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  1. The following is more of a modest technical report than the story of my latest session on the seafloor. Days ago I posted my (negative) impressions of the impact of beach programs on thin or open targets, comparing stainless steel necklaces and bracelets to gold on the ID scale. Briefly summarized, I found no way to achieve an efficient and stable setting that could be reused underwater in a salty environment. Based on P12 and after several modifications, I arrived at the only final setting that allowed me to conduct effective research. Assuming a pair of frequencies (never stated), we still know a limit of 14/24/40 kHz in the menu. However, I got the impression that in the P12 the sensitivity was higher having slightly more interference though on 24Khz and reduced sensitivity down to 88. This makes me think of a second frequency (less than 24 kHz, coupled as 14/24 rather than 4/14 in diving mode. Again, I assume that in P11 the behavior is less responsive to thin targets in spite changing on 40 kHz. And to finish, I add that no particular filter changed the audio noise for the better outside of a high value of reactivity on 2.5 . Here is a quick summary of the program. Reactivity 2.5 Sensitivity 90 Salt sens 8 Pitch tone Treshold 0 B.caps 0 Notch 0 Silencer 5 Iron vol 5 Disc 5.0 Audio filter 5 GB tracking Magnetic reject and underhere a common fish finally audible among way too noise reduced.
  2. XP have "fixed" Deus 2's FMF simultaneous multi frequency Goldfield mode in software version 2.0 so that it is much more sensitive to sub gram targets than it was using previous software versions. The testing that I have done so far confirms this. Deus 2's simultaneous multi frequency Goldfield mode using the 9" coil is now just as sensitive as Deus 2's Mono mode set a 40 kHz and Deus 1 and the ORX set on their Gold modes using the 9" HF coil on small sub gram targets. Deus 1 and the ORX using the HF elliptical coil might be slightly more sensitive to really small sub 0.1 gram targets but not by much. Deus 2's FMF Goldfield should handle difficult ground conditions even better than Deus 2 Mono, Deus 1 and the ORX. If XP can come up with a smaller than 9" round land based only coil for Deus 2, fantastic.
  3. I'm a big fan of Target ID's, I tend to hunt coins and jewellery in places that minimal digging is required yet targets are deep, so now that XP appear to have resolved their small gold problems with the Deus 2 firmware update 2.0 I'm quite interested in getting one. Rumours have been rumbling that the Deus 2 has pretty accurate Target ID's, so the idea of the poll is to gather information about how people are finding the Deus 2 target ID accuracy overall compared to other detectors. I just want a general idea but any feedback below the poll is appreciated. I find my Deus 1 shockingly poor for target ID's and my Equinox 800, CTX and Vanquish very good, so I'd appreciate any feedback before I jump in on a Deus 2, as I would primarily want it for a park coin hunter, I like it's improved gold capability but I'd be unlikely to use it much for that, but it's good to know it's capable should the need pop up, if I buy a general purpose detector I want it to be general purpose and be able to use it doing anything without feeling like I'm missing much, a Swiss army knife and for the price the Deus 2 should be that. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
  4. I bought a ip 68 connector and cord for my pro golds. Not a big fan of wireless but do have a set of Quest phones for the WS6.. I stand corrected on the 11” coil. I also moded my antenna wire thru the shaft. I coiled it similar to the CTX so I can open and close for transport. I also have a CF straight shaft on the way. We shall see how that works out.
  5. (TL:DR) Dive program, discrim 0, sensitivity 88, salt sensitivity 8. Detector wont pick up small items. I've found multiple rings on the surface and it seems to struggle with chains and earrings. My Equinox picked up the same targets it is missing. Any ideas? Hi all, I've been using the Deus 2 for about 2 months and I've found plenty of gold jewellery in the sea, lots of coins and whatnot. The only problem is on the last few dives, I've actually picked up at least half of the gold rings from the surface or found them on accident. A small 18k band was found yesterday by chance as it was in the same hole as a 303 casing. A platinum/18ct "art Deco" 10 diamond ring was also found on the surface and the Deus barely made a sound when swung over it (it was a very wiry ring, pic below). I've also just simply spotted a few plain gold bands in the rocks. The issue is I feel like I'm missing a lot of targets, I would've 100% missed that platinum ring if I didn't see it on top. When I tested it on the equinox on Beach-2 it picked it up perfect at a solid 1. I've only found 1 chain and it was a very thick brass plate chain and it was a super faint scratchy signal @ 2-3" down. I spotted a 9ct oval shape earring in the rocks too which when swung over, didn't make a sound. I'm running Dive program, discrim 0, sensitivity 88, salt sensitivity 8. Could I be using the wrong modes or settings or something? As of now, the smallest thing I've really found are 5 cent coins or that single chain.
  6. I want to search for gold in the mountains, in the rocks, in the rivers, in the forest, and on the ground. But I want to search for more share of gold. Which detector is better, which of these 2 detectors would you recommend? Or which detector would you recommend?
  7. I went detecting at a park today the first time since updating to ver 1.0. Very little iron. I used sensitive FT as my base and raised sensitivity to 95, high square tone, audio response down to 3 , no notch. And loved how it did. Very stable. I found these my first silver with ver 1.0 along with coins, pull tabs and usual trash. Even found a 12ga head stamp UMC new club which was made from 1892-1900. So over all a great 3 hour hunt
  8. This is a semi in the ground test on a 0.1 gram gold nugget for anyone that would like to use one of the "do it all" simultaneous multi frequency VLFs for gold prospecting. For the "fairness" police, please don't complain about coil sizes. The smallest coil available for Deus 2 is the 9" coil. So blame XP not me. XP include a simultaneous multi frequency "Gold Prospecting" mode on Deus 2. I would like to use it. This video shows why currently I will not use it. Video starts with checking the test area ground for targets, ground balancing, showing the target and how it is placed in the ground and then the test begins. Deus 2 uses customized FMF Goldfield and customized single frequency Mono program both with sensitivity on 95. I wanted to use the Hi Square audio, Pitch tones and the absolute zero discrimination for both programs along with a slight threshold. That is why I did not use stock default programs. All settings are as identical as I can make them except for the new Audio Filter feature which is on setting 1 for FMF Goldfield custom program 16 and it is on 0 for 40 kHz Mono custom program 15 which was an oversight failure on my part. I did retry it after making the video with FMF Goldfield custom program having Audio filter on 0. It made zero difference. Legend starts at 3:25 of the video. It uses its 6" coil with sensitivity on 23 in Gold Multi and Gold 40 kHz. Equinox 900 starts at 6:00 of the video. It uses its 6" coil with sensitivity on 23 in Gold 1 Multi and Gold 1 40 kHz. All settings are clearly shown in the video for each program being used on each detector. The ruler sticking up out of the ground behind the target is 5 cm high and the target itself is 2" deep or roughly another 5 cm deep. Legend and Equinox in the Gold Multi modes can hit this target 5 cm above the ground. They can hit it at 4 cm above the ground using single frequency 40 kHz. Deus 2 using its 40 kHz Mono program also hit this target at 4 cm above the ground. We could debate about whether Deus 2 in FMF Goldfield is actually hitting the target even with the coil bumping into the target holder. Deus 2's mineralization meter is between half and 3/4th full so moderate to high mineralization which all three detectors struggle with when ground balancing in selectable single frequency 40 kHz. This video is being sent to XP. I sent XP an email and they replied within 24 hours which I really appreciate. Thank You XP!!!!! This is the email exchange between me and XP: HI Jeff Thanks for this feedback. Yes you have right the 40khz of the DEUS II would perform very well if available also in the gold Field Program, as the mono frequencies from the DEUS II are more powerfull than DEUS 1. We will think to make this availabe in the next version. Regards XP TEAM Message : XP, thank you very much for the Deus ll software update version 1.0 and for making it Mac compatible. I am a gold prospector. I use VLF and Pulse Induction detectors. I use a VLF detector for detecting the smallest bits of gold in the 0.5 gram and much smaller size range. I have used Deus 1 and ORX for this. They work very well in their Gold modes. I would like to use Deus 2 for gold prospecting. However, even after updating to version 1.0, Deus 2 FMF Goldfield sensitivity to very small gold nuggets 0.5 gram and smaller down to 0.01 grams is extremely poor. Deus 2 Mono or Fast 40 outperform Deus 2 FMF Goldfield on these types of targets by up to 5cm. One of my test nuggets is 0.08 grams. It can only be detected using FMF Goldfield at 3cm. Fast 40 and Deus 2 Mono will easily detect this same small nugget at 8cm. Being able to use FMF technology in highly mineralized gold prospecting areas would be really beneficial. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, FMF Goldfield's insensitivity on small to very small bits of easily detectable gold using Deus 2 Mono is still very disappointing.
  9. Well, after updating the software and finding time for a session on the seabed to try out the new scuba program I created, although I have nothing to say about the stability in general, I have encountered a random flaw that occasionally interrupts the audio. Specifically, it happens just after an interference cancellation, or sporadically after changing something between reactivity or sensitivity. In short, you can't change the parameters much otherwise they are indigestible😂. However by rebooting I solved it. Aluminum by the ton and a beach among the most desperate, but at least the conditions were perfect for diving 🙏
  10. More than a few times, someone explained that it is not possible to balance the terrain manually in multifrequency, as it is certainly easier to do with mono. Unfortunately, I have to say that I was waiting for this feature in the new update, considering that on the Orx at the beach on wet sand, a dutiful 25/27 is ideal for quieting saline terrain. Strangely on the Deus2 I get a much more "loaded" balance, ranging between 79 and 87, when in contrast I get false signal on hot rocks and clay around 25/28... Can someone explain how to deal with this thing lowering at the best the G.B. ? I figured out to move the coil higher on the seafloor to capture a different grab, but it works relatively and never obtained a lower number than 70. What are we talking about if the proper setting is usually 25/28 for the wet/salt/sand?
  11. I just posted in the nokta forum what I’d be willing to pay for a new detector. My absolute limit is $2000. What’s yours?
  12. After snatching a couple of hours at the day off for a session, I'm back to pissed off today. The Bh-01 headset to which an earpiece had exploded was barely able to transfer sound even at volume 9. Eventually with a gentle current but a constant wave motion, I was forced to look at the screen to figure out what was going on under the coil. That said I am about to set about building a piezo headphone and end of story🙄. I kindly ask anyone who has already discussed this topic, to direct me to the post link for the male connector and positive/negative pole diagram. I saved screenshots a while back, but can't find the folder on my pc. Thank you all in advance🙏
  13. Tough times for me lately to edit a whole video 🥲. Shorts seem to be the only way to hold and share the memory of a session. Here, the baptism of Deus2 🔥 Happy hunting to all of You! https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrXhZHQqDpU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
  14. If you had to choose between these two units, the Deus II and Equinox 900, for coin/jewelry hunting in local parks with a medium mineralization, which would it be? I know there are various conditions to consider, but in general, I'm just talking about your typical U.S. park coin and jewelry hunting, while also looking for missed deep targets. Yes, there are several other units that could be considered, but only interested in opinions on these two. Thanks for your input...
  15. Just a quick post about some weights for recently released detectors for those that want or need to pay attention to swing weight. I weighed all of these on the same scale. Your scale may give different results but the difference between different detectors should be close. All weights include coil covers. Deus 2 with 9" FMF coil, WS6 mounted on the shaft with the XP Neoprene shaft mount = 33.2 ounces Deus 2 with 9" FMF coil and full remote mounted on the shaft = 35 ounces Nox 900 with stock 6" coil and stock lower shaft = 37 ounces Nox 800 with stock 6" coil and Detector Innovations Tele-Knox shaft system 37.7 ounces Nox 900 with Coiltek 10X5" coil on the Detector Innovations 18mm Tele-Knox lower shaft which fits the Nox 900 shaft = 41.6 ounces Nox 900 with stock 11" coil and stock lower shaft = 44.1 ounces Legend with stock 6" coil = 45.5 ounces Legend with 10X5" LG24 coil is 46.1 ounces Nox 800 with stock 11" coil and Steve Goss one piece carbon fiber upper shaft (no counter weight) = 46.5 ounces Legend with stock 11" coil = 52.6 ounces
  16. I casually found this video and the results are actually confusing me...A lot🤐. Nothing to say for most of the programs but look what a difference on gold signals when in diving/beach and beach sens 😬. Not to mention the higher vdi reading (twice) when in mono 17Khz... Please, can someone explain what I'm seeing?
  17. Hi everyone, my first post here! After reading hundreds of posts and watching YouTube videos online for the last 6 months I've decided to choose one of the following detectors: Legend, Deus 2 or the Manticore. I have very little experience in metaldetecting. The only experience I have is 4 months searching on the saltwater beach with a Makro Racer 2 in 2017. Unfortunately I had to stop and now 6 years later ready to start again. My biggest problem is that I can't visit a metal detecting dealer to see and feel the different models. The only place I'm going to metal detect is the saltwater beach looking for coins and jewelry. I don't plan to go in the water (waist, diving). I live about 8 minutes from the beach (by bike) so portability is important to me (backpack and go). These are the configurations I like with their corresponding prices: - Nokta Legend (WHP): 600 euro (nokta offer valid until march 31, 2023 or while supplies last) - XP Deus 2 (WSA2 + RC): 1450 euro - Minelab Manticore: 2000 euro As you can see the Deus 2 is 2.5x times more expensive than the Legend and the Manticore almost 3.5x times. Unfortunately no discounts are possible. If there are no differences between the three models for my situation (searching on the saltwater beach) then I'll look at the other criteria (weight, warranty etc.). If one of the detectors is better but cost 2x to 3x more then that's no problem. So price is not really a problem. Some specs I found online (mainly focused on weight and dimensions): Nokta Legend Weight: 1.4 kg / 3.0 lbs Collapsed Length: 63 cm / 25 inch (with coil?) Warranty: 3 year Headphones: Bluetooth aptX Low Latency XP Deus 2 Weight: - S-Telescopic + Remote + 9" coil = 865 g / 1.9 lbs - S-Telescopic + Remote + 11" coil = 990 g / 2.2 lbs - S-Telescopic lite + Remote + 9" coil = 800 g / 1.8 lbs - S-Telescopic lite + Remote + 11" coil = 925 g / 2.0 lbs Collapsed Length: 58 cm / 22.8 inch and 65 cm / 25.6 inch (equipped with a 9" coil) Warranty: 5 year Headphones: WSA2, WSA2 XL Minelab Manticore Weight: 1.3 kg / 2.9 lb Collapsed Length: 63 cm / 25 inch (with coil?) Warranty: 3 year Headphones: Minelab ML-105 Some positives and negatives: Nokta Legend: + price (much cheaper than the Deus 2 and Manticore) + Bluetooth aptX Low Latency headphones compatibility - weight (heaviest of the three) XP Deus 2: + weight (much lighter than the other three models) + 5 year warranty + choice for a small headphone (WSA2) + backpack 240 perfect fit for deus 2 (portability) - menu learning curve? Manticore: + color screen + navigating menu - only one headphone option Of course there are more pros and cons between these detectors and these can only be answered by people who own these detectors. I really want a high end detector (no vanquish, simplex etc..). Tips and suggestions are welcome!
  18. Had a three hour group hunt today with men and women from our Denver area metal detecting club at a local park. Screwdriver or probe hunting only by order of the city of Denver. I was using Deus 2, 9" coil Sensitive 5 tones, 95 sensitivity, discrimination 10, reactivity 2, silencer 0 audio response 4. Iron mineralization meter was 8 of 10 bars consistently. I was specifically looking for gold jewelry (skunked) silver jewelry (also skunked) silver coins, older coins and modern USA coins. I collected and threw away a lot of trash that I just picked up off the surface of the ground along with detecting and throwing away quite a bit of gold range can slaw. The 1919D Mercury dime was a full Teknetics Tek-Point deep so at least 9". So was the 1947 nickel and the wheat pennies. These targets were whispers but there were enough correct target IDs to dig. I think I could have found more silver coins but I got tired.
  19. I rarely find anything worth posting here, but I think you might enjoy this. I have a standing permission at an old farm yard here in eastern Massachusetts. I've been over this particular spot six or eight times, and found a Barber dime just before the end of last season. So that's where I started last night. Deus II, Sens FT, square tones. Settings probably wouldn't have mattered as this signal was pretty clear – low eighties, fairly clear tone with a slight scratch on the outswing, and a bit of an unctuous warble. So a bottle cap, or more likely a big screw top from a liquor bottle. I dug it anyway because I wanted to clear the trash out and hopefully find more coins. It was very dark already, so when I flipped the sod, I could barely tell that I had a pocket watch or compass, so on I went. once I cleaned it off a bit at home, I explained to my son that this wasn't plated because there were no flakes coming off, but that silver sometimes comes out gold toned. At that point the back falls off. I got so excited about the inscription that I didn't read the case marks. So it took quite a while for me to realize that this was, in fact, a 14k gold watch!
  20. With a GPX leading the way marking bullets so that we could test...which VLF would you say did the best? T2 with stock coil. Deus2 with 9 inch coil and 11x13. MCore with 11 inch coil. All Metal modes on all 3 machines. Deepest bullet was 14 inches. Most were 8 to 10 inches. Take your best guesses and I'll do a write up later.
  21. Now I am not starting a fight hear but I own a Tarsacci, and was wondering has anyone compared the two detectors, i would like to know
  22. I have heard some positive comments regarding target separation with the Manticore, especially in thick iron. Deus has traditionally had a great rep in this regard as well. Would like folks who have used both machines to weigh in on this aspect of performance. Please provide relative context for any observations or assertions including modes, settings (especially recovery speed/reactivity and audio settings), soil conditions, target types/composition, and ferrous/non-fertous trash density. Thanks. Since M-core is limited to the 11" coil let's keep the discussion constrained to 11" or 9" coil comparisons. Leaving Nox and Legend out of the discussion for now to keep things simple and because they both have smaller elliptical coil options available that just complicates apples to apples comparisons. Have at it... I don't have a Manticore so I will mostly stay on the sidelines unless general logic or technical facts discrepancies are noted or I have questions.
  23. This started out as *not* a battle between the two. The site I like to test detectors recently sold and I was finally able to get in touch with the new owners and re-acquire permission for it. I have about another yr before it gets turned into a housing development. What it is, is a practice range from the Civil War. There are minie balls everywhere on it...the problem is, they are in 4-5 bar dirt and on most every VLF machine they will read as iron. We figured this out years ago and it has just always been my place to test new detectors in a 150+ yr old test garden. I started out here with the Manticore. All Terrain General with Normal audio profile, 5 tones. Sens was at 25. Long press noise canceled and ground balanced...off I went. Observation number 1...it behaves a lot like the Equinox in hot dirt in that it is real chatty and falses a lot. I hunted with it quite a while and found 2 really shallow bullets and a whole lot of non digging time between them. I just wasn't locating signals 😕 My plan was to try and get back on the bullet site...and if that had failed, I was going to go down the road to a farm I have permission for, and hunt some iron patches with the D2 and 9 inch coil. After hunting about an hour with the Manticore, it dawned on me that I hadn't had the D2 at this place either and I might as well give it a try since I was there. I went back to the truck and got the D2 out. I went to the factory Relic program and bumped the disc up to 4. Ground balanced it and started swinging. Right out of the chute I noted it was very quiet. I probably didn't go 20 feet and had a really good 70s signal. Banger signal. Out came a bullet. Filled that hole...4 feet from it another 70s. Another bullet. Both of those were relatively shallow...4 inches or so. Then a few yards away, another great signal but a little weaker audio. Still 4 way repeating. At this point I walked to the truck and got the Manticore. I wanted to see what it would do on this signal. To my surprise it was crap. On the graph, it drew a smear up in the upper ferrous range and would occasionally blip about every other pass across it. So we had one machine saying non ferrous all the way...and one that was mostly sure it was iron. I dug and a mid depth bullet was in the bottom of the hole. By mid depth I mean from the tip of my Garrett pinpointer to the on/off button. I'm not sure the exact measurement of that but 6 inches would be a fair guesstimate. And this is how it went for the majority of the rest of the bullets I found. I tried different modes on the Manticore...the only way to locate and find the bullets with it, would be to hunt a totally open screen and dig EVERY THING. So in that regard...the Manticore *IMO*, falls into the lump of the vast majority of other VLF machines for hot dirt. Remember I said that it was "well rounded"...well that still holds true. It can do a lot of things pretty well...but hot dirt is not one of its strong suits. What is surprising to me is how well the D2 ran in it. I started in Relic mode but quickly found out that General mode hit them just as easy with a bit more pleasing audio. I did NOT dig any deep ones...about pinpointer deep was the deepest but I had several in that range. All were great signals and this being with the 9 inch coil is even more impressive. Right now...if you told me I could keep only one machine. I would keep the D2....despite hating that stupid antenna for hunting in water. The Manticore is well rounded...but the D2 has a bit more strengths in the types of hunting I do.
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