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  1. In the past 7-8 weeks I've owned the Deus 2, I've been out with it a lot. That's about to end as California is in a drought. Summer is nearly here, and the ground is now already quite dry and becoming hard to dig in, so I won't be out much until the rains return. I've primarily used it to search for coins and jewelry in parks and fields, but also looked for gold nuggets here in California for 7-8 hours (and unfortunately didn't find any). I started with the January V0.6 version and switched to the V0.7 in late April. I updated to V0.71 as soon as it was out to correct the only issue I've ever had which was with the pinpoint mode in V0.7. Overall, I've been very happy with the machine and its performance. I've especially enjoyed the light weight and super ergonomics and have never felt tired from swinging this unit. Its been a pleasure to use since the beginning and I really enjoy the various audio options. The sounds of the pitch tones and full tones just sound so good to my ears! Coming from the Equinox 800, I didn't find the transition to another mulitfrequency machine difficult, it was just a matter of learning the new menu system on the XP. I mostly used the stock programs and over time learned to tweak settings a bit to work best in my conditions. I think somebody new to the Deus platform would be able to use stock programs to start and get great performance right away and then gradually learn what the various settings do to further optimize. One of the most unique and useful features of the Deus 2 for me has been is its mineralization level graph. I've known all along I hunt in very difficult soil conditions, but the Deus 2 confirmed this with hard data. Where I hunt, the mineralization graph is generally 3/4 to full bars, so high to severely mineralized. I've used this information to help me set my reactivity level in the different programs I've used. The higher the mineralization, the higher I set the reactivity level. The factory preset levels of 2.5 to 3 generally work ok in 3/4 bar soil, and I had to use reactivity 4 in one site with full bars while looking for coins. I generally get a max of 4-5 inches of solid ID numbers on a coin in my soil and less as the mineralization bar increases to near full. Signal clarity and strength start to really get lost past 2 inches. One helpful setting has been audio response. I have had good success raising this up to a "6" to hear faint deeper or smaller targets better and was glad to see signals didn't seem to become more distorted like I at first feared. This is something for those of you in difficult soil to consider trying, despite the drawback of losing potential audio information about how deep and weak a coin signal might be. This setting for me has been a "mini game-changer" as it allows me to hear things I'd otherwise miss. I've been happy with the 9 inch coil on the Deus 2. I think its a great all-around coil size. Nice depth, but still small enough to limit targets under the coil at one time. I hunt in thick trash often and the size works well for pinpointing targets without the need to engage pinpoint mode very often. This is one of the top pluses of the Deus 2 for me. I know where targets are located with a simple "X" sweep and this saves lots of time. This is a big deal when the goal is to retrieve more targets in the time spent hunting. The machine itself also separates and IDs items very well. I can often tell where 2 targets are when right next to each other by carefully swinging around and mentally taking note of each target location based on the sounds or ID#. The separation abilities of the Deus 2 are quite good and from what I see, XP deserves the reputation it has for making machines that excel in trash or iron-infested sites. Non-ferrous signals really stand out on this machine. This saves a lot of time locating things precisely and also helps find desirable targets from among the trash. Like all machines though, you still have to put in your time digging junk to get the good stuff! I probably won't use this machine for nugget hunting in the future since I have a Minelab GPX6000 which is much better suited for the job. It cuts through severely mineralized soil far better, but I do intend to keep using the Deus 2 as my primary coin and jewelry hunting machine. I hope to someday take it to the beach and do some diamond ring and other jewelry hunting, though I do live quite far from any beaches with a lot of activity. While I don't often search specifically for relics, I also hope to use the Deus 2 in the future at some old ghost towns or mining locations and am confident its a great machine for a place like that. If I were to only have 1 metal detector(a crazy idea, I know!) , I think the Deus 2 would be in the running for my only choice. It can do a lot very, very well such as hunt for jewelry and coins in parks, be used at the beach or when diving, and even if somebody wanted to take it nugget hunting. It can do all of those things quite well, even though other machines may be better in certain areas or situations. But, since I primarily detect natural gold nuggets, in this case I'd pick a Minelab GPX pulse-induction model. If I could also have a vlf companion, I'd get the Deus 2. I know newer and possibly better models to compete with the Deus 2 will be out in the next year or two, but I'd still be happy with the Deus 2 once they are out, since I think it will be very tough to beat the light weight and ergonomics of it, and it should stay very competitive in separating and ID abilities for quite a few years to come.
  2. Here is one of dozens of Deus 2/Nox comparisons done by this YouTube content creator. As he says it is a very interesting test. I am absolutely not trying to stir up trouble here. These videos are out there for anyone to see and you interpret them anyway you want. As an often daily modern aluminum trash/steel alloy coin and jewelry hunter AND a gold prospector using both the Equinox, Deus 1 and ORX (so no bias here) I see this test from a very different angle than the conclusions drawn by the video maker. I am a subscriber to this person's channel so I am not taking a shot at anyone here. This is just a good example of a well (I think) intentioned test that can be looked at more than one way. I see it like this: 1. I don't think I have ever used Field 2 on purpose for a coin and jewelry hunt in a modern aluminum/steel trashed park. I have used Park 2 but that is only after using Park 1 extensively at the same site beforehand. 2. This video shows very clearly why Field 2 would be (and is even on the Equinox 600) an excellent small gold prospecting mode. 3. It appears that Deus 2 Fast would not be such a good gold prospecting mode. 4. Deus 2 in Fast hits that dime really well and should do very well in modern aluminum/steel trashed areas if the trash is really small........ 5. Equinox in Field 2 multi (ignore what the video maker says and look carefully at all of the target IDs not just the ones he points out) is actually hitting ALL of the targets (at least 4 different ones including the dime). 6. Park 1 and Field 1 multi have a very different result in this test…….….by the way. Just my take on this very short video. You may see it very differently
  3. I’ve confirmed that any items I list which state they are for Deus 1 and WS4 are also compatible with Deus 2 and WS6. I’ve provided links if you want to take a closer look at any items, but encourage you to shop around for the best deal. Some shops have a minimum purchase price before free shipping kicks in. https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-mi-6-waterproof-pinpointer-metal-detector?___SID=U https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-deus-ws4-wireless-headphone-adapter https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-deus-2-remote-control-headphone-jack-adapter https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-deus-silicone-wristband-for-ws4 https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-deus-ws4-stem-mount-support?___SID=U https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-deus-2-bh-01-bone-conduction-waterproof-headphones?___SID=U https://www.metaldetector.com/xp-metal-detectors-finds-pouch?___SID=U https://bigboyshobbies.net/xp-backpack-240 https://www.ebay.com/itm/XP-Deus-2-ll-Metal-Detector-Screen-and-Touchpad-Protector-Cover-USA-Made-/125220261088?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Neoprene-arm-rest-cover-for-XP-DEUS-ORX-Metal-Detectors-with-Logo-XP-/264525180790?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
  4. This grassy area has given up many Barber dimes and now add another to the collection.😀1908s Barber Dime. 6 inches deep, ID 85-86, park program on the Deus2. Glad it wasn’t a pesky Rosie I’ve only dug up 2 of them at this area and only silver coin from the 40s was a Mercury Dime. Ground was soft a month ago now it’s hard diggin and temperature today was around 93 degrees I quit after 2 and a half hours. Gonna have to get out a little earlier. Bottom pic is where some of the silver coins may have come from. Denny
  5. Being new to XP and not owning a deus before, What sort of timescale was there until the release of the larger 13x11 coil for the original deus? From what Im hearing most people can now get there hands on a new deus 2 , so hopefully the people at XP can put some more time, into providing accessories. Thanks
  6. In my haste, made a bunch of mistakes filming, I almost scrapped the video but instead decided to add subtitles to my errors. Due to the vast amount of settings, more bottle cap reject tests are needed w this D2…. Aaron
  7. 3rd hole digging a can or what I thought was a can signal! Not much modern trash at this site but a few cans. After this glorious dig I chased many more big mushy signals most big iron or sheets of metal/tin used in building their quarters I'm guessing! I love it and I'm so darn happy I got this thing.
  8. Love my Xp Deus 2, but like a few other people, mine died after updating the firmware. After the firmware update, it showed “SUCCESSFUL” on screen, then shut down, and would not turn back on. Contacted the seller who gave me a direct email address to contact XP, which I did immediately. After a week of not hearing anything from XP I decided to repair it myself. Not happy that it came to this for such an expensive machine. If you attempt this, ONLY use a plastic pry tool or plastic guitar pick. Go slow and be careful as O-ring is coated in grease and can get on the inside of display screen! Make sure the O-ring remains in place and lubricated during reassembly, otherwise the remote could leak if submerged. Remove 4 screws on speaker cover and then remove speaker first, pay attention to speaker spring contact orientation for re-assembly. Remove two screws on bottom front, remove single screw under serial # sticker. Bottom piece slides out easy enough with minimal prying. Gently slide board out, no need to remove data port nut as there is just enough slack in the wires to access the battery plug. Unplug the two-wire jack from battery on the board (see green circle on attached picture). I waited 10 seconds then plugged back in and remote immediately booted up. Everything works fine, shuts down and turns on and operates normally. This method will also work if you have the reverse problem when the screen locks up and you do not want to wait for battery to run down.
  9. Hit the grassy area this morning in hopes of finding another seated dime didn’t happen but did find a 5.1 gram gold nugget a little smaller than a dime. No discoloration it came out of the ground looking like in the pic. ID at 66 on the D2 at 6 inches deep. Also dug up a wheatie and. V- Nickel. Denny
  10. Let me start this off... Cliff if i miss speak please correct me. I have to say i was impressed with the Deus on wet sand. It got a bit more depth on some of the gold rings we tested. These werent methodical tests.... drop a ring in a 14" hole and see what happens. Cliff is also in the learning process..... but it helps hes a VERY good hunter and no matter the machine he knows a weak target others might miss. Build wise.... he bought the new upper shaft which is longer and stablized the lower from flexing in the water. So the shaft seems pretty good even for water hunting. He put the antenna cable inside the shaft..... nice. He was using Tony Eisenhower phones.... which he had to turn down the volume on. I did NOT swing the machine thou he offered. I was more interested in seeing how it did.... ill save using it for another day.... when hes got it really dialed in lol. Is still like to see those coil ears moved more toward the center of the coil to reduce coil flip, ear wear, balance, and breakage from leaning on it. The way the shaft is made it appears more contact can be made by the locks. Clearly the Deus will get equal to of a bit better depth on the wet sand than the MDT.... thats saying something since the Nox fell a little short. Thou again hes still in the learning phase and we were basicly air testing by dropping targets in a hole. Some machines dont do well using this method. The Deus CAN noise cancel out the MDT and didnt appear to create silent EMI like the Nox did reducing depth. So we really never had to move the machines very far away when checking targets. Right off the bat i hit a couple of targets he didnt find..... turned out to be deep can slaw. He adjusted his disc setting and that fixed that. We hit one target fairly deep with a mixed signal which we both thought maybe bottle cap.... turned out to be a silver toe ring with a large piece of iron under it. Targets were really just not there either. I intentionally brought 3 targets, small chain, tiny cross, and hollow gold earring. These were found with the Nox using the 40khz gold program in a volleyball course. As expected the Deus nor the MDT hit those setting on top of that wet sand. My impression is the Deus is a very capable machine and quieter than the Nox in the water. Build is a better than i expected thou time will tell. Based on some of the comments thou they still need to make some updates. With any multi use machine thou you really need to test a lot ..... water, wet ... then dry sand and make those tweaks. If you dont.... the the term "you dont know what you dont know" applies. You just wont know if you have it dialed in.... and right now everyone is in a learning curve or should be. A skilled hunter as we say can find gold with a stick..... so considering ive done my testing, have time on my machine, and have it dialed the way i like it. The Deus impressed.... and id say can do even better. AND no ive still not got one on order....lol. I like the MDTs simplicity. Make no mistake ..... buying a great machine doesnt make you great.... ya have to put in the time. As i say.... never sell a new machine until you have payed for it in finds... by then you have a pretty good idea if it suits you. the warranty duration is considerably longer than the MDT. However…. The way it’s written to me is some concern. as a water hunter. No good having if for some reason it floods and they opt not to replace it. Hopefully they will be as responsive as ML. Seems pretty water tight thou so hopefully it will never be an issue.
  11. I’m not sure if there are others like me out there, but I imagine there MUST be. I am so used to my Fisher Gold Bug Pro that I wanted to give myself a challenge. I purchased a legend. My oh my, I need to be a computer genius to operate this thing. Now, I’m getting used to it and coming along, that’s one of the reasons why I’m parting with my Bug. I want to put all the learning into the legend. Now as for the Deus 2, I would love to maybe have one some day, but my rocket scientist license has expired. Wow, I think you need a college class to learn that girl. I don’t even understand a lot about it when I hear you guys talk about it. So my comparison, I believe I will be able, over a bit of time, to be comfortable with the Legend, but the Deus, I don’t think I can. But from what I read and see, both FINE machines. So just enjoy ‘em. Joe
  12. Finally had a free day "rained very little,so I called mental health day!" I pointed my work van east of i65 alybamy and began the intensity training needed to suck these delicious targets out of the gummy clay I knew was a strong adversary awaiting my unsheething of D2! 🙂 no laugh or smirk go away! I've had the pleasure of more than 100hrs on this site over 4 yrs and it has always treated me well! I'm absolutely indebted to the land owner "he like my hunting buddy have passed unfortunately" now his girlfriend who he left it to! Fortunately they,she have always been so good to me and as we all know this is a luxury to our kind/hobby! So the last few trips maybe combined 7 hrs with nox800 the decent signals had all but dried up or atleast I encountered very few in recent trips! Small area 50yds×30yds of egg shaped earth built up higher than surrounding area! D2 fast program pitch 0silencer,0bc,2reactivity,1stability,no ground balance as ground stayed 79 to 87 over 2 hrs one evening 7hrs more today is absolute fire! I tried sense ft,sense with 3 tone,5tone and they dont compare to pitch in iron imho not even close! Sense with pitch basically the same settings 1.5 reactivity though I ran a good bit as well and for me pitch is lightyears ahead in the extreme nail universe like the old sights we all seek these relics in! Heck just trying fulltones and the 5,4,3 just doesnt take long of swinging same little areas to see just how non comparable they are to pitch imo"we all have these thing,opinions!"?. To me it's not close and also hurts my heart as I want to use fulltones! Awesome hunt though can't stress how blessed and thankful i feel about it! I think that is kshot? Scabbard finial"i thought was a rare bullet" lol, ornamental hangar thinging may have came from back in tn now that I'm writing! Lol all others are from this hunt haha artillery cuff,infantry cuff! Are these officer buttons or just run of the mill artillery/infantry fellas? Fork is awesome and the thing with holes like a salt shaker is cool but I have no idea what it may be,nice rivet,percussion cap and i think a 32cal rimfire casing or 36cal. The kshot have always been right there whr I have spent 100+ hours probly pushing 200 at this point and if not for pitch audio and d2 I would still be walking over them even if hearing them as I'm certain I have! Anyone have ideas on big square thingy mobob? Chime in let me know what things are or any knowledge I'm missing or opinions not stated all is welcome! Thanks fellas,have a great day
  13. Hit the grassy area for 5 hours on Sunday tried hard to find another gold nugget didn’t happen but manage to dig up a 1900 barber dime. I’d 82-83-88 one way and 81-82 the other. I believe the coin was on edge 4-5 inches deep one of the reasons I bought the D2. Barber coin not corroded like many this one is just worn down from use. Denny
  14. My new XP Deus 2 arrived a week ago today and I have about 20 hours total on the machine. I've managed to get out 5 days for at least a short hunt. California is in a drought and my soil is prematurely super dry and digging is difficult when it should be moist and soft this time of year for another month or two. With the window to easy digging closing soon, I had need to get out immediately and test the Deus 2 before its too hot and dry to detect grassy areas for coins/jewelry. Excitement from having a new machine to test out certainly helped my motivation to get out and detect too. All locations were in VERY challenging soil ranging from highly-mineralized to severely-mineralized. 12-13 hours spent total in some local parks looking for coins and jewelry, and 7-8 hours out nugget hunting on an old patch hunted for several years by my dad, brother and I using our Minelab GPX 5000 machines. One great feature is the soil level graph on the Deus 2. I've always known my soil was bad, but now I can say for sure with hard data that it is TERRIBLE. All locations are 3/4 of a bar to a full bar on the soil level indicator. An accurate ID on a coin around here past 5-6 inches is a dream. Despite the bad soil, the Deus 2 ran very quietly and smoothly and even EMI wasn't really an issue, even next to power lines while in a city park. Definitely nice to see the Deus behave so well. However, the Deus 2 was no giant leap in detection depth in my soil. It's about on par with my Equinox 800 and past vlf detectors. Overall, I'm quite pleased with the Deus 2, even though I didn't "need" another vlf detector. This is the 5th vlf I've had since my White's 6000di Pro in 1995 when I started coin-shooting and I tend to go 5-10 years before I upgrade. Its been 3.5 years since I got my Equinox 800, but I jumped in "early" and got the XP since I've never had the brand before and have been intrigued by its unique features and audio. Luckily for me I am in a financial situation where I can now afford to own multiple detectors, though that wasn't always the case. Like many have reported, the Deus 2 is great in terms of its light weight and ease of swinging, especially with the 9in. coil. This is the first detector with an "S" style shaft and I find its easy on the wrist and a breeze to swing. Having to charge 3 separate devices, coil, headphones and control box is a little extra effort, but not insurmountable. The collapsible shaft is handy for making the whole thing compact in seconds and probably why nobody likely realized I had a detector in hand while walking a few blocks to a park along a busy street. On my first outing to a park with around 100 years of past use, using P5, Park program, I did a quick pass of the swings in the wood chip area and scored a few pennies. Next I hit a spot where during a few annual festivals, vendors sell items and food, and from past experience I knew was loaded with pulltabs and some bottle caps. I go to this area from time to time and go nuts digging mid-conductors in the hopes of finding gold, but no luck so far all these years. I did pull out a few coins missed by detectorists in the past, though mostly just zinc cents. I did notice right away how easy it was to swing over a target, do a cross sweep and know exactly where it was. I found I could locate and dig targets very quickly, definitely a plus when coin/jewelry searching is often a game of numbers. The more you dig, the better chance to come across a good find. I also briefly swung around an old bleacher area where I've found some 100 year-old coins over the years among the thick layers of bottle caps, pull tabs, foil, nails, etc. Determining where targets were was a breeze due to impressive separation and I definitely plan to work this area further later on. I feel optimistic the Deus 2 can sniff out a few more old coins among all that trash from this quick test. I searched another older park 2 different days and tried out some other programs like P3, sensitive full tones and P4, Fast. I then mostly defaulted back to using P1, General since it had good, loud audio and targets really stood out. I hunted for around 4 hours each day where I've had success with the Equinox bagging some older coins and a few silver jewelry pieces. I managed 2 silver war nickels (1945S and 1942S) and 9 wheat cents, the oldest being a 1910S that filled a spot in my penny album. I also dug plenty of aluminum trash hoping for gold, while getting familiar with the sounds of the new detector. I definitely dug more trash than usual while getting accustomed to the responses of the Deus 2. I did dig a few pieces of deeper iron, but I was skeptical on most, especially when pinpoint mode placed the target to the side of where I thought it would be. A good test I've found to ID iron most of the time. The VDI was solid and numbers did not vary more than a few digits on targets up to 4 inches or so. None of the old coins I found were past 4 inches deep, but that's similar to how its been for every machine I've run here in the past. I'd estimate half I found were hitting areas I'd passed by with the Equinox and the others due to me digging signals with a VDI in zinc penny range or slightly lower. Most of the wheat cents read 84-86 and would be missed by anybody also discriminating out zinc cents. In time, I hope to get to learn the machine better and start to unearth some deeper coins I know must be lurking. Its going to require tuning my ear to the audio and testing different programs on the Deus 2 to see what works best in my hot soil. I'm convinced if I can learn to hit coins at 6 inches or more, I'll start to pull out some even older examples. I may have to wait until fall and more rain since moist soil adds depth (and noise) at these locations. Overall, I'm happy with my first trips out hunting for urban coins and jewelry. I think performance-wise, the Deus 2 is about on par with my Equinox, but with its own distinct personality. I really enjoyed how quiet and smoothly the Deus ran and how it handled EMI. Its a breeze to swing, especially with the 9in. coil and I found with my background swinging the Nox, reading the instruction manual, and watching some Deus 2 videos, running the controls was fairly easy for me. Signals were extremely easy for me to locate, zero in on, and dig out. I think in terms of target retrieval speed and audio, the Deus 2 suits me more. Full tones (P3) seemed sort of muted and muffled in my bad soil, but other programs had great audio volume that said "dig me". I did dig more trash than usual, but that's part of learning a new machine. Hopefully with more time, I'll gel even more with the Deus, and I expect that to happen more quickly than with the Equinox. Both are great machines and are similar in performance. If you have one or the other, you are set for most circumstances. I'm fortunate to have both and can use experience gained from both to compliment my detecting skills. I'll write up more about my prospecting experience with the Deus 2 soon. This review has already gotten too long as it is!
  15. I hope this makes its way to someone at XP. I detect mostly with the Deep HC program with Square Full Tones. I find myself straining to hear deep targets, while surface trash is incredibly loud. I understand this functions is a depth indicator, but I would love to have the option to reverse its direction, so that deep targets are loud, and shallow ones soft. I understand I can increase Audio Response to make the deeper targets louder, but that doesn't help with the shallow targets, and just makes everything sound the same. Thank you! Oliver
  16. have you noticed ,nobodys mentioned em what progs have FMF and what are they ?and how do you choose which ones on a new self proggy? and what can they be ? and how deep can they be ..does full metal no discrim contain which 1s ? curious as i have no d2 yet and yet to be convinced
  17. Digging Dude demonstrates the D2 w latest software, running bottle cap reject using whole tone, 40khz multi tone…. Aaron
  18. My first video so be kind. Program is based off of the Park mode. Its a modified 5 tone with the Disc set at -6.4 (basically a four tone with the first tone set at 120hz). The other tone brakes are up to user Preferance. Bottle Cap, Silencer, and Notch set to 0. Reactivity 2.5. Save it to a custom slot and name it. Set a silver dime with two square nails on both sides. So here is what happens, I get a dime tone in most directions 360 degrees. Then I go back to the factory program (Park) and it only hits in two directions. I go back to my costom program and it behaves like the factory Park program (only hitting in two directions). You have to restart the Deus II in this custom mode to get it to hit in all directions again. Any thoughts? https://youtu.be/ZwdBKurAIeE
  19. Dirt Fish Mish tries out the Deus 2 in the Aussie gold fields along with Detect-ED friends using the Legend and Gold Kruzer. She finds her first nuggie........
  20. Has anyone experimented with the XY screen in the lower conductor range w beaver tails and ((small)) pieces of foil, comparing them to same range small gold? Thanks Aaron
  21. Hi guys, This is a 50 hour review of the Deus 2 which I posted over on the FMDF back in early March. I have at least 150 hours on it now, and my thoughts on the things mentioned below haven't changed much. Anyway, a friend asked me to post this over here as well, so I just copied and pasted it. Hope that's ok? Also, I'm not sure of the rules on posting YouTube videos or links here, so if I've posted something that I shouldn't have, moderators feel free to edit and remove it. My thoughts on the XP Deus 2 after 50 hours. Ok guys, time for another one of my long-winded reviews. If you've been here for a while, you've probably seen me post these before. The goal is just to share some unbiased thoughts on the new XP machine which will hopefully help anyone who may be on the fence about getting one. You'll get no BS fluff from me. I'll point out the good, the bad and the ugly. Now I can't speak on beach hunting, gold prospecting or long-term durability but I can offer my opinion on several other things including how it performs for the type of detecting I do, which is looking for coins and relics in the dirt. I'll break this down into specifics and give my thoughts on each. Ergonomics: Lets start with the remote. If you've used the original Deus or ORX, the first thing you'll notice is that the D2 remote looks and feels a lot beefier. It’s a little larger and seems more rugged. Gone are the days of poking the tip of your thumb into tiny round holes shaped like a set of bowling pins. The buttons on this unit are large and easy to use. Overall, the D2 remote is much improved compared to the original, but there are a couple of things that I'm not a fan of: 1) I don't like having to screw in a connector to charge it. I understand why they designed it this way (waterproofing), but it still takes extra time to get it connected and charging. Not a big deal, just a little annoying. Maybe someone will design a quick connector for us land hunters. 2) The way it attaches to the shaft is a bit cumbersome. You can't just quickly snap it on there. You have to really look at it and make sure everything is lining up. Again, just a minor gripe. The fact that we can even detach the control box in the first place is a damn cool feature not found on any other detector as far as I know. The shaft is much the same as the original with a couple of minor differences. They've shortened the levers which lock the shaft in place. They WILL pinch the meat of your hand if you're not paying attention. The handle is wrapped a little differently. It has a semi-rubber-like feel to it. Really comfortable in the hand. My two biggest complaints for this section are as follows: 1) For whatever reason, XP continues to put these tiny useless stands on their detectors. Every time I sit my detector down to dig, it just falls over. WTH? How much trouble would it be to make the damn stand an inch taller and an inch wider so that it actually makes contact with the ground and becomes functional? 2) The shaft is mounted at the rear of the coil which makes it difficult to do ground presses for leveling the coil. When detecting uneven ground, I think we all probably do ground presses several times per hunt. Just makes sense to make doing them easy! As a side benefit, moving the shaft to the center of the coil would help lift up the handle portion off the ground, which in turn would help make that ridiculous tiny stand more functional. After reading this, it may seem like I'm saying the ergonomics aren't good. That’s not the case at all. This is by far the most comfortable, lightweight, easy to swing detector that I've ever used. However, the idea is to point out the positives and negatives... and even though I love the way this detector handles, I see some room for improvement. Display: This is another area where I see room for improvement. The display is small and cramped. If you're like me, an old fart with failing vision, the smaller text on the display will be difficult to see. I'm no engineer but I wish they could've found a way to move the buttons further down and use up all the available space on the face of the remote to make the screen larger. As for what is shown on the display, it gives you a lot of info. Everything you need to know is right there. You'll just need to break out your glasses to see some of it. NOTE: XP released an update in v.6 on 3/11/22 that gives users the option to make the TID and Horseshoe larger so that it takes up the entire screen. It only switches to this view when a target is detected. This does make viewing those two elements easier, but here’s what I’d really like to see: Now that you can have it show the large numbers and Ferrous/ NonFerrous meter when a target is detected, why not remove the original ID and horseshoe when no target is being detected. That space could then be used to increase the size of everything else. Make the ground reading and other info larger and less cramped. No point in showing the smaller ID or horseshoe when nothing is being detected. Like the D1, the depth meter on the D2 is integrated on the horseshoe. A shallow or larger target fills in more of the shoe, a deeper or smaller target fills in less. I prefer a numeric depth readout, but you do get very good tonal depth info from the Deus with a proper Target Response setting, so together it works well enough. Battery: Like the original Deus and a lot of other newer detectors, the Deus 2 has a built in rechargeable battery. I think most manufacturers will continue with this trend due to weight savings and waterproofing. The non-user serviceable battery used to bother me but not anymore. They last a long time, the manufacturer can still replace them if needed, and we don't think twice about purchasing $1000+ cell phones with non-user serviceable batteries so why should a detector be any different? I can't say exactly how long a charge will last, but I can tell you that I've hunted several times now for 6 or 7 hours each day. The battery on both the coil and remote never dropped more than one bar. As long as I'm able to hunt all day without needing a re-charge, that’s all that really matters to me. I leave the backlight on low (3 I think?) all the time and it doesn't seem to effect battery life much. Menu: If you're coming from a Deus 1, learning the menu will be a piece of cake. Otherwise, it may take a bit of getting used to. To me, the layout was easy to understand and use, but I was already familiar with it after using a Deus 1 for several years. Some settings are in strange places IMHO. For example, to change the tones you need to access what they call the "expert" menu which is a group of sub settings below discrimination. Once you get used to how XP does things, its fairly straight forward. Target ID: This is one area where I saw a nice improvement over the original Deus. The Target ID on the Deus 2 is solid, even on deeper targets. On the Deus 1 the ID tended to get a little squirrely on anything past a few inches. The D1 also tended to up-average certain targets if they were deep. From what I've seen so far, this isn't the case with the D2. It's very stable. Of course, on a 100-point ID scale the numbers will vary slightly in highly mineralized ground or if you have some targets close together. In that case, just make sure you leave yourself a little wiggle room when setting your tone breaks. As it is right now, the ID flashes on the display and quickly disappears. I'd like to see an update that makes the Target ID numbers stay on the display for a little longer. {Edit} This was fixed in update version 0.7. Good job XP! Tones: The Deus is and always has been a tone machine. The Deus 2 is no exception. It offers the most descriptive audio of any machine I've used, and the sheer amount of tone options are one of its greatest features. You have the option to use two types of tones: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) which sounds like the original Deus, or Square which sounds similar to the Equinox. I'm sure I'll catch some flak for saying this, but now that I think about it, with the Square tone option and the option to run SMF or Mono, the Deus 2 is almost like having 3 detectors in one. The original Deus, the Deus 2 and the Equinox. Once you select the type of tones you want, you then have the option to use several different tone settings: Tone Breaks (2 tones, 5 tones, etc.) - You can control the target ID ranges for each tone and customize the pitch for each tone bin. Pitch Tones, which is like VCO - The closer the target is to the coil, the higher the pitch. Full Tones - Gives you a higher pitch based on conductivity of the target. What I've found is that different tone settings work best for different hunting situations. For example, if I'm hunting in a city park with lots of modern trash, I like to run Square Tones set up with Tone Breaks (5 tones). Reason being that Square tends to smooth out the audio and using Tone Breaks lets you concentrate on a specific set of tones rather than having your eardrums bombarded with a huge array of tones. Square tones do give you less tonal nuances compared to PWM, but sometimes less is more. Pitch tones is great for picking out non-ferrous targets from iron. Maybe you're hunting a pounded relic site and you're trying to sniff out a few more nonferrous targets hidden among the iron. Pitch will make them jump out at you. Trying to use Pitch in modern trash would most likely be sensory overload, but it has its place. {edit} Since posting this, I’ve changed my mind about using pitch in modern trash. It can actually work really well for coin shooting! See this post for details. Full Tones offers the most tonal nuance IMHO. You can actually hear shapes if running Full Tones and PWM. What I mean by that, is that you can hear the soft edges of a round target (musket ball, etc.) vs a flat target. You can hear the difference between a coin and a misshapen piece of can slaw. These tonal nuances are what makes the Deus really stand out from the rest. You can still hear them to a degree in other modes, but I've found that PWM Full Tones gives you the most tonal info. The Deus 2 also has a very useful feature called Audio Response. This is another way of saying modulation. A lower Audio Response makes deeper targets or smaller targets sound faint, and shallow or large objects loud. Basically, a tonal depth meter. The Audio Response setting is directly tied with tonal nuance. Cranking it up high will decrease the amount of nuance you get from the target. Pinpointing: The Pinpoint mode on the Deus 2 works well enough. You have the option to automatically ratchet down the target signal, or to do it manually by holding the coil just off to the side of the target and press/release the pinpoint button again. I don't like the fact that you have to press another button to get out of pinpoint mode. It would've been better if it were set up so that just pressing the same button again took you back into detecting mode. With the 9" coil, I don't even use the pinpoint feature all that much. You can tell pretty easily where the target is. The wiggle back method works well too. Default Programs: The out of the box programs on the Deus 2 work great, and if I could only offer one piece of advice to a new Deus user, it would be to stick with those default programs until you get comfortable with the machine. I've owned two Deus 1's. Years ago, when I bought the first one, I made the mistake of trying to adjust settings before I even understood what they did. I ended up getting frustrated with the machine and selling it. A year later I bought another one and actually took the time to learn how to use it. Loved it. I think we have a natural tendency to want to max things out to get the fastest speed or the most depth right away. What I mean by that is creating custom programs and maxing out the sensitivity, cranking up the reactivity too high (depth killer), lowering the silencer before you get a feel for detecting in iron, etc. Again, sometimes less is more. The default programs will perform very well in most situations, so don't be in such a rush to create that "awesome custom program". Learn the machine first. Another good thing with the Deus, is that if you do make changes and goof up one of the default programs, simply powering off the detector and turning it back on again will reset everything back like it was. To keep the changes, you'd need to save your program into one of the custom slots. Note: After performing a firmware update on 3/11/22, I noticed that updating also deletes all of your custom programs. This needs to be addressed ASAP. With all of the adjustments available on the Deus, having to re-create all of your custom programs after every update is a real pain in the @ss. I'm sure XP can find a work around with some effort. Update version 0.7 released on 4/14/22. It still erases all of your custom programs. XP, this needs to be fixed! Update version 0.71 released on 4/28/22. This update includes several bug fixes. My custom programs were not erased this time. YAY! This detector does offer the ability to fine tune a lot of settings. Some people think it has a steep learning curve but consider this: You don't need to make all those adjustments to enjoy the detector. However, options are good and they're there if you need them. If you're coming from using the original Deus, learning the Deus 2 should be pretty straight forward. I felt comfortable with the menu and settings after only a few minutes. If you've never used an XP detector, just take your time, and stick with the default settings until you get the hang of it. I did notice a slight annoyance in the Park program. For some reason it likes to report tiny pieces of wire way up in the 90s. Not a huge deal as its usually easy to tell that it’s not a coin thanks to the tonal nuance. Again, this only seems to happen in Park mode. If I switch to another program, it reads much lower where it should. I'm guessing this has something to do with the frequency set being used in Park mode. Depth: You've seen the test videos. The depth capabilities of the Deus 2 are very good. In my test bed, I was able to hit the same deep targets with the smaller 9" coil that were right on the edge of detection for my Nox 800 with its 11" coil. No complaints in the depth department. Speed: Its a Deus. Its lightning fast. Nothing more needs to be said. Headphones: IMHO, the backphones suck. Some folks may like them but I'm just not a fan. I'll be ordering a pair of the aftermarket headphones which accept the WS6 puck. The WS6 module itself is pretty awesome. As you probably know, it can be used as a standalone unit (without the remote). If at some point in the future you get a different coil, I think you could probably just get an extra shaft off their website and create another Deus detector. One using the remote, and another using the WS6 module. When you consider that, the price tag of the Deus doesn't seem so bad. Build Quality: So far it seems very good. Much like the original Deus. When you pick it up for the first time, it just feels like a quality piece of gear. Like some others, I did have the issue of a few screws being semi loose from the factory. I tightened them up. No big deal. FMF: Unfortunately I sold my Equinox 800 before my Deus 2 arrived so I wasn't able to do any head to head comparisons. I have taken the D2 to some of the sites that we've hit hard with several other detectors, and I did find some more good targets including a Barber dime with a piece of iron wire next to it. However, that doesn't prove anything IMHO. The only way to definitively say one detector is better/faster/deeper than another is to test them both on the same target, on the same day with similar settings. I don't think the D2 will be replacing my CTX for selective digging or cherry-picking silver in modern trash. Even though you can definitely cherry pick with the D2, the 3030 just gives you so much accurate target info that I still think it’s going to reign supreme for that type of hunting. At least for me, and at least for now. 50 hours isn’t enough time to master this or any other detector IMHO, so it’s a little early to make that call. That’s the way I’m leaning though. Final Thoughts: Ok, I’ve been rambling long enough. That’s my thoughts on the XP Deus 2 after 50 hours of use. Overall, I think it’s a great machine and I'm happy with my purchase. It is everything that I expected it to be. I have no ties with XP and whether or not you buy this detector doesn't affect me what-so-ever. Everything mentioned above is just my opinion. YMMV. My Deus 2 YouTube Vids:
  22. Please forgive such a newbie question, but I've reread the manual a few times and searched other resources, but I can't find an explanation of why you would want to reduce discrimination below zero. I understand the basic function of discrimination, but what would be the practical reason to drop it to -6.4 or any negative number if iron comes in at zero to about 10? Can anyone help me out with this basic concept? What am I missing here? Thanks!
  23. Anyone know how to remove the large number v0.06 and return back to the original v 0.06 version ? Thanks
  24. Hello, I have to say, I'm very disappointed with XP behavior and customer service. I bought Deus II and was just killing it. Then I made a big mistake, updated to v0.6 - the first one, without big TID. Since then, I've lost my depth, and had issue with not showing TID while having a good signal. Update v0.7 didn't fix depth issue. Pinpointing mode is now not working correctly - like, it's completely useless. All I want is ability to downgrade to v0.5! Why is it not possible? I don't care about YT videos, with comments turned off, telling me that it's ok on the test garden in US. It is NOT ok on my fields/forests. And I'm not the only one. Other users are eXPeriencing same issues. XP should behave like a serious company. They should openly discuss existing issues and communicate proposed solutions. E.g. like what did Dilek from Nokta today. Discuss what's in the pipeline and estimated timeline. Heck, Nokta is even implementing user-proposed features. I just want them to let me roll one version back!!! I know, that guys in XP have done a lot of work, they're exhausted etc. But we are their CUSTOMERS and they should communicate with us. If Legend was not so heavy, I would switch right now. Is someone here, who has same issues with Deus II? We should unite and push on XP...
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