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  1. Many years ago, I was keen to buy a Compass AU52 via Ebay but missed out by getting outbid on the last 5 seconds. I always wondered what I missed out on....anyone out there owned one, used one or still has one? I'd luv to know how well it runs and whether it matched the Gold Bug 2.
  2. DeepTech is introducing a metal detector very similar to what Tesoro might have done if they had updated the Tejon - check out the new DeepTech Vista X. 16 kHz with fast switching dual discrimination controls.
  3. New Rutus name will be ATREX. What's new you'll find in Atrex? The first novelty in the Atrex is the availability of two types of software that the user can change himself in an innovative way. "Basic" for those looking for a user-friendly detector and "Advance" for users who want to control every aspect of the device. There is no need for cables or special applications that the user has to install on his laptop to change the software. Everything is operated wirelessly using WiFi and an ordinary web browser, so that the software can be changed even in the field using a phone. More advance software may develop in the future. Multifilter is the second important thing. Wherever the ground is highly mineralized and it hinders the search, Atrex has an "ace up its sleeve". The Multifilter is an algorithm that runs in the background of the detector's normal operation. If a small object made of non-ferrous metal can be signaled by normal ground filters, i.e. there is no problem with the ground - nothing is happening, the detector works in the classic way. If the signal from the ground is greater than the signal from the object - the Multifilter, based on the data archived for the last tens of milliseconds, can reconstruct the approximate ID of the object and signal the non-ferrous object. The effectiveness of detection of non-ferrous metal objects in heavily mineralized soils increases very significantly. We have verified it in reliable field tests and there is no doubt that the theoretically developed "Multifilter" works in practice. Next new feature is the ability to neutralize the effects of water on search. Neutralization does not mean "masking" the problem. Electrically conductive water has different characteristics than metal objects. If we "stimulate" the water with several frequencies, it turns out that we can easily "subtract" the signal from the water, and the signals from metal objects can be further processed. With Atrex, you can walk on wet beaches, swamps and peat bogs just like you would on dry sand. Another novelty is the Noise level preview screen. From now on, choosing the operating frequency will be easier. Just turn on the preview screen and select a frequency where there is no interference. The new color display is very little susceptible to the effects of low temperature and always works just as fast. Atrex will contain all the functions that are in Alter71. A new wireless receiver with a built-in rechargeable battery will work with Atrex. We expect to release Atrex on foreign markets at the end of the year. Rutus Atrex https://www.rutus.com.pl/en/page/60/atrex-2 SPECIFICATIONS Built-in Wi-Fi module for software changes Built-in wireless audio transmitter working with OS-2 Color TFT display Weight with batteries (6 AA cells) and black coil - 1630 g Weight with batteries (6 AA cells) and white coil - 1770 g Working time from 20 to 40 hours ADVANCED SOFTWARE (factory) Frequency adjustable between 4.4kHz and 18.4kHz in steps of 0.2kHz Automatic Ground Balance 9 factory programs + 5 users Modes of work: Motion with discrimination, All metal, Dual Sensitivity - 99 levels Discrimination: range 0-120 or -90 +90 Notch - 180 notches Hot rock adjustment Reaction speed (ground filters) - 8 levels Multifilter Noise level preview Water Reject Short signal masking - 7 levels Threshold level Threshold tone Threshold sensitivity (All metal channel) VCO (20 levels) SAT Audio gain Iron volume 6 factory preset sound profiles + 3 user programmable sound profiles ID type (range 0-120 or -90 +90) Display information hold time ID gain Volume Backlight Pinpoint Rutus Atrex Operating Manual
  4. Ok new IB baby. I will try it soon. Thank you Georgi!
  5. DeepTech has announced a new 8" solid round Concentric coil for the Vista X. I am looking forward to seeing how this improves an already excellent Iron machine.
  6. Hi guys just wandering if anyone knows the value of a Troy shadow x5?
  7. By nature I like to improve things for the better. I took a real liking to the Bliss V5 but, it needed something. Decided to replace the scratchy GB pots. Fine adjust pot is bad between 3 and 7, worn carbon wiper inside. Replacing with RV6 precision mini pots. I was going to use a 10 turn for Coarse pot. That idea was shelved as they don't make them in the 500R ohm range. Both pots will be single turn. What I clued in on awhile back and then saw some one mention on a forum regarding the Gain pot. For the most part you don't need to set it higher than 2. And would like the 0-2 or 3 range spread out further. That was my thought as well. So I will be replacing the linear pot with an audio taper pot. It spreads out the range over half the pot rotation, super fine tunes the lower numbers. I will be measuring out the spread between the linear and audio pots to see the exact spread. The V5 is now open and taken apart. Will have it ready this weekend. Will also see if there are any other improvements that can be made.... I did make a very positive s-handle mod. The angle of the handle was a bit too steep, it would tend to bother my bad wrist after awhile. Not enough so I could not keep detecting. The most comfortable s-handle I found was the White's Space Saver (What they call it). Which I have used for all my Pi builds. With a bit of muscle power, bent the Blisstool s-handle to match. This little mod, that didn't cost a penny made a huge difference. Search coil 7x9", balances just about perfect, and now has a wonderful feel about it. =============================================================================================== Update Made the Coarse and Fine GB pot changes to precision pots. Big difference. The usual cheap carbon pots used like most detectors had poor resolution as you turn the control. I watched on the voltmeter, when you rotate the Blisstool pot, a slight movement jumps the settings about 10 points, you you will never get precise GB setting. That's why trying to GB is very touchy. With the new precision pots a slight rotational movement of 1 point increase in settings can be made. This should definitely help out manually ground balancing, getting a spot on GB. Second change was the Gain control. I switched the Blisstool cheap pot with another basic carbon Alpha brand pot (Tesoro, etc. used them). Instead of replacing it with an identical "Linear' taper pot, it was replaced with an "Audio" taper pot. Since most will run around 2 or 3 on the dial. The rest of the rotation is wasteful. With the new pot orig Gain setting from 0-3 is now spread across 0-6. You can now dial in more precise Gain where you need it. Then ramps up closer to the orig. pot. Also shows a bit more added Gain at 10(max). Thinking some of the other controls might benefit from switching to a precision pot or an Audio Taper pot. For those that have a Bliss in the closet gathering dust, some easy modes might just make the Bliss owner a more happy user. Hoping to get out with the V5 Sunday afternoon for a test run
  8. Spec's don't look bad, curious on performance and control features. https://www.seriousdetecting.com/product/air-metal-detector-the-smart-bluetooth-metal-detector/?goal=0_0b451a6847-e8b7bd7836-159565445&mc_cid=e8b7bd7836&mc_eid=1b80072cca
  9. There has been a lot of discussion on metal detectors vs each other lately, and brands being discussed in less than positive ways. I wanted to get a gauge of just how popular certain brands really are in the big wide world with the general public not just hard core enthusiasts that tend to use forums, so the best way I could come up with that is not an "opinion" was to check out how many people like each particular brand on Facebook as an indication of how popular brands are, and how large their official users groups are. I know quite a few of the people here don't use Facebook so may find this information informative as it's something they may not see otherwise. To make it simple I just searched for the brand name, and am basing it on the search results which gives the Official group along with the first three private groups that show up under it on the search results. Starting with Garrett, one of the older players in the game. Garrett seems to be doing pretty well there, 39,000 people like their business and the non-official group second in the search with 27,000 members. Hardly small fry. Next up is Minelab and a result there surprised me, I'm not sure what Facebook uses to order the groups, be it the last one to get a post or who knows, but that's not overly the point, the point is the popularity of the actual companies in question and if something looked odd I searched for the product individually to make sure it wasn't missing anything important, the main point is the company popularity overall anyway, not individual models from each company. Minelab didn't show the Equinox in the search results so to keep it complete I've added that in from pressing the see all to show it up, I know it's something people would have some interest in seeing how it compares. There are many Equinox groups, but this seemed to be the top one. As you can see, 335,000 people like Minelab, the groups that show up surprised me with the CTX being there but not the Equinox, again I have no idea how Facebook chooses the order of the groups under the official group it displays. Interestingly with Minelab the VLF groups overall in numbers combined are far more popular overall than the PI/GPZ gold groups, it might be why Minelab stated in their annual report they were now trying to greatly increase their market share in the coin/jewellery type detectors over the coming years with new releases, a big market where they can gain numbers quickly. Next up, XP. I had to edit this one as the new Deus 2 group didn't show up in the search listing so I just found it manually and added it on the bottom to be more fair seeing it's their new hit product. Although XP overall only has 19,000 likes for the official company page the interesting thing is how quickly the XP Deus 2 Group gained numbers, 11k already, that's great going for a small amount of time, obviously a lot of interest in it. Next up is First Texas, this was a challenge as they go by so many sub-brands so I had to search for brands individually too. You'll note there are no private groups showing up for First Texas, just the main group with 1600 members and 8 posts a month. Quite a quiet group. Next was a direct search for Teknetics, very small numbers, the Eurotek Pro more popular than the T2 for members but only 10 posts a year vs 2 posts a week on the T2. The search for Fisher was a surprise, I expected to see some Gold Bug in there, and the F75 but zip, nada, nothing! The Fisher family whoever they are seem to almost be as popular as the detectors. The Impulse has rather large numbers considering it's very limited awkward release. And last but not least was Bounty Hunter, I guess no surprise they're their most popular brand being the cheapest and likely best selling detectors in their lineup. That's more like it, 3100 members and 4 posts a week, people are out there using Bounty Hunters. Getting to the less mainstream brands, my search for Rutus came up a disappointment, I really thought it would be more popular in the European region. Unfortunately for them Garrett takes the first position on their search, with Minelab coming third when I used "Rutus metal detectors" for the search term, with "Rutus" alone I found nothing to do with metal detectors. The Aussie QED has quite a good following, far more people following it than actual QED's exist. Now for Nokta Makro, I'm not sure why their official page doesn't say how many people like it, rather odd, maybe a setting they can disable? As I was so surprised not to see the Simplex mentioned I clicked the see it all to see what else pops up The numbers once again were far lower than I expected. I honestly though the Legend would be far higher than 2500 in one group and 1000 in another, when people from one group are likely to also be in the other, but even combined only approximately 3500 members compared to the XP Deus at 11,000. I honestly expected the other way around with the XP being far more expensive and what I assumed was a less popular brand, I was clearly wrong. Tesoro has quite the following with approx 2000 likes. According to their Facebook page they still exist as a business. 🙂 If it wasn't for Bounty Hunter Tesoro are more popular than First Texas detectors. And last but not least another dead company Whites, I was surprised how popular they are/were as I'm a relatively new comer to detecting and didn't know much about their models. Garrett takes their top search position being the new owner I guess. I'll end it there, sorry if I forgot any brand someones interested in, I just did the main ones I could think of. I hope someone finds this interesting, I sure did. Based on these rudimentary results the list of popularity with Facebook users goes Minelab by a country mile. Garrett a distant second a few laps behind XP a lap or two behind Garrett Whites on XP's tail being carted around the track on a gurney by Garrett. Nokta and First Texas crossing the line near each other Tesoro a lap behind the First Texas designs but doing well seeing it died during the race. QED doing quite well for its market share but stumbling across the line second last Rutus at the back of the pack, hopefully picking up the pace on the next race. This is by no means a performance ranking, more of a general public brand name popularity ranking based upon Facebook searches.
  10. Hello all, I recently saw someone state that they didn't fully understand why they sometimes get the urge to buy a certain detector! And for one reason or another, fail to pull the trigger, or asking the question of why not! I, like many here, have questioned why i would want to purchase; and have purchased, what would "technically" be an "inferior" detector! If there is such a thing; they all find stuff!! I think the reason's are as numerous as one can imagine! So i won't bore everyone with what i think their reasons are! I can only speak for myself! Probably my number one driving factor are places like this forum, and other sources for research! Once you really start to get the "bug" for detecting, you begin to understand that it can go beyond just finding treasures! In fact, my reading, and quest for information, far exceeds my actual detecting hours! Of course, there are also "real life" reasons that prevent me from getting out there as often as i would like! But instead of that being a negative; and me being bitter about it! I funnel that energy into trying to soak up more knowledge to make my actual detecting hours more productive! Many here will understand this! So, for those thay are unclear what that has to do with buying older, or less advanced detectors, i will explain! Like many, i detected a few years when i was young! Stopped for a career, and family; among other reasons! And got back to it, a few years before my retirement five years ago! Not being involved for all those years, i went with a new detector; among others i researched at the time! Now fast forward to today! I'm much more knowledgeable than seven years ago; detecting and theory wise, but have barely scratched the surface! I own several detectors for various functions! Some overlapping each other a bit in operation! A few others are just for fun, or for something i feel i missed, in my absent years! Other's were too good a deal to pass up! And I could get a good return for, if i chose to! So, to summarize! In my opinion, the longer your in it, the wider range of technology, legends, varations, etc... you are likely to buy, and try, for no very practical reason! Cost not withstanding; as you advance in this hobby! Or as some jokingly refer to it as a "sickness ", or "obsession "! 🤩 👍👍
  11. I read on another forum this morning where DeepTech had posted that they are changing the current 5 Pin coil connector to a 6 Pin design. Evidently to facilitate better alignment and prevent damaging the connection. Was hoping to see it also posted here. Are they a member?
  12. I looked at my old photos from Laos and there is one with a metal detector in it - a UXO team clearing a village. Would anybody know what detector they have used?
  13. The ground is too dry & hard on my red dirt sites right now so I re hunted a deep sand site that was in cultivation long ago. I ran the Vista X with the 12X14 Demon coil. Targets are sparse, but what is left is deep or masked by iron. Nothing noteworthy found but I was impressed again at the ability of this bigger coil. Excellent depth even on very small targets. 22 short case @ 8", .22 bullet about the same. Of course I also dug a half dozen bent cut nails at 10-12" but that's okay too. Even when I moved into the nail bed areas the coil showed surprising separation. I dug an iron backed overall button that I know I had been over before. It didn't sound good but it did sound "not as bad" as the nails. That's what I'm down to on this site. But the digging is easy and it was nice to be out. I would like to ask Steve to consider a separate Forum for Deep Tech detectors. I think they are that good.
  14. Worked very well in bad ground, lite weigh housing, Auto ground trac, pinpoint, three tone options, visual target I.D. and depth reading down to 10". I may take this one with me to the After life.
  15. hi iam looking for one of these they are made by allied and the part number is L091 i cant find them on the website
  16. Sites not loading here and their forum seems to be gone.
  17. Air Metal Detectors, a machine that uses your cell phone as a passive remote, is now a reality. It has existed in prototype form for years now, but has finally entered production and now is in the hands of some backers. Backers of its Kickstarter campaign will be first in line, so it may be months before the general public can get our hands on one. Below are some photos of an unboxing. Instantly it reminds one of the XP Deus in many ways. It also functions similarly with the main hardware stuffed in the coil while your phone replaces the remote. This unit is around 7khz if I remember correctly, so it this model is neither selectable nor multifrequency, but the inventor has said he plans for his next machine to be multifrequency. This machine faced many hurdles before the inventor was finally happy with it. So it will be interesting when the first reviews pop up. What do you think of the concept?
  18. One of the things I like most about VLF's is their target ID's. I'm amazed with detectors being able to ID targets. Where I hunt I prefer to dig as few holes as possible so I heavily rely on Target ID's. My front yard is the most difficult place around my area for coin's to ID well, it has the EMI of my house nearby, the worst seems to come from my long range wireless router, I'm also abut 100 meters away from some high voltage power lines that carry power from the nearby windmills to the town. Once away from my front yard the results of this test do not change much, the ones that shine in this test are even better away from the EMI and the ones that struggle in this test while they do improve their overall performance ranking on Target ID's doesn't really change. What I've done with this video is tweaked the detectors the best I know how to handle the EMI with as high sensitivity that keeps them stable and gives their best hope of a good ID, some run fine maxed out in sensitivity while others needed high disc to operate. If I lowered the sensitivity anymore on the ones that are struggling with the EMI they would no longer detect the deeper of the two targets so I have to allow some EMI interference to get that deeper target. I've put white rocks on the grass where the two targets are located. The target on the left side is the deepest at about 8" while the right easier target is the same coin at about 6". They've been there around 2 years. Both are NZ $1 coins. 1 dollar coin specifications Alloy Diameter (mm) Weight (g) Edge thickness (mm) Edge treatment Aluminium-bronze 23 8.00 2.74 Intermittent milling Not all detectors are running equal coils, this is part of the equation of course on how well they perform. While the bigger coils get more depth and can accurately get ID's often better than the littler coils they do suffer more from EMI and also on the deeper target they're often more affected by the nail that is about 4" in front of the deeper of the two coins. The entire area of lawn is covered in roofing nails from when the roof was replaced some years ago. The roofers just throw nails down all over the place while removing the old roof. So this test wasn't to say some detectors are bad or good, it was just showing why I like certain detectors for hunting in my conditions around here, and why I think some excel over others in these conditions with the coils that I have for them. Each have the coil I find best out of the coils I own to suit this test. If I put smaller coils on some of the detectors they are unable to detect the deeper left target at all for example the 6" coil won't see the left target on the Nox at all. If I had to rank these detectors out of which will give me the best target ID's in the soils around here I would rank them as follows: #1 Vanquish so very close in performance to the CTX/Nox but just that tiny bit better as the Vanquish handles EMI the best. #2 Equinox / CTX 3030 are so close in performance I'd say they're about the same, although I have very limited CTX knowledge so far being very new to it. #3 Ace 300i (In this video it suffers the most from EMI but get it 100 meters away from my house and it shines with good depth and ID's ONLY with the Tornado coil giving it the #3 ranking) #4 Gold Bug Pro / Detech Ultimate combo, change back to any other coil I own and it's performance drops a bit. The AT Gold, and Teknetics T2 come in at the bottom, I'm not yet sure if the AT Gold is due to the smaller coil size or not, I only have that one coil for it, the T2 is a depth monster but it's ID's are poor by comparison I think, and the smaller coils on the Vanquish and Equinox easily give more accurate ID's on the shallower of the two targets than the AT Pro and even in the best conditions its ID's are nowhere near as accurate as some others when targets get deeper. Now please don't read into this in any way that I'm bagging out certain detectors or something, that's not my intention and while the T2 might be at the bottom perhaps in other conditions it might be on the top, I do not know. The AT Gold I only have the standard coil for so it's instantly at a disadvantage. What I'm doing is showing why I prefer the detectors that I do for the conditions I hunt in for my coin hunting where I rely on Target ID's for dig decisions. This video really shows why I like the Vanquish so much around here for coin hunts. I'm looking forward to learning more about the CTX it seems very promising and is doing well on silver coins in my local spots so far. Sorry for the Ace section, at 1:05 I switch to the deeper target, I was too close to the screen with the video so it is hard to tell when I switch targets, especially with the Ace giving similar ID performance on both targets. What stands out to me is I could tell a local person hunting in my area if they just wanted to find a bunch of coins and some rings or something without spending much money they could easily just buy a Vanquish or an Ace and do quite well, and not really be left miles behind over someone with something like a CTX, keeping in mind once you're away from my yard junk levels go down to next to nothing, iron junk is very rare in our parks and sports areas around here, with the main junk being bottle tops and pull tabs, and low value coins 🙂 Obviously this changes for people with very high trash or different soils or whatever variable makes it invalid.
  19. How is it working out for you? U hunt relics or coins? Your thoughts appreciated!
  20. Seems Garrett is going to market one of the what was White’s gold VLF detector models soon. Don’t know which one though.
  21. It looks like C-Scope has something new on the Horizon. What I found interesting was that twice in the linked video they make a point of showing the coil in saltwater, the second shot shows it being moved quite vigorously apparently to emphasize resistance to fals-ing. Could this be a Multi-Freq or PI?
  22. This woman goes detecting in high heels 🙂 The article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/style/metal-detectorists-ring-finders.html Below is a segment of the article so you can decide if you want to click on the link to read the rest People have been metal detecting since 1881, when Alexander Graham Bell invented a device to find the bullet lodged in President James Garfield. But it took several more decades for recreational metal detectors — devices that resemble “sort of a skillet on the end of a pole,” as one newspaper put it in 1927 — to develop a serious cult following. Now, that cult following is growing. Detector makers are reporting record sales. According to an annual report from one brand, Minelab, in 2020 the company sold 30 percent more detectors than the previous year, which had climbed 18 percent the year before that. And we are in a bit of a detectorist media moment. New York magazine is making listicles of the best metal detector models. Drew Barrymore is giving them away on her show. The teenage sketch comedian Parker James is wielding one before his six million TikTok followers. In England, Carey Mulligan is making it mainstream; on Nantucket, millennials are making it fashion; and in the gaming industry, a romantic thriller-meets-metal detecting video game will be released this summer.
  23. Hello everyone, I would like your opinion and comments about “Golden Mask” metal detectors. They are made in Bulgaria, but I do not know something about their performance. How they are performed compared with some other brands, e.g., minelab, nokta, teknetics etc. Do you have any information or have you purchased that metal detector? Are they good or not? Would you buy that brand or not? Thanks.
  24. I put the batteries back in the old Mark 1 LTD, just to make a short demo video on this beautiful old machine. Hope ya like it! https://forums.tarsaccisales.com/forum/7/george-paynes-masterpiece-mark-1-ltd
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