Jeff McClendon

#8 1 grain lead shot air tested on my 14" DD coil at 1" in Cancel/Normal. #9 .75 grain lead shot was touching the left edge of the 14" DD in Cancel/Normal. #8 1 grain lead shot air tested on my 11" mono coil at 1.5" in Normal. #9 .75 grain lead shot air tested on my 11" mono coil at .5" in Normal. Sensitivity was on 5 due to EMI. Results might be better on 10 or in Auto Plus (12) I don't have any #8 or #9 steel shot to test. Green, I also don't want to keep hijacking this VLF thread with PI GPX 6000 test results. Start a new thread if you want.

Definitely not TNSS.....David. I believe Paystreak Superfreak's name is Jeremy.......

Paystreak Superfreak......... Interesting guy. He was using Mono program/single frequency, PWM full tones in this video. Why he previously missed the targets he went gooh gooh gah gah over with his Deus 1 and Simplex, I don't know. Had he been in General or any other Deus 2 FMF mode besides Mono and hit those targets and then tried it in Mono and missed them...........that would have been interesting. I really do watch the videos I post on this forum very carefully before I post them. This one and quite frankly all of Paystreak's videos that I have watched, don't show me much. Lots of talking, super fast swinging and jitterbugging, otherwise.......God bless him. If making Youtube videos helps him in his life, keep doing it.

That is a great question. Maybe a Simplex, Kruzer or Anfibio owner can answer it for you Right now no one has a Legend in the US, even the field testers.

I like all of the above plus target response inversion feature so that no matter what coil type is used and what setting...Mono, DD or Cancel it will be easy to make the low high/high low responses consistent and the inversion point predicatble. I personally have really been working with the GPX 6000 on this issue and it is driving me crazy..........

Dream on......................

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DD coils will also average two adjacent targets. Put a nail on top of or next to a US dime. In your scenario the Equinox will average the iron nail and non ferrous target when the center spine of the DD coil is parallel to the nail's orientation. With iron rejected the Equinox will more than likely null when the center spine of the DD coil is perpendicular to the nail's orientation. Depending on the detector's iron filtering quality, using a concentric coil in your scenario the targets will give a good response and be averaged (if you have a display), partially broken up but averaged or nulled. This is why most experienced relic hunters or hunters that detect in thick iron usually have all or most of the iron range target IDs accepted whether they are using a DD or concentric coil and why suspected borderline iron targets are approached from more than one direction when swinging a coil over them especially when using a DD coil.

Lead #8 and #9 birdshot is easily detected with the GPX 6000. I don’t own a 7000 so can’t speak about that. I also have no experience with modern #8 steel birdshot. My GPX 6000 will detect #8 lead birdshot with its DD coil too. So, .1 gram to .05 gram gold is no problem for the GPX 6000 or the Equinox 800 using its gold modes if it is within 2” to 3” of the surface.

You could read the manual or just take my word for it. European coke seems to be detected by the Equinox using its multi frequency setting in the 0 to +2 target ID range.

A couple of Deus 2/Multi Kruzer comparison videos in English on Swiss hillside pasture. Very fair comparisons by an experienced Multi Kruzer user. Both videos are fairly long but are live relic/coin digs with tones and target ID numbers.

So, I tend to take things literally and not to speculate too much or theorize. I took Loren's original question literally. The Equinox using Multi IQ definitely needs extra iron filtering due to the way Multi IQ processes the ferrous and non-ferrous signals. The Equinox does not have any extra iron filtering adjustments other than its discrimination filter when running it in a selectable single frequency. Whether it should have extra iron filtering adjustments that are accessible when using a selectable single frequency....don't know since I rarely use it in selectable single frequency. The only detector tester I know that has used and reported on the Legend is Iffy Signals. He has recommended that the Legend needs user adjustable iron filtering beyond what is available through the Legends discrimination filter. Nokta has said that Ferro-Check is also a large/shallow target iron discrimination filter and is their extra layer of iron filtering for checking shallow iron, steel and targets with mixed ferrous and non-ferrous content. So, I took the term Iron Bias literally as Minelab's feature that is on the Equinox to help identify iron targets when using Multi IQ. Do I think the form of iron filtering called Iron Bias by Minelab would help on the Legend?.....no clue, since I don't know how the Legend is processing the ferrous and non ferrous signals. If Loren's question had been "Does a SMF detector need user adjustable iron filter settings" my answer would have been different. I like having choices too for iron filtering and having more control over that feature is always good in my opinion.

That’s the adapter. The WS6 with the back phones work really well and are really nice in hot weather since they don’t go over your ears and allow plenty of air flow. For me though, they are uncomfortable. I have a really big head however. Even most off the shelf sunglasses are uncomfortable and so are many headband headphones.

I don't have a final opinion about the Legend yet since I have never used one. Do I believe like some people that it is a cloned/copied Equinox. No. Just like I don't believe XPs multi frequency technology is cloned/copied Equinox technology even though there are many similarities between the Deus 2 and the Equinox. Nokta Makro have been making very good iron discrimination technology in their detectors for quite sometime. They also appear (from Iffy Signal's first 2 videos of the Legend) to have created much more advanced SMF technology than I thought they could based on how the Legend identified accurately the deep low and high conductor non-ferrous targets in his mineralized test garden. Deus 2 has outstanding SMF tech also based on your testing and that of some of the European testers that have directly compared the Deus 2 to Deus 1/ORX and the Equinox. I don't see where blasting Nokta Makro or Dilek is going to help anybody at this point. After the Legend is released and we know how it really functions........go for it if you don't like the Legend.

Twist off bottle caps are mostly aluminum and normally are detected in the zinc/copper US penny, clad US dime range depending on size. Steel crown bottle caps can respond with all sorts of numbers in the teens and 20s on the Equinox depending on condition whether Equinox iron bias is set to zero or something higher. Why does anyone assume that the Legend needs an iron bias feature like the Equinox has? Coming to that conclusion would mean that the Legend somehow is cloned/copied Equinox Multi IQ technology. Ferro-check as used on the Legend will require a little practice to master. There are specific instructions for how it should be used and interpreted. Just indiscriminately waving the coil over a target may or may not result in an accurate Ferro-check response depending on size or depth. The instructions in the current Legend manual are very clear about how to use it. The Legend also has four different levels of easy to use, one button push iron/ground response discrimination settings which are not notches. It does have a separate user friendly notch feature. The Equinox iron bias feature also works best for large or shallower targets. There is nowhere in the Equinox manual where it says that an iron bias setting of zero is actually iron bias OFF. My understanding is that some level of iron bias is always ON by default using Multi IQ with Fe=0 or F2=0. Iron bias is definitely off and cannot be accessed as a functioning setting using select single frequencies on the Equinox.