips. Wireless headphones, rechargeable battery that lasts 2 days and great ergonomics just add to the appeal. One thing that's real hard for me to do it put time in on a new metal detector when you're at a site you've used other metal detectors on the past that have a proven track record. I had the Manticore and GPX 6000 with as well. So forcing myself to use the Axiom for 4 hour stretches at a time was hard to say the least. Especially when there was gold being found by others in the party. But using the Axiom did not disappoint and I can confidently say it will find both small and big gold about as good as any other PI's I've used. I used the 7x11 DD coil the entire trip, my settings for the most part were fine gold, sensitivity at 5-6 and threshold at 15. First nugget I found with the Axiom came on day 2 as I was exploring some new ground I hadn't detected over before. I saw a dirt pile a few hundred yards away so worked towards it. About 10 feet away from the pile I got the first signal I'd heard in probably 20 minutes. Turned out to be a .16 gram nugget at about an inch. The second nugget came on the morning of day 3 about 3 hours before I had to leave. I was hunting some large piles of dirt that had lots of junk in them. Got a loud high tone that I figured was going to be trash, but dug it anyway. Turns out it was a large 4.1 gram nugget. Man did that make my trip. Obviously I dug a lot of other junk targets on the trip. But when you're digging bird shot, aluminum foil and small wire you know a machine is capable of finding small gold. Best thing about the trip is everyone found gold. I'll let Steve and Steve chime in if they want with their finds.

I went out for two days in the NV desert to use my new Axiom. I played with the setting for the first day trying to figure out the machine and what it was telling me. By the end of the day I was running a negative threshold. Day two I spent the morning in an area that looked promising. Tons of quartz and thermally altered schist with veins of quartz mixed in. This area was absolutely silent except for a 22 bullet down about six inches. I decided to give Rye Patch district a go on the way home. The Axiom ran so quiet in the morning I thought I was way off on what I was doing. At Rye Patch I started picking up minuscule bits or iron. I was also finding tiny fragments of bullets. I met a fellow detectorist while I was there. He was using the 6000, a 4500 I think, and a goldmonster. Preferring the 4500 over the 6000 which he said was giving to much feedback with the underlying clays being so wet. Since I was finding so many little fragments and bits I knew the machine was working as it should. When I found a target I would scrape the top 1-2" and check to see if it moved. Most of the little bits were surface. A few troublesome pieces of wire were 4" down. It was getting late and I was still working on the skunk. I was headed back to the truck and got a nice hi low sound that gave a similar result when I turned on it. I scratched off two inches and it sounded better. Went to 4" and it sounded better. At 4" I was hitting some rocks. I pried the first one out and poked the nose of the coil in the hole. The sound was so good. I pried the second rock out and stuck the coil in the hole. Nothing. Checked the rock and it's a fantastic signal. I scraped the clay off the rock and ran that glob over the coil. I had it. My first nugget ever! Update of first impression. The Axiom battery seems like it will run forever. It dropped 1 bar day one and 1 bar day two. I did re-charge it overnight. The arm cuff felt tight the first night I tried it but it flexed into a good fit. The Zlink headphones will drop out if not positioned properly. The settings I settled were 7 and -7. Very little ground noise.

I find the speculation that the E1500 will somehow outperform detectors costing much more money to be, well, how to put this nicely… questionable at best. If this detector was GPX 6000 class it would be stupid to sell it for one quarter the price of a GPX 6000. I don’t think Alex is stupid. Here is the current price structure in Australia as of today after Garrett just introduced the lower priced stripped down Axiom package: 1. GPZ 7000 $10,499 2. GPX 6000 $8,999 with two coils 3. Garrett Axiom $4,999 with one coil 4. SDC 2300 $4,399 5. E1500 with Sadie & Battery $2649 6. Minelab Manticore $2499 7. Gold Monster $1299 I have pretty solid information in hand indicating that you are going to get what you pay for. The E1500 is a very affordable option at close the price of a top end VLF and will outperform said VLFs on gold in mineralized ground. Time will tell but I think the E1500 will fall short of SDC 2300 and Axiom level performance, essentially being a bridge between VLF detectors and those models. The 6000 and 7000 will continue to rule the roost but at twice the price of the SDC/Axiom level you are not getting twice the depth. Pulling a number out of my ass I’d assign a very debatable expectation of about a 15% increase in overall performance at each major step up in price. People can of course argue that number all day long but I think it is very important to give newbies some sense of reality. Twice the money does not get twice the performance. Gains are more like 10% - 15% - 20%…. pick your number, but it’s not double, triple, quadruple. If I was still selling detectors I’d explain to this new customer that they can go find a gold nugget with a Gold Monster or a Manticore. I’d explain that for not much more than a Manticore they could get an AlgoForce E1500 and be able to deal with mineralized ground and hot rocks that will give the VLF models real trouble. I’d tell them that for substantially more money they could get some very solid bang for the buck in the Axiom/SDC range, a step up from E1500 but still not top tier. Finally, I’d tell them that if money is no object and they simply want the best performance they can get, to look at the 6000 or 7000. I’d comment that out of the box with provided coils the 6000 would have the edge for smaller gold, and the 7000 the edge on larger gold. Adding aftermarket coils (and more money) to the 7000 can close the gap between it and the 6000 on small gold, but nothing you do to the 6000 will have it hitting the big stuff as deep as the 7000. That would be my short and sweet sales presentation and I offer it up as the most simplified big picture no B.S. look at the scene as you are likely to find. My somewhat educated opinions only, feel free to toss in trash bin if you don’t agree. In the States this would be the situation if the E1500 could be had here, updated 5/1/24 with new Axiom option: 1. GPZ 7000 $8,999 2. GPX 6000 $6,499 with two coils 3. SDC 2300 $3,599 4. Garrett Axiom $2,999 with one coil 5. E1500 with Sadie & Battery under $1999 6. Minelab Manticore $1699 7. Gold Monster $799

I received and set up my Axiom last night. I've charged it and turned it on in the backyard. Runs fairly quiet in the backyard and it's going to take some time to get used to using a PI. The arm cuff needs some work. The cuff is quite small and I am unable to use the Velcro strap as it's definitely too short. Maybe Herke(sp) makes an aftermarket cuff? Brass Medic also notes this cuff issue in an unboxing he does on YouTube. If someone can let Garrett know that larger people have a fitment issue they might adjust the cuff size? Trial run in the NV desert tomorrow.

I'm planning on going out this upcoming week for a day or two to run the Axiom for the first time. Of the two coils that it comes with the 13x11 DD or 11x7 mono what coil is the best one to start with near the Rye Patch placers? Which coil gives the best depth?

Anyone know off hand what size i need for the torx screws on battery box. Smallest i currently have is t9 its smaller than that. Thanks

I've been reading the forum for a bit. I've decided on purchasing an Axiom as my first PI machine. I've read the Axiom forum and ergonomics is important to me. It seems like a good first PI with an intuitive menu. I do have a few questions? is the control and battery compartment water resistant? Will it withstand rain? Does the axiom come with wireless headphones or do I need to purchase the Z link separately?

Just a video I found comparing the 2. I suspect his .01 g nugget was actually a 0.1 g.

Hi Jeff, An update...2 of us have sent our Axioms back and waiting for a response. I hadn't heard anything after a week so emailed Garrett Australia. I got this "We have received the machine and I will be testing through the week." - so obviously we are not a priority to them. I spoke to a Garrett dealer last week and mentioned the issues, he remained tight lipped and just rolled his eyes and said he was about ready to rip their sign off the wall. I also spoke to a detector repair technician and again, same response - they didn't think much of them at all indicating their performance was sub par to the price. Word obviously is getting around and Garrett don't seem to be interested in listening. From what I can see - their ground handling ability is the first major problem and without that, not much else will work. Being that the majority of detector basics come from a component level - looking for a software fix isn't going to be easy without changing the electronics. The GPX 6000 has a lot more that needs to be corrected than the EMI speaker system fix. That's just the official recognized problem. A company called Detectormods here in Aust. offers the upgrades at a rather steep fee $$$. https://detectormods.com/news/20/all-about-the-new-2020-upgrades The guy "Woody" had a YouTube channel and explains further short comings of the 6000. Be aware, he rambles on for about an hours to part with 15 minutes of actual information. To his credit, I applied some of the mods from one of his videos to my old 7000 and is ran so smooth and quiet, I had to "kick the coil" to see if it was still on. I run bogenes so is dead quiet till it hits a target. ..........."Basically, I feel ripped off by these two giants of the metal detecting industry more often than not."............... At least with the GPX 6000 you have options and a company that admits some of the detectors faults. As for the DD coils, people are always talking about needing them and our coil manufacturers "usually" listen....eventually. I'd say hang in there and maybe contact Nugget Finder, Coiltek and X-Coils to see where they are at? Garrett just plain deny there is any problems although they always counter with "we are happy to test the detector for any possible issues" then get our detectors back "No Fault Found"???? I'd strongly suggest selling the Axiom and use the 6000 until a successor for the 7000 comes out - which could be some time yet. Maybe even send it over for the mods to fix the issues with the money from the Axiom, you will be happy you did! I'm pretty sure that is currently the only place offering them. Ahhh, the life of a detectorist..............................