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And Then There Were Two - D2s


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3 hours ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

What, no camo, F350? ? But serious, sweet looking rigs. Now you got my gears a-grindin'. ?

Camo would have been a longer wait, we did of course discuss it. ? opted for the stock finish and the holes for passing the waveguide. Even if I don't use the passthrough, the holes are large enough to fill the shaft with water and allow it to escape quickly. Good for submersion.

In my opinion the counterweight addition wasn't necessary, with the 13" and centering device you can set the cuff to make it sort of "float", it's hard to describe but you know it when you get it set right, it feels like you don't need to grip the handle too hard.

One thing I will mention here is that the rear cuff shaft is much longer than the XP version, if you have long arms like me it helps.

I took the WS6 Master setup out in the yard for a test drive, it's comfortable and different from the large remote but when you learn the buttons it's fine. Almost all the power of the RC is there, I noticed I had "Ground Stabilizer" in the main menu with disc and reactivity instead of it being buried somewhere else in the RC. ?

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8 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Camo would have been a longer wait, we did of course discuss it. ? opted for the stock finish and the holes for passing the waveguide. Even if I don't use the passthrough, the holes are large enough to fill the shaft with water and allow it to escape quickly. Good for submersion.

In my opinion the counterweight addition wasn't necessary, with the 13" and centering device you can set the cuff to make it sort of "float", it's hard to describe but you know it when you get it set right, it feels like you don't need to grip the handle too hard.

One thing I will mention here is that the rear cuff shaft is much longer than the XP version, if you have long arms like me it helps.

I took the WS6 Master setup out in the yard for a test drive, it's comfortable and different from the large remote but when you learn the buttons it's fine. Almost all the power of the RC is there, I noticed I had "Ground Stabilizer" in the main menu with disc and reactivity instead of it being buried somewhere else in the RC. ?

I started thinking about that double rig setup recently because my detecting buddy just got his WS6 Master D2 and I thought it would be fun to have a WS6 Master to just grab and go when we detect together and the Steve's Detector Rod setup with the 13" coil when I want to sanitize a big sports field of all its metal. ? Then I saw your post and I'm thinking that's the way to go. Thanks again for all your insights! ?

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35 minutes ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

I started thinking about that double rig setup recently because my detecting buddy just got his WS6 Master D2 and I thought it would be fun to have a WS6 Master to just grab and go when we detect together and the Steve's Detector Rod setup with the 13" coil when I want to sanitize a big sports field of all its metal. ? Then I saw your post and I'm thinking that's the way to go. Thanks again for all your insights! ?

I'm out in the fields right now with the 13" on SteveG's CF shaft. I'd say it's a "touch" heavier than the original rig, but I've been swinging it for a few hours and it's same same. It'll be a lot easier to clean! ? I really think you will like that coil, and the WS6 rig will be field tested soon. ? The 13" does have some of the characteristics of the venerable Nox 10x5, stay tuned. ?

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Guys and gals --


One thing to keep in mind.  I weighed my shaft, and it came in at 16.61 oz.  I think that's VERY close to the regular stock XP shaft, if not mistaken.

BUT -- and this is a BIG BUT -- the weight is redistributed.  In other words, it won't FEEL heavier to swing and SHOULD feel LIGHTER, if you are comparing apples to apples, coil-wise.

REASON BEING -- the D2 arm cuff weighs about 2 oz.  Mine weighs about 5 oz.  SO, what I did was essentially kept the overall shaft weight the same, but moved 3 oz. (nearly 1/4 of the shaft's total weight) to the very butt end of the shaft.  So, this means you have a much better-balanced (less nose-heavy) and thus more comfortable shaft.  Keep in mind, it's not ALL about absolute weight.  BALANCE matters...

Steve

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2 minutes ago, steveg said:

Guys and gals --


One thing to keep in mind.  I weighed my shaft, and it came in at 16.61 oz.  I think that's VERY close to the regular stock XP shaft, if not mistaken.

BUT -- and this is a BIG BUT -- the weight is redistributed.  In other words, it won't FEEL heavier to swing and SHOULD feel LIGHTER, if you are comparing apples to apples, coil-wise.

REASON BEING -- the D2 arm cuff weighs about 2 oz.  Mine weighs about 5 oz.  SO, what I did was essentially kept the overall shaft weight the same, but moved 3 oz. (nearly 1/4 of the shaft's total weight) to the very butt end of the shaft.  So, this means you have a much better-balanced (less nose-heavy) and thus more comfortable shaft.  Keep in mind, it's not ALL about absolute weight.  BALANCE matters...

Steve

I guess that's why I say you can get the 13" coil to "float" at a longer length than with the XP shaft. It's more of a feeling than anything, but thanks for the info!

Balance definitely matters. ? With that coil you have to "choke up" the XP shaft lower to compensate for the nose heavy feel. Without a centering device it's even worse.

I am probably even more impressed with this one Steve. I see the potential for being able to get a "convertible" model, one that can either be used as a straight shaft or an S. ?

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F350 --

Yep, that's exactly right.  When you say "get it to float" at a longer length, that's exactly what you are noticing, maybe without knowing it.  You are sensing the improved balance.  Exactly right.

Thank you for all of the terrific things you've had to say about the shaft.  I LOVE happy customers, as I makes me feel I've done my job well.

Thanks!

Steve

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