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I am not asking Nokta Makro to reveal their proprietary software secrets. Nokta Makro’s current simultaneous multi frequency competitors provide a weighted range of frequencies utilized in their respective detection modes/programs. That is what I am asking…a range not the specific frequencies. I assure you my concern is a real time known. I have extended to Nokta Makro several opportunities to address this issue directly. It was Nokta Makro’s decision to release a new product. Now is the time for them to answer some basic questions regarding that product with a reply other than “be patient guys”.

What is the differences between the “range of simultaneous multi frequencies” utilized in both the Equinox 800 detecting modes and the Nokta Makro Legend modes? Here is my attempt to explain my concern: Per the ML Equinox 800 user manual the Equinox provides four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach, Gold; plus eight (8) profiles divided in two (2) pairs per mode: such as Park 1, Park 2, Field 1, Field 2, etc; and one (1) custom user profile side button. Park 1, Field 1, Beach 1 & Beach 2 are “weighted” on the “lower simultaneous multi frequency range”. Park 2, Field 2, Gold 1 & Gold 2 are “weighted” on “ higher simultaneous multi frequency range. The NM Legend has four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach (dry & wet) & Goldfield; zero (0) profiles such as Park 1, Park 2, etc; and four (4) user custom modes. All the detecting modes, per NM all modes are optimized for depth. Currently NM has not addressed nor is there a specification “weighing” the range of simultaneous multi frequencies (low, mid, high) utilized in any of the NM Legend’s detecting modes. The YouTube video “Pasture 1” find of a thin coin indicates the “Field mode” may be utilizing a higher SMF range. When the Legend’s user manual is available online perhaps Nokta Makro will explain how simultaneous multi frequencies are utilized or weighed specific to each of the NM Legend four (4) detecting modes. Do the math 4x2 =8; 4x1=4; 4-8= -4. Certainly an answer I will be looking for prior to placing a pre-order or purchase.

What is the differences between the “range of simultaneous multi frequencies” utilized in both the Equinox 800 detecting modes and the Nokta Makro Legend modes? Here is my attempt to explain my concern: Per the ML Equinox 800 user manual the Equinox provides four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach, Gold; plus eight (8) profiles divided in two (2) pairs per mode: such as Park 1, Park 2, Field 1, Field 2, etc; and one (1) custom user profile side button. Park 1, Field 1, Beach 1 & Beach 2 are “weighted” on the “lower simultaneous multi frequency range”. Park 2, Field 2, Gold 1 & Gold 2 are “weighted” on “ higher simultaneous multi frequency range. The NM Legend has four (4) detecting modes: Park, Field, Beach (dry & wet) & Goldfield; zero (0) profiles such as Park 1, Park 2, etc; and four (4) user custom modes. All the detecting modes, per NM all modes are optimized for depth. Currently NM has not addressed nor is there a specification “weighing” the range of simultaneous multi frequencies (low, mid, high) utilized in any of the NM Legend’s detecting modes. The YouTube video “Pasture 1” find of a thin coin indicates the “Field mode” may be utilizing a higher SMF range. When the Legend’s user manual is available online perhaps Nokta Makro will explain how simultaneous multi frequencies are utilized or weighed specific to each of the four (4) detecting modes. Certainly an answer I will be looking for prior to placing a pre-order or purchase.

According to the NM website optional back up battery is: waterproof, LiPO (Lithium Phosphate), 3.2 vdc, 5500 mAh with charger & cable. The charger cable looks to have a standard USB. If so you could recharge the battery at home or in a vehicle USB port.

Cal When you get in the field could you take a look or guess at the multi frequency range ( low, mid, upper ) for each of detection modes: park, field, beach dry, beach wet & goldfield. Thanks

With Steve’s prototype “S” shaft the Equinox control unit mounts between the bottom of the “S” curve and the arm cuff with a upward offset of approximately 41/2 to 5 inches. That should transfer to coil pressure to the bottom of your arm at the cuff. In my opinion the advantage is the control unit drops down for better ground & coil viewing plus is probably less top heavy. The ML Xterra “S” shaft offset downward approximately 2 3/4 inches which does transfer load pressure to the bottom of your arm at the cuff. You will have to ask Gwcracker for clarification. However some White detectors have the control box mounted to the bottom of the shaft. The TDI SL the control box is mounted below the shaft between the lower end of the “S” shaft and arm cuff.

Keep a video eye out for Garrett. I am sure they received a lot of great feedback & requests on the Apex. Such as an updated all terrain expanded multi frequency version.

Quote from Nokta Makro Facebook on December 24th regarding the Legend manual: “Just a small update. The user manual has been sent for proofreading....we know we promised to put it up and we will do that next week. Thank you all for your patience!”

Gerry, Would you settle for some well groomed turkey jerky? You throw in a northern Nevada XP Deus II french lesson and I may be willing to sweetened the deal with a couple bucks provided there's a veteran's discount.

Does anyone have any concerns regarding the NM Legend control unit display material covering the 9 or 10 control buttons.? I have a GPS unit with what seems to be similar material over the side & top control buttons. After a few years, well past the warranty period, the flexible rubberized button material hardened, cracked then eventually fell off exposing the actual recessed switches. The GPS unit still operated with the help of a wooden match stick for pushing the recessed switches. What’s your take on the NM Legend waterproofed buttons?

Chuck, Sit back and enjoy the moment, winter is just starting up. Calabash has a Legend on pre-order. It a sure thing he will run it up against the equinox 800 on some hot Colorado dirt. The Legend videos are just now coming out, enjoy. Keep in mind, rumor has it that Minelab has five secret products releasing prior to the end of the fiscal year ending on June 30th 2022. When those rumored releases are announced we can enjoy another four months of waiting and watching videos as the pre-orders roll in. By then the XP Deus II “goldfield program” will actually be detecting of the goldfields and Nokta Makro will kick out a 9x5 coil for the Legend to stay in the game. Like the new member from Nokta Makro said “be patient guys! “ Who am I kidding, all this hold off typing ain’t working for me either, perhaps someone on the forum should start up a detector AA support group that offers discount codes and frequent buyers miles.

I am rethinking my "All Metal botton"detecting method to get in line with the Multi Frequency machines. Looks like both the Deus/Deus II & Equinox 800 take different paths but both get you there. Let's see what Calabash comes up with after he receives that Colorado hot dirt. Thanks for the info

Gerry, Would you consider taking these Christmas tree dwellers "in trade" for one of them French multi-frequency detectors? Willing to toss in a couple un-stockinged lumps of coal. Have a Happy New Year.

You answered spot on. Thanks just what I wanted to learn.

Example of a recirculating highbanker setup with two (2) 12vdc pumps.

Here’s a cheaper bucket version full of decomposed granitic clay. If only there was a multi frequency detector nearby to test. No matter how fast I shake that bucket under the coil can’t get deeper than 8 inches with the old single frequency. Maybe next Christmas I’ll ship the bucket to Southern Alabama, provided the duct tape holds up.

still waiting… Does the XP Deus/Deus II display a target I.D. either in Goldfield or Relic programs when the threshold breaks when over a target?

Thanks for the information: Is the XP Goldfield threshold “break” similar to the ML reference threshold “null”? Does the XP Deus/Deus II display a target I.D. either in Goldfield or Relic programs when the threshold breaks when over a target?

For you bench gravel recirculating highbankers using a 12vdc 65 pound AGM deep cycle battery for a couple of 12vdc recirculating pumps. The price for Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries and portable solar panels are dropping. Pair a 20 pound 50 amp hour LiFePo battery with a folding 100 watt solar panel equipped with a built in charge controller and run your 12 vdc pumps and solar charge your LiFePo battery at the same time at half the weight. Take a look at Renogy Solar, Battle Born, etc.. You need AC & DC take look at Jackery, Bluetti, etc., Need a light weight highbanker with matts take a look at Gold Hog.

Okay, I am starting to get a handle on XP iron volume and ML tone volume in disc program/mode. Here is a question regarding the Deus/Deus II running in the “Goldfield” (or Relic) program. Does the XP Deus/Deus II in the goldfield and/or the relic program use the threshold similar to the technique that of the ML Equinox 800?

The day after Christmas with the 8:00 pm hour is approaching in Istanbul. It appears the legend field testers were given very limited NDA releases; the legend manual has let to be published online.

Per the Deus II manual (pages 14, 15, 17, 20 & 29) a combination of settings may get you closer when using one of the discrimination programs: set the discrimination level ( such as -6.4 to 0); set pitch level (on allows threshold); set the threshold level (with pitch on); optional: adjust Iron volume and Profile X-Y screen. If the Deus II threshold “nulls” when the coil passes over a rejected target below the set discrimination level and/or the rejected target Target I.D.(T.I.D.) number is displayed you can check the display T.I.D. Reading. Selecting & setting the “iron volume level” may alert you to a rejected target for further investigation. The Profile X-Y screen should help determine further to dig or not. Perhaps a member with a XP Deus or Deus II could verify.

Neither the Xp ORX, Deus nor Deus II have a Remote Control “All Metal Button”. The Deus II manual recommends while in a Discrimination program using : • The visual target display for visual discrimination. • Multi-tone mode for audio discrimination and/or bottle cap rejection Both the gold & relic programs are in All Metal.