Jeff McClendon

Hi, sorry you are having problems charging your Nox 800. Are you plugging it into a AC wall socket charger or are you using a slower USB port on a computer? One or all of the batteries could have completely discharged and could need to be slowly charged. Worth a try. Good luck. Jeff

Hi, thanks for trying to clarify the ground balance procedure when using the Goldfield program. I don't have an X35 coil yet and am still running version 4 software with my HF coil. Version 5.2 may use a different ground balance type than what I have. I based my statement on one of XPs videos with Gary B. about the Goldfield program on the Deus using the HF coils. Jeff

I would go with anything that makes me think it will be truly MODERN. Just don't do what XP did and call it God (Deus) or ORX (makes me think of the Orcs in Lord of the Rings)! Jeff (means touched and freed by God = Geoffrey! hasn't worked for me.....)

Geez, now I'm gettin' shot at!!!!! Jeff

Hi, wow my face is really sore from getting slapped!!!!!!! I didn't realize we had left the topic. So, just to make sure..... I'm thinking $750 for the ORX with wireless headphones is a fair price. It is still a whole lot of detector for those of us that are really familiar with XPs. $600 for the wired headphone version sounds about right. That removable back headphone module acts like another wireless receiver for the wired headphones of your choice. The multiple frequencies are really nice too when compared to other detectors with similar frequencies. The true, threshold based all metal is also a real plus with both the Deus and the ORX. The Mi6 handheld pinpointer interface is pretty neat too...... Chuck, I can't find a designated depth meter either. None of my Minelab PIs and the Whites TDIs have had a depth meter and neither does the Gold Monster 1000 so that must not be a big deal for most prospectors. For coin and jewelry I would feel a lot less comfortable without one in public parks. You can use pinpoint mode on the ORX to get a pretty good idea of depth (the pinpoint square fills in more and more the shallower the target) along with the audio response. The Deus has a very rudimentary depth meter on the Horseshoe ferrous/non-ferrous graph. Jeff

Hi parkgt, The XP Deus that I own, has a notch type ground balance system in Goldfield which I don't particularly care for. It is conceivable (though not likely) that it could automatically notch out gold targets if the surrounding ground/hot rocks had a similar conductive ID. I might consider looking closely at the ORX if it ground balances differently. The European sites that I visit are generally positive in their opinions of the ORX. They like the simplicity of the programming and setup, the inclusion of the remote control box in the package, and don't seem to mind the absence of the hockey puck controller at all. They like the coil selections and the headphone volume adjust feature. They are a bit skeptical about the changes to the shaft system, especially its even lighter weight and more plastic build quality. If I did not already own a Deus and I was looking specifically for an extremely lightweight, ergonomically comfortable, wireless, rechargeable detector with gold prospecting/true all metal mode capabilities, and many other great features that could be practically waterproofed with the addition of an inexpensive accessory kit, I would definitely look at the ORX full package. I think it gives someone desiring those characteristics a very viable alternative to the similarly priced Deus Lite setup. I like the less cluttered control box screen and the bigger ID numbers. It is also almost half the price of the full Deus setup. For those that don't fit the average male, age 16 to 65, fairly fit demographic, I have not used a detector with all the features of the Deus/ORX that can match them for build quality and comfort. As far as I know, nothing comes close. Otherwise, as has been said, there are many other alternatives if one wants a great gold prospecting detector and does not have physical limitations for swinging a 3+ to 6+ pound detector for long lengths of time. As Steve has said, I have yet to see much about the ORX (or the Deus for that matter), purely as a prospecting detector (I don't read french well) and I haven't had a chance to field test my Deus with the HF and X35 coils. That will happen soon I hope. Jeff

Hi, I sent you a PM about the Teknetics Mars Sniper Coil back in late December. Is it still available? thanks, Jeff

Hi Steve, you asked about differences in the gold modes on the Orx and Deus. I was wondering if the ground balance procedure for the Orx in its two gold modes is the same as the procedure for the Deus in Gold Field? I am still not comfortable with the peculiar ground balancing of the Deus in Gold Field. I guess I need to keep practicing. Jeff

Hi Bryan, I don't usually jump into threads that tend to heap any kind of praise on me. So this was a first. I'm just not that kind of guy. I would give most of the credit for any of my finds to the Equinox 600 that I got in May 2018. It and my 800 are truly amazing. I really appreciate your comments. We all really do have such different detecting environments, time constraints and physical constraints, which demand different styles of detecting and goals. I only wish I could find some nice pre-clad coins besides pre-1982 Memorials which are very plentiful where I hunt. The ground in the many parks I hunt in is so mineralized and saturated with a two to three inch layer of continuously falling trash that just detecting good clad targets is a real challenge. I found 5 wheats 3 rosies and one silver quarter in the past year. That's it. Even when I join large club group hunts for wild targets we rarely find silver coins besides the occasional Mercury dime or War nickel. The abundance of clad, jewelry and plenty of trash make any really deep targets hard to hear due to masking. Plus, we have to coin pop with screwdrivers and probes. No shovels allowed! I guess some folks got a little rambunctious down in Colorado Springs south of me, in 2017 and the city council banned metal detecting on all city land. Craig's List has had a steady stream of detectors for sale since then from there. I actually found more gold jewelry by weight than gold from prospecting last year. I think my total was just over 9 grams in small nuggets and flakes. The biggest nugget was .79 grams and I found it crevicing. My largest nuggets detecting were all at or less than .25 grams! Jeff

Hi Alluminati, your results and mine are pretty close. A 10" prospecting pan full of tabs and 26 grams of yellow and white gold along with a nice ruby and emerald. All found with an Equinox 600 with me working 50 to 60 hours per week until this past September when I finally retired from teaching school. Dirt fishing and prospecting are so much more fun!!!!! thanks for starting this thread. Jeff

Hi and hopefully happy holidays to all of you....... Before most of you go too far into conspiracy theory land, I did the test that I promised. First of all there is nothing in the manual concerning depth loss or gain by using different iron bias settings unless I missed something. I did not change the iron bias in default Park 1 for this test. So I luckily have both detectors. I air tested them with the stock 11" coil and the 6" coil in my backyard. First I tested both the 800 and 600 with the 11" coil in default Park 1 except for sensitivity which I had to lower on both detectors to 16 due to massive amounts of EMI today, I used the same settings as in the Youtube video in question. I used a 1982 US quarter. I recorded the farthest distance from the coil with matching beeps in both directions. The 800 in default Park 1 detected the quarter 1 inch further than the 600 in default Park 1. I changed the recovery speed of the 800 to 6 (up from 5) and the test results were exactly the same on both detectors = 8.5" I put on the 6" coil (it was a lot quieter as it should have been!) and left the sensitivity at 16 on both detectors. In default Park 1 (recovery speed 5 for the 800) the 800 detected the quarter 1 inch further than the 600 in default Park 1. I changed the recovery speed to 6 on the 800 and the results were exactly the same = 6". I think I will keep my Nox 600 for now..... Jeff

Hi, the only setting difference between default Park 1(if both detectors were in default Park 1?) is the recovery speed. On page 51 of the online manual: higher recovery speed will decrease depth. The 800 default recovery speed in Park 1 is 5. The 600 default recovery speed is 3 which equals 6 on the 800. I don't know if that is enough of a difference to cause that much depth loss. Otherwise, if both the 600 and the 800 are operating at the exact same multi frequencies in Park 1 (some people have claimed they are - I have no proof) then recovery speed is the only difference that could cause different depth ability. I have both detectors and a 6" coil. So I will try this test with a quarter soon and let you know.

I had the opportunity to use a Land Ranger Pro for awhile recently and I was quite impressed with all of the features of this detector and with the detector in general. I have used many FTP detectors and Bounty Hunters too. This detector worked fairly well in my high EMI and high mineralized soil conditions and should be a blast in more detector friendly environments. It locked on to targets well at 3" to 4" and only suffered a little from EMI. I think part of that is the 11 x 9 DD coil that came with the detector I used. I have to say that the two negatives for me were the somewhat flimsy build quality and of course the malfunctioning to non-functioning pinpoint button. I especially disliked the flimsy DD coil. On my Minuteman and Gamma the same 11"x 9" DD coil was much more robust, sturdier and had better quality coil cables and screw on connectors. I really was afraid I could easily damage the LRP's coil. Otherwise, this is a lot of detector for the money. With a working pinpoint button, coil connector modification and some better quality coils, this detector would be really fantastic.

For the most part, I really enjoyed using the TDI SL special edition with the Miner Johns coil. It was well balanced and had almost enough features to satisfy me. Where it was lacking the most was in audio nuances and basic power. I could not hear enough audio information for me to distinguish target characteristics easily. Coming from a GP3000, I loved the TDI SL's simplicity and light weight but not its limited tonal deficiencies. The biggest problem though, was its lack of power. I tried different battery scenarios including the RNB product for this model. It helped some but not enough for me to trust that the TDI SL had the raw power to detect effectively past 5" in high mineralization on medium to smallish gold targets. At least that was my experience. In milder soil conditions or in really bad serpentine with shallow targets, it would be great. In my opinion it cannot compete with the GP/GPX series as a gold prospecting PI in the vast majority of detecting environments. As a relic or beach detector it would probably really do well.

The Treasure Master I used for a while actually out performed the MX7 and Treasure Pro in my high EMI and mineralized soil environment. I had one for a loaner and everyone that use it enjoyed it a lot. It was not able to detect with any stability past 3" but it locked on to targets much better than its more expensive cousins and amazingly its auto tracking system worked fairly well. The display and audio were very nice and the stock concentric coil seemed to be the difference somehow as it matched up better with the characteristics of this detector.