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I am not even going to go into the stupid things I did in my younger years, I did some pretty stupid things when I was young, things that I look back on today and say what to hell were you thinking back then, some of those stupid things could have cost me my life (Thank God) they did not, at least in my 60s I am smart enough to not pull the stunts I did in my teen years and 20s, I look at these kids these days and see some things that just stop me in my tracks and then I remember hey stupid you did some things that were just as dumb back when you were their age

Personally speaking i would also consider the Garrett GM 24K if I were you, I owned the Gold Monster 1000 and there were things I did not like with the GM1000, it had bad coil knock sensitivity, and a few other things I just did not care for,and do not take what I say as the GM1000 as saying its a bad nugget detector it is not it was very hot on small non ferrous targets, have never owned any of the XP detectors or a gold bug 2 so I will not comment on either of those, I just think there are better nugget detectors out there than the GM1000 and in my opinion the Garrett 24K is one of those that I feel is better There is a very nice PI for sale in the Classifieds section that is a good buy in my opinion, if I did not have a PI already I would have jumped all over this already, I believe its still available and I think it would make a great first PI for someone something you need to think about do you want a all around detector or do you want a gold specific detector What part of AZ are you located

Yep we are all in good company that's for sure

I would have been freaking out when I realized I had just backed over a $9000 detector, its great that it ended up the way it did but man were you very lucky to say the Least

Thats the one I am really interested in also, but having a choice of four would be great

Here is how I look at it when I own a detector, I purchase as many of the available coils for what ever particular detector, I would rather purchase the coils and have the options whether I ever use all the coils or not because there will come a time I run into a situation that a big coil will work better than a 6 inch round same goes for the 6 inch round there are times it works better, it is the same for all coils there are times I use that little 4x6 when I need it, if I didn't have it i would be wishing I did, when I am out detecting I do not like putting myself into a situation where I am wishing I had this coil or that coil, when I go into a spot to detect I carry every coil I have purchased with me for the particular detector I will be swinging, just like the Axiom, I purchased two other coils for it also and am planning on picking up a third extra coil just to have the options for situations that arise that call for a different coil, if I never use one of those other options oh well it does not matter but if I need a different option i have it That was one of my issues with the Gold Monster was the limited coils that were available, there were and still are only two why ??

I love that little 4x6 coil it is very handy when you are in areas where you have to get a coil in between very tight spots that the other three coils will not fit into, on the opposite side of the coin i also love that 14x8 when you have areas that you can swing a bigger coil like larger open areas that do not have any or very few obstacles to get around, all four of the coils for the 24K have there place of use

although that 4x6 is out there but, it does take a bit to locate one that someone is willing to part with, I just happened to be looking at the rite time and I am not one that is afraid to ask if someone is willing to sell things separately, it took me a month or so and calling people that had them before I finally was able to locate the one I have

yep if you would had read my whole thread you would have seen that I stated the faint signal ended up being a piece of wire

Have never weighed my ring but it is 18K gold and it was giving a high low screaming tone on the Axiom, which does not have TIDs on the Axiom but was registering on the non ferrous side of the ferrous non ferrous meter around middle way up on non ferrous side, and yep it was signaling on the Axiom because I was using my left hand to run my scoop across the coil which I had a glove on both hands, which was why it never dawned on me that it was seeing my ring

Fortunately have never miss placed a detector while out detecting, but I did drive off and forgot to pick up a $1000 chainsaw one time when I was out cutting firewood, that one hurt because I used that saw to make money with, drove back 60 miles to the last place I had used it and Bigfoot or someone beat me to it

Guess I am in an elite group of people Going to start telling people I am a member of the (Stupid Things We Have Done Group) Happy to be a part of such an illustrious group of people LOL

I use these and love them https://docsdetecting.com/product/knee-pads-doc-endorsed-best-knee-pads-i-have-ever-used/

As @phrunt said in his reply all four would go over big with us detectorist, with the four different types you posted up there would be something for each and everyone of us detectorist we would have to look no further than Avantree for our detecting, hearing devices, they would all work

Yep I have done plenty of stupid things in my life, some of them I do not even care to share or think about, I chalk them up to another learning experience, I have set and watched people do some stupid things and been on the other end of the stick and done some stupid things, i just tell myself, (I wont be doing that ever again) LOL but I know it will probably happen again at some point just hope its not to soon so I can chalk it up to being old

How many out there have done something that just made you shake your head and think to yourself how freakin stupid can you be, well I can tell you I sure have LOL and yesterday was one of those days. Went out detecting for a bit to relax my mind yesterday morning and to get some more time on the Axiom drove out to a spot about 5 miles from my house, put my gloves on pick in hand and going up a wash swinging away enjoying the great out doors, get a very faint target so I get down and start going to town with my pick, move about an two inches of dirt, swing the Axiom over the spot again target still in the ground dig a little more, still a faint target but keeps getting a bit louder the deeper i dig pull another couple of inches of dirt out of the spot and the target is gone so I am thinking ok I have it out of the ground after digging down around 4-5 inches, start scooping up dirt in my plastic scoop third scoop Axiom is screaming, I am scratching my head because it was not that loud in the ground even after I had dug down at around 2-3 inches it was just a faint target, but in the scoop its screaming start doing the half in the hand and other half in the scoop across the coil, still screaming transfer half to my hand again and half in the scoop again still screaming in the scoop nothing on the half that was in my right hand, look in the scoop a bit and I see nothing, but the Axiom was screaming when I would slide my scoop over the Axiom coil so I look in the scoop again still screaming I am thinking as loud as the axiom is screaming there has to be a big honking nugget or piece of metal in my scoop, still nothing I am perplexed to say the least and standing there in bewilderment because every time I slid the scoop across the Axiom coil it would scream, run the magnet into the dirt that in the scoop nothing, started getting these thoughts in my head there is something wrong with the Axiom or the coil, after about an hour of going through the same ritual dirt in scoop across the coil and listening to the Axiom scream, it finally dawned on me I was sliding the scoop across the Axiom coil using my left hand, on my Left hand I wear a pretty good size wedding ring which I did not notice because I had gloves on, and that is what the Axiom was picking up Oh the faint target was a pretty small piece of scrap wire There is my dumb stunt for the day give me some of your dumb stunts.

Hi Wiggins at one time I had a pair of these that I used when I was the foreman on a landscape maintenance crew for a school district, I would actually wear them while running a mower which mowers have very loud volumes when the blades and engine is running I would listen to music through these while I was operating a mower and they had great volume that I could hear music over the mower through these, they were made by Panasonic and are no longer in production, they were produced back in the early 2000s https://www.aptx.com/products/panasonic-btg-s10-bone-conduction-headset if Avantree could produce something like these I believe they would work great for Metal Detecting

totally agree with you Wiggins, on the Bone Conduction headphones

well that's not exactly a full set of dentures, LOL i could see how someone could loose just one cap, caps become loose and fall off

I think you are correct, with the way Bone conduction transfers the sound through your Cheek Bone to allow for hearing the sounds, there may be a limit as to what a manufacture could achieve as far as volumes are concerned, I will say the Bone Conduction phones I tried even though they had onboard volume control on the headphones themselves the volume was limited by the amount of volume control that the detector itself could be adjusted to a fore instance with the Legend it only has 6 volume levels that the Legend is capable of achieving so even at its loudest volume setting of 6 it just was not enough, but when I used the same bone Conduction phones with the Axiom using a transmitter plugged into the headphone jack of the Axiom the Volume was considerably louder through the Bone Conduction phones, it was the same with my 24K so the volumes that can be achieved is really dependent on both the detector and the Bone Conduction phones being able to be adjusted to a higher volume level Avantree also produces a Bone Conduction style headphone called Lingo, the Lingo is Air Conduction, the Lingo works fairly good also except when the wind is blowing, then you can not hardly hear the tones I will say each and every bone conduction and air conduction device I tried worked fantastic and had great volume with my Cell or when using them with my Lap Top or TV they all had great volume Levels but were the complete opposite when using them with a detector, which is what tells me that the Volumes that can be achieved is dependent on how high the volume can be adjusted on what ever device you connect them to

I would love to see Avantree come out with some wireless true bone conduction headphones that has really good audio volume levels and good audio sound I have tried several pairs of Bone Conduction headphones some were compatible with the aptX LL and a couple were not and the main issue I ran into with all of the Bone Conduction headphones I tried, was the volume was not adequate enough to make them usable with a detector, yes you could hear the tones but it was a struggle to hear the tones and if the wind was blowing it was impossible to hear anything through them, yes putting a pair of earplugs in your ears helped with being able to hear the sound coming through them but for me personally the whole reason I want Bone Conduction headphones is so I can stay aware of what is happening around me, and having to put a set of earplugs in to be able to hear the tones coming from your detector kind of defeats the purpose for me wearing bone conduction headphones I like your headphone set up @Chet other than the wire aspect, how is the volume of the headphones ???

I hope you meant aptX LL instead of just aptX because there is a huge difference of Latency aptX LL from my understanding is 40ms or lower and standard aptX is 150ms or higher

Yep like finding someones Dentures, as was recently posted by @Gerry in Idaho, you have to wonder what happened to the person that lost them or how in the world did someone loose them, a ring or a necklace or even a hearing aid I can understand but a set of dentures ????

I am liking mine, just a new learning experience is the way I look at it, but I believe i picked a easy enough one to learn on

The problem is that Simplex Goose never DIE'S LOL