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  1. i HAVE been using the Hot program in full tones, with the HF coil and 28khz , I have been amazed at how good it is at telling iron from non iron , and tells me more about the iron in the ground , like is it round iron flat iron and really good at telling me how big the iron is . I took it to iron hill and its finding 22 slugs, shot shels, brass, right now i would have to say its my favorite, i do check it with the deep , program. the deep seems like the Equnox to me prone to false on cut nails. but so far the hot has been hot and good and hot
  2. Ok so according to the manual of he deus with the white HF coil the target ID normalization is fixed on and supposedly it will not give you the option of turning it off. So yesterday in my test bed on my zinc penny I noticed in 14 khz the ID was 72 to 76. When I bumped over to another frequency of 31 khz and went back over the zinc penny the ID jumped about 10 segments to 86-88. I thought the id Norm was supposed to be fixed on the HF coils???? Am I doing something wrong here?
  3. I am not talking about coin deep but i Heard that the x35 coils have a boost mode in the 3.7Khz to 4.4khz does it work on the ORX ? and if so how is it ?
  4. Because you will like it so much you will want the Deus, I keep getting amazed at the ORX in that it can go over hunted out sites and start finding things, in my experiance this is the best detector i have ever used . and rather than not buying the regular Deus its just the contrary i did buy the Deus and am liking them both i stopped at the 30,s hunted out shack and in 15 minuts found the shown targets , and I am like scratching my head , Dindint i got over this very spot ? what the ?"" if i sell the orx its not because i dont like it its becuase i need money but i had a choice to bring the orx or the regular deus . i chose the ORX because i have more experiance with it and am new to the big Deus . but i am really impressed with them both
  5. Today i did some testing with the ORX and the HF 9" coil in 13.3 KHZ on an 8" dime a 6" dime and a 7" penny in ground , and experimented and kept changing things and observing and found i got the best hit on the targets at coin fast with a reaction of 2.5, and 13.3 KHZ 80 gain, the 80 gain was because higher in this mineralized sand chokes the signal well after all that testing i got up to the hill of many nails and started swinging, i dug several flat irons and cut nails , but then i got a nice two way signal and dug down a solid 7" and up comes a VF 1882 indian head penny . the soil hear is kind to copper but i was just thrilled the ORX really came thru even as a coin hunter in fact this is the 1st coin off this hill with any detector
  6. Just got the HF 9 so i took it out for its 1st run on the hill of nails , this has been pounded till nothing sounds off but this combo maniged to pull two targets out in about 10 Minutes and the 1st one had 3 nails in the hole . The rivit washer really suprized me becuase it came in so clear in the one spot i always detect. I can only say this thing really can find the leftovers that nothing els can find Now i dug a few false cut nails but it was giving off the iron sound mixed in . but that ting you see that was a solid 14" deep and it was making a sound like a silver coin makes and repeatable . i was about to stop digging because i knew no silver coin would be that deep as 7" is about max for this 54KHZ if you really listen , but then i hit the ring . not a bad coil at all
  7. Working with the ORX in Gold 1 . Using 27.6 KHZ and came up with a setting that hears the Nickle without cracking but gives the iron away . as iron . The Reactivity is on 2.5, the IAR on 3 and sens on 90, all targets buried at 5" --NO.1 Nickel, NO.2 rusty bottle cap, NO .3 flat iron about the size of a U,S quarter, NO .4 a bent cut nail.
  8. Took the ORX out in the gravle road after it rained. wanted to try my copper nugget setting and look for copper . I have found copper nuggets in this gravle before but was using the Racer in all metal , and i was digging alot of iron. the 1st picture is of the nuggets i found in the past in this road, the one went thru the crusher and got made square, you can see another still in the rock , (looks like green stone) any way today i used the copper setting 10.5Khz 85 gain ,2.5 reaction. and 3 on the I.A.R- and i was going along and on every iron target it would break or give a low . one suface bottle cap gave its low off the edge and a deeper one gave a break, i was pretty much sure it was iron so i dug it and it was a rusty bottle cap . but then came this short consistant rather quite signal , with no breaking so started digging down in the hard gravle and at 5" a copper penny , I was really amazed the setting was working , and some time later another soft short signal and down at 6" up comes a small piece of copper pipe, so i was happy with the findings I dug or was fooled by no iron but the copper was Identifiable , But i did find a strip of aluminum , but thats O,K as long as it was not iron .BTW i was using the 9" x 35 coil
  9. Hey guys. I guess there a ton of you who gold prospect here on this forum. But for those who coin shoot in parks and around old houses I made a video yesterday on how to deal with steel bottle caps with the ORX. I am using the HF coil. But you can get similar results with the X35 and your highest frequency offset. Anyways here it is and I hope some one can get something out of it.
  10. Hear in Minnesota we have a gravle road, and it has copper nuggets in it and agates,so i have been looking for them with my detectors, I figured the TDI would be great at this but found out its not because the setting that are good for silver are good for iron , but i nver thousght the ORX would actually exell at this in Gold 1 I have a test garden of a 6 targets all buried at 6" deep the 1st is a 14 k ring , then a smashed aluminum bottle cap , then a cladd quarter, then a fresh bottle cap , and last a 1.5"x1.5" barrel strap flat iron now in disc its hard to tell the difrence between the barrel strap and the silver quarter , very hard its the one target that most mimics the quarter . so i put the machine in Gold 1 and started playing around with the settings and this is what works so far the best 11-12khz reactivity of 2.5 and I.A.R at 4 its able to break on the barrel strap iron and the bottle cap and not on the quarter or the smashed aluminum bottle cap . even on the shallow bottle cap on the surface if the coil is on the edge it will give a low signal , the 14 k ring sorry to say starts sounding like a badd target . but hay its working on the quarter good . so i took it to the gravle road where i have two buried copper nugets and a 6" dime and a bottle cap and i used the same setting exept had to lower the IAR setting to 3 and got good results again , all the copper came thru with an unbroken signal , but the bottle cap and iron was breaking , so its kinda funny the Gold mode is also a high conductor mode and good at it
  11. took the ORX to cut nail hill , and if it didnt suprize me . it found a Old rimfire shell casing amongst the iron that the Equinox missed with the 6" coil i was using coin deep and got a nice mid tone amognst the iron and the shell came up so it really has proved itself , and i dont even know how to use it yet . the build quality is very good , yes its light , it could not get my 10" deep dime in any frequincy but it handled the 8" dime with a diggable signal no VDI the 6" dime got VDI, my dirt has some iron in it but i think i have alot to learn , but it really does do good in the nails , Kinda like it
  12. I like this setting it gets good depth on my silver dimes and still does good on nickles and is exelent on seperation coin fast 8.1Khz disc at 4.5 , Iron volume on 2.5 sweep speed, 9" x35 coil
  13. Just ordered a new ORX with the X 35 coil , box comes says on outside all parts inside, I open it up and everything is in but the battery and cord that goes into the lower shaft. I see batterys for sale but no one sells the cord that you have to string thrue that ataches to the battery. what to do
  14. I did a little trading and have an orx coming with the x35 coil. I picked this up to partner with the Equinox 800.
  15. I went hunting this evening with a friend who was using his Equinox while I was trying out the orx. Yikes!! The orx doesn't like being near the Equinox at all. Is there something I can do besides turn my sensitivity down. That seemed to work but I was hoping there was another option. Thanks!
  16. So, I have an area in the Colorado Rockies that I am trying to successfully detect with the GMT 24K. The main issue here is tons of magnetite and I mean tons. Imagine a regular sized plastic sandwich bag with a 2" thick sandwich sized amount of dirt inside it instead of a sandwich. I brought a couple of bags full of dirt like this home from an area that appears to be a drainage ditch that was at the end of a sluice run in a hydraulicked area. I got almost 1 cup full of varying from speck to marble sized magnetite by panning out that bag of dirt, so about 1/3 of the dirt was magnetite. So far, I have detected this long trench with a GMT 24k and an XP ORX with 9"HF coil. The 24K shows 8 segments of mineralization and a phase reading of 85 in Ground Scan mode. The ORX ground balances at 88 with the mineralization bar full. The GMT 24k overloads at sensitivity 4, VSAT maximum in VCO audio and no iron cancel. The ORX does not overload but I have to constantly ground balance, with sensitivy on 70, reactivity on 2.5 and Disc IAR 2, frequency 50. Getting any kind of zip zip signal in this sea of double beep boings is proving difficult. As I said, I brought some dirt home to test. I figured with all of the advanced settings on the GMT 24K I should be able to find something that works. I took one of the bags outside and laid it flat on a plastic 24"x12" Igloo cooler. With the 24K, 6.5" concentric or 10X5" DD coils in VCO Zip audio mode, sensitivity 3, VSAT maximum, threshold 2, XGB auto, I got various amounts of ground noise and plenty of medium to loud double beep boings while bobbing the coil or swinging over the bag. Just what I expected. If I ground balanced and locked XGB when pumping the coil it almost silenced the magnetite and I could swing over the bag with much quieter, little responses but still clearly magnetite boings. If I then pressed the Iron Cancel button (iron cancel discrimination was set on the numeral 2 not 2 bars so no bars were showing) the magnetite was virtually silent. I switched to beep audio and still virtually silent with just a faint threshold response, meaning that instead of a high tone or low tone there was a faint, medium tone, 2 way threshold target tone apart from the reference threshold, I guess. I took a .2 gram flat nugget and placed it under the corner of the bag of dirt and reset the settings to what I started with, VCO zip tone, XGB auto, no Iron Cancel and carefully ground scanned over the area of the bag that the nugget was not under to let the XGB system reset. Sweeping the nugget a few times I got mostly boing magnetite signals with a very faint hard to distinguish zip sound. I pressed Iron Cancel (still set on number 2, also tried 1 with the same result, no disc bars showing) and got virtually nothing, with no zip zip responses of any kind. I locked the quietest XGB setting, with the lock button, no Iron Cancel and VCO audio. I got a nice zip zip with a little magnetite boing. I pressed Iron Cancel and literally got no signal of any kind, complete silence during sweeps. I thought WTH, and pressed the beep mode button for high and low tone pitch audio. I did not get a high tone or a low tone but I did get a very clear 2 way medium tone threshold response with a very quiet background except for the actual threshold tone.............? I removed the nugget and swept over the bag again with the same settings and got only a very faint medium pitched threshold?? tone occasional response. So, hunting this area in VCO audio, XGB locked, Iron Cancel off, sens. on 3, VSAT maxed, might work but I would be digging a lot of magnetite. Hunting in Beep mode with Iron Cancel On and listening for that medium whatever it is tone might work too.......? There is no mention of this medium toned, what I am calling threshold tone response in the manual anywhere. I used to hear something like this on my MX5 using multi tone modes with the threshold set on low when I encountered a target that was just past the range of normal detection audio or numerical target ID detection. The MX5 let me know something was there. I am not sure what this tone is called or if it is the same thing that is happening on the 24K. Personally I like it if I can depend on it........... Any comments would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I ran the ORX and Equinox over the same target scenario. The ORX in Gold 1 with a little tweaking could hit the nugget but only with sensitivity turned way down (60 -70) in order to quiet the magnetite responses down enough to hear the target. Frequency 50 kHz, GB 88, Sensitivity 60 to 70, Reactivity 2.5 Disc IAR 1 or 2, Iron Volume off, Threshold 4, tons of ground balancing required just to hear a clear zip, zip. The Equinox 800, 6" coil Gold 1 multi, -9 rejected, GB 1, sensitivity 15, threshold 10, recovery speed 4 to 6, FE 0, had no problem giving a beautiful zip, zip on the .2 gram nugget with minimal ground noise............Hum! Jeff
  17. Does anyone know if there is a numbers to target vdi chart anywhere for the xp orx? I test mine with different targets but would like to see a chart confirming numbers.
  18. Long time Deus user, but I am pretty convinced XP did something to juice Gold Mode on Orx vs. Deus' Gold Field and it is my preferred mode for relic hunting, recently. I like the 9" HF coil and hunt at 14 or 30 khz, typically. Have not had problems hitting all kinds of silver, brass, and lead in moderately to high mineralized soil at various depths and junk target densities. The one touch instant GB grab and pop up TID and Iron Probability meters enhance the user interface over Deus too. ORX finds over the last couple months pictured below:
  19. I find myself also using the Orx more and more. I'm finding it pretty equal with the Equinox. The Orx is better hunting gold jewelry in Gold modes. Gold Kruzer 2nd for gold jewelry. Equinox 3rd. It doesn't false either. Better in iron. It's becoming my main detector. Detectors I have: Equinox 800 w/ 11" and 6" coils XP Orx w/ 9" hf coil Gold Kruzer w/ 9.5x5.5 concentric, 9.5x5 dd, 4x7.5 dd coils Lobo STmodded w/ 8" and 5.75" concentric coils
  20. Getting to know your metaldetector and its features can be very demanding. This video explains how to quickly adapt the XP ORX Gold program for inland use along with other metal detecting top tips.
  21. XP DEUS / XP ORX Search Coil Chart Low Frequency (LF) Search Coils 4, 8, 12, 18 kHz 9" round, 11" round, 13" x 11" (discontinued September 2018) XP DEUS Only X35 Search Coils 4, 8 ,12 ,18, 25 kHz 9" round, 11" round, 13" x 11" XP DEUS and XP ORX High Frequency (HF) Search Coils 9" round 15, 30, 50 kHz and 10" x 5" 15, 30, 80 kHz XP DEUS and XP ORX
  22. Shot a video of a small nugget I found yesterday using the XP ORX in Carefree Arizon...... If anyone is interested :
  23. I was invited back to one of my favorite relic sites in Pennsylvania for a couple of visits, recently. Not only is the site productive but you also never know what just might turn up there. There have been plates and buttons galore, minie and round balls of various types and calibers, other brass uniform and equipment accouterments, jewelry, and other relics . Not to mention silver and gold coins from the 1700's to the 20th century, including a couple of large coin caches. This site appears to have been a CW picket post and/or bivouac area. It also appears to be a center of commerce based on the number of early 19th century coinage encountered. I have had success with both the Equinox and my Deus. This site, unsurprisingly, is becoming more and more stingy and I have found that I am just more confident with the Deus here, lately, for some reason. Can't explain it from a detector performance standpoint, because the Equinox has killed it here before. The Deus in gold field or with pitch tones in discrimination mode just seems to give me a better "view" of the ground and with lots of junk iron, hot rocks, modern trash, and aluminum slag from a previous tractor engine explosion I need the instant feedback the signal modulate gives in terms of signal strength and target footprint. The Equinox lacks this "feel" with its relatively un-modulated tones and requires the extra step of shifting into pinpoint mode to trace a target footprint to sift through large iron targets and large chunks of slag or aluminum cans. The Equinox can obviously get it done here, but I am going with the hot hand, and that is XP for now.. On my second trip there this fall, I focused on using my ORX exclusively, which I got as a backup to the Deus and really wanted to see if it could hold its own with the Deus despite some of it's feature limitations vs. the Deus. The ORX has four built in programs vs. the 11 that are built into the Deus, though many of the Deus programs are just variations on the same theme with different settings pre-programmed in. The Deus and ORX basically have just two modes. Discrimination mode and Gold Field(Deus)/Gold (ORX) mode. The gold mode on Deus/ORX are essentially identical in terms of settings. Gold mode emulates an all metal setup with VCO pitch based audio that changes in intensity and pitch depending on the strength of the target signal - a visual target ID is used for dig decisions. Gold Field/Gold mode allows you to set a threshold tone and allows you vary recovery speed (reactivity) and you can cut in some limited iron audio reject which tends to break up the audio signal in the presence of iron. I usually just keep it off because in mineralized soil, everything gets broken up so it is pretty useless. You can use target ID to determine probable iron and the ORX has a useful "iron probablity" bargraph and pop up, large font target ID display which is absent on the Deus. A couple of ORX user interface enhancements I would like to see in a future Deus implementation. The discrimination or "coin modes" as they are called on the ORX are more traditional iron discrimiantion based tone and visual ID modes. On ORX the tones are fixed at 3 tones (one of those being iron audio which can be switched on even when using discrimiantion, similar to the Deus). The Deus meanwhile, has a myriad of tone customization options (1, 2, 3, 5, and full tones) with fully customizable breakpoints and tone pitch selections. The Deus also provides more adjustability on recovery speed and related filters such as the silencer which is sort of like iron bias on the Equinox. Other than those differences, the ORX raw performance is basically identical to the Deus. I decided to put that to the test and the results were not really surprising. It delivered. What did surprise me was how much I liked using it vs. the Deus. Yes it has limitations on settings but for 90% of the situations I would encounter, it would hold its own just fine. Below are some of the finds recovered recently at the site. Deus finds are mostly to the left, ORX finds are mostly to the right including the Mexican 1850 1/2 Reale. How it found it's way all the way to PA only to be lost for perhaps 150+ years, is a great mystery to be pondered. In addition to the coin, ,various Eagle buttons and button backs, a few flat buttons, a fancy gold plated button with dimpled design, a sword hanger clip, a very old religious cross pendant, period lead bullets, and some miscellaneous pieces of brass and lead were recovered. I can see myself keeping the ORX in the truck as my general purpose grab and go machine for moment's notice detecting. Enjoy.
  24. Took the ORX to 9,200 feet in the Colorado mountains today. It did really well in a lot of iron, tin, lead, brass, along with ironstone and gneiss/schist hot rocks. One 2.5 grain nugget/flake and a nice 1.5 gram specie. Gold 1 worked really well with frequency at 54 kHz, IAR 2, reactivity 2, iron volume on, sensitivity 90, threshold 10, 9" HF coil. The 1.5 gram specie was 6" deep with a nail and ironstone hot rock within 2 " radius. I could still hear the gold loud and clear. The 2.5 grain was 3" deep. The lead bullet and button back were both 8" deep. I was fairly certain that the iron and tin can shards were iron range targets but there is so much black sand at this location that every target has a little iron response especially in the scoop. Kept thinking I was going to break the ORX in this rugged terrain. No problem. Can't wait to get back up to this location that is NOT known for any gold over 1/2 gram. Jeff
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