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  1. Back at the end of 2013 I made a post about trying to choose between the Fisher Gold Bug Pro, Garrett AT Gold, Minelab X-Terra 705 Gold, Tesoro Lobo SuperTRAQ, and White's MXT. The real point I was trying to make was not that any were better than the others, because in my opinion in all metal prospect mode they are all so close as to hardly matter. My contention is that you should choose one based on all the other features included, such as weight, waterproof or not, tones, coil selection, etc. In my case I just wanted a light, simple detector for looking for gold in the middle of ferrous trash. I went with the Gold Bug Pro mainly because of the simplicity of the machine combined with the under 3 pound weight. Since then I kind of went down the rabbit hole. The Makro Gold Racer came along and at 56 kHz versus the Gold Bug Pro 19 kHz and about nearly the same weight it ended up replacing my Gold Bug Pro. Then I picked up a good deal on an XP Deus with 11" coil in anticipation of getting the new high frequency coil. Then the Nokta Impact came along and now the Minelab GM1000 plus there are more on the horizon. Then there is the fact I am a sucker for a deal and an impulse buyer! First Texas started aggressively blowing out some models at exceptional low prices recently, and the temptations for me have been continuous. I sort of missed that Gold Bug Pro and so when this deal on the basic Gold Bug came along at $337 I was really tempted. However, I wanted a larger coil and so I passed. Then along came this smoking discount on the Teknetics G2 for only $390 with free shipping. Or less. The deal is offered by First Texas direct on eBay and they included the "Make Offer" button. I decided to offer $375 and leave it up to fate. If they accepted the offer it was meant to be, if not I would pass. They accepted! Who knows how low they might go? I guess I should have started lower then ramped it up but $375 at half original price seemed quite fair to me. So why the Teknetics G2? Well, it is exactly the same machine as the Fisher Gold Bug Pro (DP 11" coil version) but with a different rod. It sports what is basically the same rod and handle as used on the F75, which fits my hand better than any other I have ever used. Something about the unique design of the handle that tapers to the top and angles forward. And I like the gray color after all the gold and black machines I have used. The main thing is the Gold Bug DP and G2 both come with the 7" x 11" DD coil as stock, giving me that larger coil. I might have preferred the 5" x 10" coil but First Texas only sells that as a stock coil on the Fisher F19 so this was as close as I could get at a great price. (Click on all images in this post for larger versions) Long story short though is to this day I consider the Fisher Gold Bug Pro to be the best starting unit for anyone wanting a VLF for gold prospecting in the U.S. It is nearly as hot as a Gold Bug 2 on small gold but with better depth on large gold, and easier to operate, lighter weight, lower price - just can't go wrong starting out with all that. It is also very popular, and that being the case it is a benchmark detector against which other machines can be measured. With all the new units I have or will have soon I decided I needed the Teknetics G2 mostly to use as a baseline for comparison tests I am doing this year. At the price I got it at if I decide to ditch it later I will not get hurt much, and who knows, I just might keep it. Especially with the second coil I picked up to go with it. The Nokta Impact I have came with two coils, a 7" x 11" DD coil almost identical to the one on the G2, plus a great little 4" x 7.75" (10.5cm x 19.5cm) DD coil. The closest I could get to that with the G2 for comparative purposes is the slightly smaller NEL Snake 3.75" x 6.75" (9.7cm x 17cm) DD coil. Both are epoxy filled and just 0.7" (1.8cm) thick with coil cover. The G2 is a bit nose heavy with that 11" coil but light as a feather with the little elliptical mounted. Anyway, that's my story and I am sticking to it. The G2 will be used in the field alongside the Gold Racer, Deus V4, Impact, Gold Bug 2, Gold Monster 1000, and whatever else comes along over the next year as the baseline test unit. What I often do is overload myself with new models and then let nature run its course. As time goes by I will grab certain ones I like for various uses, and others will tend to sit in the corner. It may not be efficient but it does work for me in deciding what I like to use. And that is the final thought I want to leave you with when it comes to VLF however is this. It is not all about just sheer performance, as these machines are all so hair splitting close these days. That is why each model has thousands of fans on the internet - they all work well. Like a good pair of boots you just have to find the ones that fit you best. At the end of the day the only way that has ever worked out for me is to try them out myself. I will let you all know what I think over the course of the year.
  2. Ok so I’m going to once again be asking opinions of the pros (you all). In my last post I asked what would be a better detector between the Teknetics T2+ and G2+, and it seems the G2+ would work better for gold which is what I’m going to be in the hunt for. But along the way I was introduced to the idea of saving up a little more and buying the equinox 800. What would you do? Option 1, Order the G2+ now and use it for a while in hope of finding a few good nuggets and then buying the Nox. Option 2, keep using my pawn shop kids detector and save up another 2-3 months to buy the Nox. Option 3, buy the Nox now on credit and have my wife hang me...?
  3. I’m going to tell you what little I know from a friend from a friend of his that is saying very little as in next to nothing. It started out this guy wanted to get into coin hunting. He looks around and find himself a used Teknetics. Now remember all this is new to him. He’s out there just swinging his new used detector and he gets a signal. Well like all good American boy he starts digging. He gets a hole dug about a foot down and hits a brick. Then he makes the hole bigger and low and behold there is another brick next to the first one. The thing is the two bricks are not next to each other but has a space in between. He’s thinking I didn’t detect the bricks and he didn’t because here is this tin laying in between the two bricks. I haven’t got the straight of the type of tin but maybe that will come later. Here he is with this so called tin in his hands trying to pry it open. Now hold on because this is the things that can dirty your pants. Okay now he’s got it open. He pops it out into his hand and there lays a Double Eagle better known as a twenty dollar gold coin. Of all things it’s a walking Liberty with a flying Eagle on the backside . Oh yes I did leave the date out didn’t I. This old girl is carrying a date of 1907. If you look in a coin book none of them come cheap. He told the guy I know that he knows that it’s worth no less than 6000. My friend wanted his to send a picture on the phone but the guy said no and he wouldn’t say where he found it. Because it’s a rare coin he just wanted to keep it under wraps at this time. If can at a later date I’ll give you the rest of the story. Chuck
  4. Got hold of a T2+ and at first before I received it I was scared FTP may of did something to reroute a Good thing...So I waited and wondered ...The ever evolving series of T2's throughout its life span had me in limbo not Knowing which way it would go... The original T2 I got in 2007 I believe it was upon release..And I instantly fell in love with it.Buttons were everywhere waiting on me!!..and Loved it,,all but the NOISE of EMI...but still I ran it because I KNEW what it could/would do. The The Camo LTD with bp mode and Cache Mode...a Godsend...What PUNCH or ability to airgap!!! yet MORE noise...LOL...But I KNEW what it could do... Then we got the V2 (DST) model...Quiet as a mouse where did the EMI go????Yet to me it was not SPARKY any more and seemed to have a LAG feel and the extreme depth targets would sort of just clip out instead of go to a fuzzy sound like on a non DST version.. Then we got the T2 Classic..WOW!!!!! EMI non existent and speedy,zippy,sparky!! LOVED it..Still had a bit of SLIGHT deep target signal clipping but not bad.YET no BP mode for my air-gap pinestraw prone hunts... Now we have the T2+ Ill make no qualms about it...The T2 to ME has always been a hall of famer status detector and I'm sure others know/feel this as well..Plus I just mesh with it so easily and love to use them on any iron ridden and or mixed use sites...the ID is superb and Its lite and it just plain digs Relics and loves brass..The Disc is Par excellence on the T2 as a +..One of the few VLF I can pick large brass in large iron easily and add small coil and damage some iron and or trashy mixed use sites with ease...I like to set DIsc ((on a say 100 year continuously occupied site most walk away from including me from all the assortment of trash)) up to 80 and just grab all the silver and large brass etc eerily easy. Go to a nail ridden civil war house full of iron debris and set disc on zero 2+ tones and Sift iron with small coil... Work open fields with large coils and threshold all metal and dig DEEEEEEEP.. This is what i like about a T2 a very multi use machine and steady LOCKING I.D's when you need it.. So the T2+??...Well,, and I don't say this Lightly...to me it may be the best T2 built To date...As always K.I.S.S. easy interface..same housing and rods etc..although I notice they have went back to the way the pistol grip attaches to the rod like the first ones did..and I like that..there for awhile they used the brass insert and screw to hold the handles on and they had a slight wobble the first ones with bolt and nut did not have...well the T2+ has the old school set up,, really tight no wiggle!When you turn it on its like any other T2..disc mode 60 sens and 1 tone..Change settings turn it off turn it back on and your back to the 60 sens and 1 tone..I LIKE THAT..hard reset everytime..and makes me check my settings on every hunt..Has all the T2 standard tone modes..1,1+,2+,3,3b,4,Dp and now the added BP and like on the LTD BP its two + tone only...same screen new T2+ Written across top of screen graphics..and detector is T2 classic green ( my favorite color LOL!!) Here's where things get interesting and my worrying was in vane...This T2+ is as fast as any T2 Ive used in past 11 years..and EMI free to boot...there is some sizzle spark on 99 Sens but that's the Gain not outside interference...It lightning quick!!and recovery shut down and separation is enhanced it so seems by the speed...So its fast and yes its still Deeep... Clad dime indoors Biaxial coil, 2+ tone, factory ground balance of 90 zero disc is air testing 12.75 inches..and non to jsut slight slight clipping its a modulated whisper like old days pre DST...Turn Bp on same dime is now 15 inches.So the AIR depth is as hot as any T2 I've ever ran..and the speed is as good or MAYBE? slightly faster Even Bp mode which is inherently slower seems to be quick still not as laggy as a V2 DST T2 in standard tone..And maybe a tad bit faster than non DST BP mode..I know there seems to havea tightness feel to the tone now in precise way. It almost feels like the T2+ has a faster processor or??? inside the unit...Tones are crisp and tight and the separation is quick..And that may be away they overcome some of the DST lag..just speed up the clock?? I never used Cl mode on other T2s so I don't miss it on this one and if you don't need iron volume settings and Variable tone pitch the V2 offers but want performance then think basic old school T2 with Bp only thats where youll be....and the Bp mode on this one carries over to the all metal mode as it should! I would say its everybit the T2 C. in production now yet seems more reactive and there is a slight cleanness to the tone over the C.Its just as quiet as a T2C.but with the added Bp mode for better below 3 to 4 bar dirt and or air-gap issues from sites its a welcome addition... This is workhorse unit for sure and can do very well about anywhere inland..Hate to sound to excited about the T2+ but to me its the evolved unit I've wished for...I need no notching or backlights or the likes ..Does well on my 9 inch dime in 4 bar dirt like any PROPER T2 and clips a high tone on the 10 inch dime 4 bar dirt like any PROPER T2.. I wont say its any deeper than past T2's of any model in the soil...but its as fast or faster than some models... Lets call it a PROPER clean running noise free T2..What more could you want if you need a machine that can really SITE SIFT modern/old or combo of both..There's SOME better iron sifters and there's deeper machines in certain soils But the T2+ has some excellent clean disc and quickness that overcomes its start stop audio gate to a point that it makes it hard to hunt a site then come back and not have to work hard on the site with the Iron sifters to manage more goodies. One other thing on my buried dimes the 3 tone actually has a cleaner more dig me hit ..the ten inch dime is at least 75% of the sweeps telling me to go for it..On other T2's the 3 tone never was this two tone was .. OK I like this T2+!!!LOL!!!But I always have... Keith
  5. Some random notes, and if you don't know what I am talking about as regards some detail of this machine or that I apologize. Well, I finally updated my XP Deus with 11" coil to the version 4 update. Then I hauled it and the Nokta Impact with 11" and Teknetics G2 with 11" out for several hours of cross checking coin type targets. The G2 is a Gold Bug Pro variant running at 19 kHz and I put it up against the Deus at 18 kHz and Impact at 20 kHz. I acquired the G2 new recently to use specifically as a benchmark unit because I am very familiar with it and because in my opinion it does 19 kHz as well as it can be done. I spent hours swapping machines as the hunt machine, then cross checking the undug targets with the other two. Lots of settings tried, with the main goal to try and find some deep fringe type target or target in trash where any machine can get a clear and definable edge. Well good luck with that. All I mainly did was impress myself again with what a little powerhouse the Gold Bug Pro/G2 is for the price. It is fairly mineralized ground but not the worst, 5 bars out of 7 on the G2 Fe3O4 meter, ground balance about 86. The only real "aha" moment was in learning the Impact really likes to upscale shallow small foil when in 5 kHz mode, but shoves the id back down to where it should be at 14 kHz or 20 kHz. All the machines like to upscale deeper aluminum in this ground. All three seemed to get tricked in much the same way on certain targets, like a deep pull tab reading like a dime. For gold hunting purposes I do not mind machines upscaling low conductive targets, and in fact the Impact 5khz mode may have a benefit in nugget detecting because it does want to push light foil (and therefore small gold) higher. But for coin detecting upscaling aluminum is annoying. Pretty much par for the course however for mid to higher single frequency machines. I found running the Impact in VLX1 was nice as I could flip over just one click to the Gen(D) mixed mode program for a dramatically different read and better target definition. Target id numbers in my ground are slightly higher in the "expanded ferrous" modes like VLX1 and VLX2 compared to DI3 and DI4. The Deus V4 Gold Field program does seem to pack some extra punch now, be fun to get it out nugget hunting once the elliptical coil hits the streets. The new Deep mode really seems great while the new Hot mode is, shall I say it, interesting. First time I have used the X-Y screens also. The G2 is what it is, almost no controls but it gets the job done with what it has, and good solid id. Deus and Impact in the other hand have countless options and programs to try, but by and large there is no magic bullet. Three great machines, I can hunt with any of them. It will take a lot more hours to sort it all out. I find when running machines that are all hitting the VLF Wall that it is the "other things" that get my notice. The Impact is obviously the heavier of the three (4 lbs 4.7 oz / 1946 grams), although very well balanced, so I give the feel on my arm award to the G2 (3 lbs 1.5 oz / 1404 grams) and the Deus (2 lbs 4.0 oz / 1020 grams with 11" coil and control box). The G2 and Deus are neck and neck in the comfort department FOR ME* but the G2 feels ever so slightly better to me, I am guessing because the coil is lighter on the G2. The G2 slays both the Impact and Deus for speaker volume if run without headphones, but on the other hand it has no volume control so would be too loud for some situations. Been awhile since I ran a Gold Bug Pro / G2 unit and caught myself when switching from disc mode to all metal when cross checking at one point and forgetting that the "big number" changes from target id in disc mode to ground phase in all metal mode, so I was looking at the ground phase instead of the little speedometer thinking it was target id for a couple goes. That one quirk always had me liking the F75 versus the Bug in all metal. I wish Fisher made a 19 kHz F75! *On arm comfort is a very subjective subject. In particular it has a great deal to do with the size of a persons hands plus length and thickness of their forearm, and their height. You really can't take any one persons word on this subject as it is like buying hiking boots. What fits one person does not fit another. It is not all about detector weight by a long shot. Balance is very important as is the all important hand grip. I am 5' 11" with forearms on the thinner side and smallish hands. For instance, my forearm really bounces around in the large Impact armrest area. The Deus armrest which may be too small for some fits me better. For me personally, the 3.5 lb Teknetics T2 / Fisher F75 is the most comfortable detector I have ever used. It is superbly balanced and something about the hand grip that narrows to the top as it cants forward really makes my hand happy. I can squeeze the armrest shut to fit my arm. So if you find the F75 to be a great fit for you, my comments apply to you. If you hate the T2/F75 setup then what I have to say is less important.
  6. The AT Max is Garrett’s latest machine following the AT Pro and AT Gold. The Teknetics G2+ is one of the First Texas 19 kHz variants (Gold Bug Pro, F19, G2, G2+)
  7. No information yet but this was just posted on the Teknetics Facebook page. The Teknetics T2+ is on the way. The Teknetics T2 is the company's flagship model and so I would surmise this is an updated model with some sort of additional feature? If it was a truly new detector I would expect a new model name.
  8. Will someone be kind enough to direct me to any reviews Steve has done on the Teknetics T2 SE/LTD. I made an inquiry here in Oz about it and apparently it can detect 'targets' deeper than any other detectors. My question is; will it find gold?! Thanks everyone for great comments and writing.
  9. Thought I'd throw this out there. I just heard about special fall pricing on the F19 and G2+ units. I followed up with a dealer about a G2+ model and got the response below. Bottom line is the pricing is too good to pass up and I bought a G2+LTD green camo unit. Your favorite dealer should be able to put a big smile on your face as the $449 is MAP pricing. I got mine from Craig at Show Me Treasure. He made me Happy Happy Happy. Anyway....this is too good not to share. You basically get a GoldBug Pro with enhanced Disc features. It is impossible to go wrong with this deal. HH Mike LIMITED TIME FALL SPECIAL! We are offering special pricing that will start Oct. 1 and run through Nov. 30. The special prices apply to our G2+ family of detectors. These offers are only for 2 months so don’t wait! We are accepting orders now. G2+ SPECIAL You can now buy all three flavors of the G2+ for the same low price! Take advantage of this amazing price before the offer expires! We have limited quantity on some camo units, first come, first served. MAP G2+ $449 G2+19LTD $449 G2+19LTD-P $449
  10. I am curious how much more depth I will get on coins with a T2 Classic vs. Gold Bug non manual gb on coins . I love my Gold Bug but I am only getting 4-4 1/2 inches reliable depth. The Bug works fine on sports fields where I use low power settings but I also like hunting curb strips, empty lots (with permission) old home sites and such. Mostly coins at these places. I am trying not to get caught up in the grass is greener new detector will fix all train of thought. I thought I needed a Tesoro clean sweep coil for hunting sports fields but my Bug works just fine. Would a T2 truly get better depth on coins then my current Bug? This of course is all things being equal.
  11. There are two recent, active threads elsewhere on this site discussing detector frequency. I've started a new topic here because this is specific -- frequency for coin hunting. It probably has an impact on both relic and jewelry detecting as well, but only peripherally (I think) with native gold. To frame up my concern, I first should disclaim that, as with most detecting, there is no simple answer that treats all conditions. Ground mineralization, electro-magnetic interference (EMI) background, and goal target size, shape, composition and expected depth can all be variables (and usually are) in finding the optimal solution. For my situation the local mineralization is typically mild to at worst moderate. Living in a city, EMI background is certainly a concern although I haven't noticed severe cases and often it's unnoticeable. Target size, shape, composition (coins), and depths of a few inches to deep, since I want old coins, are my parameters. Now that I've laid the groundwork, I'll narrow the choices -- high single digit frequencies (6-10 kHz) vs. midrange frequencies (13-15 kHz). The former has the advantage of less susceptibility to mineralization (probably not an issue in my ground) but higher response to EMI. Lower frequencies favor high conductors (copper and silver and most of their alloys) compared to higher frequencies which cater to the lower conductivity metals, especially gold, lead, and nickel and most of their alloys. Higher frequency also gives better response to small items (e.g. small jewelry and the smallest coins). Iron is the enemy of just about every type of modern metal detecting. It's plentiful, easily corroded, and most items made of it are nearly worthless, unless you're talking very large stuff (cars, trains, bridges,...). Iron (I think) is more of an issue with higher frequencies, just like mineralization which is usually some kind of iron oxide, but lower frequencies see iron quite well, too. On top of that there is a hidden disadvantage at lower frequencies -- wraparound. My experience combined with quite of bit of reading has come up with an explanation for this unexpected weakness. The conductivity (ID-) scale is non-uniform at low and high frequencies. High frequencies expand the low conductivity range (especially iron) and compress the high conductivity range. Low frequencies do just the opposite. On the surface this sounds like another advantage for low frequencies. But the devil in the detail is that the compressed iron range causes more spillover, in this case wraparound to the highest frequencies where the high conductors live! I found this out the hard way using a 3 kHz coil on my Minelab X-Terra 705. The wraparound can be so severe that iron IDs as large silver alloy coins (such as US silver dollars and even in some cases half dollars) and smaller (e.g. rounds and bars of) pure silver. Yes, this isn't a steady ID but rather jumpy between iron and silver, but when you are in trashy ground (just about any site that has seen building construction or simply fences) you'd like to discriminate out the iron range. With discrimination on and you just hear high conductor and can get fooled, at a minimum having to go back into all-metal mode to see if there is a significant iron signal. This can be tedious and time consuming. Back to the two chosen frequency ranges: most modern detectors in the 6-10 kHz range are less expensive (<$400) devices, with an accompanying paucity of features and possibly other cut corners. Most of the 13-15 kHz detectors ("all around detectors") are of better quality, have more features, typically go deeper, and come at costs in the mid-range -- $400 - $1000. For me the cost isn't too much of an issue, at least between these two. (Minelab CTX 3030 is a different story.) For specific examples, the Teknetics Omega 8500 is low frequency (7.7 kHz) but has features no other detector currently selling under $400 can touch. At least that's my observation. For a limited time you can find it for $379 new -- it's usually about $650. Compare it to the new Teknetics Patriot (rebranded Fisher F70) at a current featured price of $400 new. By all accounts it's nearly equivalent to the First Texas 'black' flagships -- F75 Limited and T2 Special Edition. The Patriot/F70 is a true jack-of-all trades (i.e. coin, jewelry, relic, and even gold nugget) detector. But concerning old coin hunting, is it a match for the lower frequency advantages(?) that the 8500 has? Yes, finally a question.
  12. Both the F75 and T2 have suped up 'black' versions which have processes called 'boost' and 'cache' that their basic versions don't have. Sometimes they used 'limited' and 'special edition' to distinguish these, but I don't think those always go hand-in-hand. Nominally the basic F75 has a gold colored upper shaft while the T2's equivalent is green. But has that always been the case? I.e. if a unit has a black shaft (and of course if someone hasn't simply swapped it in for a colored one), does that unit have boost+cache processes? The reason I ask is for potentially buying a used one (e.g. on Ebay). A lot of times it's easier to just figure out from a picture what a seller has than trying to get an answer out of him/her. Often the seller doesn't know what s/he has. I've seen on more than one occasion where a question tipped off a seller that s/he had a more valuable unit than thought, with the result being the item being pulled and later mysteriously relisted with a higher asking (or starting in the case of auction) price. I realize I could e-mail First Texas, but on the one hand they don't make a dime if I buy used, and the one time I wrote them with a question (about if a detector could be damaged getting close to a strong magnetic field) it took several days for a person (turned out to be a sales person) to answer, and even that was terse and, IMO, not sufficiently detailed. Besides, often readers & posters here know as much or more on technical issues than 95% of the people who work at these companies!
  13. Teknetics has officially released the new Patriot model, and it looks all but certain this is a rebranded Fisher F70-11DD. Here are the controls/displays side by side: Teknetics Patriot and Fisher F70 controls and display compared Teknetics Patriot Specifications Standard Coil - 11-inch Open Frame Bi-Axial™ Waterproof Coil - Yes Batteries - 4x AA (not included) Battery Indicator - Yes Battery Life - 20-25 hrs. Pinpoint Mode - Yes Target ID - Yes Audio - 8 audio tone options Volume Control - Yes Discrimination Adjustment - Yes Sensitivity - Adjustable Operating Frequency - 13 kHz Depth Indicator - Yes, 4-segment Weight - 2.9lbs (1.3 kg) Length - Length 43.5” to 52.5” (110 cm to 133 cm) Headphone Jack - Yes Ground Balance - Yes Backlight - No Same screen, right down to the Fisher "wings"! The thing is the F70-11DD currently goes for $679 and the Patriot is currently on sale for only $399 with free shipping. Rumor has it the F70 itself is being discontinued. The F70 is a very powerful and underrated detector, overlooked by many because of the top-of-the-line Fisher F75. Dave Johnson is the metal detector engineer guru behind many of the great metal detectors we use. He frequents some forums under the name of woof! and here is what he has to say in a post on TreasureNet: "The F70 was the product of a mission-- to come up with a less expensive adaptation of the F75, while incorporating things we had learned meanwhile. Without "dumbing it down". Because the F70 was advertised for a lot less money than the F75, marketing dept. didn't quite dare to say how good the damn thing really was. Some of the secret sauce we put into the F70 eventually made its way into later revisions of the F75 group of machines, as well as into the Teknetics "Fratbros" series and most other new beeps introduced after the F70. As the top of the Fisher lineup, the F75 including its revisions got all the attention. That's how the F70 became a "sleeper". Guys like Mudpuppy will never have to wonder if they should have gotten an F75 instead. This is the same sort of explanation I just posted in "another forum" about the approx. $200 category. If you get a Eurotek Pro, you never have to wonder if you should have gotten something else. Get anything else, and you'll wonder if you should have gotten a Eurotek Pro instead. F70 owners never have to wonder if they should "upgrade" to an F75. --Dave J." The bottom line is the new Teknetics Patriot looks to be a lot of detector for only $399 and well worth a hard look by those wanting great all around performance at an incredibly low price. While not quite as hot on small gold as a Fisher Gold Bug Pro or Teknetics G2 at 19 kHz the Patriot at 13 kHz I have no doubt can perform reasonably well at nugget detecting in addition to coin, relic, and jewelry detecting. My 13 kHz F75 put a lot of gold in my pocket. Teknetics Patriot metal detector
  14. Today Teknetics is rolling out a small scale test program for direct sales of Teknetics detectors. It's very much a "test the waters" rollout. They have appointed five "Exclusive Reps" to offer the program to customers. I am one of the Reps. The program for now covers only the Omega8000 and the G2 (not the +) Here's how it works. The buyer places the order direct with Teknetics in El Paso, tells them who the referring Rep is (the pricing is only available with reference to one of the 5 Reps) and the detector is shipped by Tek direct to the customer. To order, contact Teknetics - Rubi Martinez (915) 633-8354 with my name (Rick Kempf) as reference - Mon - Fri 8:00 am - 5:00 pm MST. There are three different Om8000 packages and one G2 The pricing is extremely low. Omega8000 with 10" concentric oval - $375 11" dd - $400 1" conc. and 11" dd - $475 10" conc., 11' dd and 5" dd - $540 G2 with 11" dd $460 I am compensated by FT for orders placed naming me as the Rep.
  15. Teknetics recently announced a new model line, the Ameriteks, discussed on an earlier thread. The three new models are rebranded versions of other First Texas (parent company of Bounty Hunter, Fisher, and Teknetics) models at lower prices. There are the Minuteman, Liberator, and Patriot. The Patriot in particular got my attention as a rebranded Fisher F70 with 7" x 11" DD coil for only $399 and free shipping (with promo code). Teknetics has added these new models to their website and also appear to have gone to selling detectors direct from their website. The method is interesting. Right now you can get a discount and free shipping by using a promo code tied to certain dealers and representatives, who then presumably get a "referral fee" for the sale. As somebody who used to be in marketing and sales it is not a bad idea for Teknetics as they probably do not get much representation at a lot of dealers anyway. Since so many dealers these days are nothing more than drop shippers I have expected somebody to go factory direct eventually, and this is a step in that direction. There is a nice ability to pick and compare models on the website now also. Click for larger version.
  16. First Texas owns Bounty Hunter, Fisher, and Teknetics. You see a lot of models drift from one line to the other. Teknetics is releasing three "new" models at low prices. Capitalizing on the current "made in America" trend, they are calling these the AmeriTEKs. Three models, the Minuteman at $249, Liberator at $349, and Patriot at $449. Internet prices will probably be 15% lower. New Teknetics Ameritek metal detector models I am guessing the Minuteman is a repackaged EuroTEK Pro and the Liberator a repackaged Land Ranger Pro but do keep in mind I am just making educated guesses. The one that more got my interest is the Teknetics Patriot model at $449. Teknetics Patriot 13 kHz Frequency Shift All Metals Auto-Tune Mode 0-99 Target-ID Target-ID Confidence Bar Ground Balance to Salt Push-button Static Pinpoint Speed Selection Non-Volatile Memory (Saved Settings) This appears to me to be a repackaged and much lower price Fisher F70 Check out the F70 specs at the link and here are both screens side-by-side: Fisher F70 and Teknetics Patriot screens compared Same screen, right down to the Fisher "wings"! The thing is the F70 currently goes for $649 and the Patriot will be heading out the door at under $400 - $381 if I got my discount right but they may set a MAP of $399 playing the price point game. $250 less than the F70 at the moment. And the Patriot looks to be sporting the more expensive 11" x 7" DD coil instead of the 10" elliptical concentric that comes stock on the F70. The F70 is a very powerful and underrated detector, overlooked by many because of the top-of-the-line F75. Dave Johnson is the metal detector engineer guru behind many of the great metal detectors we use. He frequents some forums under the name of woof! and here is what he has to say in a post on TreasureNet: "The F70 was the product of a mission-- to come up with a less expensive adaptation of the F75, while incorporating things we had learned meanwhile. Without "dumbing it down". Because the F70 was advertised for a lot less money than the F75, marketing dept. didn't quite dare to say how good the damn thing really was. Some of the secret sauce we put into the F70 eventually made its way into later revisions of the F75 group of machines, as well as into the Teknetics "Fratbros" series and most other new beeps introduced after the F70. As the top of the Fisher lineup, the F75 including its revisions got all the attention. That's how the F70 became a "sleeper". Guys like Mudpuppy will never have to wonder if they should have gotten an F75 instead. This is the same sort of explanation I just posted in "another forum" about the approx. $200 category. If you get a Eurotek Pro, you never have to wonder if you should have gotten something else. Get anything else, and you'll wonder if you should have gotten a Eurotek Pro instead. F70 owners never have to wonder if they should "upgrade" to an F75. --Dave J." Now, it is possible they removed a feature or two from the Patriot in order to justify the price differential, but with recent First Texas price decreases I would not be shocked if the F70 also comes down in price due to the just announced price decrease in the F75. Makes no sense to have the F75 at $599 and F70 at $649, reversing the order of the pricing just a short time ago. Regardless, keep an eye on the Patriot and the F70 to see what develops, but at $399 a Patriot is a machine that could even tempt me for a grab and go park machine. Teknetics was purchased for the premium name and its Fisher equivalent products have usually been more expensive for what are basically the same detectors. Gold Bug Pro versus G2 for instance or F19 versus G2+. These three models however are priced aggressively below their other FT counterpart models and appear to mark a shift in the Teknetics line to a lower price level. All this shifting of higher priced First Texas products into lower price points does smell an awful lot to me like new high end product coming soon. People do tend to equate price with value and First Texas is currently abandoning the higher price point area occupied by what are typically referred to as flagship detectors. I can't believe they will just cede that market segment to the competition so I hope we see some new high end product very soon. Perhaps the rumored CZX will finally appear!
  17. Is there any usable difference with the Teknetics G2+ when used for nugget hunting?
  18. This offer expired some time back but is being opened up again through March 2016. It brings the F75 and T2 up to latest software version. Depending on the model a person currently owns the upgrades can add the following features: Boost Mode Cache Mode DST (Digital Shield Technology) FA (Fast Process) 4 levels of FE Tone Adjustable Audio Pitch LCD Serialization Warranties can also be extended for up to three years. Fisher F75 Upgrade http://www.fisherlab.com/hobby/upgrade.htm Teknetics T2 Upgrade http://www.tekneticst2.com/upgrade.htm
  19. I have been told the T2 is really just a F75 with different rod, paint and decals. Programs, performance and sensitivity supposed to be same machine and I'm referring to base models only (not special /limited edition models) The T2 is known internationally in distant gold fields as a great nugget shooter. The F75 state side for relics, coins and gold in trashy tailing piles. Are they really the same machine or perhaps "tweaked" just a bit different but kept on the down low by the folks at First Texas. Any insight into this would be appreciated.
  20. https://www.facebook.com/TekneticsMetalDetectors/videos/1068234026521953/ Nice Facebook promo video for the Classic T2 - newly re-introduced.
  21. Looks like the gloves are off. The T2 is back as the T2 Classic and ready to fight the lowlife look-a-likes with a new look and a radical new price. For real combat check out all the camo gear in amazingly inexpensive accessory kit. If this becomes the regular price perhaps Steve should update his nugget detector guide. Teknetics T2 Classic metal detector