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  1. From Gold Coast Treasure Hunters “This chart shows the VDI (sometimes called TID, for Target ID) numbers for over 50 gold rings, which Bill pushed into a thick cardboard sheet. White’s VDIs are down the left, Minelab down the right. Weight in grams is across the bottom. Notice the nickel’s position in the center of the chart.” Bill Watson's Gold Ring VDI Chart The photo almost perfectly illustrates a study Fisher did decades ago on the distribution of rings and target ID. There are two distinct clusters, with a soft gap in the middle. In a nutshell, womens rings, often high value and with gems, fall below nickel and solidly in the foil range. Mens rings cluster above nickel in the tabs to screw cap range. The nickel range itself is actually weak on rings, as falling between the two classes in size. Fisher used this information specifically to design the CZ series and decide how to lay out the target id tones and bins. They tested 255 rings for the CZ-70 and came up with some interesting percentages. I have seen these percentages reflected in the field. 2% of the rings were in the copper penny, dime, quarter range. 4% of the rings were in the zinc penny/screw cap range 49% of the rings were in the "pull tab" range above U.S. nickel 10% of the rings were in the nickel range (emphasis added) 36% of the rings were in the foil range below nickel 0% of the rings were in the iron range If you stick with the 49% tab and 36% foil range, you will get 85% of the goods, especially the high value stuff, while missing a large percentage of "trash", and that in this case also means coins. I do consider digging coins a waste of time, especially at depth while fighting heavy surf. I have mentioned the Fisher CZ detectors. Rumor has it that CZ stood for "Coin Zapper". The CZ detector are unique in having a shuffled discrimination scale that puts nickels up high with the other coins. Little attention is paid to the fact they also lumped the bulk of the ring zones together, while intentionally excluding the ring weak nickel range. In addition to visual target identification, the original CZ has 3-tone, audio target ID. A low tone is for iron, a medium tone Is for pull tabs and foil and a high tone is for coins, including nickels. An overload signal, which sounds like a telephone, alerts you to large, shallow targets that are usually (but not always!) trash. The newer CZ-3D added a fourth tone, and was further refined as a coin detector, somewhat messing with the originals better jewelry hunting aspects. I think the older models, including the CZ-20/21 are actually better jewelry detectors. Basically with a older CZ, low tone is iron, medium tone the ring range, and high tone the coin range. The newest model, the CZ-3D adds a fourth tone to the scheme designed to capture old coins in the zinc penny range, but for jewelry detecting the original CZ scheme is pretty simple and ingenious. Fisher also offers this modified tone scheme in the F75 models. The good news is with many newer detectors that have custom tone id ranges, so you can duplicate this setup yourself. The main thing is to be aware, no matter what detector you are using, or where the possible ring "hot spots" are on the VDI scale depending on where you are hunting. From Fisher CZ-70 Pro Owners Manual, page 24 (tones added): More detailed information on gold and target id, various brands and models
  2. Everything on the digger came out of the same hole while detecting on a local football field today. The Deus II somehow detected the chain, which I thought was gold at first. The signal was strange, but it was mixed with enough high tones to get me to dig. The chain was spread out in a straight line in the soil, so that may have been the reason it sounded good enough to dig. I have been over this area before with the Equinox 15" coil.
  3. Well, I finally did it, persistence paid off and I found not only my first silver ring with the XP Deus 2 yesterday in a park, but also a gold ring, my first in 24 years! I've had the Deus 2 with 9in. coil now for nearly 4 weeks and I've put in around 40 hours time using it primarily in park settings. I've been digging a lot of trash since its been my goal since last fall hunting with my ML Equinox 800 and 10x5 Coiltek coil to score some turf gold. I find plenty of nuggets detecting in the California Sierra Nevada mountains, so a "turf gold" goal was to give myself a real gold challenge. Since location matters, I targeted a place yesterday where people picnic and sunbathe, knowing chances for lost jewelry would be higher. I tried program 3, full tones briefly, but the audio is just to "weak" and muffled in my super hot soil, at least using software v0.6 right now. Back to my preferred P4, or "fast" program with its square, pitch audio. The only change was sensitivity 90 since I was focusing on quickly digging more shallow signals. I find P4, fast really helps to liven up mid conductor targets and make them stand out and say: "dig me!". After about 2.5 hours I had a "86" ID# and since I dig most all zinc cents, I didn't hesitate and dug up this one, or so I thought. It turned out to be a tiny, thin ladies .925 silver ring, the first with the Deus 2. I really slowed down and started to dig carefully and about 20 minutes later, I broke my 24-year-long turf gold drought and popped out an absolutely tiny 14kt ladies gold ring! It read as "36-38" ID#, so directly in the foil range. I'd been digging a lot more foil with the Deus. I have started to notice when the generally "wimpy" sounding foil gives a louder signal when balled up for example and have been digging more signals like that. Turned out this "foil" was gold this time. Eureka, I'd done it! This tiny gold band (.61 grams) rings up at "39" ID# above ground, so if you are after micro gold with the Deus 2, it is probably a good idea to dig targets that register in the 30's. Best of luck to you fellow turf warriors going for the gold. Battling turf trash isn't easy!
  4. Was able to get out yesterday and hunt a couple of different rivers. I had to pay my dues today though. I dug a lot of trash for several keepers. First place I dug up a lot of lead and a silver toe ring. On the way home from the first stop, I hit a crossing and was able to come across a 14k wedding band and a pet crematory tag which is a first for me.
  5. I am curious as to which machine you prefer for inland gold jewelry hunting and why. Always like learning about other peoples machines and methods. Thank you.
  6. April was a fair month for me. I was able to get access to a private boarding school which operated from 1906 until 1988 and sat on 50 acres. While it wouldn't have seen lots of commerce, and while jewelry wasn't part of the environment, I still had high hopes. I know the student body was quite small until the 20s. In the end, I managed 5 silver dimes, 4 war nickels, a buff, and 20+ wheat pennies. Also found quite a lot of clad (and very few zincolns - yeah!). Lots of keys from the old dorms. It was better than most locations I hunt, and I'm sure still has a few more out there. It became clear that when new facilities were built in the 50s and 60s, lots of dirt was moved around an much of the original turf has been buried under a foot or more of fill. You could easily tell original ground from the fill when cutting plugs. At the start of May, I spent one entire day working tot lots in schools I'd ignored since the start of the pandemic. Found several nice gold items, one of which I have hopes of returning. Also found a small mountain of bling and clad. I used a mix of my Deus with the 9" X35 coil and a derivation of the hot program, and my V3i with the 10" DD coil and my custom deep program at the old school. The class ring was found with my MX Sport and 7"DD. It was a very wet April (and now May) out West. Hoping to get some warmth soon! Zincoln
  7. Theres a lot of them out there. Different manufacturers have at least one Gold machine. A new analog machine recently debuted. So , I'm thinking some are buying these to use on the Beach and Park hunting. All these machines can't just be hunted in and around the Old Gold fields, can they? So I would think that these machines used in our parks and are set go find small gold would become Overwhelmed with all the small pieces of Aluminum. And such. I got a couple sensitive machines (vlf) that in order to hunt I got to discriminate these pieces out. So what I'm trying to ask is, why buy them for Park and Beach hunting ?
  8. An Easter egg hunt for the kiddies along a tropical beach might sound like great family fun, but it's my worst nightmare come true.. Not that I begrudge the kiddies their fun, just go have it somewhere else (or don't unwrap your eggs and eat them the moment you find them).. For weeks now I've been digging foil.. Every time I get my hopes up it's a gold ring.. It sounds good and the target ID doesn't jump about too much.. It's deep enough for a ring to have worked its way down into the sand over the weekend.. Even when I start digging I don't give up hope.. Maybe it's a small ring a lot shallower than I thought.. Oh, it's out of the hole already, the thing really is tiny.. Every time I go through this process only to find another bit of foil.. It's beyond heart breaking.. Even underwater you'd think that wave action, tides and currents would carry light foil pieces far away.. They don't.. There's a never ending supply of foil on land.. Maybe metal detector manufactures should concentrate less on iron filters and more on aluminium filters (if that's even possible without filtering out gold signals).. I'm sure that even in the bush or the desert, small pieces of foil can be a nightmare..
  9. I received the 11" Deus II on Tuesday, and I have used it about 6 hours so far. We are slowly becoming friends. Still trying to figure out the sounds and TID of targets. I have not done any update yet. At the local ball field again today with high hopes of gold. I dug a good amount of aluminum, so there is less for next time. The silver ring was likely passed over by the 15x12" Equinox coil in the past, but the bracelet was a recent drop. Ring was about an 88 and bracelet was a 52.
  10. Went out for another two hours this morning with the Equinox and the 10x5 coil. I went to another BB court that has some grass in the inside of the fence enclosure. While there were some coins close up to the chain link fence, the 10K football helmet (which I though was junk at the time) and the daughter pendant were in the small dried oak leaves behind one of the hoops and the shallow dirt under the front of a bench, respectively. Park 1, 7 recovery speed, 17 sensitivity, all metal, 50 tones
  11. Out for two hours this morning with the Equinox and the 10x5 coil trying to uncover what is missed by others who use lesser machines and bigger coils. I concentrated around a BB court right up close to the fence. The cobra was found away from the fence in a grassy area in the shade. If you want to get close to fences, get this coil. I took a pic of one target that was about 2 inches from the fence with the chain link fence bowed out over the target. The coil had less issues getting that close to the fence than the Garrett pinpointer. The bracelet was found in the mulch on the playground area. Most of the change was found up tight to the court. Park 1, 7 recovery speed, 15 sensitivity, all metal, 50 tones
  12. A well dressed business lady walked into J.W.'s Prospector's Supplies in Prescott Valley one afternoon carrying a metal detector, and laid in on the counter. She seemed to be on the verge of tears. Kevin Hoagland the store manager, said, "How did it go" "Not well", she said. The lady had rented the detector the day before and left a sizable deposit for it, but said she couldn't get it to work. She had rented it to search for a diamond studded gold earring in the shape of a horseshoe that she had lost when she was bucked off her horse near the stables close to her home in Chino Valley. It was her favorite set of earrings, worth a few hundred dollars, and it had been a gift from a special person on a special occasion, so it was the sentimental value that bothered her most about the loss. She was genuinely distressed and sad about losing the item, and seemed to blame herself because she couldn't stay on her horse when he started to buck! Kevin said he was sorry that she was unable to get the detector to work, and she quickly acknowledged that it wasn't the machine's fault, and that she understood she was inexperienced in operating a metal detector. Kevin told her not to worry about the rental fee, he wasn't going to charge her anything, and he expressed sympathy for her loss, and for her difficulty with the detector. Kevin and I looked at each other and being on the same wavelength, shared a knowing smile as I piped up and offered to help the lady search for her lost earring the following day if she would like the help. She was elated at the offer and an appointment was made to meet the following morning at the horse stables. Upon arrival, I was more than a little concerned about what I saw. The trail that she had been riding on when bucked off, was being shared by off road ATV vehicles that had massively churned up the sandy terrain. At that moment, I wouldn't have given a plug nickel for my chances of finding an earring as small as a dime in the torn up sand heap, as evidenced by the deep ATV tire tracks that I was looking at. I asked her to show me the area where she thought she had been bucked off and after walking several yards and looking around a bit, she said, "I think around here somewhere". I asked to see the remaining ear ring so I could place it on the ground and hear what it sounded like in my ear phones. I took the ear ring from her, leaned down and started to place it on the ground but decided against it. Instead, I said, "Hold out your hand" I dropped the two earrings in her hand which surprised her, as much as I had been surprised when I saw her lost earring right in front of us on top of the ground in plain sight! She was overjoyed at getting her earring back and offered to pay me for the service, which of course, I declined. As it so happened, she was a professional masseuse, and she offered me a "treatment" which I also graciously declined. She then asked if I had anything against hugs?? Heck, call me an opportunist if you want to, but after all the difficulty and disappointment she'd been through? I just didn't have the heart to turn her down . . .
  13. After the rain passed this morning, I got out this afternoon for a couple hours to the local football field. The third solid signal in, using the 5x10 with the Equinox along the chain link fence, turned out to be a crispy necklace about an inch down that had three pendants on it. After seeing two that had rusted, the hope for number three was not high. After rubbing a bit, I got my phone out to zoom in on the top of the hanger to check for hallmarks. Surprise, 14K! The signal was a 16-17 with jumpy tones as well. About an hour later came a strong 9. Expecting aluminum, I was elated to find the second possible gold of the day! When I got home, I noticed the resizer on the ring and that there was gold that was coming off in a strip. My heart sank. But then, I noticed the gold was coming from the resizer. My heart was reinflated! Park 1, all metal, 7 recovery, 17 sensitivity, manual ground balance
  14. Went out to the local football field for about an hour and a half. I was running the Equinox with the 5x10 and focusing on lower tones while running in Park 1, 4 recovery, all metal, and 22 sensitivity. It rang in a strong 7-8 and was down under a small root about 4-5 inches down just a little over a foot away from the fence. Looks to be 14K. Still plenty of pull tabs left for the future!
  15. Spotted this feel good story on ABC News this morning.. About a beach and scuba detectorist in the NSW Great Lakes region who reunites people with lost rings.. A great bloke! 😃 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-23/passionate-metal-detectorist-reunites-hundreds-of/13767142
  16. It's weird how your luck can change week by week.. Last week started off great with a gold ring and finished even greater with a diamond bracelet.. But so far this week it's been nothing at all.. except a 5 cent piece and a load of bottle tops, pull-tabs and aluminium foil etc.. But this is not what makes it weird, the weird thing is that this week comes at the end of the school holidays and a long-weekend public holiday.. It's been a long time since there's been so many people on the island, you couldn't wish for a bigger crowd.. And yet, nothing.. 😬
  17. I casually found this video, looking for other frequency related things, but I found even more interesting this one, cause of the latest discussion on salt falsing and tiny, thin, micro or call it like You want but gold. I'm a scuba diver, so I have specific needs, but all of You beach hunters in saltwater can add obviously your point of view. So, fact N.1, the Orx and the Deus 1 are involved in this test and seems pretty clear that not having available multiple different tones, the Emi is terribly in a mix of signals and among those, the ring can be easily missed and misunderstood without fault. I think on the Deus2 in the saltwater can be almost the same thing...Especially running frequencies over 20 Khz. Fact N.2, with a different tone set, the saltwater falsing can be in someway identified with a specific tone if not so variable on the TID range....I don't want to affirm this, maybe to ask is the right way.... I don't know if I'm seeing an open window for the gold fever or just a dream...So feel free to write any thought You may have..
  18. Something pleasant to look at on these chilly days of January. 42 Gold rings ..3 misc Golds..268 grams total.. 188 Silvers..mostly coins, Class rings pushed the weight this year and I did find one small gold chain but only because it had a pendent on it....Excalibur found most of the treasures but the AQ came on strong the last month. Missed hunting 6 months ....Blessed to be alive !! ........Hoping to see the water more in 2022. Come on Spring.. Good Luck to everyone and Be safe.. Couple golds missing / family.
  19. This has been said many times, but there is nothing like seeing it. I can’t tell the difference between those particular two, in any orientation, either by sound or ID (on Vanquish 440). Are there any tricks of the trade to increase the chance of differentiating the right-size gold ring from a modern beer can pull tab?
  20. I casually found this video and the results are actually confusing me...A lot🤐. Nothing to say for most of the programs but look what a difference on gold signals when in diving/beach and beach sens 😬. Not to mention the higher vdi reading (twice) when in mono 17Khz... Please, can someone explain what I'm seeing?
  21. Here's a few pics of last years finds. All were found in public places, mainly parks in Texas. I did hunt 1 school and 1 baseball field. My specialty is, hard hit, given up on places. I love the challenge of finding what was left behind. I use the Nox 800 and have it set up to cherry pick copper and silver 90% of the time. If I get into a really old place or around water, I'll open it up a bit. I use my tones as a discrimination , I run wide open . Total silver coin take was 117 and a 287 wheaties, total silver finds 144. Not sure how much clad I found, I cashed it in 3 different times during the year. I'm going on my 4th year with the Nox and have done very well relic, coin and water hunting during that time. Here's my settings. Park 1 Iron Bias F2-0 Ground balance 0 Recovery speed 3 2 tones... pitch on -9 to 17 at 3 from 18 and up at 25 Tone break at 18, unless in older places or around water. No discrimination Sensitivity as high as the site allows. Coil scrubbing the ground and a slow sweep. I know what a lot of people are thinking, just think of all the stuff you left behind. I was having to drive 1 to 2 hours one way to get to some of these places. I have to maximize my time because of the time factor.
  22. Today I´m preparing for tomorrow dive in my usual and devastated gulf spot... After the shaft accident with the new toy the last week, Ive been captured by a stupid doubt... What about the use of a single frequency on the Ctx ? I know, this thing isn´t possible due to the kind of machine with an FBS range continuously at work, but somewhere I found a text related to the noise cancel channel and the different frequency in use... So In these years, I think the succesful use of a frequency among 15 and 20 Khz in salty environment it is not a secret anymore but what about this particular machine stated at 1 to 100Khz? So tomorrow morning I want to try all of the 11 channels and manual settings for sensitivity and noise cancel, adding the ground/coin separation that for sure is the more stable giving a less jumpy target ID... Feel free to laugh at this post but I feel like a child again...
  23. So today's hunt was not at a beach, but at a place that I should have been hunting all along! I thought I missed my opportunity (kind of did) to hunt a very old drained pond. I could not find a place to park, so I kept putting it off. That was in the fall of 2020. They said the dam repairs would be done by January 2021, so I forgot all about it. Last week, I have a client that needed a scrap electronics recycling pick up, so I drove to his new house which just happens to abut the pond. Now this pond is HUGE and a lot of people have been pounding it for a year (at least 30 people that I heard of. Many nice coins and rings have come out of there, including Seated coins. Oh well. So I asked if I could park in his yard and go down to the pond and he said - anytime. Now because it has been dry for over a year, except with a small river flowing down the middle, lots of vegetation has sprung up and makes it impossible to hunt. It's very boggy in about 90% of the pond now. The side I am on is not the popular side that has been used for a couple of centuries, but I figured I would start there and maybe return some other time. Also being cold, some of the desirable area froze solid. I brought the Equinox and the GPX 5000 for this hunt, and decided on the GPX even though I would be in areas with a lot of iron ( I assumed). I was amazed that the iron rejected extremely well and most of the iron I dug was out of curiosity. This was a 4 hour hunt and I had to dumb the GPX down sensitivity wise in order to not go nuts. Targets were everywhere. This was going to be a low conductor hunt because of all the iron, as my primary goal was finding gold! I knew there would be a lot of lead, but I did not take into account the sheer number of small pieces of aluminum that I would encounter. I worked non stop and got a lesson on trashy pond hunting. I'm glad I did it and glad that I found a little bit of gold, silver and even a very crumbling Indian cent. Man o man, do humans pollute!!!! 🤬 I will be back if the weather doesn't freeze over everything soon. I'm glad I had a chance to detect it after all. 🙂
  24. Saw gigmaster mentioning this again and got curious.... ?? (I found a friend's lost engagement ring once , a good day on the hunt .outside in the winter snow+ice. LOL but she sure was happy !! and yes I was using that old Micronta.) So I started to check it out....It seems like a legit operation... (The fee for a listing is $65 a year) https://theringfinders.com Saw a couple of mentions here on a search . Anybody actually a member or have other experience with ringfinders ? Other comments ?
  25. Last week I hunted the wet sand of some local beaches for the first time in about a month. I wanted to go earlier in the month but just had too many other things going on. When I got to the beach I was surprised to see that a lot of beach erosion had taken place and was afraid that I was too late to take advantage. Sure enough, targets were few and far between below most of the cuts but I did find 2 areas where I was making some deeper finds with some regularity. I was finding more trash than I expected with the TDI and hunting in a steady rain which tired me out sooner than usual. I also think I was out of shape from not hunting much the previous month. I did manage to find a few silver rings and silver earring before taking a break to warm up with some hot soup for lunch. I decided to swap detectors because of the trash and continued where I left off with my Excalibur. The very first signal I got in "all metal" rang out in a solid mid-tone when I switched to "discriminate". I scooped out some wet sand and kicked it off to the side and saw a quarter-sized disc with that unmistakable yellow gold color laying on top of the mound! (7.5 grams of 14K) I didn't make nearly as many good finds in 2021 as I did the year before but Mother Nature had a lot to do with that. I am still grateful for the little treasure I did find and for the health, time and resources to be able to enjoy this hobby of ours. Wishing you all the best in 2022!
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