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  1. A small story and then a question. ordered my detector from a long time detector dealer down south. Order was smooth. So I get the UPS shipping notice and I see Texas distributor entered my Name a bit off and street name missing the first letters. Oh boy. So contacted the dealer and even called the distributor and they said the contacted UPS and it should be ok. We’ll see. Now the question. Every detector I have had, I think, you just plugged the charger in to charge. So it says it runs great on just regular alkaline batteries but I like rechargeable. Do the rechargeable batteries use the same holder? Manual not that clear on that. Also regular nicads? And are going rechargeable worth it due to shorter use.? Thanks , Joe
  2. WOWOWOWOWOW they've made the 6" Concentric coil. I'm so glad they're including coil covers, the covers are just impossible to get in NZ otherwise, and importing a coil cover from the USA costs what you guys pay for the coil ? I guess they felt the other sizes were not going to be good sellers, but in reality that Concentric is the must have coil for 24k owners. This is great news, thanks Garrett.
  3. Please, my Garrett 24k 10x6" coil now I can not increase the sensitivity above 7 and I change for 6" and the problem solved. now the 6" also doing the same thing given me strong sound like the coil is close to heavily target with repeated symbols " Dash" on the screen even in the air. Bu when I reduce it to 7 and below it stop. Please, What is the cause?
  4. Are GMX and 24K coils interchangeable? A buddy of mine is looking for a 6 inch GMXcoil but they are getting rare and expensive used compared to the 24K Coils.
  5. Given the improvements in target separation in the 900 and the already proven Equinox ability on small gold, what are the reasons to own a 24k over a 900 for purely nugget hunting? The 24k has an edge on price, but when you include an extra coil and wireless headset that gap is pretty much closed. There are the obvious differences such as frequency, ability to configure the machine, waterproofing, etc, but when the machines are out in the field with all this thrown in a blender is there still a reason to go with the less featured 24k? Is the 24k performing better in more soil types? Do people see more depth given similar coil sizes? Thanks in advance for all your thoughts.
  6. I mainly relic hunt in very hot ground in Central Virginia. Thanks, George.
  7. This morning I sold some of the gold rings I've found for Au$ 1,800.. This didn't include gold rings that I've given away or those which were returned to their owner.. I could've made a bit more and during the haggling I nearly reached for the Vaseline a few times.. Thing is, the gold buyer lives on the island and to deal with my usual buyer I'd have to catch a ferry to the mainland and then 2 busses to his house (if he's not in the pub).. So hassle wise this worked out better but old matey on the mainland might have been a bit less stingy.. Since I had a huge amount of cash to splash, I decided to see if I could get a second-hand Goldmaster 24K in reasonable condition.. I've been very keen to buy one since trying out my mate's.. He offered to sell it for Au$ 900 last year but I didn't have that sort of money at the time.. I thought the GM24K compared well to his Goldmonster 1000 and my Equinox 800.. This is prospecting dry creek beds and exposed bedrock on relatively mild grounds (compared to further west).. Usage wise the GM24K felt a bit like my Gold Bug Pro, I've always liked pistol-grips.. Even better gossip: I bought the Goldmaster 24K with MS3 Z-Lynk headphones for only Au$ 750.. And the thing's nearly brand spanking new, it's only been used inside for testing purposes.. In Oz this detector cost around Au$ 1,350 and MS3 Z-Lynks go for Au$ 240.. I couldn't hit the 'buy' button fast enough.. I know some of you are thinking 'dumb bastard's been scammed' or 'buy in haste, repent at leisure' or the good old standby 'if it seems too good to be true, it probably is'.. But once you've seen the pictures (the ad even had a little video), you'll realize you're just suffering from sour grapes and won't begrudge my amazing luck.. After this bargain I still had a great big fist full of dollars, so I also bought the 24K 6'' concentric coil.. I've never used this coil (only the 10x6''), how does it compare to 6'' Equinox or 5'' Gold Bug coils? The detector didn't come with any batteries (postage rules) so I bought some rechargeable ones.. They are 3800 mAh.. How many mAh are the batteries that come with the GM24K? Can higher mAh batteries damage the detector? Today's bill: Goldmaster 24K and MS3 Z-Lynk (+ 10x6'' coil, extra headphones, charger etc etc).. Au$ 750 24K 6'' concentric coil.. Au$ 370 8 x Ni-Mh (3800 mAh) rechargeable batteries.. Au$ 44 --------- Au$ 1,164 It's always great when you can buy a detector and coils from the proceeds of your finds, and still have a small fortune to spare! ?
  8. Well I finally was able to pick up the final coil I was searching for, for my Garrett 24K, the 4x6 and man it is tiny compared to the 14x8 which is currently mounted to my 24K
  9. The White's Goldmaster 24K is a new 48 kHz gold nugget detector released in the fall of 2018. Production models started shipping in September and White's forwarded one to me to check out. What follows are my thoughts after a couple days of detecting for gold on several northern Nevada nugget patches. The Goldmaster 24K marks a break with the past as White's moves from the older metal box designs of the past to newer plastic cases. The Goldmaster 24K physical design is the latest in the evolution of the MX series. The control box itself is derived directly from that used on the White's MX5. The control pod / display originated with the TreasurePro and later used in the MX Sport and MX7 designs. Basically the Goldmaster 24K is in the same housing and rod design as the White's MX7. Manufacturers face a difficult design choice these days. In general users want metal detectors to be as light as possible. However, weight is not everything - balance matters every bit as much. The problem is that a metal detector search coil is basically a weight on the end of a long stick. Coils can only be made so light due to engineering constraints requiring a certain amount of copper wire, and a reasonably robust coil housing. The coil therefore has a lot to do with determining the final ergonomics of the detector. If the coil weight is not balanced at the other end with some kind of offsetting weight, the detector is nose heavy. This in turn creates torque everytime the detector changes directions, which puts stress on the operators arm. The detector can be made as light as possible, or can be perfectly balanced, but it is almost impossible to do both in one detector. Any detector that weighs less than 3 pounds is almost certain to be nose heavy because enough weight does not exist to balance the weight of the coil. In order to have enough weight to work with it appears the minimum is about 3.5 lbs for detectors that are well balanced. The extra weight is almost always in the form of a battery box located under the elbow. White's has gone this route is the MX series designs with a battery box holding 8 AA batteries under the elbow acting as a balancing weight. This results not only in a well balanced detector but a detector with enough batteries to operate for multiple days between charges or battery changes. White's Goldmaster 24K metal detector for gold prospecting Another big choice manufacturers have to make these days is whether to use a straight rod or a "S" rod design. Users tend to be evenly split as to which they prefer, and so this is a choice the manufacturer cannot possibly win. About half the people are going to be unhappy whichever way you go. Industrial type users like beach hunters and prospectors tends to prefer straight rods. Coin, jewelry, and relic hunters seem more inclined to "S" rods. I have used many detectors with either setup, and have been happy with both or unhappy with both. The deciding factor for me has been more about the exact size, shape, and angle of the hand grip than the actual rod design. I do not have over-sized hands, and so I tend to prefer a smaller diameter grip. Other people like a larger grip. I went into all that detail to be sure the reader understands that weight and balance is very much a personal preference item. Getting a detector to fit right for everyone is like making a pair of boots that fits everyone. You can't do it. Therefore when I say that the MX physical design as employed in the Goldmaster 24K is a very good fit for me don't take that as meaning it will be great for you. Yet it is a very good fit for me, and quite comfortable on my arm, with just enough forward weight to keep my elbow in the arm cup without having to use the arm strap. The design is also lighter than the White's GMT by nearly half a pound, so the Goldmaster 24K is both well balanced and lighter than what came before. The Goldmaster 24K with 10" elliptical coil and with batteries installed weighs 3 lbs 7 oz (3.4 lbs) or 1562 grams on my digital postal scale. The Goldmaster 24K has an IP54 rated enclosure that has a high level of protection against dust particles, and a fair amount of protection against water. The coils are waterproof, but the detector itself is not submersible, so keep that display pod out of the water. The "S" rod is a three piece design with excellent quality twist locks that create a firm, wobble free rod assembly when fully engaged. The armrest position is not adjustable but it is well placed. The 24K is powered by eight AA batteries in a battery holder that pops out of the rear of the battery box. The 24K is supplied with eight alkaline AA batteries, but rechargeable batteries may be substituted for use in the battery holder. The 24K can get up to 40 hours operation using high quality alkaline batteries and while using headphones (external speakers use more power). The Goldmaster 24K does have a speaker built into the rear of the display pod, and there is a female 1/4" headphone jack directly above the battery door. White's thoughtfully includes a small plastic plug to insert into this hole when not in use. White's 24K battery holder and headphone jack location The Goldmaster 24K comes with a 5.5" x 10" DD coil as the stock coil. A 6.5" round concentric coil is available as an option. Scuff covers for the coil are not included with the detector or when you buy an accessory coil - they are separate optional items. The 5.5" x 10" DD search coil weighs 14.5 oz or 412 grams. The coil is 1" thick. The 6.5" round concentric coil is 3/4" thick and weighs 13.1 oz or 370 grams. Therefore the 24K when outfitted with the 6" concentric weighs in at 3 lbs 5 oz (3.3 lbs). White's possibly has a 13.5" x 8" DD available soon that weighs 1 lb 8 oz or 682 grams. Finally, a version of the 4" x 6" Shooter DD is in the works also. Neither of these coils is available for sale as of March 2019 (edit - they are now), so for now the GMK has one accessory coil (the 6" concentric) available for purchase. Do note that all pre-existing coils for other White's Goldmaster or GMT models are not compatible with the Goldmaster 24K. The 24K pumps about 50% more voltage to the coils than previous models, requiring tighter tolerances in the new coils. The coil connector has been changed to prevent confusion. 5.5" x 10" DD search coil and 6.5" round concentric coil for White's Goldmaster 24K The Goldmaster 24K shares many functions with the White's GMT model but there are differences. The most obvious being that the GMT uses knobs for control adjustments. The 24K uses a sealed touchpad which is more water and dust resistant, but some controls have secondary functions that necessitate having the Quick Guide near at hand when learning the detector. The 24K like the GMT does of course have a sensitivity control, and like on all hot VLF detectors it is a critical control. The solution to most problems regarding metal detector instability, or interference, is to reduce the sensitivity. The 24K features both automatic ground tracking, or a fixed ground balance, adjusted via a tap of a "ground grab" button. In this case the pinpoint button doubles as a ground grab when given a quick tap. Ground tracking can be a great function for variable ground and people new to detecting. Personally I prefer to lock the ground setting (via the "Lock" button) and update it manually via the ground grab function. I did use the ground tracking however, just to try it out. It is lightning quick, taking just a pump or two to track into the ground. Ground grabs are instantaneous. The White's GMT allowed for a locked ground balance to be tweaked up or down manually, via plus or minus buttons on the control pod. The 24K takes a slightly different route by allowing a "ground balance offset" to be dialed into the detector. The ground balance offset is a powerful feature, and so deserves some explanation. Prospectors often prefer manual ground balance because they can choose their own setting that for various reason might be different than what a machine will choose using a preset function like ground grab. Ground grab may be set to deliver a very neutral ground balance. The prospector may prefer that the balance be slightly positive to help enhance tiny nugget signals. They may want to choose a ground balance setting halfway between the ground itself and some pesky hot rock, which may mean adjusting either positive or negative from the neutral setting. This might require that the operator first do a ground grab, then hit the plus button a couple times to manually offset the ground balance. The 24K has a "Follow The Black Sand" mode like on the GMT, but it is now called Ground Scan. Ground Scan is enabled by pushing and holding the ground balance "Lock" button. While in Ground Scan the "Up" and "Down" buttons create a ground balance offset. This offset is retained when you leave Ground Scan mode, and will be applied both when doing a ground grab, and even while in ground tracking mode. The Ground Scan / Follow The Black Sand thing is intended to allow a prospector to locate and trace shallow magnetic sand deposits, that might indicate potential gold concentrations. This is a rarely used function, but including the offset ability means this function may be accessed more often just to create these ground balance offsets. With the GMT you could ground grab, and then manually tweak the setting, but the tweak had to be applied every time the ground grab is performed. Now the offset can be dialed in and automatically applied. The real zinger however is that this also allows the 24K ground tracking function to be directly tweaked - very, very rare indeed. Almost every detector I have ever used has a preset ground tracking circuit that puts the ground balance where it wants, end of story. With the White's Goldmaster 24K you can create a tracking offset, to deal with hot rocks in a way that simply can't be done with most other ground tracking systems. Really cool White's! White's Goldmaster 24K detector with optional 6" concentric coil The 24K has the volume control the GMT lacks, which is quite handy for those who want to run without headphones, but not necessarily at full volume. There are 8 levels of volume plus two boost settings, Boost 1 (b1) and Boost 2 (b2) that kick in when you adjust the volume control above 8. The GMT features a Variable Self Adjusting Threshold (V/SAT) control, that governs the rate at which the audio resets itself when passing over a target, or ground variations. The GMT has a knob that runs from 1 to 10, and on the Goldmaster 24K the SAT setting has been simplified to three settings - off, medium, and fast. The default setting of medium is all most people will ever need. However, in extreme low mineral ground the off setting can enhance weak signals, although the detector may need very careful coil control, and slower coil sweeps, to allow the circuit to keep up. Conversely, extreme high mineral variable ground may require the fast setting to smooth out variations in the ground signal. The threshold control itself is interesting. Normally on an old school threshold based all metal detector the all metal mode, and threshold, are one and the same. The Goldmaster 24K like some newer digital models appears to employ what is referred to as a "reference threshold". The threshold may be adjusted, but appears to be disconnected from the all metal channel, and is instead layered on in parallel. The SAT control above does directly affect the all metal channel as described above. Yet it does what it does whether the threshold is present or not. Reference thresholds often exist for the sole purpose of nulling, or going silent, when passing over items that have been discriminated out, but this does not happen when the Iron Cancel (see below) is engaged. While bench testing in all metal with the SAT set at zero, I thought I might just be able to hear a waver in the threshold. I would be interested in hearing from other nugget hunting experts on this matter, because in my opinion the threshold as it exists on the Goldmaster 24K, is not coupled to the all metal channel in the manner one would observe on the GMT for instance. The only effect seems to be with threshold completely off the 24K will no longer give any ground feedback at all if out of ground balance. Based purely on what I am observing in actual use I would say the 24K is a silent search detector, with a reference threshold added, as opposed to a true threshold based all metal circuit like on the GMT. The difference is subtle, but there for my ear at least, and if there is a connection there between threshold and all metal channel, it is too minimal for me to discern while in actual use. Now we get into the real meat of where the GMT and Goldmaster 24K part ways. The GMT has an iron (ferrous) probability meter as does the Goldmaster 24K. The GMT meter is merely a bar graph - far left means 10% chance of ferrous and far right means 90% chance of ferrous. Somewhere in the middle means 50% chance of ferrous. The Goldmaster 24K puts a blacked out block at the top of the screen with similar positioning, but the actual percentage numbers display out as a "target id" number. This is not a target id number as thought of on coin detectors, but instead intended to be a display of the odds that an item is non-ferrous. White's Goldmaster 24K controls and display screen If you look at the display above there is a colored bar at the top of the 24K LCD meter - red on left, wide yellow middle, and dark gray on right. The three colors taper one into the other to indicate overlap. The red on the right indicates the probable ferrous range, and dark gray indicates items reading too high to probably be gold, but more likely a copper, brass, or silver item (high conductors) or certain ferrous items that "wrap around" and "read high". These include hardened steel items like large bolts, almost any washers, ax heads, etc. In theory this scale could be used for coin detecting, but the coins with few exceptions like a nickel tend to bunch up all on the right. The intent really is to be more of a ferrous/non-ferrous meter, but I do think I could make do with this for some general detecting scenarios. In air tests a nickel read 88, zinc penny 95, dime 96, and quarter 97. The Goldmaster 24K has an Audio Mode button, that engages and disengages something analogous to the "Iron Grunt" feature on the GMT. Engaging the Audio Mode replaces the normal VCO type "zippy" audio with a simple high or low beep. Any meter reading below 50 will deliver the low "ferrous" beep and anything 50 or higher a high "non-ferrous" beep. Since the gold probability range runs much lower, this is helping the operator concentrate only on the high probability targets - anything with over a 50% chance of being non-ferrous. This "over 50% equals non-ferrous" audio mode could be useful for direct hunting in some situations. However, when pushing the detector hard in all metal mode, and then switching the Audio ID mode on, I found that I would have to reduce sensitivity, or encounter quite a few false signals in mineralized ground. That being the case I was more prone to using this as a ferrous check, by engaging the button for a quick audio reading, then back again to all metal mode. The Audio Mode as I described it above acts much like the Iron Grunt feature on the GMT, but on the GMT the ferrous audio alert only kicks in when there is an 85% or greater chance of the item being ferrous. It is not a certainty on how the percentages correlate, but the 24K audio ferrous tone does kick in at readings of 50 and below (greater than 50% chance of being ferrous). Borderline gold targets can read lower than this however, down into the 40s and even lower. A 30% chance of gold is still pretty good odds. So what to do now except read the numbers? White's has addressed this with another control, the Iron Cancel button. Engaging Iron Cancel activates an adjustable iron rejection setting. The default is for anything reading 15 or lower to simply not beep. This corresponds to the solid red area on the bar graph display at the top of the meter. Borderline or mixed content items will break up or give erratic readings. The best part however is that the setting can be adjusted from 0 all the way up to 62. This allows the operator to completely block out a chosen range of low end readings that is either more conservative or more aggressive than the Audio Mode preset. As noted before, the threshold, if any is used, will not blank over rejected items - they are simply ignored. I noted above that highly conductive items and some steel items can read at the very high end of the scale, typically 95 and above. If the goal really is gold, it is very unlikely that readings this high will be gold, and so White's also offers the ability to block out this high end range. Tapping the "lock" button while in the ferrous adjustment mode, will automatically block all readings of 94 and higher, which is where most iron high end false signals will occur. Other controls on the Goldmaster 24K - a pinpoint function, frequency shift to help avoid electrical interference, or for running two 24Ks close together, a backlight for the meter for low light conditions, and finally, a factory reset. To perform a factory reset, hold the down arrow when turning the detector on. FD will display on the screen when the detector powers on. Now press the pinpoint crosshair button. The FD will clear from the screen, and the detector has been reset to default factory values. White's Goldmaster 24K with stock 10" x 5.5" DD coil Now for the part everyone has been waiting for - how does the Goldmaster 24K at finding gold? When I test nugget detectors I tend to concentrate on smaller gold. First, because it is more plentiful, and easier to find in limited time frames for testing purposes. Realistically small gold also challenges the detector the most. A metal detector must be tuned as hot as possible to find very small bits of gold. Yet this also causes problems with mineralized ground and hot rocks. It is not so much the small gold sensitivity that matters, but how the metal detector handles the ground while tuned up for tiny gold. This is why air tests are minimally useful for nugget hunters. They can reveal theoretical information about how small or how deep a detector can find gold under perfect conditions. Air tests give no indication however of how the detector will handle bad ground, and hot rocks, when tuned to the max. A detector can air test extremely well and fail completely in the field. Therefore when you see my metal detector test reports, pay attention to the smallest nuggets I find, not the larger ones. The 10" DD coil is a good all around nugget hunting coil, with DD coils having the advantage for handling difficult ground. It was the 6.5" round concentric that wowed me, however, and after I got it on the detector I really did not want to take it off. The 10" DD will be a better choice for really bad ground, but lacks that magic edge on the tiniest bits of gold. I also appreciate that concentric coils are easier to pinpoint with, and generally have better ferrous identification performance compared to DD coils. One nice thing about the 24K being well balanced is the 13.5" x 8" coil is less nose heavy than would be the case for an unbalanced detector. This is the coil to use for covering ground in search of larger gold nuggets. For medium to milder ground, and the smaller gold, I really do like that little concentric. In particular there is a lot of grass growing in some desert areas, and the 24K with 6" coil was perfect for mowing through the grass to keep the coil on the ground. This is another area where an "S" shaft has the advantage. A straight shaft detector wants to roll to the side when forcing the coil against resistance, where a balanced "S" shaft being in line with your arm does not produce that kind of rollover torque. The 10" x 5.5" DD coil was a little more prone to false signals when bumped hard than the concentric coil, to the point where I could run higher sensitivity with the concentric on this particular ground. The ground in lots of Nevada is rather mild, often with alkali (salt) content, and it may or may not have bad hot rocks. This particular location had two types of hot rocks to deal with. The bottom line is I was able to run the concentric at full sensitivity of 10, and in audio boost 2 (b2) while in all metal mode and SAT set at medium (default). Even with the machine maxed out like this the detector ran well, and as I said before falsed less than the DD coil would if I attempted the same settings. White's new XGB ground balancing system really does seem to do a good job finding a setting that works well with both hot rocks, and the ground, by tracking multiple ground balance points. I liked to engage tracking, run over a mix of ground and hot rocks, and then lock the setting. I was scrubbing and pretty much digging everything. The Goldmaster 24K with the little concentric is hot as a pistol, and as usual if you give me a hot detector I was able to find some really tiny gold. The eight nuggets below weigh a total of 8.3 grains (not grams - 480 grains per Troy ounce). The largest nugget is 1.8 grains and the smallest are in that under 1/10th gain range. Now, none of these were super deep because you can't find tiny gold super deep, but they were all good zippy targets - and I was not using headphones! Gold nuggets found by Steve with new White's Goldmaster 24K - smallest under 1/10th grain The proof is in the pudding, and there is no doubt the Goldmaster 24K can find the gold, and some really small gold at that. I am not going to try and convince anyone that there is some kind of magic breakthrough here - at the end of the day the 24K is a hot 48 kHz single frequency metal detector just like the GMT in many regards. Some oldtimers may still prefer the GMT for its threshold being tightly connected to the all metal channel, while the threshold connection on the 24K is weaker. Although the Goldmaster 24K can be run hot and noisy, all its design features point to a detector that is intended to be set up as quiet as possible, and this may even mean running without a threshold. I did not see any evidence that this would really hurt the performance at all. This kind of quiet hunting tends to appeal more to people new to nugget detecting, especially those who cross over from coin detecting. Add this to the lighter weight and lower cost package, and White's has done a great job producing an alternative to the admittedly long in the tooth GMT. Steve Herschbach DetectorProspector.com White's Goldmaster 24K Data & User Reviews White's Goldmaster 24K Quick Start Guide White's Goldmaster 24K Advanced User Guide White's Goldmaster 24K XGB Ground Tracking Explained White's Goldmaster 24K & GMT Compared Little gold nugget on coil fresh out of the ground
  10. This is an addendum to the post I made about Metal Detecting For Gold In Finland. I thought it would be good to put my money where my mouth is and show what the Garrett 24K can do on a scrape and detect operation. For details on the procedure see that thread. The long story short is I used the 24K with 6" concentric coil to carefully work through material an inch or two at a time, with the goal of missing as little as is humanly possible. Condor and I found some real nice specimen gold a couple years ago. I have been sure our PI detectors left some tiny bits behind and have been wanting to go back with a hot VLF ever since. Wanting to write this up finally provided the impetus for me to do so. This is the work site. The 24K was running default settings with volume at Boost 2 and Sensitivity 7 out of 9. I ground balanced an average of the ground and a couple small hot rocks and found sensitivity 7 to work best with the hot rocks, any more making it harder to discern them for what they are. I kept the ground balance locked once I got it where I wanted it. As I had it set the rocks gave a negative "boing-boing" response while gold gave the standard "zip-zip" response. I removed the surface rubble and detected, finding a couple small bits. Then a few hours of scrape the surface down an inch or two, followed by careful detecting of the surface and the removed soil. The 24K 6" coil combo is basically immune to knock sensitivity, so I actually used the coil as a rake to smooth and push the dirt down the hill. The gold seems confined to a certain horizon in the bank and gave out once I got down a little deeper than where Condor and I had left off. The two smallest bits both weighed in at 0.050 grams and once cleaned up the total weight was 1.662 grams for the fourteen little specimens found. The largest was 0.25 gram. The only other thing I wanted to mention was I was surprised at how well the 6" coil on 24K identified the gold as non-ferrous. Ferrous items just bang repeatedly at the far left of the meter. Tiny bits of gold do jump around a lot, even reading ferrous now and then, but the bottom line is if you get any non-ferrous readings dig it. Only ignore targets that never come off a ferrous indication in multiple sweeps. Even the smallest bits here gave reliable non-ferrous readings, boosting my faith in this detector quite a bit for work in ferrous trash. Anyway, fun little outing, and demonstrates how gold can be found without ever moving off a small location... of course providing the gold is there to find!
  11. I am new to gold prospecting and nugget hunting and just recently purchased a new Goldmaster 24k. To learn more about this endeavor I have been reading as much as possible on this and other forums. I have read comments on this forum that one advantage of the VLF detector is its ability to discriminate between gold and junk in areas of past or historic mining activity. And I have also read that the conductivity of gold will vary depending upon its purity. At the risk of sounding dumb and having missed the obvious, my question is this: How do I use the VLF to discriminate, find gold and avoid the trash in a trashy area that may have iron scrap, bird shot, empty 22 shell casings, aluminum foil and other modern and old trash? Thank you to all of you in advance for your patience and help.
  12. hi all as some of you know i just picked up a garrett 24 k from rick n mi (smoking deal thanks rick) i took it out to a very beat up area & gave it a run ,, the 24 k garrett runs super smooth.. ez to operate ..hot vlf gold detector ... just like steve said .. i like the balance & operation of the unit ..a real pleasure to hunt with . i would love to tell you how much gold it found but alas it was not to be today .. but... it did find 12 targets in this worked out area.. i have had every gold detector you could imagine in this spot.. so finding 12 targets was a big deal.. im finding the garrett 24 k a great machine ./smooth threshold & very few hot rocks. area has lots of basalt .. fyi for anyone wondering about the garrett 24 k its a winner . ill be hunting more with it at gold basin in the near future.. ?
  13. Which detector/coil combo makes the best gold (nugget) hunting unit----the Nokta Legend with LG24 & LG15 (9.5X6" & 6" DD coils)----or the Garrett 24K with 10X5" DD & 6" concentric coils?-----Thanks
  14. Sorry guys, been away. So, was chasing and chasing a coil cover for my Garrett 24k. Could not get one anywhere im the world. Ok, they are finally here in Australia. You have got to be kidding me! Buy, pay for shipping im getting one for $68! What an insult! A bit of plastic! This was a cheap one, some wanted here to sell and send one for $80. Utter crap. I have one on the way but seriously this price. Rip off.
  15. took delivery of a new Garret 24 K today purchased from Gerry very quick delivery 2 days I am curious though as to why a brand new Garret 24 K has a battery cover that says Whites on it though LOL, just thought it was odd so I received a whites/Garrets 24K LOL at least the battery cover is black, have a six inch coil coming from Gerry for it also, put it together and charging the included rechargeable batteries as I type really looking forward to getting out with this 24K first impressions what I see so far I like, when you set it down it doesn't fall over, which is a big plus after using the GM1000 will add some more once I get out in the area I detect Thanks Gerry for the great service
  16. Hi guys. I have a 24k Garrett. I do like it. But I have before I got it and still now, read about how it has virtually no knock sensitivity. This is how mine is here in Australia Victoria. I have of course the supplied 10 eliptical and also got from the US the 6" concentric. This is how mine goes. In quiet ground, phase numbers under say 50, it is knock sensitive. Anything the coil touches makes a noise. No way can I run it on the ground. But, above, especially 60 upwards, it has near no knock sensitivity. I can use it amongst bush, shrubs, rocks and get very very minimal knock sensitivity. Also in that type of area I can hit the stem and hear near nothing. But in the lower ground phase areas, below 50, I can hit the stem and hear it ping like a signal. Thats with the 10" DD. But with the Concentric, anywhere is the same! Low numbers, high numbers, no diff. I can run it on the ground, knock stuff and its the same. Has anyone else using this detector found this same thing? It works better with the DD in hot ground and runs better. Red clay in Vic it cruises, even ground that older VLFs couldn't handle this does with the DD. Its like reverse from the older ones. But some places the 6 struggles and I really want to use the DD it pings off on everything even grass! Thoughts, experiences, ideas?
  17. in the Garrett forum snakejim asked: "an you plug in a Bluetooth transmitter into the Garret 24K to allow to use Bluetooth headphones instead of using the supplied corded headphones ???" I have the same question for the Whites 24K? I would assume that the answer is yes, but just thought I would ask any how just in case there was a difference. Thanks to all for your responses.
  18. Called Garrett this morning with the issue I am having on the 24 K cam locks falling apart, Garrett is sending me new stems with cam locks plus extra cam locks, since I told them I was not comfortable having to take the control pod off to replace the S part of the stem on a new detector that the wires run through that part of the stem , they already put the parts in the mail and should be here in a few days, that's pretty good customer service, in my book Seems Garrett is going to be a great company to deal with in warranty service Thank you Garrett, for the outstanding service spoke to Mary there
  19. Can you plug in a Bluetooth transmitter into the Garret 24K to allow to use Bluetooth headphones instead of using the supplied corded headphones ??? Also in the volume setting there is a B1 and a B2 volume setting are those two settings used to boost weaker signals or is there another purpose of the B1 and B2 volume settings just trying to learn the 24 K functions have watched Mr H videos on Garrett site but he never went into the B1 and B2 settings on the volume controls thanks for any and all replies
  20. I've wanted the 24k since Whites released it, it was all too hard to get with Whites and their very limited worldwide distribution, Garrett is making that easier and has a much larger distribution network around the world so the 24k is becoming more accessible now than it was. I had this one sent from the USA to get it quickly as the New Zealand dealer isn't likely to have any until next year, although I think that'll change when they start getting people asking for them ? I was pleased to see it came with rechargeable batteries to get me up and running fast, a good brand too being Duracell AA NiMH. So a few photos.... starting with the box. Whites fans will be pleased to see all the references to Whites on the box. That looks like Steve's scoop to me ? And the box contents The charger and car adapter, lighter socket to USB adapter and also a power socket with various countries that is like a phone charger really, it just converts the AC to DC 5v 2.1 amp USB power, so you can use any USB charging adapter that can output the 2 amp's to charge your batteries. The charger will also charge on a common 1 amp USB port, it's just going to be slower. Very handy as I can charge the batteries in my Caravan or anywhere really with USB charging. The charger can also charge AAA batteries as well as the AA's required for the 24k, quite handy. The 12v alligator clips charger to lighter socket is very good quality too, nice thick cables and inline fuse. Even the little lighter socket to USB is a good quality product, came in a little package showing it's got a 2 year warranty. It's made by Aukey and has 2 x 2.4amp USB ports on it for fast charging. The charger has Micro USB and USB-C support, so you can use your phone charging cable if you've got one of the many Android phones using Micro USB and forget to bring your Garrett supplied cable. This is the batteries inside the mounting box that slides up into the back of the 24k. They're easy enough to put in there. The battery box has a nice Whites logo on it. You'll see I've already used the little plug they supply to cover over the headphone socket, Good to keep the dust and weather out and I'll likely leave it in there forever. The speaker on the 24k is excellent, nice loud volume so I see little need for headphones unless I'm next to a loud river or something detecting. The screen's nice and big, easy on the eye, every icon and bit of writing is oversized, quite good for people that need glasses I would guess. The buttons are nice and easy to use and you'll note they left the Whites logo on there. The coil's nice, I haven't weighed it yet but it feels light as a feather, and the detector is very well balanced with the batteries under the arm cuff, I've never used one of the Whites detectors with the box under the arm cuff, but I'm seeing how nice the balance is with this style detector. Garrett also supplied little feet to stick onto the bottom of the box so you're not resting the plastic box directly onto the ground, quite a good idea as I generally hunt in very rocky areas. One thing I noticed almost straight away as you don't have to put effort in when you put it down to prevent it from falling over, it naturally wants to sit upright. ? And the back of the control pod, again another Whites logo I think they've done a good job paying homage to Whites, while also putting their own touches on it, a very impressive detector. Now for the meat and potatoes, I took it down behind my house to the river and fired it up, I had no idea what I was doing as I'd only used it for a few minutes but I took a couple of videos comparing how it was operating compared to my Equinox with the Coiltek 10x5" Nox Coil. Take these videos with a grain of salt, I've spent 5 minutes using the Garrett 24k but I found it very easy to use and understand, it can just be a turn on and go detector by the look of it. It handled the ground well, and I was very happy with the sensitivity of it, I absolutely can not wait to get the smaller coils for it, especially the concentric coil. I had put the Coiltek 5x10" Nox coil on the Equinox so it was more like comparing apples with apples and tested both detectors on a small #9 lead pellet. The 24k certainly had the edge on air test depth. The ground performance seems excellent too, I love how quiet it runs, the threshold is very smooth, it's also interesting you can run it right next to the Nox with no interference for either detector, both run fine right next to each other. The build quality of the Garrett seems excellent, the shaft nice and solid and nothing feels flimsy. In this video I take both for a little walk around showing how they handle this difficult ground that's covered in hot rocks. The 24k was completely free of knock sensitivity, something I'm going to find very beneficial with the areas I hunt being rocky. Both detectors have their settings maxed out, the Equinox is on 25 gain. Now I've got to get the batteries charged up so I can use it properly, at least they had enough charge in them from the factory for me to take it for a test run. We are in a 2 week Covid lockdown at the moment, we are expected to come out of the worst of it on Wednesday so hopefully I can go find some nuggets with the 24k soon, judging by my first impressions of it I am sure I will be able to achieve that quite quickly.
  21. Has anyone had problem with slight bumps on the 10” coil false firing? I turned the sensitivity down, but it still does it. It seems that the coil wasn’t filled with anything to stabilize the windings or internal wires. With the scuff cover off, the bottom seems hollow and flimsy feeling.
  22. I decided to start another thread. I have an opportunity to purchase a barely used GMX Sport with two coils (still has the original Noni batteries). I also have the Legend. I want to hunt for nuggets around in the streams here in Oregon. What would be the advantages if any, of the GMX over the Legend? Any other comments would be welcome. Thanks! Walt
  23. I use the Gold Kruzer relic and jewelry hunting and it can be a noisy detector. I am thinking the 24k could replace it and the Gold Kruzer could take a break. The 24k is quite an incredible detector. It runs quiet.. The Gold Kruzer can drive me crazy sometimes. I want to know if the 24k would work as a relic hunter. I know it is nugget detector and is extremely sensitive to very tiny targets. With the Gold Kruzer I set it to disc out nails and dig targets above foil when relic hunting to eliminate those tiny targets. I assume the 24k can do this too. Am I right? I like using a nugget detector for relic and gold jewelry hunting plus my other detectors. The Gold Kruzer has incredible separation and I assume the 24k does too. I also use: Equinox 800, Legend, Xp Orx, Gold Kruzer, Vaquaro and Tejon.
  24. I'm sure there are only a few individuals that can answer the question in the topic header with technical detail (which I'm very interested in), but I'm also interested in the observations of those that have owned both the White's 24K and the Garrett 24K
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